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@kevinkev1530

9 ай бұрын

👍🏾👍🏾

@yahooanonymouse27

9 ай бұрын

Please test the RPi 5 with Win10 if possible.

@thatyummytofu

9 ай бұрын

i'd like to see if the rpi 5 can run genshin

@MohamedMostafa-yo6gz

9 ай бұрын

Booting from m.2 nvme

@robert_5974

9 ай бұрын

I'd love to see you run OpenDash (Android Auto Dashboard). It is built on Qt5 and Raspberry pi OS. I think it would work on this new pi but I'd have to have one to test obviously. That's what I primarily have my pi4 (2gb and 4gb) doing (one in car and one on desk). Or even Open auto Pro would be fine but that one costs money if you don't already have a license.

I am personally quite excited to see that there is a power button now incorporated on the board. For those making DIY hand helds this will make incorporating one much easier on the board.

@tuliocastro2302

9 ай бұрын

That was an amazing feat!

@DownMemoryLaneParis

9 ай бұрын

Opi5 has one...nothing breathtaking

@tommycaldwell6953

9 ай бұрын

How much do you think a diy handheld will cost?

@Hasher411

9 ай бұрын

I heard that the power button does not power the board all the way off.

I hope the prices will be… reasonable over time

@arias1234

9 ай бұрын

It's 5 more than the pi 4,so it will depend if scalpers get their hands on them

@oliverpolden

9 ай бұрын

Don’t worry, you probably won’t be able to get hold of one anyway.

@goeland4585

9 ай бұрын

@@arias1234 lololol

@arias1234

9 ай бұрын

@@oliverpolden I wouldn't be so doubtful, I just pre-ordered mine with little issue

@jj-icejoe6642

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

4:45 - heh, I am also excited to see your retro gaming testing on the Pi 5 :)

Great to see you covering this one. You cover some of my use cases, so it's great to give a preview before I get my hands on one!

This looks like a good upgrade, and as you said, I'm looking forward to Jeff Geerling to do some awesome stuff with the pcie 2.0.

@andrebrait

9 ай бұрын

The CM4 already had PCIe 2.0 1x, so most projects that exist for it are now within reach of the new RP5. I'm looking forward to the CM5 as that should have an extra PCIe lane relative to this one, and 2x PCIe 2.0 isn't bad at all

@pradeepmalar327

9 ай бұрын

@@andrebrait true, but instead of having it only in the compute model, we also have it in the base. So, it'll be a bit more interesting

@roqeyt3566

9 ай бұрын

I believe you should be able to unlock pcie 3.0, although it isn't officially certified It may be enough for something like a gt 1030

@pradeepmalar327

9 ай бұрын

@@roqeyt3566 I did notice that in the video of Jeff Geerling. It's gonna be really interesting

@roqeyt3566

9 ай бұрын

@@pradeepmalar327 i hope that they can get it working on most devices, if the drivers are decent we might see some very nice high resolution performance

I would have never known about these arm devices if it weren't for your excellent coverage 🙏🏽

I have been watching you for the better part of a decade now. Always great intro music. Always have good subject matter. Always have interesting tech pieces. Just wanted to say thank you for it.

i will be watching leepsvideo and explaining computers pi 5 reviews right away, thanks for yours, i have five pi 4 8gbs that i will need to replace, dang, but good news for future, thanks for taking the time to share

Can't wait to see vintage-style gaming handhelds utilizing this, or see how well it'll perform as a media center for a theater system.

I had no idea this was even planned!

Be keen to see N64 performance on it! Also, keen to see a RPCS3 focused setup. AVX512, Ryzen 7000 etc.

@Williampentium133

9 ай бұрын

Isn't N64 emulation already at full performance with the Pi 4?

@russomd

9 ай бұрын

On some gamers its ok for N64 but not all. @@Williampentium133

@PutlerHuyIo

9 ай бұрын

@@Williampentium133 Nah... Just tried to play Mario Tennis the other day, it's a slideshow mess no matter which settings you tweak. And don't even get me started on the known performance hogs like Golden Eye and Conker. -_-

Loved the Jeff Geerling shoutout. Great to see content creators hype each other up.

Rpi5 what a surprise! A76 and a Vulkan 1.2 driver, what an awesome box this is going to be. My only hope was a standard size HDMI 2.1 port, but oh well can't have everything. Let's hope for good availability this time.

