"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

"If you can't say no, it's not a real yes."

@forensicgirl

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this!

@louisegogel7973

2 жыл бұрын

❤❤❤

"Being seen, being heard".... That's SO important for horses as well as humans. Thanks a million Warwick!

@southernforestgypsy

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the whole quote, "being seen, being heard, feeling 'felt' and getting 'got'. " All mammals do better under these conditions 🤔😁❤️

@grannyhorsetraining878

3 жыл бұрын

@@southernforestgypsy they sure do 💞🐎

@louisegogel7973

2 жыл бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤

The biggest secret about horse training was relealed here, and it was when he said he spent 8 days matching her steps, time with a horse is just so important

@AxanarGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Join up is faster but you are right the morale of the story here is you have to let the horse decide that your ok even if it takes 8 days or 8 months. The biggest rewards comes from putting in the time.

I love the growth this dude promotes. My horse is a completely different, more relaxed, happy and willing partner since I've started operating out of empathy instead of my "stuff".

@louisegogel7973

2 жыл бұрын

That is really awesome!

There needs to be more horse trainers with Warwick's mindset, so insightful.

@marh122

3 жыл бұрын

there should be something like ambassadors program or something like that so he has main contacts in each country, because i am from Slovakia, I am, as Warwick says "believer" because I am subscriber, I learn from him, discussing problems, etc. but I am in a country where not much people around horses speak English, so I cannot point them to his website, and I dont know anyone from my country who is a subscriber or part of his group so Warwick wont come to do a clinic. World would be a lot better place then :/

@sarkamarova6195

3 жыл бұрын

@@marh122 if you manage Warwick come to your country or if you are open to manage it in CZE i bring to his clinic 5 persons 1000%sure. #hugefans :)

@marh122

3 жыл бұрын

@@sarkamarova6195 hey, lets chat about this on FB or somewhere else :) my FB: /stefan.marcin22

@tinastark1173

3 жыл бұрын

Love your conversation❤️ I believe horses are very spiritually advanced! We have a lot to learn from the about being present and inclusive. Check out kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5dkj9ewaN2vf7A.html

@gh0st_xr

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a horse trainer in Australia and I study psychology as well. I actually use the psychology to find the reasons behind each horse's behaviour so that I can help them as if a therapist would. I also follow a lot of Warwick Schiller because he uses a very similar style to me and I love that he empathizes with the horse since that is my exact reason for using psychology.

I want my horse to tell me how he feels. I don't want to give him anything to cry about.

@thehorsebackheroine5950

3 жыл бұрын

What a lovely thing to say 🥰🙏

@ina7084

3 жыл бұрын

I see you've moved on from Rick Gore. Used to see you a lot in comments of his videos.. Good for you.

@alaya9860

3 жыл бұрын

thank you. me too.

@jeanfish7

3 жыл бұрын

@@ina7084 Rick gore is an idiot

@ina7084

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeanfish7 He knows what he's doing, but he's stuck in his outdated ways. Arrogant. And misogynistic. And his followers are masochistic for taking constant verbal abuse through his videos. I used to watch him and ignore his chitter chatter, but at a point I realised why should I when there’s so many much less hateful horse trainers out there that actually improve, update their knowledge and don't call you an idi*t every 5 seconds. Enough said.

I'm glad you covered this. I've been on about this for years. If a horse knows you want them to tell you how they feel and what they are thinking, they feel more confident and trusting. If you listen, they will tell you everything you need to know and then some. They can actually be quite "talkative". Listening to horses can create very deep relationships with them. They need close friends just like we do, so be that friend.

@saspinks3001

3 жыл бұрын

It is SO nice to hear a man say what you said. Kudos for your open mind and being willing to speak up!

@linaulnes8821

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Ive said this since I was a kid, all animals need to be heard. So what if a dog barks a little or a horse put their ears back if their trying to express themselfs so you can support them through it ❤️ so lovely to see more think this way, and for men to explain it so well.

@jmo53214.

