Marginal Gains- Engaging with Horses

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Warwick introduces the concept of Marginal Gains - small things that he does every day that add up in the overall relationship and training of horses.
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  • @rodneyzurek4900
    @rodneyzurek49003 жыл бұрын

    Don’t have a horse but watch this guy every chance I get! A lot of thought and common sense that transcends the horse world!

  • @spyscy

    @spyscy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised how many of these lessons I’m able to apply to humans around me 😹😹😹

  • @mattkinsella9856

    @mattkinsella9856

    3 жыл бұрын

    Horses teach me so so much about myself and I'm a far better person in every part of my life. I also read people and situations so much better because of what they've shown me.

  • @emilyvidimos2588

    @emilyvidimos2588

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t have a horse either, welcome to the club. Lol 😂 I do enjoy watching his videos though, his concepts are very interesting, but they make so much sense.

  • @salliegallegos918

    @salliegallegos918

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have horses but I agree. For example, in being present with my horses, I try the exercise he learned in therapy to think about barely smiling and the practice it. It’s a great exercise to bring you back to the environment, others, and yourself.

  • @scottc3165
    @scottc31653 жыл бұрын

    Someone please get that horse a pair of sunglasses. LOL. Beautiful Paint...

  • @matttaimuty5397
    @matttaimuty53973 жыл бұрын

    I've been engaging similarly with horses for years. It makes a huge difference in how much they listen and trust because they feel listened to. As a farrier I can say difinitivle this has kept me much safer in my work. Horses try not to hurt those they trust and those who pay attention to what they are communicating.

  • @glassdragonmedia
    @glassdragonmedia3 жыл бұрын

    That stallion is absolutely so stinkin' cute. He seems so gentle and chill, and likes to connect. What a treat to get to see him in your videos.

  • @tinaleitenberger2448
    @tinaleitenberger24483 жыл бұрын

    This "attempted biting" looks to me like grooming. And that´s a show of affection.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, thats what I was trying to say.

  • @tracym6297

    @tracym6297

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! That's exactly what I was thinking. One of my horses does that to me. I take it as a compliment.

  • @robinrummel1359

    @robinrummel1359

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thought also. I've seen horses doing that to each other on the back mostly, sometimes on the neck. There's an obvious difference in the reaction by horse or human between being groomed or bitten.

  • @mdee860

    @mdee860

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great catch & comment Tina, Tracy & Robin! I love Warwick's thoughtful & educated training. I have nowhere even close to near his talent but am pleased to see that I instinctively did many correct things with the herd I was involved with for 11 years. I agree, the teeth scraping is affection & grooming. My OTTB came with MANY bad habits, esp. whipping his head around to bite when girthing. He never did bite me, I always intercepted the move with a tickle under his bottom lip! Everytime. It eventually almost completely stopped. Turns out he had a nerve issue near center of ribs where the girth sits. I imagine he was hurt many times before & that's why his learned behavior was to bite the groom. I moved gently & very slowly when girthing him, looking for signs of his discomfort. Sometimes it meant sliding girth back 1/8" Many in the herd did that licking & scraping on me, as well as the Arabian basically teething ( & drooling) on a gold bangle I always wore. He could have crushed it so easily. I trusted him not to do that & he never did. He would fall asleep doing that sometimes ❤🐴🐎🥰🐴❤

  • @Tommyhillier

    @Tommyhillier

    3 жыл бұрын

    Could it also be a sign that he was weaned a bit early and is almost regressing as he feels so comfortable with you/ sees you as a "matriarch" figure?

  • @heathercollins4432
    @heathercollins44323 жыл бұрын

    Warwick, I'm sorry. Don't take this personally, but I didn't hear a word you said because that horse is just so ridiculously adorable - I couldn't focus on anything else but him!!!!! ( - ;

  • @jenniferlehman2464
    @jenniferlehman24643 жыл бұрын

    1% everyday, will show a change in 100 days. Then the cycle begins again with another action of 1% everyday for something else. But that 1% everyday adds up if you're *listening* to what your horse needs at that particular time. Many Blessings to you and your family and everyone else!!! Stay Safe!! From Ontario, Canada, Jenn.

  • @comesahorseman

    @comesahorseman

    3 жыл бұрын

    Three magic words..."if you're listening." Too often, we just operate on autopilot! 😄

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully put, Jennifer. Thank you, much love.

  • @jenniferlehman2464

    @jenniferlehman2464

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@comesahorseman So true!! That is why there is so many horses going for slaughter prices when they are 2 and 3 years old. Nothing wrong with them, nothing a few groceries couldn't cure, with a good worming schedule and letting them grow up some. Trust building begins on the ground. But, if you focus on 1 problem at a time, let that be your main focus, but throw other things in to keep them interested and, as the saying goes, "Slow and Steady will always win the race!!". Meaning you have all the time in the world to have a horse that will last you for a long time. So much can be taught on the ground where you can "learn to listen". Best Regards and Stay Safe from Ontario, Canada, Jenn.

