By popular demand, here's an extended version of the roundtable discussion we hosted between black conservatives and liberals. Check out some handy time codes of what was discussed below: 0:57 - What first comes to mind when you think of Donald Trump? 1:59 - "Drain the swap" and capitalism 3:28 - Who here voted for Donald Trump? 4:54 - What is your impression when you see a black person wearing a MAGA hat? 5:51 - Black conservatives talk about how they're treated in the black community 9:17 - Who here voted for Obama? 11:06 - Who was disappointed by Obama's presidency? 15:34 - Issues with the Trump presidency 16:28 - Why vote for Donald Trump? 19:55 - Disagreements on systems of oppression - welfare, taxes, etc 23:29 - Policies that Republicans and Democrats disagree on that help and hinder the black community 26:09 - Black wealth and reparations 29:24 - Black voters being synonymous with the Democratic party 32:26 - Student loans and college 35:22 - Should the black vote be courted? Watch the full-length documentary about The Young Black Conservatives of Trump's America -- kzread.info/dash/bejne/douVz5t_g7Xcd6w.html

@gcornelius308

5 жыл бұрын

VICE cmon. If you were serious about black politics youd come talk to #ADOS. These ppl here are just chatting and venting and this format leaves much to be desired.

@HT.100

5 жыл бұрын

Bring back frankie luntz

@musicworldnow365

5 жыл бұрын

@@gcornelius308 Please explain how you want VICE to talk to you and ADOS, but not black conservatives and liberals? Those people that you say are just chatting are everyday people who have to live in the real world of being attacked and mistreated just for being black, so their opinions and commentary matter too.

@packerpf

5 жыл бұрын

It wasn't at all by popular demand it's a false narrative; these are not fucking conservatives..these are rich kids who have been indoctrinated by mommy and daddy..seriously if you want a real liberal vs conservative debate you can create one, not hard to filter out the rich folk who aren't really conservative simply greedy. Conservatives want to conserve the constitution and the values of the country; not simply just hold onto their money and be rich.

@BringFactsOrBackAwaySlow

5 жыл бұрын

@Shaft Canyoudigit That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Would love to see black conservatives vs. white liberals

@FutonJohn

3 жыл бұрын

💯 white liberals might get exposed for being racist tho

@MouthwashTyphoon

3 жыл бұрын

That would be hilarious

@Mike_E_DeShaman

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see people in sound proof phone booths so they cant talk over one another

@angiegarcia6354

3 жыл бұрын

I wish VICE would do that but they'd exposed themselves even more!

@ians489

3 жыл бұрын

White liberal: you guys are so oppressed Black conservatives: no were not White liberals: Yes you are! Black people are oppressed. Black conservatives: you think were oppressed just cause were black🤔 seems kinda racist😂

Dude, props to the host. He was super unbiased throughout and the questions were great. I wish the presidential debates were like that.

@planetvance

4 жыл бұрын

True. Refreshing from Vice.

@qcwestside4112

4 жыл бұрын

True.

@greased4493

4 жыл бұрын

True

@yukonfarnsworth1688

4 жыл бұрын

You aint never lied

@erwinhernandez8659

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah not like the Latino one the host was biased af

Would love to see this group come back together 4 years later

@AmericanCockroach954

Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely

@anthonymelendez949

Жыл бұрын

Well liberals pea brains once brainwashed is very very hard to change, I was a leftist years ago and found out the truth of how much the left lies and brainwashed me to be a victim of something I never experienced and never was

@randya103

Жыл бұрын

yes the one in all black, front row

@kennethlewis3881

Жыл бұрын

After the banning of black history from schools 😭😭

@cellular7881

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethlewis3881I’m sorry what when did this happen I’m still in school and all we learn about is black history especially during black history month.

Despite the more passionate parts of the debate, I found the entire video as wholesome and enlightening. Thank you. This is the best kind of videos I get from you guys.

Whatever your side, you've gotta give credit to Vice for airing both sides. I'm tired of echo chambers in most news/ social sites.

@zion9073

4 жыл бұрын

hitwill this!!

@PixelDoodles

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh the conservatives seemed like they had more time to talk and always talked over the others

@awesomecooly123

4 жыл бұрын

@@PixelDoodles Because most of the liberals (besides the gay dude top right) just said a few words and couldn't conclude and point or say anything worth while.

@anonymousanonymous-cl8nr

4 жыл бұрын

true

@thomasyoung5680

4 жыл бұрын

Just had mass killings in Texas and Ohio so some here still are delusional enough to think this president is good for this country he is a racist and used these types of comments to view his base and some of you can sit in a youtube forum and argue the greatness of DONALD TRUMP THIS IS CRAZY 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😩😩😫😩😩😩😩😡😡😡👮🏾‍♂️

Lady in overalls: “We’re not going there. We’re not going there.” The whole point of this video is to go there what the heck

@njdevils3009

4 жыл бұрын

Izzy C Democrats are always allowed to make ridiculous remarks and not defend their own views, Republicans are always forced to defend their views. This is especially true throughout the educational system which breeds that type of “we’re not going there” and “we’re not even going to have that discussion” shutdown on free speech that Democrats employ

@rolfelim7587

4 жыл бұрын

Leftist always say that when they don't have an argument to defend their point

@Ltpwnface

4 жыл бұрын

She’s a professional at getting triggered, just look at her facial expressions.

@Ltpwnface

4 жыл бұрын

Pope Pope She just doesn’t want her feelings hurt. I don’t see how you can have a productive discussion if you take everything to heart. 🤷‍♂️

@Ltpwnface

4 жыл бұрын

Pope Pope You’re just discrediting everything I say bc you think I’m trying to “dunk on liberals”. You can use your own comments as an example of what I mean. I hope you have a great day. :)

That was a perfect example of why we need more of these debates.

These are some of the most important videos available online in our time. To be able to see REAL people with varying perspectives, diverse backgrounds come together and be able to peacefully talk things out and find common ground is so refreshing compared to the bullshit mainstream media pushes out everyday. That millions of people around the world can view these discussions and see that YES it is OK to have different views and we can still treat each other respectfully has such a big impact it can't be understated.

