151 | Ret. General Dan Bolger: Why We Lost in Afghanistan and Iraq
Retired General Dan Bolger, author of Why We Lost: A General’s Inside Account of the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, joins The Realignment’s season premiere to discuss the rise and fall of America’s post-9/11 military interventions.
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This guy should be a regular. There is something about him that speaks to the common person.
@smokerx893
2 жыл бұрын
it might be the common sense he uses when he speaks
@mns8732
2 жыл бұрын
They're trained that way.
Guys - what a fantastic listen. As a military vet, I found the General’s history lesson incredibly insightful. Reminded me of the best military lecturers I had while at Annapolis.
@mikeg1483
2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for ur service shipmate
@raykirkham5357
2 жыл бұрын
This "war" was a war against "terrorists." Don't tell me what a pretty story this asshole has laid out to justify what was done. We have people still in Guantanamo who have been tortured and murdered. This war was an attempt to "take the " oil, the lithium, the cobalt, etc. This guy is probably a war criminal.
@anypercentdeathless
2 жыл бұрын
He's illiterate.
This was the best thing I have seen yet on Afghanistan.
This is one of the best discussions I have ever heard. So refreshing to hear from those involved. Gen. Bolger is clear and curt, and its easy to follow his logic. Thank you.
You guys should consider longer episodes in this new season. An hour isn't enough for some discussions.
@BT-dq1me
2 жыл бұрын
I could’ve listened to this go on for another hour.
@enzoh7763
2 жыл бұрын
This episode content is awesome, Almost no bs .
@Lazris59
2 жыл бұрын
I do like the 2-3 hour talks like Lex Fridman and Joe Rogan. Especially with topics like these... they can go on forever (and should).
"' History Teaches Us that Man Learns Nothing from HISTORY "' (Hegel)
@Dave183
2 жыл бұрын
Hegel, rather than Marx leads the Chinese economic success... ...they set out to learn from their mistakes!
@kingsleyperera9655
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dave183 Fully Agree ! Thanks.
@Seekthetruth3000
2 жыл бұрын
You mean dumb man.
This has been your best interview/podcast. The commentary on current events, the questions you asked General Bolger, and his integrity in retelling what he experienced, is just so goddamn important to see and hear. I know there are good officers and enlisted who will speak plainly; thank you for finding one and giving him a place to speak.
This is such a good conversation. I wish they had shown me this in my American History courses at the university! Thank you fellas for inviting this wealth of knowledge!
Best interview I've seen about the recent happenings in Afghanistan. Two good interviewers and the General shed clear and to the point light. Thank you gentlemen.
@mikeoveli1028
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he said anything that 2as not known by every liberal in the country. It was the wrong country, at the wrong time, for the wrong reason.
@Astuga
2 жыл бұрын
I did find this more interesting and with a deeper insight. Tom Ricks: U.S. Military Leadership In Decline kzread.info/dash/bejne/gY6WyqurYJeoZco.html
@Tophet1
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeoveli1028 It's not a conservative or liberal 'thing'. Its the exportation of an alien culture that can not adapt to the foreign countries.
"Social work out of a barrel of a gun is a bad proposition." Well said, General.
NOTE TO KZread EDITOR: The realignment logo is blocked by the timestamp in the bottom right corner of all the video previews
@SensemakingMartin
2 жыл бұрын
Good spot
"killing the elephant is easy, the hard part is removing the carcass" (Safari Hunter)
@enzoh7763
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing , Removing a carcass is difficult .
@charlesmorse386
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's the hardest part of hunting but moose roast is worth it!!!
FINALLY! I've been looking all over KZread for something like this!
Considering how many important people you guys have in this show , you might have enough cred to run for president together lol. Good episode again , back to the professional attire haha.
@michaelmauro2607
2 жыл бұрын
They'd get my vote!
This was one of your best episodes. All Americans and US policy makers need to listen to this guy.
I liked this conversation but none of it was the economic, predatory motivations that put a country like ours on the ground in a country like Afghanistan. Money was made and resources were plundered by U.S. military industrial complex hawks. And this is nothing but a pivot to hit even more vulnerable states besides the ones we're already meddling with.
@lucrativeleadershipconvers5149
2 жыл бұрын
@hazel Monday, you're right. Disaster Capitalism, fueled by the warmongering male egos leading the Pentagon, is only incintivised to create more disasters. Then, the game of playing out their "savior" narrative continues it's vicious cycle. If building a "democratic society" had really been the US aim, educating citizens to create self-sustaining local economies could have helped them better manage the collapse they're faced with now.
@Seekthetruth3000
2 жыл бұрын
The Deep State that runs this country has surrendered to the Taliban and thus empowered all terrorist Islamic groups. Biden is simply a puppet.