  • @jenniferlehman2464

    @jenniferlehman2464

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lindylufromoz5111 You're welcome. Stay Safe alright??? Best Wishes to you and yours as well !!!! From Ontario, Canada, Jenn. 💖💖💖

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jenniferlehman2464 - Thank you Jennifer. xx

  • @jillianbick
    @jillianbick2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t thank you enough for this video! For all of us “older” equestrians who were taught to push away a horse that nips or bites this is so needed! My mare has always been one to play with her lead rope, bite at the crossties when grooming, tacking and I did the muzzle rub and engaged with her and she yawned and stretched down her head like ten times! Big break through for us. She didn’t even mind the girth at all and it’s the first time in three years! Thank you so so so much for making these videos.

  • @bathorimikihorsemanship
    @bathorimikihorsemanship3 жыл бұрын

    It's reassuring to see your horse doing the same nonstop, "chain yawning" as my own.

  • @spyscy
    @spyscy3 жыл бұрын

    That stallion is SO CUTE!!! I had a lot of fun just watching him “horse around” this video 😹😹 what a goofy boy

  • @alexg.4402
    @alexg.44027 ай бұрын

    My stallion is exactly the same! I’ve always engaged with him, even when I didn’t know better and everybody told me I can’t let him touch me and stuff like that. He’s very well behaved and whenever I just hang out with him and rub his muzzle he yawns nonstop!

  • @lisawhite9885
    @lisawhite98853 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Gorgeous, sweet stallion. It infuriates me when I see ppl smack their horse’s in the face for doing just what your stallion is doing. So nice to hear your explanation for that behavior.

  • @K8-BB8
    @K8-BB83 жыл бұрын

    Its as much of a bite as is a scratch from a cat when they are kneading/making biscuits on you. :)

  • @hollyputman1252
    @hollyputman12522 жыл бұрын

    You are exceptional. My baby horse loves mouth engagement. Never bites, just needs the additional connection.

  • @Lythaera
    @Lythaera3 жыл бұрын

    I always played with my horse's faces when they'd come nuzzle and lip on me. It just felt like the right thing to do, they're seeking connection! Sometimes, we need to just stop and watch how our horses interact with eachother. That teeth scraping thing? That's him grooming you. That's what they do when they're happy and relaxed.

  • @omarhb
    @omarhb3 жыл бұрын

    Great concept: "Marginal gains". I remember it from Economics class.

  • @lisawilson2985
    @lisawilson29853 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait to see the new videos. I love your stallion, he looks very relaxed

  • @sewingstoryprojects6178
    @sewingstoryprojects61783 жыл бұрын

    I have been watching your videos here on yt for awhile. I can't help but notice how much your horses truly love you. I can see why they do because of how you treat them, but they just adore you

  • @iriswilson6713
    @iriswilson67133 жыл бұрын

    There are stress relieve points on the gums that is why horses love them being rubbed. Horses release stress by rubbing their gums on their legs.

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious113 жыл бұрын

    My horse is a biter and has been since we got him a s a youngster. I know enough not to get bit but he often is coming at me with teeth and ear pinning. It seems to come from defensiveness that can escalate to aggressiveness. I’ve been doing the engaging and also reassuring him that he’s OK. I notice he’s doing a lot of yawning like your stallion. Thank you for showing what you do with a mouthy horse. There’s not a lot of info out there on it.

  • @mihakabercic4457

    @mihakabercic4457

    2 жыл бұрын

    make sure your only engaging with his muzzle and not any further and dont let him be the boss or else he will think he can do anything he wants

  • @noralinbo815
    @noralinbo8153 жыл бұрын

    I love the progress he has made, what a sweet boy. Great job Warwick Schiller

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same Nora. My post-surgery yearling filly that is currently strictly confined due to her plaster fetlock cast & went a bit cabin crazy, but the 3+ times daily interaction for meds, vet, temp taking, cast checking, feeds, etc., using this interaction method has helped her calm down immensely. I've sorta "hybridized" Warwick Schiller with Pat Parelli, that complement each other, so I play around with a term I love calling the "Schillerelli" method & it has changed my darling golden freakazoid bitch into a golden engaged fairy-kitten that no longer charges to get out the stable door to freedom & breaking my toe 4 weeks ago. I see all the changes, so encouraging that it makes me want to cry. I feel when that cast comes off in 2 weeks the X-rays will likely show some beautiful healing & make the following year of gentle rehab easier & will help her calmness to make her more confident & therefore more manageable. I've even told Warwick in these comments that as soon as I can afford to, I will definitely pay him (with a big tip) for all of the help he has given freely on YT since I discovered him less than a year ago...but right now I'm paying a monster vet bill. Thank you, Warrick, you are magic & I ain't just saying that coz you're a fellow Aussie. XX

