I really miss the times when Doug would try any back seat, no matter how tight it was

@devin2156

6 ай бұрын

Me too. He would call us weird for wanting to see it and then do it. Good times.

@mxerb5912

6 ай бұрын

He makes too much money now to do it

@linehandibew6205

6 ай бұрын

He’s a typical sell out, too good for the back seat

@throwback19841

6 ай бұрын

@@linehandibew6205 he could at least bring one of the other two with him and make them do it. the largest one, preferably. what's the point of having employees?

@2JZDestroyer

6 ай бұрын

i think his back would eventually give if he kept doing that; i wanna see doug doing content well into my 70's and i'm 28 right now.@@throwback19841

Hey Doug, great video as always. To answer your question, that switch that you weren’t sure what it does is the selector to adjust the driver side or passenger side mirrors. You select which mirror you want to adjust and then use that mushroom to adjust the mirror.

@williamcarnero9595

6 ай бұрын

That makes perfect sense, doubt they would have electric one side and manual the other

@RAXITH_playz

6 ай бұрын

Ohh take my reply so that your comment can noticeable

@theoxster

6 ай бұрын

@@williamcarnero9595 Was actually common practice from the time for the passenger mirror to be manual. Some cars the passenger mirror was an option.

@andrewsanchez2778

6 ай бұрын

Ditto the selector switch.

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

6 ай бұрын

Doug the type of guy to break the passenger side mirror trying to adjust it manually.

Honestly, I miss when Doug gave his Doug Score out with his specific reasons for each category. It just helped justify his opinions.

@swordain

6 ай бұрын

There is a reason why he doesn't do it that way now. Cause most people didn't watch him giving reasons and directly watched the score.

@truthserum5310

6 ай бұрын

Me too. Bring it back Doug!

@Catchingcars

6 ай бұрын

most of us do

@wisanikenny5097

6 ай бұрын

Yep, I miss that too.....

@justin________7477

6 ай бұрын

That's their problem

Doug, you missed a quirk! There is a switch under the instrument gauges that you couldn’t figure out allows you to adjust either the driver or passenger’s mirror.

@thereissomecoolstuff

6 ай бұрын

He’s losing it. Doesn’t know his quirk from ABS.

@Craaaaabs

6 ай бұрын

Came to the comments section to post this 😂

@alexroberts1801

6 ай бұрын

You beat me to it

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

6 ай бұрын

Doug the type of guy to break the passenger side mirror trying to force it manually.

@nicolasgoncalves1557

6 ай бұрын

I was wondering about that, doug said only the driver side mirror is power adjustable, but that would be useless, right? I mean, only the easily reachable mirror would be powered, and you'd have to reach for the passenger side to adjust the other. Thanks for clearing the confusion

7 for styling??? Respectfully, you buggin Doug. This is one of the most beautiful physical objects conceived by mankind

@tedschmitt178

2 ай бұрын

Beautifully AND timeless.

@ryangrossklaus4838

2 ай бұрын

💯on the styling; when function trumped form.

@djkjthe3rd185

Ай бұрын

Nah Porsche buggin... beetle copy 😂

@lehbeltman

Ай бұрын

The whale tail was it. Still love it today.

@blackframes5658

28 күн бұрын

the most beatiful thing i have ever seen in my life. Litteraly. Like the most beatiful girl i ever seen is nothing compared to this

The central switch for the heater controls the amount of air blown over the engine. It heats the car really nicely.

@travis3810

6 ай бұрын

Can confirm. Setting it to "1" will make you start sweating on a cold day, so I can't imagine setting it to 5 or above

@savethechildren287

6 ай бұрын

Makes me wonder if an air-cooled 911 as this could ever have engine overheating issues as a result.

@alexroberts1801

6 ай бұрын

@@savethechildren287 no if anything it would cool the engine as its taking heat off of it, it uses the engine heat instead of a heater element. Plus generally you are only using the heater on a cold day anyways. Run mine on 35 degrees C days in traffic and it's fine. (Obviously with the heater off on those days :-)

@savethechildren287

6 ай бұрын

@@alexroberts1801 Ah that makes sense. Beautiful cars, enjoy your fine motoring sir :-)

@markwood7045

4 ай бұрын

Not the place for this content buddy @@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1

The "unknown" switch is to switch sides to control the mirror with the "mushroom" button.

@dbw477

6 ай бұрын

Doug giving wrong info that the passenger side mirror was manual. Tisk tisk.

