What apps and games do you want to see running on this in the next video?

@FranciscoDmz

Жыл бұрын

emulation of course!

@mohamedmostafamohamedmahbo5706

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the android version have Google play support

@dogesh828

Жыл бұрын

apex legends and your personal favorite android apps

@ivanperez295

Жыл бұрын

Can you run Batocera on it?

@theofficialgman

Жыл бұрын

GDlauncher from pi-apps. try out fabulously optimized modpack. hopefully this board has any opengl drivers. does it use mesa with panfrost or proprietary drivers (glxinfo)? reposted because KZread is deleting my comments...

Is it just me, or is everything you review the most powerful X ever?

@jponz85

Жыл бұрын

I literally commented the same lol. Everything in this channel is THE MOST POWERFUL w e thing he's promoting

@MikeJones-mf2rt

Жыл бұрын

It’s called clickbait marketing, KZread suggests it to all monetized content creators to increase view count.

@MikeJones-mf2rt

Жыл бұрын

Really though, it’s just marketing period.

@danowarkills4093

Жыл бұрын

That tends to be how technology moves forward

@MrGamelover23

Жыл бұрын

@Torvaltz what's the fastest chip for consumers?

I definitely want to see this chip turned into an Android car stereo, with the right screen and the right amplifier. I know it may sound overkill, but when you're using the maps app, spotify, car park cameras and other stuff, many "cheap" devices may let you down, crash apps, get slow... I would love to build one myself, but there are few singleboards that run android natively.

@garystinten9339

Жыл бұрын

This would be awesome with t'eyes CC3 or Ownice k7 firmware

@IngwiePhoenix

Жыл бұрын

This thing could do it I bet! It already has the cammera connectors so... find a good frame that fits and get making? ;)

@h8h81

Жыл бұрын

I have a Teyes cc3 clone and they sent me the 4gb ram version instead of 6 and it can get bogged down. This would be cool. I want to see a 21700 powered phone or tablet with this that could be used as an Android head unit

@garystinten9339

Жыл бұрын

@@h8h81 what is the clone called??

@h8h81

Жыл бұрын

@@garystinten9339 hengcheng pro s9. Not Teyes firmware just fyt uis7862

Khadas badly needs to put in the work on keeping their website, documentation and downloads/images up to date. Really let's the excellent hardware down.

@r3d2aku

Жыл бұрын

China do be like that

@pifre3051

Жыл бұрын

@@r3d2aku At least their handhelds are good

@jcap8391

Жыл бұрын

@@r3d2aku lol sometimes it be like that 😂

@kayakMike1000

Жыл бұрын

@@r3d2aku indeed

@somberrhombus

Жыл бұрын

I was gonna ask what the community was like for these boards. At $300 its a hard sell without substantial support.

Given that the board has an NPU (6 TOPS, my guess 8-bit) the main use is probably for running neural networks, AI

@anthonyrussano

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

I'd love to see this thing put into a retro handheld. Mostly curious to see how the port management on the case would be handled as well as getting air into the device for cooling.

For $200 you can get a decent x86 system. And you’re approaching the panda boards in price.

@michaelhaas7313

Жыл бұрын

I am seeing a price of $299 on Amazon. It´s a nice board, but I can get a Ryzen Mini PC with APU for that price, which is way stronger.

@lkjhgfdsa3533

Жыл бұрын

I saw it for $299 also. I might get it if it was $179 like someone else commented. But I think they were mistaken.

@erikkarsies4851

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelhaas7313 There seems to be a 200 dollar version also with 8 Gb

The PS2 emu was impressive 😮 can we possibly see Redream premium running and see how high the open gL will comfortably upscale things like Daytona USA, Sega Rally, MSR, Dead or Alive 2, the house of the dead 2 etc

This is so cool. I could imagine it carrying around together with my iPad Pro and the Magic Keyboard. I mainly use it for reading papers and writing assignments, but now I can do some coding on the go with it.

That board is so Cool thank you for all your reviews !

I would love to see something like this but with more ports (like 2.5g eth, pcie 4x slot, etc, all of these are supported by that chip). Video drivers are kind of a big thing here, currently we don't have great drivers that really take advantage of that gpu. It took a long time for the RK3399 to get proper open source drivers working, this is going to take quite some time as well IMO. Maybe next year we get improvements and better boards with more I/O

@marcusk7855

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the datasheet says the chip has 4 pcie lanes. But they have implemented them. Also can take ddr5 but they've gone with ddr4, and slow ddr4 at that.