3 жыл бұрын

YESSSS!! BE that friend!! Perfectly stated, sir!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

I love your dog bouncing up and down outside the fence lol 😂

Again.. your perception about human behaviors and relation to the horses is profound and so well explained. Thanks Warwick for all you do with your candor and your gift of words

I was raised not even horribly strictly, but strict enough where a very agreeable person like me just didn't feel okay causing disagreement. I got married young and it took me 4yrs before I learner to stand up for myself and say no. I guess it's just so hard to know where that line is of how agreeable in society is healthy. Especially when raising kids. And like you say, some personalities take it well, others can't handle it.

Yes, yes, yes! If you don't listen to their whispers, they will start shouting!

"two way conversation", "atunement", "they need the relationship first". I've always noticed how my horses start to work for me, and try harder when they know I'm communicating with them. Thanks for putting it all into words so "we" can understand it.

Love how he stops and acknowledges the horse in the middle of the video.

I have had virtually the same experience with my own "double-swirl" gelding who had what some would call a very strong stubborn streak when I first bought him. In truth, he had severe kissing spine and had learned to say "no" to protect himself. When someone asked him to do something that hurt his back and he refused, they would of course ask more sternly, so he learned to respond more adamantly against increasing pressure. Against all professional advice (and, arguably, common sense), I decided to simply be attentive and listen when he said "no". After years of coming to trust that I wouldn't force him to hurt himself, this horse has gone from a stick-and-spur ride to stepping into a gallop just off the sound of my voice. This gelding is the most gentle, courteous, attentive horse I've ever worked with but I believe he is so because I treat him gently, courteously, and attentively in turn. When working with other horses- particularly younger horses- I do still think about what sort of emotional expressions we should allow a horse to have (since of course there must be a limit somewhere). What I've settled on for now is that I still discourage inappropriate displays of emotion, the same I would with human children. From working with young children with disabilities, I've found it's helpful to very quickly establish firm boundaries for which emotional displays are appropriate and which aren't. For example, hitting a caretaker because you're upset quickly results in a stern talking-to where we discuss why that isn't appropriate. That doesn't mean that the child is discouraged from being upset, just that we expect those emotions to be expressed in a manner which isn't harmful to others. I take the same approach with horses; if a horse is upset or frightened I will listen to his feelings, express sympathy, and help him work through them in a constructive manner (and learn to better manage his own emotions in the future), but I draw a firm boundary at behavior like kicking, biting, etc. Ultimately it's a two-way street; the horse (or child) cannot be allowed to express his feelings in a manner which is harmful, but that also means YOU have a responsibility to listen to his attempts at constructive conversation. If a horse (or child) tries to tell you something nicely and you dismiss his feelings, he'll feel that he needs to be rude in order to get his point across. Or, for some horses and children, he gives up trying to engage you at all.

@sewingstoryprojects6178

3 жыл бұрын

This is awesome!!!! Yes, yes to all of it!

@sactopyrshep

2 жыл бұрын

It has been my experience that kicking, biting, bucking, tearing, bolting , etc. are the equivalent of screams. Really listening to a horse (or a child) and acknowledging the messages they give you from the very first moment can prevent the over-the -top responses.

I stopped riding my gelding for a year because of just this sort of thing. He would be standing in his stall, head out the door. He would see the saddle coming and turn, putting his head in the back corner of the stall. Even though we have started riding again occasionally, I will still present the tack to him, and if he reacts in any negative way, I put it away and we don't ride that day. But that hasn't happened in awhile. Funny when you started talking about mules, I thought, 'My guy must be part mule!' Then you mentioned the whorls, and guess what? He has the two whorls side by side. :) We have done a LOT of work on relationship, and it shows up in his willingness.

Warwick hit the nail on the head, Not everyone handles being told to "stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about" well. Usually I was beaten if I didn't shut up. Over the years I shut down emotionally and I can imagine horses doing the same. It took a great therapist years to get me where I am now. I'm so glad you're helping this horse do the same.

What you say about becoming more reactive after starting to trust people has actually resonated so much with my own personality disorder. It's why I avoid genuine connections because then I'm shut down and when I'm shut down I'm less reactive, but the moment I find someone trustworthy I just absolutely explode and become afraid and worried of everything. It's inspired me to keep going through the chaos instead of going back to shutting down next time, but I've also realised that I cannot do this alone and that I need to find someone understanding of it to ever have any hope of getting better. I've actually been implementing a lot of what you've said about horses into my own life. It gets worse before it gets better.