@jonathanandreoni60

6 ай бұрын

Doug should pin this comment

@ScrubRadius

6 ай бұрын

Came here to say that. As much time as I’m sure Doug has spent in Porsches, you’d think he’d know this stuff. A covered binnacle in the door? My modern 997 has exactly the same thing.

@JoeEngineer

6 ай бұрын

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.

@althejazzman

6 ай бұрын

I thought the same. I have a 924 Turbo with the same mirrors and switches (albeit in different locations) and manual mirrors are really rare so it's unlikely the car had one of each.

Some other minor quirks on these 911's is that many of the parts do go back to 1964 and once in a while when ordering I see a "901" part number prefix. The fuse panel in the front trunk and engine compartment are right out of the 60's and use the old torpedo fuses. The glove box light is not visible and most owners don't know it's a rocker switch as well and can be turned off. It's usually out of scope for these videos, but just how the air cooling works is interesting with baffles around the cylinders to direct air to the heads The dry sump oiling is pressure regulated and routed through a thermostat to a large engine mounted oil cooler then once that heated up there's another thermostatically controlled oil cooler up front. Amazing. All of the old air cooled engines are designed to be race ready from the factory.

My dad had a brand new white factory 930 slant nose turbo in 89. First thing he did was take it to Andial in Orange County CA and had it modded. Twin turbos, larger intercooler, new exhaust and a tune. He swore that car would lift the front end shifting from 1st to 2nd gear. Was a beast.

@Mac10Daddy

6 ай бұрын

That’s a unicorn right there! I remember seeing a few of those in DuPont Registry’s throughout the years

@thegolfingmusician6345

6 ай бұрын

I always wondered where that car ended up. My dad was also friends with Bruce Canepa. Talk about a guy with unicorns.

@rustler08

6 ай бұрын

This is from the same generation that had 16 second quarter mile cars and they swear they ran 9s.

@thegolfingmusician6345

6 ай бұрын

Yeah well my dad was a professional drag racer so if he swears the front end came off the ground then I have a tendancy to believe him.

@unclebob4964

6 ай бұрын

Anytime you begin a retort with “Yeah well….” you just lost !

7:24 The power mirror switch for the passenger side is right above the ignition switch. It's not manual...

Doug is the kind of guy who stores a glove collection his glovebox.

@sayeedalsifat1308

6 ай бұрын

isn't that what is it is supposed to be used for?

@rickjames6867

6 ай бұрын

Doug has a glove box collection for his glove collection. Doug is wealthy. Doug has a matching pair of driving gloves for different cars. How ironic. Doug is the type of guy to make millions on KZread and does whatever he wants with his life. 💙✌️

@paulie-Gualtieri.

6 ай бұрын

No Doug keeps hand sanitiser and blue face masks in his glovebox

@lipstick_attack

6 ай бұрын

“The glove compartment isn’t accurately named and everybody knows it” - Ben Gibbard

@purwantiallan5089

6 ай бұрын

​@@paulie-Gualtieri.well using hand sanitizers can be also vital on keeping anything that we touched clean.

I had the chance to drive a 930 Turbo. It was a 1979 model, black with tan interior, with the 4 speed manual and 260 HP, if I remember correctly. My brother bought it with a friend - each one paid half for it. I’ll never forget the sensation when the turbo kicks in. It was marvelous, even for an old car like that. I wish I could do it again, but my brother sold his share for his friend and he sold the car right before the pandemic. Pitty. I really loved it - specially because I wasn’t responsible for any maintenance costs - not that it broke a lot, it never had any serious problems. But I could just borrowed it and drive it around, you know 😊 For a guy that drives a Honda Fit, that was car heaven on Earth 😂

My favorite all-time car. I had an opportunity to get an '80 (in the early aughts) for $8000, but I felt like I couldn't justify owning a car like that living in the Northeast without a garage. When I finally had a garage to put something like that in, they are just completely unaffordable :(

@K1ng1995

6 ай бұрын

Ah we live and learn

@gigachad6162

6 ай бұрын

Lmao this one on cars and bids only has a 20,000 dollar bid. I saw a 1988 one that had 40,000 miles sell for 200k. The actual cars worth is only 20k, whoever is spending 200k on a crappy air cooled Porsche is a moron.

@HoolaaBaaloo

6 ай бұрын

You better have bought that car, then justify to buy a home with a garage to put the car into lol

@kiefershanks4172

6 ай бұрын

You made the right choice. It wouldn't be right to buy something like this only to have it sit outside in the elements. That shows some real respect and maturity to pass on a dream car because you know you can't properly care for it.