@antoniohines6960

8 ай бұрын

There was maddd passive aggression in this lol

@Ww-nh9pl

7 ай бұрын

Great debate, but they were far from respectful towards one another. The shouting and over speaking one another will make it difficult for our youth to take seriously or learn from. Not a great example on how to conduct a debate that will have results or open minds but it’s definitely been entertaining. And one thing you can say is that they were all very passionate.

@trxpiin4727

5 ай бұрын

Yea until vice edits the video to support their narrative, I do admit they did a good job on this video but the Blair white Trans debate was horrendous and horrific to see the amount of edits and cuts to support the leftist Trans instead of it all being equal, tried to make Blair look so bad.

@zaldigr863

5 ай бұрын

@@antoniohines6960 100%. If you notice, most of these comments that are praising this 'discussion' are also on other Vice videos complaining about the same thing conseratives are doing on this panel (interrupting, laughing, yelling, etc) but because the liberals are doing it on the other video they have a problem with it. They are genuienly pathetic.

@zaldigr863

5 ай бұрын

@@trxpiin4727 ... how did they do a good job on this video lmao you are just saying that because it was the conservatives yelling this time and not the liberals. Literally nothing was said of value and no middle ground or any thoughtful conclusion came out of this discussion, but sure.

Black conservatives vs white liberals Let's see it Vice

@mauve9266

3 жыл бұрын

Now that would be interesting conversation 🤔

@FBI-yd6co

3 жыл бұрын

Majority of blacks are liberal, I would say half half

@hellohunter8583

3 жыл бұрын

KZread would remove it lmao

@penelopehighlander7379

3 жыл бұрын

God I can only imagine 😂😂😂

@444_gd

3 жыл бұрын

OMG PLEASE

Liberals and conservatives coming together to agree the woman in overalls had nothing of substance to contibute

@victorsimionato6563

4 жыл бұрын

Yessss XD

@kellyfans806

4 жыл бұрын

lmao right 😂😂😂

@RedRoseSeptember22

4 жыл бұрын

@lol lol I loved when the one dude called them "wokies" I'm gonna use that from now on lmao.

@krismartinez2685

4 жыл бұрын

@lol lol their*

@krismartinez2685

4 жыл бұрын

@lol lol the only response to the contents of your comment are that I completely agree, but I wanted to help your grammar out a bit there, hopefully you never make the mistake of using the wrong “their” again, grammar is important for credibility mate.

The two people are so aggressively condescending that everyone else's voices get small or non existent. The moderator should've enforced the rule of respectfully letting each person speak without dominating. Those two gave me so much anxiety, I wouldn't have been able to speak if I was on the panel. I can feel all the lost potential every time they get rude like that. This is otherwise an incredible debate. 💙 *That being said, having that kind of dominate personality is why they succeeded, those who don't have that can't override the same system.

@Kingofthenet2

5 ай бұрын

I agree 👏🏽

@thebearjewer

4 ай бұрын

which two?

This conversation needs to be revisited.

I like the host he kept a really unbiased attitude all throughout the interview. Props to him. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@caseyshaw7995

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Viceland is very left leaning

@jessicarener6543

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I'm glad Vice didnt censor this and make sure this didnt reach the public

@travismarshall3004

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Under appreciated part of this vid

@thetonycam3944

4 жыл бұрын

Rumor says he was tortured in the vice dungeons for not being biased towards the democrats.

@GeetarAdam

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'm sure he has his own opinions, but they were never obvious and he never let them determine the course of the conversation. Solid job!

This is what internet journalism is supposed to produce.

@negloblaxon7616

5 жыл бұрын

"White" owned corporations speaking for so-called "African Americans". You would.

@maxdeborde6772

5 жыл бұрын

@@negloblaxon7616 what

@thacoolest13

5 жыл бұрын

@@negloblaxon7616 "so-called African Americans?"

@helloman3676

5 жыл бұрын

Bunch of gay people talking about gays issue...whats new...NEXT

@ashersmith7666

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Negli Blaxon, are a rich white liberal?

This conversation needed to be like another hour longer at least, they were just getting started!

@mallorycarpinski1160

Жыл бұрын

Right? This is supposed to be the extended version but it's only 40 minutes. They usually sit here debating for hours.

The woman in the front was OBNOXIOUS. Screaming and clapping and cackling over people when they were trying to speak.

I love that the extended interview has a million more views than the short one. People want depth - not click bait!

@ClarkSarita200

4 жыл бұрын

Left2Center EXACTLY

@daaaark

4 жыл бұрын

Left2Center FACTS; well said brotha

The girl with the overalls and blonde hair ain’t doing nothing but making faces

@krystingrant6292

4 жыл бұрын

💯🤣

@regigigachad6356

4 жыл бұрын

So true. She kinda seem dumb tbh. 😂

@sobersith1849

4 жыл бұрын

She represents most ignorant young leftists, Makes faces and has nothing to retort with when she is presented with a valid argument.

@ThaCorporate

4 жыл бұрын

she trash, brought no substance

@doomcriticalzx6554

4 жыл бұрын

Bambo Sunny you’re generalizing like shit boiiii

The woman in the middle had the most amazing views. She came from nothing and not only made something for herself, but also made everyone around her successful. She’s amazing ❤ I wish I could meet her and just listen to everything she has to say about everything she mentioned and more. She’s probably the coolest person I have seen online in a long time!

@the_son_of_man

Жыл бұрын

Yaaah that's the only women i see as a real black queen lol

@jjptech

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if she had to battle against some of the invisible wall the others were speaking about

@thedarkstar7045

Жыл бұрын

​@Elzarfi 1 For real. People always overuse the term "black queen" until it's someone who ACTUALLY put the work in to build themselves to a position of power before redistributing their power to benefit their people. She, is a queen. The only black queen I've ever seen properly represented.

@lesterjr315

Жыл бұрын

Okay Audrie 🙄

@lesterjr315

Жыл бұрын

Bunch of white people talking about “black queens”. Okay mark lmfao.