  • @sarahbiermann5889
    @sarahbiermann58893 жыл бұрын

    I am so happy to see a video from you today. I always feel like I am being spiritually awakened. I don't have a horse now, but I apply your wisdom the the dog we adopted. It is obvious that she had some tough times in the first year of her life. Ex. She's scared of lots of things like plastic bags. following your guidance, I moved the scary thing away each time she put her attention on it or moved toward it. Now it's like a game. If she is scared and I move it away she immediately thinks it's safe and even fun and rushes toward what had frightened her just minutes before. Thank you for what you offer us. It can be applied to all animals, including humans. 💜

  • @randomvielleuse527

    @randomvielleuse527

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is so wonderful! Well done! And what a lucky dog to have landed with you. :)

  • @user-ys2ll4px9j
    @user-ys2ll4px9j2 жыл бұрын

    The hand "biting" thing is just what geldings do to each other when they're loose in the field. At least it appears to be

  • @kathrynmorelli5226
    @kathrynmorelli52263 жыл бұрын

    Really good session, I think your buddy needs some sunglasses and a visor, lol. This applies across the board , thank you.

  • @marcyharris381

    @marcyharris381

    3 жыл бұрын

    sunblock. And Grease paint to address the reflection

  • @justynagiezynska6939
    @justynagiezynska69392 жыл бұрын

    Dear Warwick, I am just delighted that I found you on YT. I just bought a horse, I am a first time horse owner and this is a whole different ball game than just riding them... So I am soaking up everything you say because it truly fits with my life philosophy and how I want to raise my 3,5 yrs-old-straight-off-a-race-track Arabian! Best from Poland.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm humbled to be a part of your journey.

  • @truthwillwin3
    @truthwillwin33 жыл бұрын

    It’s really amazing how much he comes off of tension when he is around you in the videos. Before you bought him he seemed to be under a ton of stress

  • @pamelapeterson2987
    @pamelapeterson29873 жыл бұрын

    BTW, when you speak of "marginal gains" it reminds me of a book written about Coach John Wooden. He was so successful in his career because he focused on the little details....For instance, I recall that he taught his players how to put on their socks so the seams didn't rub on them. He also emphasized doing drills to improve all the little foundation skills.

  • @marialundqvist9444
    @marialundqvist94443 жыл бұрын

    What a lovely horse! Just wonderful. :-)

  • @lvpisias
    @lvpisias3 жыл бұрын

    The "biting" looks like grooming to me. Very similar to what cats do when grooming humans. I love that you are so willing to look through various lenses at animal behavior.

  • @KMJCAN1313
    @KMJCAN13133 жыл бұрын

    Love it, Warwick, thank you. :D "Where is your wither?" lol

  • @KMJCAN1313

    @KMJCAN1313

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Ohh, I'll make do, then", lol ;) :D

  • @bwci33
    @bwci333 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this tip! My new Spanish (late) gelding is always trying to play and it's getting to be dangerous for me. Saying no is just intensifyoing the problem. We have had walk sessions where he is beginning to relax if I ask him to just stand still with me an be quiet. I'll start listening better to what he has to say.

  • @sallyannefrancis8647
    @sallyannefrancis86473 жыл бұрын

    That is one special horse !!

  • @1sacoyle
    @1sacoyle3 жыл бұрын

    I was working on a little liberty training with my 18 yr. Haflinger gelding that I have only had for 8 mo. ( seeing if I could get him to follow me) He has been very spooky and just not completely settled in. Today a got a few big yawns out of him! He's finally starting to relax.

  • @beverlyballard3845
    @beverlyballard38453 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful horse. Thank you! 🌻🐎🌻

  • @2bzyblack
    @2bzyblack3 жыл бұрын

    I feel the 'biting' action is a lot like a nursing foal, it's kind of an affectionate nuzzling

  • @lauramendel6232
    @lauramendel62323 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining this behavior. My young mare is like your stallion, she is always looking for engagement with me. So I hope I can help her with my learning from you now.

  • @angelabrown7841
    @angelabrown78413 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I have a young horse that gets bitey when he gets anxious. I have had him 3 months. In the past he must have been punished for this behavior by being hit on the head, which did not cure the nipping problem and actually has created a new problem of being slightly headshy if approached from certain angles. When I go to brush his head or even reach my hand upward near his head, he does everything he can to get away from me and is scared. He only reacts to this when he sees my hand approaching, otherwise I can rub him all over with a carrot stick with absolutely no reaction in those same areas that when he sees my hand approaching he gets upset. I have been trying your technique with him and he's improving. He seems to really enjoy having my hand cup his upper lip/nostrils and he calms down. Of course, this will take some time, but seeing the improvement in your wife's horse is so encouraging. He is stunning, by the way.