@981porsche3

6 ай бұрын

Rent a storage unit. That’s what I did until I had a place with a garage.

When people say "Porsche", this is what pops into my head. Absolute classic. Now wonder LEGO chose that model in that color to immortalize as both a Speed Champion and a larger Icons set!

love the design of these 1980's era Porsches, they are among those few cars that always look timelessly cool

I believe the passenger side mirror is also adjustable using the same side mirror stock. There is a toggle switch just above the key when switched to the right allows the same stick to adjust the right side mirror

@walthefl

6 ай бұрын

That must be the button where he didn’t know what it does

@amg2rs236

6 ай бұрын

Correct jimmy!!

@C.I...

6 ай бұрын

stalk.

@ralleyquattro

5 ай бұрын

Yep, looking into owners manual would show him what it does.

I have owned and club raced 930’s back in the day. I know everything about the 911’s and still own many. Rocker switch under gauge cluster is for side mirror adjustment. Climate control between the seats is the temperature of the heat. The 911 had TJe worst and most complex climate adjustments because it was air cooled. The air conditioning barely was adequate when it did work. The heat on the other hand would roast your feet because it would pump in hot air from the engine. A sunroof and windows were mandatory for real ventilation. The rotary door lock was a primitive antitheft concept. No coat hangers pulling up lock or unlatching the door. Power output wasn’t as dramatic between the 3.2l Carrera engine of the mid/late 80’s compared to the Turbo 3.3L. 230hp for a 1988 Carrera and 280hp for a Turbo BUT the Carrera was lighter weight and more torque down low. The rear Carrera spoiler was the “ whale tail” and the Turbo’s more boxy spoiler was called the “tea tray”. The back seats of a 911 are there for giving ladies a ride home and they fit just fine for the women you would probably wanting to pick up. This has always been the 911 single man owners hidden advantage.🤫. 911’s in general are very reliable cars for their class of vehicle but the 80’s 911 are unbelievably reliable and cheap to own.

Doug - the unlabeled button switches which side of the electric mirror adjustment you are controlling with the joystick on the door. Yes, both mirrors are electrically adjustable, and yes, that’s the least intuitive mirror adjustment I have ever seen on any car. Also even though you can lift the engine lid without lifting the rear wiper first it’s not recommended since it may damage the gears in the wiper motor. I have been lucky to have owned this car for over a year and there are still quirks I can’t figure out.

While everyone else is explaining to Doug about the passenger side mirror switch, I'm still thinking about that heat/defrost control between the seats... I'm guessing it had something to do with the fact the 911 was air-cooled and lacking a traditional heater core, heat was taken directly from the engine exhaust like on old VWs so maybe that switch somehow regulates how much heat the regular dashboard climate controls have at their disposal? Or maybe there's some other purpose behind the seemingly redundant switch? Anyone in the know, feel free to comment below!

@cmkrcs1

6 ай бұрын

I was wondering if it's the rear defroster control

@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785

6 ай бұрын

​@@cmkrcs1 yeah, I thought about that too, by ruled it out since it has electric elements in the window for defrosting, and I doubt it has rear climate controls for the tiny back seats, LoL! But maybe it has both electric and air vented rear defrost? With German engineering, who knows? 🤷

@mufflertech

6 ай бұрын

It turns the heat on, the dash control directs the air

@mtbbiker6401

6 ай бұрын

My VW bugs had something similar between the seats to allow hot air from the engine into the passenger compartment. Hopefully you didn't have an exhaust leak at the headers! 😀

@diplomacy2000

6 ай бұрын

It's the auto heat. There's a sensor in the dash.

Doug the kind of guy who breaks into a car to count the amount of USB ports and cupholders.

@ikahn17

6 ай бұрын

THIS is not what it looks like officer

@jwalster9412

6 ай бұрын

Doug is the type of guy to review a car he just totaled on a telephone post.

@rickjames6867

6 ай бұрын

No. He has cars offered to him. Does this on video then posts on his channel so people like you like subscribe, and post ironic "DOUG" comments.

@kychristell1779

6 ай бұрын

I can see it

@adorablecenturion8436

6 ай бұрын

Yeah I'd do it too tbh

Kudos to Porsche for offering that retro look updated radio!

