In which I say "At the same time" as often as possible.

"Burn in atheist hell"- me, living in Texas, actively burning in atheist hell.

"Bird Shot" would be a good podcast title!

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Hah! I love it.

@mrchiefbs

2 жыл бұрын

Bird shit podcast

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrchiefbs It has a certain je ne sais quoi.

Good shit Mang, keep em coming.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, my friend!

Is this podcast available anywhere else? Having it on another platform like Google podcasts would be great. The ability to download and not have to have the screen on to play would make things nice. Still going to have a listen just not on my phone.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought about uploading other places, but it's a surprising hassle. If these become a regular thing, I'll definitely make it happen!

@HsCSpanky

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin I'll look forward to it either way. I like your perspective on things

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, my friend!

If you think it is feasible, time stamps by subject would be super helpful in the video description.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

If I have time, I'll make it happen. Thanks!

Fuckin love it dude. Keep posting great content!

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! I'm honored!

Been a fan and always enjoy your videos, personality and your pov. You should definitely check out some anime, some of the story's and thems are very good and I believe you would enjoy it.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, and I'm open to it! I think what I've been shown just didn't work for me, at the time. You know how it when you explore something new -- presentation and first impressions are everything,

I think its important to recognize that the Constitution, particularly the Bill of Rights merely outlines and codifies EXISTING God-Given/Natural human rights. So as much as I respect the Constitution, even if they somehow repealed the 2nd Amendment I would still say the Right to Bear Arms is still an inherent human right that all people are entitled to.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Well, yes, of course. That is the very nature of a human right.

The more I peeled the onion back on the roots of abortion and one of it's strongest proponents beliefs, Margaret Sanger, the less I cared for the practice. Not even on a religious level, just more of a general morality perspective. Do I have a problem with the law as a Texan? It's a bit ham-fisted and top heavy yet that is government intervention. Every. Single. Time. On a moral level, no. I don't have a problem with it.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that. You dislike the practice, but you support its legality? I can't argue with that at all.

@lasombra120680

2 жыл бұрын

For a lib, ya ain't so bad. You have a real grasp of context and nuance, even if you lean left. Also, I have a G:40 because of you.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

For a conservative, you're a real keeper -- you seem like you can read. Jokes aside, I very much appreciate you, and all perspectives are welcome here, always. Also, you made a great choice with the G40! It's still one of my favorite guns.

@mrchiefbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@lasombra120680 not all "libs" are anti gun or insufferable. We all have common ground and it takes a second to see common sense. The problem is that these "sides" perpetuate a never compromise perspective. It's not true and it's Unamerican.

@nathanwilliams3877

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrchiefbs preach

This is quite an old video, so I don’t know if you’ll ever see this, but… I like the cut of your jib, sir! - another left & down atheist

This was a delightful pu pu platter of a podcast.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

It sure is pu pu.

Yeah man, RIP our Mak ammo. I have about 500 rounds saved up but damn. Sad! Not to mention my poor SAM7...it loves chewing through steel. Guess it eats the good stuff now.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

Uggh yeah, it's going to be a hard few years for those of us who like the weirder stuff. It's a damn shame.

@nathanwilliams3877

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin indeed. Gunna have to get out & train with my CZ75 more now. I am one of those new gun owners (within the last year) & I am also generally left leaning. Not liberal, not "commie", just...empathetic. At least that's how I'd put it. You approach some very interesting & complex topics in this episode, and I find myself agreeing with you and applauding how well spoken you are. I would very much enjoy getting a few reading recommendations from ya, if you'd be so kind. Last thought here. I'm in Southern Oregon & have been very warmly welcomed into the local firearm community, and have felt no judgment from anyone. Keep in mind, this is a very conservative area, & I see POC & LGBTQ+ folk out training at the range, and haven't heard of any ill-will from anyone. It can still be done, people can come together over a common interest, even with all the purposeful division over the last several years (decades, forever, whatever). It's just nice to see. Thanks for extending that feeling of community (and ya knowledge!) into the online realm, it has definitely helped me, and probably many like me.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

It's great to here that your local gun community is so politically diverse! Seriously, that's heartwarming. I hope that more places end up with that sort of community. Also, thank you for the kind words, and I'm happy to recommend a few books! What are you interested in?