Loved this!! Such an amazing group of people! Would love for you to bring them back now and see if they’ve changed any views.

The host of this was just absolutely ridiculously good at being a host of this.

@melissamarcoe1681

4 жыл бұрын

right!!! I love how he didn’t take sides and didn’t get so emotionally involved

@tineez320

4 жыл бұрын

Melissa Marcoe Proper Debate program’s in schools would fix this.

@slyfox4564

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the video wasn't bias at all

@joeyglover3429

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously. The latinx one...not so much

@imaaveragegamer9609

4 жыл бұрын

Joey Glover that one was horrible

If you’re only tolerant when ppl agree with you, then you aren’t really tolerant at all.

@dylantrevorlinville1340

3 жыл бұрын

If you bash anyone of any Race because they aren't for your specific Party and independently think for themselves you are literally *The Oppressor, The Racist, and The Supremacist* no better than the KKK Had to extend it to be completely honest about the truth

@Prostopyotr

3 жыл бұрын

Factual

@thek1n678

3 жыл бұрын

Lets be honest this video the conservatives won but last video the liberals won so I guess it’s a tied series now😂

@thek1n678

3 жыл бұрын

But I like how at the end they all agreed on something.... something people in politics need to do more often.

@jpkclutch7780

3 жыл бұрын

💯

I didn’t think I would say this at the beginning of the video, but the conservatives made some good points. I’m a bit embarrassed for how unprepared the liberals were. They couldn’t even answer the first question the right way.

@IridessenceX

3 ай бұрын

I don’t think most of the “liberals” they culled for this interview were really prepared to take part in the conversation, probably because the ones who are, were busy doing more important things and have better things to do than to waste their energy on these interviews… interviews that, while well meaning, ultimately evolve into sensationalism

@nathanpyle3443

3 ай бұрын

Because the facts are much less important than how they emotionally feel at any given moment.

@MachoMan1123

2 ай бұрын

Conservatives often make good points, they are just smeared by leftist news channels or people. Hear it directly from the source, and it starts to make a lot more sense.

@josealexi5141

Ай бұрын

liberals are NEVER prepared

Refreshing. At so may levels. I usually have some ... "Issues" with you Vice discussions. But that one was great.

"Stop being a victim and be a victor" I love that line

@patricklincoln5942

4 жыл бұрын

It is a good line. Even as a democrat, I can appreciate it.

@timothyappleseed2986

4 жыл бұрын

The victim is the one who looks outside himself for a solution instead of looking within.

@user-mv9nu5sf1n

4 жыл бұрын

Ben Shapiro once sed "its noting to do whit race and everything to do whit culture "

@asgarddemasia3560

4 жыл бұрын

Mann i know that quote was strong

@bnyc2000

4 жыл бұрын

of course u do.

Veteran dude has the clearest skin I've ever seen in my life

@oobydoobytooby4430

4 жыл бұрын

jacob pipkin why because hes actually right??

@Boznaniac

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@Airman297

4 жыл бұрын

True.

@chefjoeyc

4 жыл бұрын

Right smooth asf

@prophetblood1

4 жыл бұрын

@@oobydoobytooby4430 i uh.... wtf you're obsessed with that shit dude.

Being black (and right leaning although I'm more a libertarian), the military (US Air Force) was the hands down GREATEST experience IN MY LIFE. I constantly try and get young men from my "hood" to just think about it. I don't push it, and I don't beat them over the head with it; I tell them, finish high school, and check a recruiter out, give it a shot maybe, it changed my life ten thousand times over, and if you're a young man and struggling, just walk down to a local recruiter. If you are rather intelligent, check out the Air Force. If you don't do well in tests or just feel like "yiu are smart enough" check out the army. Personally I will always say go Air Force, because unless you want to go to the desert, the AF will send you all over the world to amazing places, like German, Italy, and where I was for 5 years, Japan.

@amkrause2004

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@ilovewarw2

Жыл бұрын

You won’t get us now mr recruiter

@standowner6979

8 ай бұрын

Are you trying to recruit us!?

@queenaza2192

6 ай бұрын

Why are you right leaning? Why do you think younger black men need an escape like the military. Dig deeper.

@queenaza2192

6 ай бұрын

also no to mention the amount of veterans who are on the streets and majority people of color.

Great chat everyone 👏👏👏 good to see a healthy debate!

@Dude408f

Ай бұрын

Yelling all at the same time, not a good chat IMO

I am genuinely surprised to see something like this come from Vice. Edit: I guess everyone else is too

@eundoparkmusic

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously!

@gaijin_kings7108

5 жыл бұрын

Because they are finally noticing that conservatives can be entertaining and educational when proving liberals wrong. And we become the rising minority

@gaijin_kings7108

5 жыл бұрын

@RCP Pilot what do u mean they can't 😂😂 they just proved them wrong the whole time in every conversation. U need to rewatch that and we obviously are the minority. When u go outside how many trump supporters to u see in ur neighborhood. Not that many and nobody cares about what's really going on. They only care about their feelings and what they hear from friends or social media. So that's the majority for you their. Ignorant anti trump supporters who judge based by false provado. So yah were obviously the minority

@foolishkiwi4546

5 жыл бұрын

@RCP Pilot ' ' . Sorry I just noticed all that punctuation you forgot back at the house and wanted to bring it to you before it got lost.

@Squishydotcom

5 жыл бұрын

UnclePhilLawl keep up the good work vice !

Ok but can we give props to the moderator in this debate? He did an excellent job staying neutral in this video, I’m much more satisfied with his behavior with BOTH sides than the moderator in the Latino/Latina video!

@emmy7562

5 жыл бұрын

Erald Murati exactly! The Latina was so biased to the libs and let the conservatives get cut off by them too

@user-ro3qu3bx9f

5 жыл бұрын

NO TRUMP NO KKK NO FASCIST USA!!!!!

@ColinBurkeMusic

5 жыл бұрын

Erald Murati I’m totally with you good observation!