@user-pn3im5sm7k

6 ай бұрын

tasteful indeed, nothing irks me more than people jamming cheap chinese head units into classic cars at their local mexican owned audio shacks. Ruins the experience of a classic car.

@snazzy

6 ай бұрын

@@user-pn3im5sm7kNot racist enough-try harder.

@Gordanovich02

6 ай бұрын

It's a great idea.

@Poatan.chama.

6 ай бұрын

They also sell modern touch screens for 996 and 997 models.

@MH-ev3wr

6 ай бұрын

Meh - it's over $1000. I'd rather keep my original radio and just not listen to it because why? You have a symphony behind you already.

Only Porche I've ever driven was THIS. Same color and everything. There was a cool S turn getting on the bridge to Daytona Beach from the main land and down shifting through that is a forever sensation I'll never forget.

My father was the sales manager of a Porsche dealership when the first 930 Turbos arrived in the U.S.. I was only 13, but he taught me how to drive a manual transmission in a brand-new 930 that belonged to the dealership.

Could close the fuel door from the driver's seat in my Z32 300ZX Turbos, too. It was right behind the driver's door...if you need to, just reach out and slap it shut. 👍

From what I've seen, the whale-tale spoiler looked the way it did to accommodate the turbo's intercooler and not for excessive 80s style, especially since the 1975 turbos had the same spoiler.

@legitmilkman98

6 ай бұрын

Correct, the original pre-intercooler spoiler was the whale tail version. In the late 70s when they added the intercooler on top of the engine they had to change the spoiler to the "Tea Tray" version that this one has.

That switch allows you to change between driver and passenger mirrors with your "mushroom button" adjuster thingy.

Im in love with Porsche, I just cant stress enough how mezmerized I am with their designs, it is a brand that managed to create a design so perfect that whenever you ser those siluettes and curvy body you already know it's a porsche, the years pass and even though they manage to polish and update the design, its escence is still in, what a perfect car the Porsche 911 are, totally in love, thanks for bringing this video to us Doug.

9:45 That switch most likely let's you control the passenger side mirror. You use the same "mushroom" controller located on the driver's door.

I've personally been waiting YEARS for this review from you! SO happy you held out for the good one. This is such a cool car

The later "tacked on" interior-mounted third brake light was certainly better than Porsche's "E.T. head" on the engine cover first attempt. 😉

@stefanmarraccini8646

6 ай бұрын

I despised that thing.

@stefanmarraccini8646

6 ай бұрын

It was like a dangling tumor or something to me.

This is the generation of Porsche that I like. I still remember reading my Dad's VW & Porsche magazines through the 80s into the 90s and loving these cars.

Being born in 1980, this is peak dream car stuff for me. I had an RC car of this as a child as well as a poster in my wall. What a sweet ride.

Doug the kind of guy who puts speed holes in the hood of his neighbors car.

@andrewmesser1955

6 ай бұрын

No

I'm not a Porsche person.... But the 930 was amazing--the GOAT of road cars.

@Greippi10

6 ай бұрын

Same. It has one of the most iconic shapes in the history of cars too! Would definitely buy one over a modern Porsche if I was rich.

@AhBeeDoi

6 ай бұрын

Until you got behind the wheel and drove it.

@Andriig75

6 ай бұрын

@@AhBeeDoi and? Go on....

@bwofficial1776

6 ай бұрын

@@AhBeeDoi At which point it proved how good it was. Fast and handled well once you got a feel for the chassis and engine.

Growing up in the eighties my Dad had a 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury with a 440 and was good friends with one of the managers of the local Porsche dealer. They would bring over every new Porsche that came out and try to race my Dad. The old Plymouth beat every Porsche that came out back then, this Turbo doing the best. Great memories and thanks for bringing them back up!

UK specification 930s developed 330 bhp. They were also a bit, er, lively suspension wise. Thanks to their popularity with yuppies, and several of said yuppies coming to grief in unpleasant ways when cornering in these cars, the "Widowmaker" nickname was earned quickly here. 330 bhp, combined with the weight being BEHIND the rear axle, along with turbo lag that went from "meh" to "1 megaton" in an instant, meant that it was a handful even for skilled professionals. I've described this as a car you bought to teach yourself *restraint* for that reason. Spend a decade learning how to handle one of these *properly* and you'll learn valuable lessons that will serve you well in more forgiving cars. But *always* be aware that it doesn't suffer fools gladly, and will bite *HARD* if provoked carelessly. You only have to experience that tail snap out once to end up with white hair 30 years before your time. Find out about this in a safe place such as a hired racetrack, NOT on a back country lane with convenient trees to wrap yourself around. Get it right, and this car makes you feel like a hero. Get it wrong, it's pine box time. The dividing line between the two is fine. Viewers will notice Doug didn't fool around with it, and that's because he's suitably fond of being alive. Pay due attention to this.