  • @nicoleb7053
    @nicoleb70533 жыл бұрын

    Just a little bit ago my two year old paint filly had a bunch of crusties on her nose, so I took the time to gently pick them off and having my fingers around and honestly even in her nose made her EXTREMELY relaxed! Nobody at my barn cares to bond with their horses like this and it’s so disheartening. They just ride them and that’s it :/

  • @evelynnusic2629
    @evelynnusic26293 жыл бұрын

    There is a powerful acupuncture point at the center of the gums on the upper jaw that is good for calming the mind. Maybe that's why Rey likes for you to rub him there.

  • @wirepuppy
    @wirepuppy3 жыл бұрын

    I love this series! My gelding likes to do that thing with his teeth on my hand as well and he’s very gentle. It has nothing to do with biting!

  • @3Sanibel33
    @3Sanibel333 жыл бұрын

    Really love this information, thank you. So interesting and your interactions with the horses are amazing. And he is a funny guy, that stallion. ❣️🍀

  • @BellaxStrega
    @BellaxStrega2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. This is really interesting. I have a young, blind stallion I rescued recently and I have instinctively done a lot of this kind of engagement with him when he's a little mouthy and have seen a LOT of yawning. I worried a little that I might be teaching him to bite and that the yawning might be a sign of stress or discomfort though he seems pretty relaxed when he's doing it. I know some of my horse friends think I'm doing something stupid, but he's like a big puppy dog and not at all aggressive. I got nipped a couple times early on but it hasn't escalated and seems to have worked its way out of his system. I'm very happy to see this. I feel more and more like we're building a strong bond and are on the right track. Thank you so much ❤️.

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman3 жыл бұрын

    Food for thought, thanks!

  • @dellefairclough5309
    @dellefairclough53093 жыл бұрын

    I've started to think about the little things, to help the horses which need the help, it is interesting work, looking forward to what I can learn from you - thank you:)

  • @7rays
    @7rays3 жыл бұрын

    I love that horse!

  • @Max-cd8fm
    @Max-cd8fm3 жыл бұрын

    Great video ! I make the mistake of being in the play zone...I’ll try the muzzle only

  • @rosalindpaterson2043
    @rosalindpaterson20433 жыл бұрын

    Im doing this and my horse transformed. Yawns then a wee He wants 2 engage but sometimes pins ear and tries to nip This technique works given time and patience

  • @manuelmamann5035
    @manuelmamann50353 жыл бұрын

    when a animal without hand wanna sratch somebody it might look like biting.

  • @karenmegert5872
    @karenmegert58723 жыл бұрын

    Excellent to see this series. Thank you. Your stallion is such a sweet boy

  • @RosebudBB
    @RosebudBB3 жыл бұрын

    I have a POA Stallion I feed carrots to several times a week. He runs on 170 acres with his mares. No nip or snip. Just loves to be petted and face rubs.

  • @victoriaolender6289
    @victoriaolender62893 жыл бұрын

    Through watching your videos on engagement, I've begun to notice this behaviour among horses at my barn. They'll reach out with a curious expression and pricked ears, some will even do the light grooming on your hand. Others will just want to rub their muzzle on your hand for a few seconds and that's enough, they'll go back to their business with a lick and a chew. I see a lot of horse people around me mistake asking for engagement as a horse trying to be dominant, testing you, or just being "bad". Smacks and commands to back up usually ensue. I think there's a big difference between actual testing/dominance behaviour and asking for engagement, i.e. body language from both humans and horses. For example, walking on eggshells around a horse tends to turn things to the testing/dominance end of the spectrum because the person is anxious, uncomfortable, and the horse feels like they need to assume the leadership role. We all know what kind of vicious cycle that can lead to.

  • @milogoltz3616
    @milogoltz36163 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much Mr. Schiller! "They know" when the one they like on the ground is "up," and I think that the confidence bond gets stronger. My dad used to say: "You've got to talk to them!" I must agree that the horse's enemies are historically silent killers or the ones in a parade where it's bedlam for noise. SO....kind voice interaction will make my mare buckle at the knees, dozing off, when I'm carrying on a conversation with some one at a show or round pen. Your tone of voice can speak volumes and pronunciations as well. How many times haven't you blurbed something unplanned and your ride will respond to a "T" what they THOUGHT you said. They're miracles of creation and help you get out of "the proverbial fart sack" every morning. HalleluYAH.