@TheCastowayne

5 жыл бұрын

I completely agree, the prior hosts bias was overwhelmingly apparent

@ebowden1168

5 жыл бұрын

True I hate vice, but this was a good moderator.

Gentleman on the top right with glasses, came with facts, life experience and common sense. “I don’t tell people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps I go out and buy them the damn boots”, love it

@SphincterOfDoom

5 ай бұрын

Except we see in Africa where the aid is actually undermining the ability for local businesses to thrive. Their perspective is not only myopic, but I would bet money he won't be putting his money for the boots, but calling for other people to pay for them.

@kca3346

4 ай бұрын

Dude seemed pretty hopeless and had little to no ideas on how to make things better.. He has no expectations of the government making anything better.

@HeyCutie90

2 ай бұрын

It’s a nice sentiment, but I prefer the party that doesn’t treat us like victims who need boots. We are all Americans born in one of the most privileged positions on Earth. Travel out of the US a bit, see what real oppression is like, ya’ll. Take responsibility for yourself. I was born into a poor single-parent household. We were homeless at times, we lived in apartments and trailers with no running water, and my mother did drugs. I had leukemia when I was a teen. Despite all that, I am more educated and make more money than my graphic designer husband who came from a middle class family in Mexico. No one wants to hear it’s a mindset because if you can’t blame other folks for your struggles then you have to face the fact that it really is up to you. That’s scary af if you’re weak, but it can also be empowering if you’re willing to work hard and never let yourself believe the system is against you. We’re Americans, the world is our oyster 🇺🇸🎉

@madadisr

2 ай бұрын

What are you talking about. He was just whining the entire time. Everybody is oppressing him.

@lacey6859

Ай бұрын

All he brought to the conversation was a victimhood mentatlity with no point on how to move forward or progress for change. We all have to choose the lesser of 2 evils.

As a white person, I think it’s super important to just listen to both sides without bias (as best as possible). I really enjoyed this video!

@wartortle577

8 ай бұрын

what does color have to do with anything

@kcarter142

8 ай бұрын

@@wartortle577 Read the first word in the video title. Not that hard to figure out.

@wartortle577

8 ай бұрын

@@kcarter142 That makes no sense. Yes this video is about specifically black people talking to each other but no way in shape or form does this have anything to do with white people. Especially factoring that into listenining to both sides.

@Mzee1084

6 ай бұрын

I listen to all sides, but I looked more into the evolution of the modern conservative movement cause I wanted to understand how their worldview developed as it seemed that so many times I got into political discussions with them they would reject science and what the evidence/data was showing. I find it to be based on a few things like needing to filter everything through their ideological lens of 'rugged individualism'; and lack of trust in government. The modern conservative movement focused a lot on dismantling trust in government so they can dismantle it so capitalists have more freedom to operate their businesses and not have to pay into a larger 'common good' through taxes. Now they don't even trust expertise in general unless it is filtered through the right wing ecosystem. That's what we saw with Covid and so much opposition to Dr. Fauchi. A healthy skepticism is fine, but the right wing ecosystem exploited it to make it go overboard, and then the base will only seem to listen to the right wing fake-experts. The right wing ecosystem also focused heavily on doubling down on divisions and making sure their base really, really hated their pollitical opposition so they wouldn't respect or trust them at all.

@tushar7748

5 ай бұрын

@@wartortle577stop being so insensitive

I’d like to see this group brought back every 5-10 years and see how their political beliefs grow and change throughout the years.

@will9579

2 жыл бұрын

That would be interesting

@roolenoir3183

2 жыл бұрын

That’s very logical.

@shannap.lawnerd8107

2 жыл бұрын

💯🎯👏🏽👏🏽

@alexj1530

2 жыл бұрын

There is always a rule, constantly being confirmed… until 18, if you are not a leftist, you don’t have a heart. After 18… you don’t have a brain…

@apmanda

2 жыл бұрын

That would be great!

“Stop playing victim and play victor” agreed

@RedRoseSeptember22

4 жыл бұрын

Amen!!!

@aaronpeck7926

4 жыл бұрын

Best line of the whole conversation

@Poetic_Justice1962

4 жыл бұрын

Child talk.

@aaronpeck7926

4 жыл бұрын

@@Poetic_Justice1962 how

@yangvideolibrary4116

4 жыл бұрын

Try the Yang Playlist Challenge. Watch my playlists without joining Yang Gang. Most of you won't even try, and those of you who do, will fail.

I always like going back to watch these older panels.

Very good video. This needs to get around more.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever lied, lusted sexually at the opposite sex, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

I'll say this, the interviewer did a great job.

@melanieanne5285

5 жыл бұрын

He did for sure

@MP-ue7ol

5 жыл бұрын

He really did. I always love to see discussions where the interviewer only intervenes when the discussion dies down or goes to far off topic.

@GnarlyBolt

5 жыл бұрын

Yes he did. He seems like a mature guy.

@Slm99

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know most of the video was two or three people shouting at each other.

@AMuffler

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. I would not be able to do that. He is so unbiased its insane.

THEY GAVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR. KUDOS

@rustyrober368

5 жыл бұрын

monique bedford lol I wanted to use the claps but I was on my laptop

@elias_xp95

5 жыл бұрын

In fairness, we shouldn't have had to ask. It's very suspect when a big media company edits a debate. Each sentence is important.

@RetrogradeBeats

5 жыл бұрын

stfu

@KanoTunes

5 жыл бұрын

a lot of people wanted the whole conversation unedited. is that what this is?

@brettmeans6993

5 жыл бұрын

No they didn't. We asked for the raw video, unedited. They gave us 20 more highly edited minutes of what was probably a two hour conversation.

This popped up on my feed today... I'd love to see this conversation with the same people today.

This is seriously one of the most informative and educational videos on youtube. I've said forever that cultures are not a monolith and this debate NAILS IT.

This. This right here. They may not agree, but they are engaged and actually talking to each other. If this country has any hope at all, we must have more of this. A lot more.

@mikearrera8672

4 жыл бұрын

If more people would just sit down and talk instead of playing trench warfare, we could get somewhere. We need more of this.