@Gordanovich02

6 ай бұрын

I was just thinking that 280hp sounded a bit low. I guess that's American emissions regs strangling the power.

@wingtang1180

6 ай бұрын

Dealers couldn't sell these 930's. We test drove one on their request and handed it back to the salesguy after a couple minutes driving down the street. It sucked.

My dream car since I saw it on the Cyberpunk 2077 game, that car made me obsessed with Porsche.

My high school friend visited Germany in the early 1980s and purchased a Red 1975 930 (first year) with serial # 00017. That was a fun car. The very early 930s were 3.0 liter engine. Later grew to 3.3, like the car Doug was showing here.

@1wide9111

3 ай бұрын

I have #13

@kurtcocktoasten4592

3 ай бұрын

Outstanding! While I don't currently own any 911, I do own the 1st 1968 GTO convertible ever made - body #001. Cars are neat@@1wide9111

This is the ultimate sports car of all time! There is nothing better than a vintage Porsche 911...

@thejoshman3843

6 ай бұрын

agreed.

@tomi8198

6 ай бұрын

facts

@Jallu555

6 ай бұрын

Rsr? Mclaren f1?

@jackkenny4194

6 ай бұрын

@@Jallu555 oh you mean the multi million dollar f1?

@Jallu555

6 ай бұрын

@@jackkenny4194 He said "There is nothing better" Money or price was never mentioned there

300hp, not 280. Tea tray, not whale tale. You're supposed to lift the wiper before opening the lid. The passenger side mirror is actually electrically adjustable; there's a switch that controls which mirror is adjusted via the "mushroom." It's above and to the right of the key at 7:49--the one you couldn't figure out. The center rotary dial turns on the auto heat, not the "defroster;" the last setting is the defroster. The red slider in the dash controls only the direction of the heat, doesn't turn it on or off. There's also a climate vent along the back of the dash. Car will accelerate to 60 in under 4 seconds by losing the cat, upgrading the Turbo, less restrictive exhaust, 1 bar spring, and bigger intercooler. That puts in on par with a modern sport classic. It's much faster than you're making it seem.

@marcusjosefsson4998

6 ай бұрын

It was 282 hp/210 kW in the U.S. for the intercooled 3.3 in 1989, and 325 hp/342 kW in Europe. Also U.S. horsepower figures differ a bit from European figures. So 325 hp (U.S.) equals 330 PS (European). Tea tray is the first rear spoiler, whale tail the second with the intercooler. This 930 has the tea tray, but it's often called whale tail anyways.

@diplomacy2000

6 ай бұрын

@@marcusjosefsson4998 says Wikipedia? What's your source? I say 300 for the 3.3 in 1989.

Would love to see Doug do a review for a Ruf "Yellowbird". I know he knows where to find an owner of one (there is a video of him hosting a drag race between it and the F40). Hopefully we get to see it sooner rather than later.

Widow maker because people would get on it in a corner, turbo kicks in, car starts going too fast and the driver would quickly lift off the gas. This dramatically unweights the rear tires and because you are turning, the back end starts to come around.

love the 80's-90's turbo cars! I think people that have not driven them don't understand, they have moments-of-pull that are harder than they same 0-60 thats an N/A has. The turbo has to make up for the lag, low end off the line, so when the boost hits full the turbo cars pull harder then the n/a cars. ie. 1989 shelby daytona vs 5.0 stang, same 0-60 but the dodge pulls harder

Matching color rims and blue interior is so 80s and boss

I absolutely love Porsche's stereo resto-mods. They look so clean and it's so lovely to be able to have OEM Nav or even Carplay in a classic 911.

I actually really like this steering wheel design. My 928 has this version and im glad i ended uo with this style. Its a subjective thing but i like it as Its quirky and fun

@777jones

6 ай бұрын

And it is the 959 wheel style. Agreed it is my favorite

That, the stuff of dreams! A friend drove one to our refinery job for a few years. I’ll never forget the few rides in it! Doug, thanks for sharing this!