@ezforsaken

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusk7855 oh you are right, forgot that part. Maybe we don't see them with ddr5 yet because support is iffy and only works on dram that isn't really available right now with current supply chain issues. (i'm just guessing)

@marcusk7855

Жыл бұрын

@@ezforsaken just saw the Rockpi 5 says it'll have the same chip with 2 x M.2(M & E keys) and ram @ 4.2Ghz so I'll hold out for that.

I've been waiting for a good look at this one. I REALLY wished it had a MicroSD slot. I was all set to preorder the Pro model until I noticed no MicroSD slot. Now, I'll think on it a while. I would be buying the model with case. I need to see a review with the new case before I buy at all.

If the price was a bit more in line with a pi this would make an awesome little retro console

@haziqsembilanlima

Жыл бұрын

fat chance. RPi still uses 4x A53 cores and the VC6 GPU barely improved over VC4 and don't mention how finnicky to get video acceleration running without customised Chromium/Firefox builds. Even if it works, there's still dropped frames. RPi's are cheap for a reason

@erikkarsies4851

Жыл бұрын

300 dollar on their website... not even comparable with a pi considering the -price.( the 8Gb is 200 dollar which makes that one cheaper than the ShieldTV !)

@Beyondesp

Жыл бұрын

I mean it kind if is... pi4 is quad core.. so this having 8 cores..... this is like 2 pis stuck together.. pi 4 8gb is 75.. so two of them 150.. this is faster too without being overclocked.. and has 64gb of emmc...

@tomokig2655

Жыл бұрын

I see also the price as the biggest hindrance. You cannot just take the board you also have to add the cooler and a case - that puts an additional price-tag to it.

@grimuk3817

Жыл бұрын

@@tomokig2655 What is the estimated price, exactly? Do u know?

The current issue with all RK3588s based boards is that they’re limited to using the Android aimed branched kernel that RockChip maintain that is (as far as I know) way behind mainline. This limits support for things like Vulkan and less optimised OpenGL support. Luckily it seems mainline is having support added, which will open the door for way better distributions.

@MrSlowestD16

Жыл бұрын

Can't be too far behind if it's running 22.04. You can't use an ancient kernel with the latest & greatest Ubuntu packages/libraries/etc., because eventually you'll run into issues, like some library uses some feature that doesn't exist in such an old kernel. EDIT: As for OGL and Vulkan. As long as the drivers are up to date an older kernel shouldn't matter. I'm guessing RockChip writes the driver. Really depends when they're updated for the performance of those things. If the driver is just as old as the kernel then yeah, might get annoying that you're behind. But if the driver is pretty modern, just on an old kernel? Still sounds like a good deal.

@Durandle

Жыл бұрын

@@MrSlowestD16 They have, AFAIK, merged updates and patches, so it's technically not that far behind, but means it's also not entirely "up to date", and being closed source means it's a gamble as to what may or may not be there and work. Its annoying, I wish they'd just push their stuff to mainline, but seems there's a dedicated group of people doing it for them so it'll get there.

@John-rw9bv

Жыл бұрын

Do remember, all the the BSDs work great on the 3399 :) We got the real kernel on our download page.

I can feel how happy you are because of the update.

It's awesome to see how fast it all go's with new single board pc's.

@anno5936

Жыл бұрын

Buddy... This SoC was announced over 4 years ago 🙄

Dude there are so many small factor PCs that are getting better and better. I've been looking for an arm based sbc to hopefully make a mini retro all in one system.

@linuxization4205

Жыл бұрын

i really don't understand why you need ARM specifically

@3v068

Жыл бұрын

@@linuxization4205 Power consumption concerns. Its easier and more efficient to use an ARM based system than X86 for an all in one. Sure I could get better performance, but I am not made of money.

@3v068

Жыл бұрын

@@linuxization4205 I can see your question though. Its completely valid. Why use an ARM based system when there are more powerful systems that can do it better? I am just looking out for my power bill since I would actually use it a lot. I game on my PC a lot, but I dont really need a top of the line PC when I can use a cheap system like this for emulation. Especially if it can do PS2 emulation. I could have my PC shut down and only use a fraction of the wattage.