  • @wendylow5748
    @wendylow57482 жыл бұрын

    This adorable horse needs sunglasses in this arena, he is squinting a lot. Boy is he cool.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    2 жыл бұрын

    We have a lot of videos of him with them on, I’m sure you’ve seen them

  • @sandra4equifino52
    @sandra4equifino523 жыл бұрын

    03:57 There are even two very important acupuncture/acupressure points exactly where you are rubbing. These two points in combination are triggered to achieve relaxation and balance.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @lisazappolo9989

    @lisazappolo9989

    3 жыл бұрын

    On the muzzle or gums?

  • @Galemor1
    @Galemor13 жыл бұрын

    That teeth thing, isn't that an invite for scratches? I scratch you, you scratch me?

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but I think interaction coupled with Warrick's explanation of the specific areas of interaction is invaluable, judging from the 'homework' I've been doing. Success!

  • @ruthdow2205
    @ruthdow22053 жыл бұрын

    My gelding Woody is like this. Always wanting to engage so going to give it a try!

  • @cabweirich2284
    @cabweirich22843 жыл бұрын

    I love his compassion.

  • @mm25937
    @mm259373 жыл бұрын

    Thank you SO MUCH for this video!!! My Chaandee ist doing this sol the time - trying ti 'bite' my hand... But he isn't that cautious. Knowing, and seeing this, It makes so much sense... I'm waiting for that series you spoke of. I think that will be so usefull and revealing....

  • @HorseMoNH
    @HorseMoNH3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video!

  • @00katydid00
    @00katydid00 Жыл бұрын

    Lovely video, thank you.

  • @skyrocketcoast219
    @skyrocketcoast2193 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @robynmcleroy216
    @robynmcleroy2163 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this!! I know I'm don't this but sometimes I do rub his jewels 🤣🤦‍♀️❤

  • @andreabenfell5580
    @andreabenfell55803 жыл бұрын

    He is grooming you.

  • @davidmeiklejohn6186
    @davidmeiklejohn61863 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for confirming this behavior,since you advised me to do this 8 months ago with my colt, I wasn't sure if I was doing it correctly,but grateful to know it was correct,great to have your knowledge available to me, cheers Warwick.

  • @jenniferroelands2429
    @jenniferroelands24293 жыл бұрын

    Yes, this is my mare! Thanks so much for sharing. I have never reprimanded her for doing this, however mostly because I wasn't sure where it was coming from, but like your horse, her feet don't move. Although I will say she is more tense with her head up...maybe she's reading my anxiety about it. Looking forward to the new series!

  • @pattievon6904
    @pattievon69043 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the details on the zones.

  • @maliabryngelson5581
    @maliabryngelson55813 жыл бұрын

    I can’t wait to try this.

  • @margrietoregan828
    @margrietoregan8283 жыл бұрын

    Stunning, superlative, absolutely stellar ....... Forgive my patronising comment but “you’ve come a very long way over the last few years” from when you started doing videos ....😂🤣😂🤣😂 Good on ya !!! So incredibly inspirational. ......xxxxxxx

  • @kaja3131
    @kaja3131 Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely adorable on so many levels. I am trying to lear so much from you and use it with my horses. Sometimes i fail miserably because i get confused. There are so many situations where i don’t always remember the appropriate response for the situation but then i go back to your account and try to figure out what i did and what i should have done.

  • @kat0329
    @kat03293 жыл бұрын

    My both horses, a 4yo and a 23yo both are very "mouthy" and I never turn away or tell them no. The older one likes to kiss me all over (I get soaked) and taste my clothing with his lips, and the young one loves to play with her mouth with both my hands, my hair, my hat... I have always seen it as their way to connect and tell them they like spending time with me. None of them have ever bitten me.

  • @xhaltsalute

    @xhaltsalute

    2 жыл бұрын

    He seems to be trying to suckle on him. Quite the comforting technique for the hose. Well sone Warwick,

  • @lauraalbertson7821
    @lauraalbertson78212 жыл бұрын

    Your videos on this subject are exactly what I need l. Thank you so much ! Laura 💜 Bear

  • @isanybodyoutthere9694
    @isanybodyoutthere96943 жыл бұрын

    This was very helpful! I was just pondering this topic while I was playing with my horses this morning. One of my horses likes to reach down and bite my leg or my foot though. I am not quite sure what to do about this behavior. Normally I simply move away and try to redirect her. I do not allow her to move into me when I move away from her.

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    May I please suggest that you'll gain enormous help from watching Warrick Schiller's YT videos on mouthy or biting horses? I think you'll find them super helpful. Maybe search for Warrick Schiller on mouthy or biting horses. Good luck with your horse.