My dad had a friend who had one of these, let me drive them both around town one day when I was 18. Besides that very awkward clutch, which I thankfully never stalled, I adored it

I love this generation 930/911 turbo. Doug D forgot to mention that these 911's suffered from what some people called "Lift throttle over steer". Too many people were braking mid-corner. You kind of have to drive these like a front wheel drive car. Braking at the end of the straights, and then keep your foot planted in the corners. I've been very blessed to ride in a few 911's of this era. There's nothing like them. I have a uncle in Santa Barbra California who has a 68' 911 targa in blue with a 73' engine. Thankfully I've had the privilege to ride in it a few times back in the late 80's. I love the flat 6 engine sound. Thank you.

@3.2Carrera

6 ай бұрын

That driving technique is still needed, but by the time '89 rolled around the car has all the pieces in place to keep the car on the road. Wider wheels, larger torsion bars, larger anti roll bars, etc. The last weak issue was the tire compounds of yesteryear with modern ones really taming the rest of the beat. A lot of 911 owners will only have the long hoods like your Uncle just because with the narrow tires and light weight they are more frisky than the later ones that are heavier and more buttoned down.

@papa_pt

6 ай бұрын

thought it was the opposite of a fwd car. Plus your description of braking at the end of straights and powering through corners is nearly all cars 😂 But you are correct that lifting off or braking mid corner to make adjustments is WAY sketcher in an old Porsche than nearly all front engined cars

Doug, I think you missed two important features that no other car has. The air cooled sound is so unique. Also the front trunk is an impromptu bed.

Such a cool car. For sure one of the cars I used to look for in magazine articles. I remember reading about all the pros and cons and arguing with friends about what cars would win or lose in a race. Fun memories.

Unlabled switch indicates which mirror is getting adjusted by the mushroom... Both mirrors are power, that switch allows you to pick which ur adjusting.

9:59, in other 911 models, there would be a series of levers that would open/close heating vents to let hot air into the cabin. That knob made the process more automatic/convenient. MotorWeek detailed this in their 1988 911 review: kzread.info/dash/bejne/no2l2Lp-ktHQdLw.html

My dad had a new 930 Turbo. I remember sitting in the back seats when I was a kid. 🙂 I still love that Porsche and it is my favorite car of all time.

Love how the fuel door release pull is very similar to the various knobs on my dad's 1971 VW Squareback station wagon. The fuel door was very similar as well, though on the passenger side on the Squareback, but I think the release was just a free hanging knob under the dashboard on a rubberized rope. This is clearly more high end...

immediately one of my favs. Been waiting for this video

the widowmaker

One of my favorite cars.

My family friend (who owns a few dealerships near Doug) has a road legal 935, that started life as a 930. Absolutely insane car!

Doug, the left/right switch underneath the guages that you can't figure out what it does, is the side mirror selector switch. So when you want to adjust the side mirrors, you push it left for driver side and right for passenger side, then you adjust with the 360° oscillating switch ('mushroom', as you called it). You said you can't do the passenger side mirror, that you have to do it manually. This is how you select between both mirrors tobadjust.

I wonder if he talks like that in real life?

I miss when Doug would actually try to get into the backseats

This is my all time favorite sports car. The first car I fell in love with when I was a kid in the 80’s.

The tale of the ignition being on the left because of LeMans is actually wrong. The ignition key being on the left comes from the post war copper shortage, since the wiring harness is on the left and all the electronics attached to the firewall. This saved precious copper back then when they made the Porsche 356. Source: Dr. Porsche (Porsche Museum confirms this).

I've enjoyed your reviews for a number of years and appreciate your willingness to quantify the attributes of each model you drive. I know these are subjective measurements, but I think you missed the boat on a couple of categories for this car. First, "Cool Factor". 6? Come on, this and the Testarossa were on more teenage gearheads bedroom walls than any other cars of the era, and now you're driving a beautiful example of it on the road 34 years later. It's at least an 8. Second, you go on about the quality of the car compared to others of the time and give it another, decent, 6. It's gotta' be a 7 at minimum. Otherwise, I'm good with the rest of your scores. Oh, and to the guy who commented on "994" being the internal designation of the 964 turbo--it's actually 965 (and there's some controversy on that).

@Majko420

6 ай бұрын

He's being sarcastic. He's done this type of banter for ages.There are videos where he for example praises the W126 or W140 for being like a contemporary rolls royce. Just to give it a 6/10 for comfort right after that quote 😂😂. I'm shocked that you haven't noticed yet, after all these years.