@pon1952leod

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this...I think a close family member has the same issue but has never explained it as well as you did🌿

@ina7084

3 жыл бұрын

@@pon1952leod Yes, it's an odd thing how when I'm alone I can do things, go outside with little difficulty. But when that someone appears I realise just how much afraid of everything I already had been by the constant need to tell them, run to them, do things with them and suddenly I cannot do anything I could before. Becomes extraoridnarily difficult. And my life slowly falls apart through fear of losing that person. Separation anxiety. I don't know how much of what I say is supposed to be subconscious anymore, sadly. Had years of reading up about this in hopes of progressing anywhere but down. Probably why I can explain it more clearer. I wish luck to your family member in finding themselves stable and confident enough.

@manondekkers1023

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe find a gestalt therapist that van help you.

@ina7084

3 жыл бұрын

@@manondekkers1023 I've had therapists, psychiatrists.. I don't care for them anymore. Too tired to be dealing with people that constantly push you into going where it hurts with no regard for how you feel. It's all their projection with them and no validation. I've yet to find a psychologist that uses unconditional positive regard and doesn't make my condition worse. Seems to be impossible where I live. Or maybe I just get too explosive in defending myself. I don't see the use in being pushed into my defensive state with no plan whatsoever because they don't believe the personality disorder diagnosis (which is official on paper) so they ignore it like it isn't even there and sometimes even try to convince me non provokedly how there is nothing wrong with me when I'm explaining how my day's been and how much I despise other people. It just gets thrown into there "that's normal now moving along". I don't remember ever saying I was abnormal nor that there was something wrong with me. But infuriating that is.

@ina7084

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, but then I start agreeing with them on it and don't want therapy anymore because I'm fine and I don't need it nor didn't and suddenly all that's wrong in this whole world is me and I find myself being pushed into hospitalisation, intensive therapy and medication. I despise that switch. (No, it's public heath care, they don't do it for money how everyone keeps telling me. They don't get paid by me and they're all overbooked already so anyone with that opinion can keep themselves and their conspiracy theory away from me.)

Did anyone see the dog jump up on the other side lol

@slmronan

3 жыл бұрын

Dog jumping is hysterical!

@HeyWatchMeGo

3 жыл бұрын

I was hoping W.S. would take the dog into account when he was explaining how/and why the horse was reacting the way she did. Not saying it was a big factor, but it would be interesting.

@stuffstuffstuffyay

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah hahah

@christinaharmon8778

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Too cute!

@tinastark1173

3 жыл бұрын

I sense the dog wants to be seen and heard just like the horse...just like we all what to be seen, heard, valued, loved and appreciated for who we are!!

Awesome.......”First you go with them, then they go with you, then you both go together”, Tom Dorrance

What's up with the 20 people that gave this a "thumbs down???" Someone needs to give them something to cry about...

I loved this. My horse "freezes" with the new stirrups on my new saddle. They are metal and they make a noise he doesn't care for. He did this with the same sort of stirrups on another saddle. It makes him spooky at the hitching post. He is a pretty much - great trail horse. But you've given me something to think about. Maybe another way. I usually try backing him up and then bringing him back to the hitching post. Today, he stood frozen even after I walked him to a grassy area where I was allowing him to graze. He just stood completely still. I've had him most of his life. I'd like to figure this one little thing out.

I want to be this guys horse. He really understands.

Warrick your the best horse trainer I have yet seen and Iv´´e seen all of them. You have a unique insight to the horses mind.

I love how patient and gentle you are with the horses. Thank you for sharing your gift and showing what true horsemanship is supposed to be like. Watching that mare come up almost saying please pet my nose and bumping you was very sweet.

"They just want to be heard"...Gosh, don't we all. Wouldn't that make all of our lives better. By being a better horseman you become a better person. "You're not working on the horse. You're working on yourself". Thanks so much for showing us how to be better humans for our horses.