@SilentRiver00

4 жыл бұрын

I agree completely! It makes me so happy that there are so many comments from the last week or so, because it means other people are finding this at a time when it's so, so necessary.

@sloanefrances1189

4 жыл бұрын

A LOT MORE

@alwaysdrunk5461

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like the liberal blacks would‘ve snapped if the black conservative would‘ve been white.

@aliciaferdinandfields729

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

This guy needed to moderate the joe vs trump debate. He did amazing

@davidquintanilla9330

3 жыл бұрын

Truuu he really did

@Angry5Man

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. He was calm, he NEVER took a side nor did he come anywhere close to it. My only critique Is he could have been a bit more agressive with keeping the talking over to a minimum, but as someone who doesn’t know anything about that, that was beautiful

@nikkibush9097

3 жыл бұрын

Really TRUE

@outlawjones3957

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. He treaded the dangerous political and social waters extremely well.

@facetheboss1754

3 жыл бұрын

FACTS!!!

I couldn’t sit on this panel….props to these folks.

Guys, this is a super important video. Social media is anonymous people screaming at each other and not a debate. Its fantastic to get folks into a room and RESPECTFULLY listen to opposing viewpoints and atleast hear their opinions, even if you dont agree with the opinion. This is what will bring the country together. Social media is tearing the country apart.

When you look at yourself as a victim, you are already holding yourself back.

@stephanyhdz92

3 жыл бұрын

Real talk

@syclonez1579

3 жыл бұрын

Completely true

@tuxedosteve9556

3 жыл бұрын

They don’t believe in themselves

@mssburr

3 жыл бұрын

Yas!!

@seekingexcellence3236

3 жыл бұрын

Chad A lad that and it's an excuse not to push yourself to obtain what you want.

I like the moderator. Hes was truly neutral.

@BRENENHARRIS

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. Unlike the Hispanic / Latino debate. Ugh, so FRUSTRATING watching the narrator NOT be neutral. I hated that video

@sparcx86channel42

3 жыл бұрын

thats good he let people talk

@ianquyck9834

3 жыл бұрын

It’s rare to see such neutrality in debates like this nowadays. Props to the moderator

@MiroslawHorbal

3 жыл бұрын

Oh I dunno. He let the conservatives speak. And those views might hurt some peoples feelings. Feelings are real. So those words must be violence. Therefore, the moderator just allowed violence by letting the conservatives speak.

@joeldiaz141

3 жыл бұрын

@@MiroslawHorbal he let both sides speak. That's the point.

Wow very very impressed with these fine people having a healthy debate w/ strong opinions but at the end all smiled, laughed, took a pic together… some were open minded & not so stuff on one side, everyone respectful. Great jobs guys 👏👏👏

Thus was great. I wish more people could communicatelike this.

The dude is a better moderator than chris wallace

@warrencan4221

3 жыл бұрын

and there are 9 of them

@anonymousdude7982

3 жыл бұрын

Real fucking original comment...

@anonymousdude7982

3 жыл бұрын

@j.network323 446?

@smackedinthejaw

3 жыл бұрын

I think most people are. Wallace is bias as phuck.

@jwbland8375

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you are correct

Girl in the overalls gave absolutely nothing to the conversation except being offended. She wasn’t ready for this conversation

@ivi122

5 жыл бұрын

Cushla nope. She seemed clueless. So annoying

@renaldsunset

5 жыл бұрын

Cushla typical liberal millennial’s behavior. ‘’Triggered’’ and immature

@cclasso

4 жыл бұрын

She and the heavyset woman behind her offered next to nothing to the conversation.

@jimmieleepatterson

4 жыл бұрын

The whole debate was hijacked by the gay conservative and the financial consultant. Everyone at some point was talking over each other but those 2 kept interrupting more so than others.

@jimmieleepatterson

4 жыл бұрын

@@cclasso and the big dumb dude on the front left offered what exactly? I thought the ones you're claiming offered nothing but with the gay conservative and the "financial consultant" hijacking the most of the dialogue, were able to add some insight and actually agreed with some of the points the conservatives made. But that big dude raised his hand to conservative values and said next to nothing the whole time. One of the things I noticed with conservatives is that you guys either tune out things you don't agree with or deflect by changing the subject.

Would love to see a repeat talk of this group now based on what has happened in the last 4 years

Giving recognition to the mediator for being non-bias and neutral. That takes strength in a debate like this one.

Everyone shuts up when the dude on the top left in the suit talks 😂

@nolookpass7079

3 жыл бұрын

he's smart af. cool dude, even though i'm not gay. i would bring him around to pick up chicks.

@elizabethx1818

3 жыл бұрын

Well lowkey also because whenever George or the female on the very right spoke, the conservative in the middle in black and the guy in the suit would always interrupt. If you noticed, when the girl in the middle in black was speaking about her past/relations with felony and drug selling, no one interrupted her... for like 3 minutes. Same with the suit individual.

@aarontheruler

3 жыл бұрын

the reason for that was because he was composed and presented himself well. literally everything he spoke about could be debunked. a lot of people can feign intelligence and knowledge

@michaeldautry

3 жыл бұрын

What is the name of the ignorant dumb ass in the top left corner?

@magnitude2810

3 жыл бұрын

@@aarontheruler okay so debunk it😐 I’m pretty sure you’re completely wrong but go ahead and debunk it since you’re so sure.

The reporter here did an extremely good job being an unbiased moderator.

@Small_child_punter

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the video functioned better if he let the black voters bicker amongst themselves.

@robertmagill6005

3 жыл бұрын

It was surprising considering the video was put out by Vice.

@raymondoverton7717

3 жыл бұрын

Best moderator ever he should be the debate moderator in 2024.

@MaggotAddict21

3 жыл бұрын

FOR WHITE EUROPEANS ONLY: Watch Europa: The Last Battle and test your cognitive dissonance.