@raysubsonic
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seekthetruth3000 u been red-pilled bud.
@Seekthetruth3000
2 жыл бұрын
@@raysubsonic ????
@yannick245
2 жыл бұрын
@@Seekthetruth3000 Biden is obviously senile. He basically can't blamed for anything.
Finally Saagar shuts up long enough to have one of the best interviews of his career. :)
This has been one of the best breakdowns during all of this mess.
My brother was special forces and fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. He made a deliberate decision to go the Civil Affairs career track: built schools, trained cops, built bridges and roads, established literacy and health programs, drilled wells, won hearts and minds. Civil Affairs track is a kiss of death for a military career, a dead end, much harder to get ahead and be promoted than troops on Combat Arms tracks.
Brilliant work. Great to have intelligent honest questions without spin or partisan points of view. Many Canadians died in Afghanistan in service to my country. I hope we learn from this so no other families suffer the needless loss in a futile war.
This was such a amazing episode. You should definitely need to get him more. Make him a regular. Also please do longer episode with him especially.
I usually have to take a pass on your episodes due to the length. I am so glad I was able to spend the time and listen to this one. I have this episode saved to my Things to Remember folder.
Bolger is the man. Actually is honest, knowledgeable and clear. Bravo.
Guys. You both did an incredible job here. Too often interviewers need to interrupt with probing questions that completely interrupt the natural progression of the story. Love that you both played the active listener roles in this one.
Why nobody talks about The Rear Earths. The Pipeline from Central Asia, and Gemstones and other minerals, and Afghanistan had nothing to do with 911, for that look within your government. Like The Bay Of Tonkin.
This needs to go viral
Brilliant speaker, and very good at boiling things down to concise and memorable points. This guy knows that understanding history is incredibly important!
This was an excellent interview. My impression of the general is one of relatability. Even though he spent years in the military, he doesn't seem carry his experience with him outside the service that to me many do. The way he describes things, the way he talks; comes across like a bridge between the military and civilian.
This was a fantastic watch. Thanks for putting this together guys
This is the best episode I’ve listened to about the war(s) by far. Great guest- I look forward to reading his books
I like how these two did their homework on what questions to ask.
Awesome interview! Thank you, General, for talking turkey to us ordinary citizens who don't see the dynamics of military & political from your learned perspective. I've learned so much!
As a veteran of the Vietnam War Crime, I can say the Afghanistan War Crime was fought for the same reason: not to win anything in the conventional sense but to enrichen the elites who fool the average person with appeals to "patriotism."
@zulfhashimmi2040
2 жыл бұрын
That is EVERY war , war is a racket
Rejoice, Afghanistan is liberated. Victory to The Resistance
@ilovenyiloveny1140
2 жыл бұрын
@@haraldyes9957 Independence means totalitarianism for the regions.
Wow, it's almost like all of the people protesting in the streets before the Afghan War and especially the Iraq War getting teargassed and called traitors were 100% right in their predictions that this would end exactly the way it has ended. Rip the bandaid off and bring our people home. Unwinnable quagmire and it always was.
@mikeoveli1028
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. All I hear is of course it was Obama's fault and Biden should not have pulled out. Then they complain about our economy because we give poor children free lunch.
Great video. The hour went really fast. And thank you Gen Dan for your service and wisdom.
Incredible conversation, guys. Thank you.
Excellent reporting . . . The Truth will set You Free . . . .!
Good interview. Glad they defined winning conditions. Still several questions to ask but this was a productive interview overall.
Great and insightful interview. Cheers fellas!!
This IS the episode that had me subscribe. Well done.
That was really interesting, I don't normally watch chat shows like this but I watched the lot.
Thank you for this my first time here
Wonderful interview, awesome conversation, thank you. 'Never seen "The Realignment" before now. Lucky find...j
Marshall ending the pod with the tease of a discussion on the current evacuation issue! Probably the right call but man I wanted to hear you guys discuss differences!!
the three of you are absolute legends, general bloger more so. buying his book right after this and hope to see him in the future
Great interview, thank you very much, please keep at it!
An extremely enlightening discussion. Many thanks to all of you.
This was one of the best, well done gentlemen…
This was a great interview and discussion. I learned a lot from listening to this!!
Great conversation. Thanks a lot for this! Stay safe.
Came from BPs. Easiest subscribe ever. This is a great show! I def agree with others that you need to consider going longer duration 👍
This was incredibly informative. I could feel this was pretty much the straight dope.
This is a great episode - thanks Marshall and Saagar!