Makes sense to me. Hoping for more videos like this, thank you for your work

Thanks Warwick ! This is such a journey for me with horses 🐴 I have begun at 64 and am loving it as I am working through my own issues as well ! Mt instructor told me about you and I am so glad . I am on my way to a different place now , thank again! Dave from Oregon

If they connect with the fact that you are trying to understand them, even in small steps, they will give you their trust and their whole heart. They really do want that next level of connection

That little bit about the swirls was amazing.

Love your comment about the swirls/whorls! I have a red mare that has so many of them all over her body and you are spot on! She needs that attunement! And once you give it to her she yawns repeatedly ( 12 was the most) and then engages with you.This all came out when her buddy died unexpectedly and she was grieving. She needed a connection and opened up to us. Thank you, Warwick, for all the knowledge and wisdom you share. It has been so valuable with our horses. Your explanations are clear and concise and delivered in a very unpretentious way. We have a new three yr old (introvert with lots of swirls who is always wanting to engage lol!) so I have been watching your videos daily. Thank you for making them all available through your video subscription! You are such a Blessing!

Großartig!! Und die Stute konnte im Video gar nicht nahe genug heranschleichen. Sie hat vielleicht vorher noch nie einen Menschen gekannt mit der Energie eines WarwickSchiller. Fühlte sich wahrgenommen und wollte noch mehr davon

One of his best videos

How fascinating I hope you share all the things that are worse before you make them better

What a beautiful horse

I'll be honest, when the vid started with the quote, I thought we were going in a completely different direction. Happy I was proven wrong. I love this mentality. There are enough problems in the horse world, especially with ppl on YT doing the shaming videos. It's refreshing to hear you as well as ppl like Nolan M Cruz ignore the shaming game and go the informative route. Shaming ppl makes them defensive. Informing them makes them better to do better. Thanks again and subbed.

I think this is another succinct way of saying not every technique works for EVERY horse! That (as we) are INDIVIDUALS! And thet need to be listened to as individuals.... THANK you Warwick Schiller for another equine nugget of wisdom...🥰🥰❣❣

Interesting presentation. I certainly heard, and probably said, that wretched threat to children. It's humbling to admit we were so arrogant with our kids! I love the comment about mules and the treatment of horses.

Once the horse notices you noticing him everything changes...so cool!!! Thank you Warwick for being so tuned into these wonderful creatures and sharing what you know❤️

@AxanarGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Try join up. It is very rewarding when you realize they see you as their leader.

@johanna7096

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxanarGaming mhmm join ups can be very inefficient with certain horses and it is not a thing that fixes a lot.

Beautiful episode. I was never much of a "horse person" until the day when an older fleabit mare silently came to the fence and watched me pick up glass in the bike lane. Turning around, she was right there - surprise! From then on I stop to greet her, to share a carrot and hang out. Her owners don't consider Scarlett to be exceptional, but they like that I do! And it's nice to learn more about that friendly lady along the fence.

I can tell my horse what to do, my mules I have to let them believe it's their idea.

When they know that you know....many, many good things become possible. You *have* to be prepared to meet them where they are, not where you want them.

I've been having issues with my anxiety about riding and dealing with horses and as I told one teacher, when I went to a new stable to try again, people are more than willing to help a frightened horse than a frightened person. I said I had more in common with the horse. That teacher understood that and things were going well until I had to work with a different trainer and their pushy hard nosed attitude pretty much undid any progress made and I left. That was 3 years ago. But i hope to try again next summer sometime at a different school and hope as I work on myself it will get better.

Beautiful body language from the horse. Warwick is definitely a ‘horse whisperer’ in the Monty Roberts style.

Kinda works like a runaway pulling in a circle. You really connected with her. She needed to be listened to. Nice job.

The world needs more people like Warwick. Thank you for showing a different and such a gentle approach to some problems. It's eyes opening.

The great thing about you Warwick, is you care enough and are patient enough to do something for half an hour, 8 days in a row to get a connection. Can you imagine the Clinton Andersons of the world ever bothering to do that when they can bully them into a sweat around the round pen instead?