@marcuslarwa9098

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertmagill6005 oh yea same here

We needed this.

we need this same group back

The interviewer was great. He wasn’t biased and he let everyone speak and give their thoughts, we need more like him

@Burago2k

3 жыл бұрын

good luck lol, id find more diamonds than you people like him lol

@calumgibson8974

3 жыл бұрын

You say that, I noticed he let the liberals speak over the conservatives quite often. And right near the end the woman was making a point and then he shut her up and then let the liberal talk

@asia3815

3 жыл бұрын

@@calumgibson8974 i think ur lying now. he wasnt biased stfu

@dr.aabamamsphd1385

3 жыл бұрын

Well, not everybody. I felt so bad for the guy in the front row on the left. He acted like he had so much to say, but was to polite to raise his voice and shout anyone down. I'd really like to hear his story.

@travisbathory468

3 жыл бұрын

He let people talk over each other, that was my only issue with him.

“Stop playing victim and start playing victor” love it 🔥🔥🔥🔥

@Roddy425

3 жыл бұрын

What a quote

@chucknorrisjr829

3 жыл бұрын

Funny that the big successful black woman trump supporter is for welfare until it was no longer useful to her... Typical selfishness of Trump thumpers

@PIFF50

3 жыл бұрын

Chuck Norris Jr I don’t think that was the moral of the story bub... she got herself out of poverty... it’s a good thing More people should strive to do it

@chucknorrisjr829

3 жыл бұрын

@Barry Peterson except I never said bettering yourself is not a good thing. The fact remains, she went from social welfare to a contributor because of the welfare system that kept her from going homeless. That's how the system should work, so I don't know why she's trashing the system that helped her get to where she is today. "I got mine so let me shut the door behind me," hypocrisy at it's finest.

@chucknorrisjr829

3 жыл бұрын

@Barry Peterson I'm glad to hear you are pro social safety net, but I don't know who what people you are referring to living on welfare because as far as I know you can't collect welfare forever. Most programs don't work like that. She still shouldn't bash people who need it just because she's "made it," because she is an example of how the social safety net works.

This might be the most important video of our time.

This was so awesome to be able to just watch and listen. Smart people talking is always a positive experience.

Can we just talk about how great the moderator was in this whole discussion. So calm and composed on the reactions

@GarrettRSV4

5 жыл бұрын

I feel that was what made this video great, I was kinda skeptical going into this because it's a Vice thing, and they haven't necessarily been Pro-Trump, but the way this whole session was conducted was great and I loved every minute of it.

@nuance8530

5 жыл бұрын

I wish he would have reined in those 3 talkative conservatives that kept monopolizing the time and interjecting in the meager time the liberals used.

@subtleleaf1269

5 жыл бұрын

@@nuance8530 I think that he tried to a little bit but I think he didn't completely cut off anyone because he didn't want to come off as biased. So many kudos to him

Good on vice for showing both sides to an argument. This is what a healthy society is built on - civil discourse. We need to get away from one sided media reporting (on both sides) and bring back the public forum! It's like a family talking about their issues together. We should start seeing our country as a family because we are all living in the same one!

@spacecowboy1438

3 жыл бұрын

Try telling a BLM hate mob that Conner. I agree with you but those people openly calling for the fall of America probably won't.

@fashionforwardmom

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed with the healthy society being based on showing both sides but in politics it is never 2 sides and it is never a full discussion when it is only one race there are many sides and many races. What would be nice is to discuss politics as a whole instead of being racist and only letting one race put their opinion in. The title to this video says it all "Black Conservatives Debate Black Liberals " thsi is a racist video.

@jimborghini2761

3 жыл бұрын

@@spacecowboy1438 Dude said Trump got rich from big Pharma. He's a fucking real estate mogul.

@anwjuice

3 жыл бұрын

There is only once race Human race

@anwjuice

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimborghini2761 and honestly he inherited his wealth and anyone could make money off land in nyc

This was awesome!

I'm four ears late but that was beautiful thank you for this video, I vibed with a lot of the different perspectives, and that was amazing thank you thank you thank you

To be fair, the guy on the top left corner is a GREAT representative for the conservative side, and the guy on the top right corner is a GREAT representative for the liberal side. They are both intelligent and well aware of what they're speaking of, there has to be a video of just them two.

@1969wallflower

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@negloblaxon7616

5 жыл бұрын

LGBT>"Black"

@ramyfili1434

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty much agreed. The right guy had a bit more of a socialist leaning.

@proskateboy

5 жыл бұрын

It would be the two gays showing up with the best debate skills

@jod5986

5 жыл бұрын

Abigail S413 yea but the right conservative gay guy was better

“Need to stop playing victim and play vicTOR” love that line

@kirstenovergaard7752

4 жыл бұрын

can someone please tell me what time thats at

@scottyxscxrs5483

4 жыл бұрын

/thread

@nobilesnovushomo58

4 жыл бұрын

You call me a victim... maybe I am. I DO know if I don’t rise from my own merits, I’ll never be a victor in life.

@SomeLad12

4 жыл бұрын

Kirsten Overgaard some time after 25:30

@dransom5821

4 жыл бұрын

BUT it's okay when Whites play victim all day on FOX right?

Time for an updated version of this premise! Where you at NOW???

George is the only one that actually spoke about policy changes that make tangible differences.

"Why do we always assuming black people are broke" BOOM! Mic drop!

@stonekold10x

5 жыл бұрын

That was one of.my.favorite quotes

@spidergoose891

5 жыл бұрын

Because most are lazy

@bluekirb9360

5 жыл бұрын

Due to the high rates of poverty in the communities that is why now i'm not saying that there always broke im just stating facts that they are high in poverty

@christianthomas2564

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Dishneau excuse me thats far from true your ignorance shows

@lonerstance1530

5 жыл бұрын

CT Action live nah we are

Straight up, this needs to be a Netflix series.