@3v068

Жыл бұрын

@@linuxization4205 Its also about form factor as well. I like to keep things very small and tightly compact since I lived in my own room for the longest time with no other place to myself to keep my electronics. I've learned to compact and organize things. A small form factor like this would make it easy to hide and cable manage on a TV or under a Desk.

@gryg666

Жыл бұрын

@@3v068 You can buy e.g. Dell Wyse 5070 that eats less power than RPI4. I was also thinking about ARM pc's for homelab, but end up with 5 mentioned mini pc's, getting more performance for lower cost

The technology of these boards is evolving rapidly.

I'm very interested in buying a few of these. I'll need to look into the specs but power consumption and video processing are critical to my projects.

@ETAPRIME

Жыл бұрын

I will test total power consumption in the next video.

@johncnorris

Жыл бұрын

@@bulletpunch9317 - Probably not because it needs to be portable and run off a battery.

@johncnorris

Жыл бұрын

@@bulletpunch9317 - There's a possibility but I'm not sure I want to pay for the privilege of having Apple ARM silicon.

@catto-from-heaven

Жыл бұрын

​@@ETAPRIME Great!

Well, Boards with a LAN connector seem to be available as well, like i see in your link, as aaaalways, great review 😀

I'd love a sbc that can multimonitor, and run Jellyfin. And to know how many 1080p jellyfin streams it could support.

Nice demonstration, thanks.

Very nice SBC, however, compared to the Pi, the price is more in line with a low cost small form factor desktop x86. I do like the direction manufacturers are headed. Good video.

LOOKS GREAT THANKS 👍

Currently using a pi4 8gb as a home desktop, this board would be an awesome upgrade.

Agree; alt mode on that type c port would make this perfect

I feel like how amazing this is is completely going over people's heads. I wanna print an og nds housing for this badboy slap an irblaster on it and have a dope retro gaming web browsing remote control

Really love your reviews and overviews on arm based small form factor PCs and those devices android operating systems. Awesome specs within small form factor, 'which is pretty awesome!' @ETA PRIME

Khadas is mostly for commercial applications like touch screens. All their board are customizable. They are big in the design of kiosks etc.

Oooohh this thing looks dope. Might have to try to snag one of these.

@jakestocker4854

Жыл бұрын

That thing is a damn credit card!

looks solid for all rounder android tv box. if google drops the aging ADT-3, this seems the best candidate to replace it particularly because of its decoding capabilities and HDR

holy crap thats fast the loading is insane

Could you please made a poll if people would be interested in Plex server test in you reviews? Appreciate your work so far!

hey ETA. great video. really appreciate all of them. I'm from Trinidad. can you recommend a good display for this board. glad it you can

Hey! Ive been looking into buying one of these but find it hard to find more in-depth reviews of gaming/emulation. Was hoping that you could do an in-depth test of it. Cheers!

Great stuff

The possibilities for personal use on the go for this type of product niche is almost limitless.

it would be fun to see it to use in an emulation station for retro gaming .

🤔ETA... man i gotta say this to you. This is definitely one of my favorite tech channels because you not only have tutorials on things to learn and I'm actually actively learning some more new things from you but there is no elitism you don't scoff you don't shame like other channels. They just seem to have an attitude. Yours is very welcoming and I enjoy your content. Sub for life. P.S. many people have officially lost the ability to play retail retroarch mode on the series consoles I am unfortunately a casualty after I did have it up and running and I was resetting some stuff and realized I couldn't get back in this little device here definitely gets my gears turning on a little device I can carry with me and blow up on a TV if I want. I'm also new to emulation in a complicated lane. Vs simple stuff in the past. I have no prior smarts or schooling on computing or really knowing the ins and outs of everything but I am learning. For a noob I'm greatful for this space ❤

Definitely will buy

I'd love to see a full emulation video on Ubuntu for this. I hate Android for emu boxes because there's inevitably going to be some config tweaks required and it's just a lot easier to crack open a terminal and have full filesystem access and no ro partitions or sandboxing or anything of that nature. The tweaking is a lot easier on a normal Linux desktop, IMO. But generally out-of-the-box Android performance is better, so there's that... But that PS2 perf is quite nice. Curious how something like this would stack up against the Jetson Nano - you have one of those, don't you? The Jetson Nano isn't well supported anymore since the next revision is coming out next year.