@nathanwilliams3877

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin I hope so too, it really is great to see, let alone be a part of. I'm interested in political theory, history, US history/politics, firearm history, battlefield tactics, survival, I'll take any suggestion really. My current "unread" list is dwindling.

@mrchiefbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@nathanwilliams3877 we are the same!

"Safe, legal, rare " ya thats what it was supposed to be. Dont get grumpy when the pendulum swings.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

So I shouldn't be angry when a right is lost to us? I'm not angry, as much as disgusted.

@rustyshackleford4438

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin you should always be upset when rights are taken. I don't like abortion, all I ask is not to subsidize it with taxpayers money. The laws have gotten extremely liberal in other parts of the country (NY to be specific). It seems like it's a response, most likely it will be overturned. I wish my state was focusing on other things then abortion. I said don't be grumpy because it's what we've been told( gun owners) for a while. Remember that saying " elections have consequences "

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

If abortion stays entirely legal, I think we can perhaps compromise on use of public funds. Is that what I want to see? No. But American stability sprouts from that sort of compromise. I personally want the government to give every American coupons for 6 free abortions, and 6 free suppressors, but I don't always get what I want. So gun folks have been told not to be grumpy? Why shouldn't we be? And yes, elections have consequences. In the above podcast, I discussed that for 35 minutes.

@rustyshackleford4438

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin sorry haven't been watching your content for a while, I don't think the government should give me shit nor restrict me from medical procedures. I like stirring the shit pot from now and then so I intentionally wrote my comment to get a reaction from you

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

I see; you wanted to get heckled. Unfortunately, you were not ridiculous enough to warrant a truly excellent heckle. Also, you're smart -- most folks should avoid my content at all costs. Why would you be restricted from receiving medical procedures? Do you need an abortion?

Hopefully I can offer another perspective on the abortion laws. A pro-life vote is a pro individual right vote. If you do not defend the rights of a person that has just been conceived the line of what constitutes a person with rights is severely skewed, that's why you have people saying it's okay to have an abortion up to 5 years old, at what point does somebody's constitutional right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness or property kick in? I do not argue pro-life on the grounds of religion but on the grounds of individual rights and I believe that at conception if your gender, and personal attributes are now decided for the rest of your life then your rights should be protected as well. if you are looking for historical precedent look up blackstone's commentaries on British law. The moment that you are aware that you have a child is when they become a British citizen. And nowadays we can discover if somebody is pregnant almost immediately so at that point their constitutional rights should be protected.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your perspective. The problem is that life is not consciousness. And as a society, we absolutely weigh consciousness above life. We do it every day, with the food we eat. Cells are not a living person. A mother is conscious, and has a human life. And if we want to discuss precedent, mothers have been disposing of babies, often legally, for as long as human society has existed. I can cite more examples than can be mentioned in a comment, or video. That said, I say none of this to disrespect your perspective or position.

@Insectoidoverlords

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin I have literally watched a baby try to fight off a doctor in the womb over ultrasound. If that is not consciousness and life I don't know what is? If a person in the womb can recognize a threat and fight that threat for survival I believe that that right should be protected. I am a believer in all life is precious and should be protected. I do not believe in animal cruelty nor do I believe in chopping down rain forests that have been alive for thousands if not millions of years to meet corporate quotas but I also don't necessarily believe that dolphins and palm trees have the right to bear arms or the right of free speech. I believe those are human rights and when a sperm meets an egg that becomes a human being. I do not deal necessarily with consciousness but scientific certainty. Unless you can provide evidence that a human sperm meeting a human egg will turn into a puppy I don't think there's any reason to doubt the inevitable outcome. Thanks for the response. Overall we have to work together to protect our rights.