@umbles7007

5 жыл бұрын

PLEASE

@corey9137

5 жыл бұрын

Netflix bias tho

@madelinerincon9628

5 жыл бұрын

There is a show kind of like this called “dear white people” but it’s mostly liberal

@fionaluki

5 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@StarbucksCoffey5280

5 жыл бұрын

@@madelinerincon9628 lmao no and im 2A as fuck

What an Awesome Group. So much interrupting, but it worked for this group. Yes, the conservative side had some louder people, and I'm glad the guy leading it did pause convo mostly enough to get good responses. Definitely so far a group though they disagree, do know that moving the needle is best and they are all there for it. Good group that stayed on topic.

@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever lied, lusted sexually at the opposite sex, disrespected parents, stolen, thought bad thoughts, hated someone, sinned sexually (fornication, Adultery …) etc All humans have sinned in thought, word or deed. Therefore, none of us are good and able to get into Heaven and will be justly judged and sent to eternity in Hell! But God out of His love sent his son Jesus (also God in Human flesh) to die on the cross for our sins and rise again from the dead (nobody can do that only God). Jesus said if you Repent of your sins and put your complete trust in Him for your salvation, you’ll have eternal life, given to you as a gift (this message is not to be ignored; seek God today). Your thoughts? John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

Bring all these people back now! Lets see where they are all at!

I could leave a political comment but I’d rather point out that everyone is wearing black boots

@planetvance

4 жыл бұрын

Are you sure? I couldn't see the footwear of the four in the back.

@peace7lovr

4 жыл бұрын

planetvance of those seen, bro

@therealding221

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I noticed that also. Weird coincidence.

@jackgunn1480

4 жыл бұрын

And they finished the thing by agreeing that they all want the same thing, they all want boots.

@mr.classified6167

4 жыл бұрын

Boots are the best

i could not tell at all whether the interviewer was left or right. well done interviewer!!! thank you.

Great discussion

very good discussion, I loved it

I like how they were slowly finding common ground as the video went on. It shows the benefits of having discussions instead of bullying each other over controversy.

@killercaos123

5 жыл бұрын

Both sides bully. They just do it in different ways.

@alanpage4075

5 жыл бұрын

Funny you should say that, I cut this video off halfway through because they were constantly talking past each other.

@Psykroids

5 жыл бұрын

Amen. We need to compromise to progress.

@Kegyetleneper

5 жыл бұрын

it wasn't really a discussion, 3 of them just screamed everytime they did not agree

@Psykroids

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kegyetleneper You have to admit it is still admirable to those who are open to still try to have a conversation.

Regardless of your opinion, credit to Vice for posting the whole (extended - good point - post the whole thing including the bloopers ey?) debate. More context means greater understanding.

@KanoTunes

5 жыл бұрын

this video is the whole debate? the title just says "extended version." this was still edited.

@johnmadara1252

5 жыл бұрын

i have to credit news stations for not editing everything out that goes against their agenda?

@MrSirOrb

5 жыл бұрын

@@KanoTunes Ah! True. Still an improvement, still worth commending. Often the whole filming can take hours, so some level of editing is acceptable in my opinion. However, you are totally right! Maybe they need a separate channel for raw footage?

@MrSirOrb

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnmadara1252 I think by definition of it being a debate they are already at least partly presenting ideas that are converse with there's, but yeah, why not credit it? If you felt they weren't doing it well before, celebrate them doing it better now. It'll help further your cause and costs you nothing.

@MrSirOrb

5 жыл бұрын

@NPC #92 Don't throw around virtue signalling too much - important term but if you slap it on to everything it doesn't ring as loud. Agreed that it isn't the full debate, but extended is better than compressed. Step in the right direction wouldn't you agree? Try and sprinkle some positive thoughts in there mate, not much use being a grump;) (joking - but still be positive).

I find the passion and vigor amazingly positive. No filtered media which is now corrupt. Battle on as long as you respect each other. Love it, love it, love it. My only comment at a high level do not let your past define you. Let your next steps shape your journey. In the end that is what defines you. Peace and Love to every person on the panel.

@scifirealism5943

10 ай бұрын

Beautiful

Very great debate!!

This interview is EXTREMELY insightful into the individualist vs collectivist mindset.

@imanilige8183

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, and it was nice to see more of an individualist view point. I would have more morerdate speakers on issues because it was a very loud speaker of the echo each side comes from with few meeting in the middle or thoughful reflection

@imanilige8183

5 жыл бұрын

@@jzolghadr what do you mean?

@TrueNorthPatriot

5 жыл бұрын

Give a man a fish vs. teach a man to fish for himself.

@CH-rt8qw

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrueNorthPatriot vs taking the fish and lying about it

@johnhodgdon2434

5 жыл бұрын

I can agree with that statement, it is wild, and it makes you wonder what causes that to develop in a person, is it nature or nurture, can we mold one or another in our children, or is it determined at birth, they definitely both have their advantages and disadvantages, if you are an individualist, you may be so into helping yourself you lack empathy or the ability to help or care to help others, but you can take responsibility for yourself and will most likely be more successful, on the other hand if you are a collectivist, than you lack the ability for any individual thought, which is dangerous because you follow the group, even if its over a cliff, however you definitely have safety in numbers, existential for sure, food for thought.

He was a really good interviewer. He asked the questions clearly, let them answer and discuss those answers, calmed them down when it got too heated, and stayed silent for they can talk. He was so good

@mochiisntbad6762

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed I was quite surprised that this even happened.

@Mike-no9zf

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he is great. What he wants is to create conversation and discussion, no edit and all that bs. Unlike other interviewers who ask tricky questions and try to trap their interviewees to make headline. They are the worst

This was amazing

Wonderful points

This is the first VICE video that hasn't made me want to throw my phone at the wall. Good job VICE.

@tonyt_mp4744

5 жыл бұрын

sensitive much?

@PusoSkateCo

5 жыл бұрын

maybe Disney sent some editors over

@vn3138

5 жыл бұрын

Tony T Vlogs vice is so terrible lmao is what he meant

@tonyt_mp4744

5 жыл бұрын

@@vn3138 sure

@fenrirskeane2420

5 жыл бұрын

Not sensitive at all. Just getting sick of people trying to sell lies as truth. And the arrogant disregard for stability and strength in exchange for political and moral posturing is both reckless and dangerous.