0/10 Doug didn't climb into the back seat

Being around a 930 made me realize how great the 964 3.6 Turbo is. Bad manners mostly gone plus more power and still a classic body shell and interior. The 930 is such a legend and has enough of an edge that you have to respect 250hp.

@vuckomrakic3760

6 ай бұрын

My uncle has one in perfect condition. We live in Serbia, so it's really rare here in this part of Europe, which is south-east ( Balkan peninsula ). I swear Porsche will never build a car with such a quality, to lasts decades and decades, like they did with this Porsche.

Rear spoiler on the Turbo is called a Tea tray. Gives more room for the intercooler. Non turbo Carrera had the whale tail. Slight difference in shape, flattens out on the sides.

Doug's review of the 930 is the thing I never realized I was waiting my whole life for.

@3.2Carrera

6 ай бұрын

Awesome cars. There's a Carrera 3.2 M491 option that has the wide body and non turbo engine that is a bit less. The power gap can be closed a bit on an engine rebuild.

doug is the kind of guy to be that kind of guy

The 930 even made a truck in the Background evaporate @4:43 😊

Been watching your stuff for a long long time. Excellent place to look at the equivalent of a vehicle from a game or other dream car. I'm sure you have reviewed it. And now the 911. Thank you for this one.😊

The Widowmaker

I've been waiting for this review. I grew up in a 85 Turbo going to school every day with my dad. Love it.

I have been waiting for this one for literal years. The 930 and the 964 are by far my favorite cars of all time. Maybe one day I will get to die in one of them just as our Ancestors did. Widow maker.

The rearwing on the 3.3 Turbo like the one in the video is NOT a Whaletail, but a Teatray. The whaletail was used on the early 3.0 Turbo without intercooler. That spoiler is way sleeker....

@dougdemuro 8:08 The Le Mans origin story of the ignition key being on the left side is actually a myth. The reason for placement is a relic of the postwar period during which Porsche sought to cut costs - less wire, less money spent. Dan Neil of the WSJ has a solid article on this. Obviously Porsche has zero interest in changing peoples minds about the Le Mans association as it no doubt sells would-be customers on their “racing history” 😅

@ase2060

6 ай бұрын

Makes since, as you could leave trans in gear.

Mirror control switch to adjust the passenger side could be located under the dash next to the sun roof switch. At least that is where it is on my 964.

Great car. Gorgeous! You don't drive them because they have performance or precision. You drive them because they give you emotions. It's amazing how many parts are the same on my 944: seats, mirrors, steering wheel, some of the buttons, and many others not visible. Grat gorgeous car.

Harry Metcalf, the champion of life, has a 930, Testarossa and Countach in his many car garage, all red. The perfect trio.

Notification squad 🙂

@roddydykes7053

6 ай бұрын

👏

@nitishgoel3969

6 ай бұрын

Tell me you don’t have a life without telling me you don’t have a life

@jimjoglung

6 ай бұрын

Serious concern for flatwanni-probably dead right now, or still just embarrassed from getting PWNED for over a month! LMAPPOOOO

Dear Doug! I’ve been watching you for quite some time and I want to thank you for your excellent content. I'm from Russia and we have quite a few car reviewers, but your style and attention to detail is unique. I guess that 99% of your viewers are from the USA and your market is very different from ours, but I would like to see your opinion on such incredible cars as li auto l9, zeekr 007 (just presented) and zeekr 001, avatr 12, byd yangwang u8. I know that you reviewed very rare examples and it will not be easy to find these Chinese cars from you, but I think it will be interesting to everyone 😉

@bwofficial1776

6 ай бұрын

Those Chinese cars aren't sold in the US. That one video he did on the BYD was a press car that was temporarily imported. He refuses to travel out of the US unless it's a god-tier car. He's unlikely to go to China unless they made something absolutely incredible. Some run of the mill Chinese EVs won't do it.

I love this Porsche. I used to have a 1974 Mazda RX4 with a 13B turbo and had a young guy presumably driving his dad's 911 turbo try to drag race me from the lights. That's when he learnt a 911 turbo wasn't as fast as he thought it was!

My brother went to Germany and the Porsche factory and brought back a 930 Turbo model in Black with Gold. This was and still is the ultimate Porsche for me.

Um, it's not really the original Turbo. That would be the 1976 Turbo Carrera with a 3.0L engine. Then after that in 1978 the 3.3L Turbo 930 came out. In the US that lasted until 1979 and went away for awhile but returned in 1986 as the car you see in the video.