  • @skabelpunk
    @skabelpunk3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @kharaphetteplace7155
    @kharaphetteplace71553 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful knowledge!!! Have you checked into Linda Tellington-Jones??? She goes into great detail about mouth work😀👍❤️

  • @ShogunHull
    @ShogunHull3 жыл бұрын

    right..he's just rubbing his teeth on your flat hand.. its very endearing. He's beautiful and warm and wonderful. umhmm

  • @elizabethsproule5227
    @elizabethsproule52273 жыл бұрын

    When I groom my horse inside the top of the leg, she lifts her foot. I think it's a signal that she wants me to continue but other people think its aggression. Am I wrong? She seems relaxed otherwise.

  • @mdee860

    @mdee860

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Eizabeth Sproule - Wait for Warwick's answer, but in that sensitive spot, I think your horse might just be ticklish there. Esp. if your horse hasn't tried to aim for you! Many horses can get super excited at breakfast & dinner time - whinnies, whickers, shouts! & quite a few lift a front hoof & tuck it under while eating as an expression of joy & happiness! I would be interested to hear an expert's response.

  • @debbiewilson2326
    @debbiewilson23263 жыл бұрын

    I have two horses that reach around to grab you. So I started doing what you suggested. Now its more like. Mom play with my mouth. They still tend to grab though. I have another horse that very gently asked to flip his lip. It makes them feel good and I think they have a feeling of being safe. Another thought is , perhaps there is a lot of tension carried in the head.

  • @elisabethblack3151
    @elisabethblack31513 жыл бұрын

    I really love the work you are sharing with the world, it is always so insightful. I remember when you first posted about this way of engaging with horses and I've been using the basics quite successfully for awhile now. I'm really going to focus on the lower muzzle and see if it helps my current circumstances... My horse has always engaged inquisitively and never offered to bite until a few weeks ago. I tried an experiment from a book that has merit but isn't very applicable for real life, It's the one you had to stop reading. (One premise is to provide horses "ownership" over their own tack, etc. whereby the authors encourage them to play with everything.) So I allowed my gelding to play with a brush that he is very interested in, but as soon as he crunched it, flung it across the room and reached down to destroy his grooming kit, I realized..no, not really a super idea after all and took it away. Coincidently, that day he started biting at me for the first time ever - albeit playfully, but not ok. I realize there's multiple things going on here; he's very curious, really likes to engage and seems to want to play a lot more, we just need to do it in a safer way as there's a boundary issue that has come up. I'm hoping this technique might be a useful tool as we work through this biting phase. Thanks for everything you do!

  • @krissycomp
    @krissycomp3 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed his constant yawning and sensory seeking with you, and from my perspective, he seems quite bored and is looking to engage his curiosity. I get the whole sensory play with his mouth/lips to provide him some sensory feedback; however, I wonder if he would benefit from more movement play than just standing there trying to nip. I think the nipping could be a sign that he's bored/checking out and needs some stimulation than just standing there and mouthing around. What are your thoughts on this?

  • @pamelapeterson2987
    @pamelapeterson29873 жыл бұрын

    Interesting....I've thought in some instances that it actually was the opposite and that the horse being mouthy was a precursor to a release of tension rather than the opposite....for instance, with my youngest horse, when he wants to yawn and release tension, he gets very mouthy and it seems like a displaced behavior or possibly that it helps loosen tension in his jaw so he can yawn and release...like a big fidget...if there is anything else around like a lead rope hanging on a fence, he will start to move his mouth on that prior to releasing/yawning, and often snorting occurs shortly after that. I've observed this while doing bodywork on horses as well....some horses fidget before releasing by moving their feet, swishing their tail, or again, by trying to move their mouth on me or something else in the environment. It's almost like being mouthy helps them to loosen tension in their jaw to allow for the yawn. Regardless, engaging them as you do would be the right thing even if this is the case and not punishing them just when they are starting to relax. Interested to know of anyone else's experience in this regard.

  • @Carroty_Peg
    @Carroty_Peg3 жыл бұрын

    Warwick, would you ever compete in the Mongol Horse Derby? The Adventurists run the competition and it looks extraordinary

  • @amandak3198
    @amandak31983 жыл бұрын

    People make stallions aggressive when they view everything the horse does as being aggressive and discipline for it. Stallions are actually very playful, and you get further ahead with them if you find a way to engage with that instead of shutting them down. Stallions are often kept solitary from a very young age, they don't learn horse interaction the same way geldings and mares do when they can't interact with, touch and feel, other horses. And so they try to be very interactive with humans and learn from us. They mouth, nip, bow their necks up, buck, rear, etc., all the things they would do with a herd. Of course those things can be dangerous because humans aren't 1,000 lbs, but instead of immediately punishing and shutting them down, I always try to find a way to engage that energy in a different outlet. And its interesting, because I will very often "play", touching and rubbing, the lips and mouth area, which seems to be more effective at preventing a bite than "showing them who's boss".