Doom 3 will be 1080/60 with time. This level of power will be insane with the Pi community behind it. Sure, more powerful SOCs are available, but without a community, good luck. Now, let the battle to get one at MSRP begin.

@microlinux

9 ай бұрын

Mmnnaa doom 3 will do 1080p60 if someone makes a fast GL ES render. Thst port use a very old render that's not optimized on current mobile gpus

@AaronHendu

9 ай бұрын

Doom 3 runs 1080P 60fps on my several year old phone...

@srobeck77

9 ай бұрын

@@AaronHendu the phone u paid over $800 for? You need to go home, take a good nap and dream about a person with common sense. When u wake up, dare to believe u will become that person.

@gdutfulkbhh7537

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m not paying a scalper for a Pi... but if they really do arrive at the stated price point, I’ll order a couple.

@Razzbow

9 ай бұрын

​@@srobeck77be kind

Thanks for the introductory video. I know you mentioned this, but would love to see the PS2 testing. Also I use an SSD with an Argon case with a couple of Raspberry Pi 4's. Would like to see some SSD testing, although that may be too soon as I imagine a lot of solutions with be forthcoming with PCIE instead of USB 3.

Of course you also got it ahead of launch. What I like the most is the fact that RPi 5 will have good cooling right out of the box, compared to RPi 4 at launch. The RTC battery is also a nice addition, besides faster storage, the power button and the PCIe port.

@zintoki8211

9 ай бұрын

Cooling is not in the box.

@MihaiTrica

9 ай бұрын

@@zintoki8211 No, it is not, but at least this time they say directly that cooling is needed.

@solanumtuberosa

9 ай бұрын

Not sure how that is a positive thing. From you can somewhat run it without cooling to cooling is mandatory but we will not provide one.

@rmo9808

9 ай бұрын

​@@solanumtuberosaIt'll run without cooling it just throttles.

@sundhaug92

9 ай бұрын

@@zintoki8211 It is if you buy the official case (they also sell a cooler separate)

With this SoC board pi5 has brought the true desktop experience to the table . I think , with this much of performance , this board will easily replace a 6 years old intel i3 PC easily . Great job by Raspberry foundation 👍🏽

I’m for sure wanting to see how the emulation goes with more support coming.

My body is ready. I have been holding out for this!

I already printed my pi 5 case 2 days ago.. i received my new rpi5 7 days ago and i love it so far. There is so much improvement from the rpi4.

Dang it, i JUST got my hands on the 4B! Now im gonna have to upgrade!

@Nickbaldeagle02

9 ай бұрын

Same here. Been waiting months for it.

Holy cow! I didn’t think it was coming this year!!!

Thanks for a great intro to the Pi5

just like the day the pi4 was released, I was up late, saw a video pop on YT and was able to get an order in that day. Thanks for the heads up and the videos.

I have a great respect for Raspberry Foundation because they created an entire market of SBC boards, and their legacy is unquestionable, but has been a long time since they have released a board on par with the ones from other brands, specially Orange Pi. The RP5 seems to be the same case, comparing with the OP5 (more powerful and maybe cheaper).

@PutlerHuyIo

9 ай бұрын

The problem with Orange Pi is weak community support and documentation. Almost every uncommon bug or an issue you'll encounter you're pretty much on your own.

@mastersiredward

9 ай бұрын

I have a OP5 here, the 16GB model. Doesn't have Wifi or BT, but at least have a NVMe slot. The whole SBC market evolved, but RF still lives in the past :(

@Promilus1984

9 ай бұрын

@@PutlerHuyIo the biggest problem was Allwinner chips. Opi5 uses Rockchip which has much better Linux support (allwinner chips are designed with Android in mind and some of the functionality is exposed through open source projects like Lima graphic drivers or Cedrus video decoding). And as for "weak community support" - while not exactly official and only OrangePi centric there's great community centered around OS - Armbian - which is working on a few dozens of popular SBC boards and delivers pretty decent support. RK3588 is faster processor and obviously has few other strong points. And that's something which came out some time ago en masse and at fairly low price point. I'm sorry, I just don't see how RPi5 can be considered technological rival to Opi5/5plus. It's already outdated during pre-launch!