@jamesengland7461

6 ай бұрын

So, was the only difference the engine displacement?

@Mamo878

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesengland7461 Not the only difference but the engine was the biggest difference, as well as adding an air-to-air intercooler to it. Plus, the 'whale tail' style spoiler changed to the blocky version as in this video known as the 'tea tray' spoiler. That extra space in the spoiler is where the intercooler would fit into. Also, with that 3.3L '78 version came notable improvements to the brakes (they were upgraded to ones similar to those used in the 917 racecar!) and also quite a few suspension improvements. All-in-all those were significant improvements. Back in the day the 0-60 mph test numbers, for example, went from 6.7s for the 1976 3.0L Turbo Carrera to an incredible at the time 5.0s for the 3.3L 1978 930 Turbo.

Not turbo lag. Turbo hole. There is a difference between turbo lag and turbo "hole". Turbo hole is a rev range in which the turbo is useful, i.e. it's spooling to enough rotation that you can feel the boost build up. It's effectively the amount of gas coming out the exhaust that is building enough pressure to spool the turbo so that it spins high enough so that it can squeeze enough extra air into the engine so that you can feel it. On the modern car's turbos it's very low, around 2000rpm which is incredibly cool and makes the car feel torquey. This also implies that the turbos are probably not huge. Generally, the larger the turbo, to higher this hole is, i.e. the more revs the engine needs to actually spool the turbo. Turbo lag on the other hand is the time it takes for the turbo to spool from when you hit the accelerator. Let's say you're in the car above, that's now sitting at I dunno, 90mph, at around 4000rpm. It's in the power range, it will deliver a lot of power....however, if you completely let go off the gas, wait a second, and then you hit full gas, even if you're within the power range of the turbo, it will still take A LITTLE time, just a tiny bit, maybe 0.2-0.4s until the turbo builds up boost. It's in the rev range, meaning the exhaust gasses will spool it up no problem, but that whole chain of events does take a tiny bit of time longer than it is for example in the N/A car. Rally cars for example have the misfiring system, or the antilag, which effectively doesn't allow the turbo to lose it's rotational speed, so that the hit on the accelerator gives immediate response.

@jamesengland7461

6 ай бұрын

I've never heard of "turbo hole." I suspect it's because this is not a thing.

@rideepicdriveepic

6 ай бұрын

@@jamesengland7461 That's ok, car mechanics is not for everyone, let alone KZread racers.

Man! I had a RC in that exactly color, one of the best looking cars EVER ❤

With all manual HVAC controls, especially back in the day manufacturers used to label where each control needs to go for maximum windshield defrost capabilities. Nowadays it's just one button, it used to be that you had to switch all the manual controls to the right position yourself one by one.

The "Widowmaker" Nickname in german "Witwenmacher" is well deserved To quote Legendary German Race Driver Walter Röhrl: "Its only a Widowmaker if 1. you have no Experience with fast Cars and 2. you have a Wife." Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

My favorite car ever made on earth hands down! I’m 50 years old and never had a chance to own one or even drive one!

I have been waiting for this video for so long

My 71 v w type 3 had the same operation to open the fuel door but it was a rubber ball that you pulled on the right side because the door was on the right front fender The gauges would also jump on instead of gradual movement

Stunning piece of engineer, my first car was 1987 Mazdarx7, I love it Thanks for reviewing this 930 Porsche, so 😎...

One of my best friends was lucky enough in high school back in 1985-1989 had a 930 Turbo, the new 86.5 Supra, a Testarossa, a Ferrari 328 GTS, a Ninja 600, and probably others I forget.

A pure legend. I have the very similar ‘87 Carrera, same colour. Totally different driving experience… from what I’ve heard (turbo kicking in). I have experienced the 994 Turbo… truly fast, but entirely different from my generation of 911. Great review. Thanks for the video.

chat interaction with video is amazing, so many quirks and features haha

Great review

My 1987 930 was ordered in October of 1986 at the Porsche dealer in Fairfield, CT. Took awhile to come in, Grand Prix White with Burgundy interior and sport seats . It came from factory with the E.T Come Home rear brake light. Still have the dealer order: $61k included Connecticut sales tax, freight and dealer prep.

I got to drive a few of these around when I worked for a Porsche restorer here in Germany. Awesome cars, freaked me out when the turbo came in. One of them was a viper green metallic one, it looked awesome, still had the 4-speed.

This is unironically my favourite porsche. Its so beautiful