"Bush didn't throw everything we had into Tora Bora" Remember how Gen Bolger said it's hard to find people on the ground? The reason we didn't go after Bin Ladin, is at a certain point, the local guides simply wouldn't guide us there anymore. We would have had to fight the last miles to catch him, while trying to figure out which of our allies were protecting him (and fighting them as well) while NOT shooting the guys who were actually ON our side. And according to Gen. Bolger here, they outnumbered us, too. Great.
@1stCMWARTIME
2 жыл бұрын
They asked for a cease fire that December due to the women and children they had with them..........when the call came in, instead of granting it we should have tripled the bombing. No guarantee but far better than what we did. Hind sight is too late.
I just found this, and this was an amazing interview w/ Gen. Bolger. The US needs sensible men like him in control of our military!
Thank you for this.
“ Social work at the barrel of a gun is a loosing proposition”. Damn Right!
Another great episode guys. Would love it if you had Bolger back on again, your conversation was great throughout.
I am glad to hear this General explain how we failed to promote literacy. I agree. I pushed for schools in Afghanistan back in 1989.
A great story teller! So facinating - he should lecture on these topics for Congress at any inauguration. Preferably for hours on end. -With a test afterwards!
As a sunni muslim i can tell you that the mistakes that the U.S made in the Islamic World will not be forgotten in the next centuries. This our Century of Humiliation that China went through.
This was a truely enlightening discussion. Well done.
Awesome discussion, thanks guys
This podcast is so great.
We made absolutely no effort to win, no one ever even made a plan.
@tamaliaalisjahbana9354
2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail exactly on the head. It was not the military who failed but the civilian leadership from Bush till Biden. They did not determine what exactly the aim or target was and what the strategy or plan to hit that target was. They kept changing their minds.
@Seekthetruth3000
2 жыл бұрын
@@tamaliaalisjahbana9354 The Deep State has decided to empower the Taliban and other terrorist Islamic groups by surrendering to the Taliban, Biden is simply a puppet.
GREAT EPISODE! Sidebar: Has NOBODY seen The Princess Bride? "Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and never go in against a Sicilian, when Death is on the line!"
@BT-dq1me
2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for that!
@WackadoodleMalarkey
2 жыл бұрын
_Inconceivable_
@Razaiel
2 жыл бұрын
@@WackadoodleMalarkey You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
27:16 “But the problem is-some things are just not solvable by an external force.” - Ret. General Dan Bolgor
It’s great to hear a competent general speak. My only issue is that we are never in these protracted guerrilla wars for military reasons, but economic, and that point is being divorced from the debate. Why we ended up in Afghanistan is neither surprising or incompetence. It was incredibly lucrative for private industry, and the allies of private industry in the armed services,who lobby for endless war.
wow really deep knowledge from the general just stating facts not taking any sides very articulate and interesting conversation
THE GENERAL IS VERY GOOD AND VERY ANALYTICAL!!!EXCELLENT HISTORICAL REVIEW!!
This was a really good episode
Very good discussion. Thank you for your insight.
I have much of the Gen’s work. He was most certainly a thought leader when he was on Active Duty.
Great insight, thanks
Great interview, wanted his thoughts on Syria, Yemen, and Libya going forward. Thanks for your work.
This was great. Thanks guys.
Thank you very much
It was indeed an enormous victory we had in Afghanistan and we withdrew in a glorious parade. Make no mistake, we were not chased out of Afghanistan !
@nats50
2 жыл бұрын
Losers have illusions of victory. When ego kicks in, It's called IN DENIAL! You have a lot to learn whoever you are.
Thank you for this! 🙏🏼❤️🔥 amazing
Seriously good, thanks
This intro always has me vibing
Very interesting video with details from General
This was an a very informative podcast. Thanks 👏🏾
Incredibly informative and fact based interview and history lesson
Amazing video! And the generals tie! 😍
You need to address the military industrial complex and the desire of generals to get into wars in order to advance their careers. Also, how do you keep a strong military without having them actually experience a fighting situation.
great discussion, TQ
Excellent, much enjoyed the book.
Strategy wins wars Tactics wins battles Logistics keeps an army running But it’s good governance and good quality services that wins hearts and minds.
This was really insightful.
Well discussed.
Another really good assessment of the current Afghanistan/Taliban situation comes from the Caspian Report.
Saagar always got the drip. Great podcast.
Great interview
Love this show!
Great discussion. Plenty of history available on the dangers of military intervention in Afghanistan- but our leaders didn't bother to read it.
Thank you
Good discussion! Would like to hear his take on military industrial complex and making money behind fighting wars.
god damn i am so glad i found this . luckily youtube recommended it because i follow and watch Breaking Points daily but this is fantastic