@sandhill9313

9 ай бұрын

And you NVMe fits on the board? No great advantage there, I think.@@mastersiredward

I still wanna do that Gamecube Sleeper you build a while ago. Now with the Pi 5 around the corner, I can actually skip on the NUC and probably use this one instead, 3D print the backcover for the ports and save on space inside. Really excited but also do I have still plans for using it as a desktop replacement when not playing games. Hopefully supplies will not be as limited as with the Pi 4 throughout its lifespan.

@zacstephenson3734

9 ай бұрын

I've tried finding that sleeper build and can never find it.

Glad to see the Raspberry Pi getting some love again after the supply chain issues these last couple years. I'm glad I got my 4 model when it came out, will be looking to get this one as well!

So stoked! Gonna jump on this as soon as i can

Great video, would love to see a comparison with orange pi 5 and other similarly priced boards.

@waterup380

9 ай бұрын

they be like maybe ten or more KZread channels already doing that or in the next few weeks

@michaelscottboston

9 ай бұрын

Orange Pi 5 had the same 4 cores, plus 4 A55 cores... RKNN accelerators and an M2 slot.

@DownMemoryLaneParis

9 ай бұрын

From the video I saw here and there for rpi5 emulation so far, the orange pi5 is already reaching these performances

@danted1329

9 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure they are going to release Orange Pi 6 early 2024.

Really looking forward to Retropie down the line. Along with Retroflag it's one of the best home emulation consoles out there.

Im excited with this Pi5. It's really good, fast and snappy. I use pi mainly for server running micro services for me.

A Handheld is one of my bucket list projects, and I'm excited to see what this can do

Man, I can't wait for these to never be in stock. 😑 Realtalk though, the biggest game changer here has to be the power button.

I did not think we would see a pi 5 for some time after the supply problems a great surprise and at last a power button and an RTC I will be getting one when available

Thanks for the video. Sweet little box for which unfortunately I have no use!

I’m super excited for this one. Can’t wait to watch the community do miracles with it

this is a surprising release for all the news I constantly look up to says there wont be RPi 5 until 2024. with this the RPI is I think finally strong enough for everyday light task computing desktop. gona miss the 3.5 jack tho..

I'd love to see a rp5 nas! New hardware options & capabilities vs rp4 variations !

@albioza

9 ай бұрын

1.6A output instead of 0.6A make NAS dream a little bit more real.

Nice, finally a useable speed for pi as a desktop for around $100 with the needed accessories. Pi 4 was close but this looks way better.

Damn! Pre-ordered immediately. Thank youi

I just wanted to tell you that I enjoy your long form content, and you are one of the only content creators from which I’ll watch every single video. Keep up the excellent work, and I believe that you’ll enjoy long term success that few others in your niche will ever find due to your personality and content. Take care, God bless.

For $60-$80 i dont understand why we are supposed to be impressed by doom 3 running at sub-60 on low-medium settings in 2023. The game is 20 years old now. Never quite understood the raspberry pi audience

@user-xr3rb6pn9m

9 ай бұрын

Can you find anything which will run it better for the same price?

@LatitudeSky

9 ай бұрын

Have had the same feeling the entire time I owned a PI 3 and PI Zero and Zero 2. It wasn't until I used a Zero 2 to run Pihole that I found any task a Pi could do well. It does that beautifully. My Pi 3 runs an ADSB decoder feed. It does that really well. But nothing else. For utility tasks, great. I am glad to finally use that bloody Pi 3 for any task at all.

@oliverpolden

9 ай бұрын

The Pi isn’t meant to be used as a desktop computer or an emulation machine. A lot of people do use it for that because of price and support. However it’s meant to be used for projects with its IO capabilities, form factor and power requirements, although 25W is now departing the low power a power bank could reasonably supply.

@AlistairBrugsch

9 ай бұрын

​@@oliverpoldenindeed, it's going to be a challenge making a handheld with one of these😂

So excited for this release!