Speaking the loudest doesn’t make you right

@dariensampson7913

5 жыл бұрын

Facts do.

@hurdurr7466

5 жыл бұрын

The loudest always the “wrongest” lol

@dariensampson7913

5 жыл бұрын

@@hurdurr7466 by all accounts Winston Churchill and Abraham Lincoln spoke pretty loudly. Guess they were wrong.

@DrewsPools

5 жыл бұрын

Making great points make you right

@joshennn

5 жыл бұрын

@BEAST MODE she had some good points though

One of the most interesting debates ❤

Can we get an updated video of this conversation see if they still agree with answers now with everything that has happened over the last five years

the interviewer needs to be on a larger platform. he kept neutral and helped move the conversation. true professionalism.

@yautjacetanu

5 жыл бұрын

The interviewer was amazing. Maybe he should have been stronger at holding back some of the interruptions but it's hard because those were the most passionate bits. I have a low view of vice but this was amazing

@richardbolas

5 жыл бұрын

roro mad also had some nice waves lmao

@alphamoonman

5 жыл бұрын

One hell of an unbiased middleman keeping the peace. Absolute unit

@evan9759

5 жыл бұрын

It’s sad that we now have to point out proper journalism nowadays because it’s so rare 😒

@mlst3rg

5 жыл бұрын

he needs to break off and start his own show.

The moderator is absolutely doing a great job ...far less biased than the msm

@trailerwager8850

3 жыл бұрын

MS-NPC

@rantranger1527

3 жыл бұрын

@@trailerwager8850 Trailer wager DESTROYS Msm with FACTS AND REMOTE EXPLOSIVES

@trailerwager8850

3 жыл бұрын

@@rantranger1527 💥🤘💥

@blaquentgruppe6547

3 жыл бұрын

Give up this MsM ,TEDIOUS & BORING

@viccrown8188

3 жыл бұрын

Right, that was super surprising from Vice

Thanks,,, I've learned alot.

Amazing debate

“We need to stop play victim and start being victors.” Preach.

@bvggamer3707

4 жыл бұрын

And that includes confronting victimizers and demanding economic balance.

@bronwenable

4 жыл бұрын

@@bvggamer3707 Spoken like a victim. Breaking free of the hive mind is a victory.

@jasonmartinez7667

4 жыл бұрын

YESSSS

@bvggamer3707

4 жыл бұрын

@@bronwenable victims don't demand or confront. Your words are spoken like a true victimizer or token.

@lordmongo511

4 жыл бұрын

@S S you wrote too much dude.

A good "balanced" video from Vice? What is happening!? Am I in the upside down universe?

@WesternkindArt

5 жыл бұрын

JorgelShmorgel Hopefully they are getting back to the kind of work they used to do. They produced some quality content at one time and then went full SJW.

@dishingoutls8137

5 жыл бұрын

@@WesternkindArt liberals are just absolutely disgusting. They started and caused this whole sjw politically correct bs.

@erikstewart3892

5 жыл бұрын

Mercury is in retrograde alright.

@dishingoutls8137

5 жыл бұрын

@Kameron Baylor I never do that. Like never. But just seeing how the majority thinks and believes, seriously makes me disgusted of them. I have always been open to hearing everyone, but they're just a group with a very divisive mentality waiting to stir up trouble any chance they can get. To them everything is racist, bigoted, offensive, xenophobic, misogynistic, sexist, etc. You name it. Bunch of wackjobs. I rarely see terrible conservatives. Of course there are your bad apples, but I expect that from any group. I expect the left to have bad apples and I won't judge them for that, but when the majority of leftists have the same nazi like view? That's when there is a problem. I think what really made me disgusted by the left to the point of no return is just the amount of hypocrisy that spews out of their mouths. The easiest one Is how they call right wingers racist yet every other sentence that comes out of their mouths is about how bad white people are lol. Bunch of hypocrites. Or even their nazi like mentality. They just know how to race bait, gender bait, and form violent gangs. If you honestly think what I have said is wrong then I have no idea what to tell you. I'm a very fair person. If conservatives are bad I would say it, but don't go around trying to police me on what I'm doing is right or wrong. Go do your own research and see for yourself. I never ever put down anyone, unless they have seriously proved it to me that they have a very poisonous mentality.

@47shadows76

5 жыл бұрын

This was the Greatest upside to Trump's Election. Diverse Communities are now questioning collectivists Ideologies and thinking for themselves and openly challenging their own demographics. The World needs more of it, It seems God knew what he was doing when he elected the Orange Comedian.

They should revisit this discussion with the same people now, I can't imagine it would be the same debate, things have radically changed since.

@Z4NKA1

4 ай бұрын

why?

I will miss Vice. I don’t know what went wrong, but they really presented a broad array of tonics and from as many perspectives.

"I see 4 people here who aren't really black" - Joe Biden

@latrellewilliams5546

4 жыл бұрын

Lol!!

@jakepitner6357

4 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@terriemartinez9989

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣

@Paddy_PI

4 жыл бұрын

OMFG...best comment I've seen on anything in a long time! Laughed my @$$ off!

@sabihagokcen59

4 жыл бұрын

Underatted

This needs to be redone immediately with the same people. I wonder how their opinions have changed since then. Vice if you read this redo this right now.

@samseder

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@ladie27d

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@dreadpirateshup663

3 жыл бұрын

Very much so!

@FrenchysPlaysTV

3 жыл бұрын

I think they'd probably all think the same way.

@samseder

3 жыл бұрын

@@FrenchysPlaysTV fundamentally sure but I'd like to see their discourse now that we're post-election. I think it would be interesting to hear their answers to questions pertaining to election results, if voter/election fraud was effecting black areas, what a Biden presidency might look like for black communities, etc.

The conservative in the blue blazer and the conservative with the gold in her hair talking to each other whilst others were talking, talking over others, not letting them expand on their points after a few words and trying to steer the whole conversation were rage worthy. I wanted to hear more from the older female liberal and the male conservative beside her.

@Kingofthenet2

5 ай бұрын

I agree