This SBC is almost perfect. The only thing that's missing is the M.2 slot. 😯

@quademasters249

Жыл бұрын

This. I want M.2 minimum on my next SBC.

@sparkie5571

Жыл бұрын

kind of insane though the performance. all they need is more IO like nvme and better usb-c

@NITE_PINE

Жыл бұрын

even sd support would have been nice

@jhyog

Жыл бұрын

Mekotronics R58x ? Ive installed a Samsung 980 Pro in it and it works great

As someone who has been wanting to make an emulation handheld out of a switch lite, this sounds perfect, super thin, super powerful, display connections, this could be very interesting

@mistermcribbb1066

Жыл бұрын

And because most of the Io is on one side of the board, I could also create a dock for it to make it even more similar to the switch

The problem with 4 and 8 k probably is that YT uses av1 here.. maybe you can get 4K videos in h.265 I guess they have a hw decoder for the latter

For the price point and features Its a grate board!!! I will be buying one soon.

If you had the cooling and the power for it, how far could the rk3588 be pushed? Like if we strapped a cpu cooler to this, could you overclock the snot out of it?

You should do a video with the RK3588s boards that have an m.2 slot using an epgu. Linux has amdgpu support on arm and 6.2 added a lot of arm support for RDNA3 chips.

Imagine this power in a portable and affordable device.

Maybe I missed it but is there a way to expand the eMMC storage or do you just have to plug a thumbdrive/SSD into a USB port?

Awesome 👍

Would love to see this with Android, and I also like to see one of these with a couple of 2.5gbe ports and a 10gbe port.

I would have loved a 2.5Gbps lan on this. Thus turning it into a monster home server.

I'm really curious how the vin4 competes now that some time has passed. I'm at the moment looking for a soc computer to watch videos on youtube or live streams on twitch and such since power prices are going crazy these days and to same some compared to the full-on x86 computer. I'm intrigued with the edge 2 but if the vim4 performs similarly I'd rather have the ethernet port compared over wifi.

Waiting for more cool devices based on RK3588

This just screams.....make me into a handheld! This and a small battery management board for a battery, a display and controls...boom awesome!

Hi, great video review. How much better is this than the old Nvidia Shield TV? It's tiny

You think you could build a handheld console using this? I mean, it is a great performer, and knowing it is arm based SBC might give a real shot at it

@FamousWolfe

Жыл бұрын

I mean...power would be a real issue, it'd require a hefty battery and you probably wouldn't get great battery life. Might be on par w/ the Steam Deck. Honestly though, by time you spend money and time on materials, a 3D printed shell, a screen, controls etc you'd probably be better off just buying an entry level Steam Deck.

@pradeepmalar327

Жыл бұрын

@@FamousWolfe yeah, but it could be a fun project to do😅

I'd love to see a Tilt Five run on one of these SBCs

Awesome Would you please share keyboard details which you are using its attractive and compact

Can we get performance stats on that openmw? Also are you using the nightly build?

Please also test DAW like Cubasis 3 or Roland Zenbeats on Android for music production. As I'm seeing integrating this to my midi controller.

RockChip RK3588S's 8-core 64-bit has a 4×Cortex-A76 and 4×Cortex-A55 layout.

This seems like a pretty cool product. My main issue with it is the three camera connectors. Connecting 3 cameras to such a device is going to be pretty niche. If one of these connection points could have been hooked up to run a screen that would have been far more usefull.

@raul0ca

Жыл бұрын

Dude it's a surveillance board reference design. You don't need screens on those

Can you show us some dolphin emulation and Vulkan performance? Does this board use Mesa drivers?

Can you show benchmarks comparing this board with an intel i3?.

Knowing how much you love small form factor and modern versions of single board computers would you be interested in doing a build using ISA, VL Bus, and PCI Intel and AMD based single board computers? Those will run DOS, Linux, Windows right out of the box. Plus you can connect them to passive back planes with up to 20 expansion slots on the board. Add any number of HDDs, SSDs, optical drives, expansion cards, etc.

Their website shows a rather sleek case with pogo pins. How do you get that? Does it come with the pro model? The website doesn't make it clear.

Please do geekbench test.