  • @mynyx1344
    @mynyx13443 жыл бұрын

    When I engage with my gelding, keeping my hand flat, he will try to get my hand in his mouth with his lips or he will turn his head to try to grab my hand. I am savvy enough to not get bit but I don't understand why he seems so set on eating my hand versus just engaging? His ears aren't pinned but it feels very... forceful on his part? My gelding is also getting mouthier about everything, too. Which I assume is stress. But I am struggling to help him. I saw you touched this stallion under the chin some when you engaged with him. I will try that to see if it helps with engaging with my gelding? Thank you, Warwick, for another knowledgeable and insightful video!

  • @heelsdownaz
    @heelsdownaz3 жыл бұрын

    I have a question... how do you know that the horse isn't "introverted" or zoning out... like using you as a kind of stressor but also trying to relax. Does the behavior truly just melt away over time?

  • @garagesessie1191
    @garagesessie11913 жыл бұрын

    Okay i keep watching these videos and the thing i really want to know is how do you get your horses to respond so easily and do what you as with only a tiny bit of pressure?

  • @lindylufromoz5111

    @lindylufromoz5111

    3 жыл бұрын

    It would help you to watch as many Warrick Schiller videos as you can find. You'll see that it's all incremental, bit by bit, with groundwork & highly successful. All the best.

  • @lisafoster4468
    @lisafoster44683 жыл бұрын

    Big things are only small things in groups.

  • @tinoyb9294
    @tinoyb92943 жыл бұрын

    Is this another Gunner offspring? That bald face pattern is stunning. Paints always seem to be goofy.

  • @user-uy7if3rc1p
    @user-uy7if3rc1p3 жыл бұрын

    My horse does the same thing, only much more aggressive and angry. He was very shutdown and completely ignored people. Now he's coming out of his shell, so I can barely get him from the stable to the paddock. He gets scared, jumps around me, snorting, and breathes fast. After that, he calms down, lowers his head. These explosions happen every time he goes outside or in round pen. I don't know what to do. He's very dangerous and I can't work with him.

  • @jillmain464

    @jillmain464

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your horse has some issues and you shouldn't endanger yourself unnecessarily, but it sounds like your on a good path if you're looking into connection-based training like this. Nevertheless, it sounds like your horse is suffering from being stabled and doesn't enjoy his work. 16 years ago, before the last slaughterhouse in the US was shut down, my father's quarterhorse, who was my mare's mother, foundered and was sold at auction for 33 dollars to be slaughtered up the road in Kauffman, Texas. My mare used to be extremely aggressive, she was semi feral and by herself in the pasture by her third year of age. She was green broke by a local cowboy who taught me how to ride in a few weeks, before I was old enough to drive, because my father was dead. My mare thrashed in a trailer and had to get 17 stitches up her head, she was a problem horse, but she was out in a pasture by herself except for the deer, and she used to get very protective of their vulnerable fawns when they were bed down in her territory. She used to buck, bolt, and bite, it was only after I got another mare that she started to calm down a bit. It took years of taking care of her, for her to seem to like me, and for me to get over my fear of a fearsome mare. The hardest thing was the trailer, It took months of working with her to get her used to walking in and backing out of the trailer. I swear that her anxiety about the trailer wasn't about the trailer itself. It wasn't until her first trailer ride in over 10 years, which was to the vet to get her teeth floated, that she loaded up and backed out of the trailer without exploding backwards. After that trip to the vet, she didn't have any problems with the trailer, because she trusted that I would take her back to her pasture and her companion mare. I have been focused on the environment I'm keeping her in, the pasture, and studying horse training, but hopefully now I've rescued this horse from myself. Stables don't always provide as high a quality of life for horses as being in some type of herd and allowed more freedom of movement. Horses are about as smart as 13 year old humans, they have the biggest brains of any domesticated animal, so try to understand the pressure of being coerced to perform various tasks in unnatural environments while not knowing where your loved ones are taken when they're cut from the herd. Some horses are better suited to guard sheep or other livestock than to be riding horses, my mares kill dogs and coyote/wolves, so don't give up. My stallion was used to guard sheep. Help your horse overcome it's anxiety or find a better home for it, good luck!

  • @user-uy7if3rc1p

    @user-uy7if3rc1p

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of this horses is my. I've only owned it for six months. I don't know that it was so terribly for him. kzread.info/dash/bejne/maemypRtZrXYh5M.html One month I work with him to created connection.

  • @desireebryant3658
    @desireebryant36583 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to your series. Noticed him linking you. Why do they do that. I have a 16yo gelding I have had since a 3yo. He has recently starting liking my hands and he will just keep liking. He has salt and mineral blocks. What is he wanting from me by doing this? Thanks.

  • @TheSteelpony

    @TheSteelpony

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't claim to be an expert, but IMO he's just trying to express how much he cares for you! What a sweetie.