@sewingstoryprojects6178

3 жыл бұрын

ugh he is the worst bully

@rainydays4673

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, everything worth doing takes time.

@cjsanders7997

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone needs more patience. Always.gets better results.

@southernforestgypsy

3 жыл бұрын

All I can say in reply to this specific comment is, "Warwick Schiller makes me proud to be an aussie." Can't say that about...um...anyone else "down under" 🤨😁🤣

@grannyhorsetraining878

3 жыл бұрын

He knows taking the time for the relationship to develop makes everything easier and safer

When helping some dogs with issues with aggression I've loved it when I've got them to start growling. This may seem odd, but often if they have been punished for growling before coming to me, and the owners don't read body language well so the dog has learnt that them using their body language doesn't work either they have sometimes learnt to fly in with teeth before communicating, because they are still worried but all of their other communication has either been ignored or punished. Once they learn that we're listening and understanding we can bring them back down that ladder of aggression (which is often fear based) and tell us what they're worried about, and if that is handled correctly in many cases we can get them to the point where they stop growling because they are no longer concerned. If we listen early enough the 'aggression' (and that is a whole conversation in itself!) goes away naturally because we are listening and building relationship and trust.

Interesting. I was told that as a child of the70's. Thanks again.❣️🍀

I reeeeeally love how you talk about how long it took. Its too easy to get frustrated thinking we must be doing something wrong! 30 minutes after 8 days! I think not hearing that, I would have said after day 4 "clearly I'm not doing something right!" And gotten frustrated. It could take 2 days or 10 days, but at least I know its not a quick simple fix :)

Wisdom!!! Acknowledge what someone is going through is the best way! Not put them down, but help them move through it as needed. “The way out is through”. “Allowing the horse to say no!!!”. You aren’t backing off what you seek to do so much as you are giving them time to consider it and decide okay, now I’m ready.

Thanks for sharing Warwick. So good.

It sure looks like she is enjoying her connection with you. It's plain as day! Really heart warming to see how she is with you. For the mare's sake, hope the owner is going to work on their connection with her. Thanks again for another great video! ❤️🌵☀️⛈️🌈☮️🐎

@hibas801

3 жыл бұрын

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Warwick, you are the best. I just love your compassion, understanding, and deep wisdom in connecting and being HELPFUL to horses...which you can apply to your relationship with yourself and with others!! That's why these videos for people like me, who don't have horses, and wonderful and soothing.

Wow! You nailed it. I have a Mustang in my life too with multiple swirls and I totally agree with the method/approach you used. They truly have a desire to be understood and know that you can be trusted before anything else. My boy acts just like your mare, including all the affection. Thanks for sharing your journey.

Good horse advice and parenting advice! awesome stuff

Pure Gold!!!

love what he is saying. great thoughts. (love the dog in background too!) :) I love that he lets the horse say no...

probably my favourite so far.

Wow, I love how you put the horse's perspective in our interaction with them. Great lesson.

So interesting. I was a part of that generation who grew up with that sentiment. And now I can see how damaging it can be. I've been following a trainer (horses) for almost a year, and although she expresses it differently, she is saying the same thing. The things she can do with horses is nothing short of amazing! Thank you for the insight.

I’ve really applied your don’t go over the thrush hold and I’ve gotten amazing results from it. I also have done the human factor with Robyn WOW!!! WOW!! I have been an accomplished horsewomen for more than half my life and what I’m learning now with the Schiller family is ROCKING MY WORLD IN AN AMAZING WAY!! Thank you and God bless!!

@southernforestgypsy

3 жыл бұрын

So happy to hear of other happy changes in people's lives the Schiller team are enabling. Everything you said, "me too". Except now despite the rooms full of trophies, buckles and ribbons...I don't feel so accomplished for those things any more. Now I have genuine communication (work in progress) happening with my big fur babies - that, those moments of connection are worth a million times more than any silly trophy. My horses seem to WANT to be with me now - THAT means the world and is like getting a big shiny trophy every single day 🥰 and God bless and keep you and yours connected April ❤️

i wish i would be treaded like that horse.