They also make the tone and tone 2 which are both top tier dacs

I can just sit here and listen to ETA PRIME saying OOWOW all day.. LOL

This is really cool I’m wondering if this would be able to run a online mmorpg like dead frontier? It seems powerful enough

I am just waiting for someone to make a laptop with this board.

Thanks for sharing, can you try and test it for a car application?

Does anybody know if the 8GB model sacrifices any bandwidth? Is the difference 2x4GB vs 2x8GB or 1x8GB vs 2x8GB? I'd love to use one of these for that GPU and NPU combo, but memory bandwidth is a concern if it's single channel. I don't need more than 8GB, but if the bandwidth isn't there, it won't handle it well regardless.

great video it would be fine to see similar video for FIREFLY RK3588S PC having step by step installation of UBUNTU, i have searched all the net and there are nowhere steb by step instructions for UBUNTU installation

Audio processing ?? This seems ideal as a base for an HTPC, what onboard audio decoding does it feature ?

Will you try windows arm64 ? Maybe there aren't drivers for it, but if they are that'd be interesting to see

Jaw dropping!

I'm putting this in a project, a Linux Console I'm building... It's perfect!

still a few weeks from release it seems, have to wait for local pricing ?

Can this do hardware encoding on plex ? can we use this as nas with unraid ? how to add 2-4 hard drive or ssd in this board ?

Is it true that it doesn't run well with 2 monitors with Wayland ?? Or does it support 2 monitor on Wayland at all ?

i would love to see this running batocera

This lady made our dinner awkward.. ahh good times. but seriously this sbc looks awesome, now i want one.

Great video, (as always). I started posting my soft on youtube because of you, but if sobody could give so feedback then i know

When the system booted Ubuntu, did it boot that fast or did you speed up the video?

damn this thing opened up that web browser quicker than my full on gaming pc lol

do you think an RPI would or could come close in comparison to this SBC like an rpi 5 or 6,?

comparison of benchmarks to nvidia sheild when running android would be good

Such long time I'm waiting to get rk3588 based board (rock5B just keep being delayed). I would have jump into this one if it had provided a bit more I/O like M.2 ports: - one for adding NVMe because onboard storage is very small (32GB or 64GB): how do you manage to use as main desktop PC with that storage? - Ideally another M.2 ports for adding 4G modem and make it server + router desktop mini pc Hopefully more models should be available soon...

@jhyog

Жыл бұрын

Youve probably considered a Mekotronics R58x. Why noy buy that?

@Etienne85

Жыл бұрын

@@jhyog yeah had considered that one too. I probably dismissed because of slightly higher price ( 290$ vs 220$ in 16GB or 170$ in 8GB) and also powered from jack instead of USB-C. otherwise still a good alternative if not willing to wait for rock5b release.

impressive little thing. can't wait to see android running

Need this to replace a flaky Nvidia shield or 2 looks amazing. Are these like the other SBC's and don't actually exist to consumers seen a few that looked really promising but none were actually available for purchase.

@Khadas

Жыл бұрын

Hi, You can buy it on our store or amazon store.

Just ordered it

How was the emulation in the main menu of GT? Mine stutters like crazy and I'm on an i7 7800x and a RTX 3070ti!!!

Why haven't we seen a pie pro, I'd like something that uses the same Apu but upgrades ports, and upgrades the power intake.

this would work so good for a standalone VR headset

Thank God they are starting to put proper installers on these things. The whole weird iso image processes that for some weird reason has become the standard is such a pain.

@donovan6320

Жыл бұрын

Once upon a time, everyone gave you disks, and on these discs were the installers of your operating systems. But then one day we all decided those discs were too big, took up too much space and were too slow, and it was cumbersome to buy more expensive disks, and burn them all the time. So we turned to USB and flash, But we needed something to be compatible with both, ISOs are the result.

Hey just wondering if the khadas edge 2 can power up a portable monitor via usb-c port?

Hi man! Do you know if it exist something like this which supports windows?!? I need to install on windows and work with: acad, sketchup, rhino, photoshop, twinmotion, etc

You're probably stuck in Balanced Power Mode rather than Performance Power Mode. Had the same issue with Ubuntu I installed on an Asus cn60 Chromebox. Dropped frames at 1080p playback until after I made the change. Had to go command line to change it as the gui didn't offer me performance power mode.