  • @dstang623
    @dstang6233 жыл бұрын

    I lease a 17 year old former cutting horse. I notice that when I brush his left side he turns his neck all the way around to me. I assume he is trying to tell me something but I don’t know what. I usually cuddle his head. He often moves away from me when I am grooming him. I usually wait till he comes back to continue. I am making a very concerted effort to figure out what he is saying to me. I am in no rush and have no particular goals other than I want to understand and connect. He is a huge yawner when I brush under his mane on the right side of his body. It’s hilarious, really. I am interested in any insight you have to share. I have been away from horses for 28 years and these videos and podcasts have brought an entirely different perspective than I ever had before- I used to ride, groom etc- never a thought for the horse. I loved them and treated them with kindness but never considered their communication, really. I truly want this guy to feel “gotten” as I sense he hasn’t been most of his life.

  • @taylordockter837

    @taylordockter837

    3 жыл бұрын

    My mare “points” to itchy or sore spots. She has one spot she consistently points at with her nose. I just lay my hand on the spot letting just the weight of my hand sit there until she licks and chews or does some other type of release. After that, she seems satisfied and doesn’t point at the spot again. The idea is based on the masterson method for body work of drawing attention to points of tension

  • @user-rk1sn4sy3p
    @user-rk1sn4sy3p6 ай бұрын

    יפה מגניב

  • @bethb7455
    @bethb74553 жыл бұрын

    What should we do if our horse shoved us around with his head? It’s kinda like he’s trying to itch on us and maybe it’s just that simple instead of just itching it’s like he try’s to shove us around. My other horses will itch on us but not fling their head to shove if that makes any sense. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!

  • @cindyryan5169
    @cindyryan51693 жыл бұрын

    ❤️

  • @Jessica-et1ym
    @Jessica-et1ym3 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned if a horse crowds you with their body you'd stop engaging and get their body away from you - is pushing their chest a good option or would they still see that as engagement/play?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    No , steady pressure on nany part of the horses body tends to cause them to push into it

  • @lifeastride
    @lifeastride3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2yr old miniature gelding who is in training to be a therapy horse. I would like him to be able to visit hospitals and nursing homes. He loves to engage with people but he is a nibbler. Do you think this technique might be suitable for him? I need to get him to the point where he isn’t mouthing at patients in order for him to be able to start work as therapy horse.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    "he is trained to be a therapy horse' and "he is a nibbler" dont really go togtehr. I imagine if he was "trained' to be a therapy horse he wouldnt be a nibbler, just like a dog trained to be a therapy dog would not be a biter...

  • @xaiapoole7625
    @xaiapoole76253 жыл бұрын

    First❤️❤️

  • @solbjrgkristiansen3699
    @solbjrgkristiansen36993 жыл бұрын

    I do this when my Lusitano wants to engage with me, in this way. But when i ask for a task, like crossing the hind legs. He bites quite aggressivly with pinned ears, not that cosy. This is a horse who was shut down when he came to me. What do i do with that? . Clearly a lot of stress there.

  • @brendareed8412

    @brendareed8412

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe seek out the task so small that he does not resist, then work logically from there.

  • @brendareed8412

    @brendareed8412

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if horses like yours have had a very bad experience and their aggression is a way of saying, "No, I remember this kind of stuff. We're going to stop this right now!" Anyway, I am not a trainer, just an observer of animals, so take my suggestion for what's worth.

  • @solbjrgkristiansen3699

    @solbjrgkristiansen3699

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yes, mine is severly traumatized. Very rough handling in Portugal, before he came to Norway. Thats way I've just stood out of harms way, when he've done that. I can see how he is struggling and being defensive. I'm asking in a gentle way, but just don't seem to quite get him to understand. But after this the lick and chew and jawn comes. I do stand there and he chews it out. But still he's always defensive. I wonder if there is something else to do 🤷

  • @gatruckingdirtworkarriaga5221
    @gatruckingdirtworkarriaga52213 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @traceyrambles8287

    @traceyrambles8287

    3 жыл бұрын

    This. I have a two-year-old Filly at that is wonderful to me but will nip at my husband and daughter just in passing because they don't stop to acknowledge her. She is curious and sweet but they think he is a nasty brat. She's not, she just as curious about them and wants their attention. I've seen her do it and it looks a bit aggressive at first glance... told my husband if he just slows down, acknowledges her and just spend a minute rubbing on her and talking to her before he walks away she's not going to do it. Of course they don't listen to me. Perfect timing for this video. I'm going to make some watch it.

  • @editheden1739
    @editheden17393 жыл бұрын

    He's a darlin

  • @KrikitKaos
    @KrikitKaos3 жыл бұрын

    This squinty horse needs some sunglasses.

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