@thon25250

2 жыл бұрын

The world would be so much better if we all treated each other like this. Hope you have a great day😊

@manuelmamann5035

2 жыл бұрын

@@thon25250 you too. i am much better now. made a great process. wish you well.

Spot on Warrick. And Wayne Dyer is amazing 🤩

Keep rambling, Warwick! 😃

This guy is a genius

thank you so much for making these videos and sharing so much

Awesomeness Thank You 🙏

awesome technique(s) - people need to listen as well! GREAT video!

Thank you for all you do. I have a mustang that is very much like this one and she has come so far since I put our relationship first. She needed to be heard.

My Gilly needs to express himself. This has been great for him

Its so good to hear this from a big trainer like you, Warwick. Ive been saying this for years. My first horse was a mess because I tried to train her with the traditional "show her who's boss" mentality, and she was both mule-like and very VERY flighty at different times. She was a hell of a filly, and now we speak the same language. When she was about eight months old I began listening to her for real, and that was when our relationship bloomed. She went from a scared filly who would panic when I tried to take her on trail walks, to a horse who actively threw a fit if we didn't go for a nice long hike. Shes an awesome trail horse now, and her progression has been incredible. Ive trained my other two mares the same way, and I'll be training my little stud colt (almost 7 months old) the same way over time. With luck he'll be my endurance horse prospect, but we'll see! Good video, as usual!

This is totally my horse - highly relationship based, thoughtful, and creative, with two high swirls and one low center swirl. I can hear and feel all of his feelings, but our trainer wants to force us out of the feelings... I need to find a better place for us ASAP.

That horse just loooves him 🥰

Interesting....very insightful. BTW that is a great looking mare! Thanks

I live your youtube videos. You are so interesting to listen too. You are an excellent horse trainer, and a kind handler of your equine friends.

It is great to see a trainer that is willing to put down the time, that simply everyone should. Some horses take things in stride, others just need a little, or a lot, more time. If you want them to be happy, relaxed and sound for life, then you give them that time. Thank you for sharing this, so many people still need to learn that we are so often taking from the horses, and forget to really give back.

Wow my Blue has 2 swirls and I think I have totally misunderstood him, I love his down to earth sweet approach ! This is what the world & our horses need now! Looks like the puppy wants some love too! LOL

I thought this was going to be stupid by the title but he actually addresses one of the biggest issues that both rider & horse suffer from. Great video!

Like My dad always said take your time so that it takes less time.

I am so impressed by your thoughtful, intuitive approach to training. One size does not fit all. I wonder if some of her issues started when she was pulled from her Mustang herd? She had no choice, no say so & maybe she wants that to be acknowledged? Such a huge change for her - going from a herd of her horse family, to intense human touch & demands. She seems so sweet. I'm so glad you're helping her to adjust.

This is just like my mare! Very excited to try this tomorrow

I’ll admit I clicked on this video ready to heartily disagree, but when you sided with empathy, I was pleasantly surprised. My very sensitive 9yr QH mare is currently with a wonderful trainer who has made some great progress with her because she took the time to create that bond and go at the horse’s pace, tuned into her, rather than trying to do things the “normal” way or on a standard timeline. She’ll be coming home soon and I’m super excited to get to start riding her. 🤗

Thanks for the emotional awareness, its very needed.

I love this so much!

Thanks for your explanation. Spot on

May the horse world catch on quickly! 👍

Beautiful... Thank you 💚

Thank you for taking the time to explain.

Brilliant, so helpful

Nice looking mare. Sure appreciate your shares

Thank you for explaining. Great work. Very inspiring and touching.

Woah wonderful information thank you!

Amazing.As always .... love from Germany

I am so happy to hear what you have to say in this video! This resonates so much with me right now! Thank you.

Yes! My mare has been doing the same exact thing!! Thank you so much for this short clip, Warwick. I will practice this new insight! I have always enjoyed your videos. Someday we will meet up with you again:)

Wow. One of your very best videos, Warwick! Thank you!

Spot on again Warwick- thank you for sharing your journey - I for one am learning so much. What a lovely mare, too - and lucky that her owner is thoughtful enough to send her to you!

Thank you for these videos! You’re a great inspiration. Love from Amsterdam

Thanks!