@thegunpenguin

2 жыл бұрын

How old was the baby? Did it tell you it was fighting to live? Sometimes things don't come across well in text, so I want to express that I mean no disrespect. But I need more information than a gut feeling. As to when a fetus attains consciousness, you have not presented evidence. You have presented a feeling, and an assumption. I hope that comes across the way I intend it to. Gut feelings are very important, but we can't legislate them. But we can measure brain activity, and can use that information to find a compromise point. America is built on compromise, and neither side has any intention of backing down. Regardless of our personal feelings, abortion is a federally-accorded right, and has been for decades. Beyond the precedent that Americans don't relinquish rights once they've been given, there is surely a compromise point. I'll leave that to the doctors. Six months perhaps. The fight really boils down to this: Are human cells human life, or is consciousness necessary? Really, only the latter matters. If not, then many aspects of our way of life are called into questions, or rendered moot. You're still weighing the value of one consciousness higher than another, so your argument also implies that consciousness matters, and is a factor. We need to be careful about making the argument that a collection of human cells is a valid human life that must be protected at all costs. You see the dangers. That could lead to the restriction of other medical procedures, therapies, and medicines, in a hurry. I think we should avoid that road. I really hope this comes across the way I intend it to. I'm always afraid of that, with KZread comments. What would seem like a really good, vigorous discussion in person, can often seem callous or rude online.

@Insectoidoverlords

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin thank you so much for your understanding and your delicacy. the general consensus is that a baby can feel pain at 20 weeks. Depending on your sources some say earlier. Pain and fear are something that can be observed. It does not require vocal cords and the ability of articulate speech to be communicated. It's not a very big stretch of the imagination that when you raise a newspaper to a dog and it tucks its tail between the legs that it is in fear of being hurt. Or if an animal postures in defense it senses some form of threat and is preparing to meet it. In the case of the 18 week old baby it sensed that something was in its environment this was detected by body posture (through ultrasound) and heart rate elevation and rapid movements. These were not opinions or gut feelings they are observable facts. The woman who was pro-abortion at this point (and had who had abortions) was so Disturbed by what she saw she became pro-life. As far as empirical evidence I think it is very important to follow. Not everything can be reduced to cold calculating facts. I wish it could but that is not the case. To your other point about once a right is given it should not be relinquished. The Constitution does not give rights it recognizes them. A woman has the right to choose whatever form of contraceptive preventing sperm meeting egg that she wants. For me I am okay with a morning after pill for rape, the question of rape is a whole other topic, I'm focusing on two consenting adults. The answer to these questions definitely won't be decided today LOL it will take time, philosophical and scientific research. I'm willing to compromise when we have more information. For now I draw the line at conception and believe that person's right should be protected because they will inevitably become a human being. Sperm will not become a human being on its own nor will an egg so I am okay with preventing that from happening just not aborting the pregnancy. I love to hear skepticism and conflicting points of view it's the only way to help us grow.

@Insectoidoverlords

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegunpenguin as far as historical precedent. I am only referring to that which is relevant to the forming and interpretation of our constitution. The founding fathers used blackstone's commentaries on English law when they were forming the Constitution and United States supreme Court justices have often cited blackstone's commentaries as a way to interpret what the founding fathers intended in the US Constitution. According to Blackstone when a woman is aware she is pregnant the child in her womb had its rights as a British citizen protected. This was United States supreme Court legal precedent until recently with roe v Wade. I don't think anybody would argue from the perspective that under ancient near East culture it was perfectly acceptable to sacrifice your child to a deity to win a battle or have a good harvest, that because they did such atrocious things we should be allowed to do them. Even if somebody did want to argue that point it would be moot because it is completely irrelevant to the intent of the Constitution.

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