I love that the power consumption is more or less on par with Pi 4 or at least close. Small size, similar price points, yet much faster storage, USB3, it's all nice. Desktop use seems legitimately possible now. Of course we can always want more. While I knew we were unlikely to get RK3588S beating performance, I wish we were closer, and more efficient. The Pi 5 is pretty much better in almost every way compared to the Pi 4, but then of course it should be. The fact that it is a Raspberry Pi means the best support and community size. Booting from SSD via USB3 is nice, and of course PCIe2 with possible near 3.0 speeds is also nice. Losing the audio jack is a minor bummer, but I understand the tradeoff. Power button is also a nice bonus. We can always want more, but to me, this is still very much welcome and very nice improvements for the price point. I hope to snag one to play around with and hope it can handle some slightly higher end console emulation such as Dolphin as well as be a legitimate desktop replacement. I hear 16gb is "likely" in the future. Overclocking headroom seems small initially but it's not a big deal for me. Ultimately final performance is what matters. Wish they had a 16gb at launch but maybe they are waiting for memory prices to come down to hit a certain price point, perhaps even sub $100?

I am super curious to see how well the Pi 5 is going to fare when it comes to emulation, so I hope to see a ton of testing in that area. Will also be looking forward to see how well Android can run on this.

@esteban-

9 ай бұрын

Want android? Just get a orange pi 5... twice the bang for the same money.

@lucusdownto

9 ай бұрын

Well considering the Orange pi 5 has those same 4 cores, as well as 4 more cores that are identical to the 4B, twice the ram and isn't single channel, and oh it's cheaper too. I'd say it's OK, but there's always better, for less. Rpi's are crap. They're Flashy cult cards. If they kept their values of affordable computers for the masses and not "Let;s milk this pi 4b thing for years" I'd show some respect but Orange Pi literally shows them up every month with a new better version of everything they make. They make it cheaper. Better specs, lot's of software support, and more storage with a F-ing hat. Orange Pi 5 doesn't need hat to have NVME drive, Orange pi 3B (4B competitor) has emmc that's like 15$ for 256GB included, as well as an nvme slot. The Zero2W by Orange has 4GB DDR4 with quad 1.5 for 32$ CAD. or 18$ cad for the 1GB, and 1.5 and 2GB versions as well, with an expansion board that's like 6-7$ to add in. The 3B is currently half the price of the 4B, and when adding in the 256GB emmc it's still cheaper. Infact I'd hazard you could get a 3B with a 256 nvme, a 256 emmc, a case, all the hooks ups, for less. I wanted this stupid Rpi to innovate so others are forced to, this isn't the Raspberry pi 5. It's the Raspberry pi 4C.

I tried to daily drive the Pi4 as my web machine for about a week, but smooth 4K60hz output is a necessity for me and the Pi4 just does not cut it. Can't wait to test run the Pi5.

thanks for update i want to get pi5 soon

This is really much of a Upgrade. Way perfection.

It's a huge step forward but I think it should have been bigger. Considering how fast everything changes how fast the requirements grow it's only adequate but not so future proof. Still good to see improvement and curious about what the community do with it.

@all.day.day-dreamer

9 ай бұрын

For 2023 and going into 2024, I just don't see this product appealing to as many people in the same way that the Pi 3 and Pi 4 captivated it's customers back over the last handful of years. I'm happy to see a new Pi 5 but this is not something I would be interested in.

@MrGamelover23

9 ай бұрын

​@@all.day.day-dreamerIt was never meant to be powerful enough to be your new personal computer for less than 50 bucks, it was always meant as a tinker toy.

@sieg131

9 ай бұрын

It's hard to even want to upgrade at the moment because it's faster... but not really enabling anything new. If the gpu was like 4-5X better or dropped Broadcom for better support I'd be happier to replace all my 4s

@crunchyfrog555

9 ай бұрын

It's really not in the remit of them to be this way. They've never made any target to catch up with current tech or fulfil that part of the market. These remain a target to be AFFORDABLE tinker toys to get into coding. And that's what this is.

@pamus6242

9 ай бұрын

I am ok with everything but deeply desire 16gb minimum.

Can you test video encoded with AV1? I’m curious if the cpu is fast enough to software decode at various resolutions; especially if the gpu doesn’t have a hardware AV1 decoder.

wow this is awesome. Literally more excited than i should be.

Good to see a new pi on the market finally. Especially after the raspberry pi drought we are/were in.

How would this compare against the Orange Pi 5 Plus? Specially Ps2 wise? I know is early to tell but still

It would be nice to see benchmarks and gaming comparisons with the Pi 4, but at the same frequencies, like 1.5 or 1.8 GHz.

@ericcostello4224

9 ай бұрын

ye homie always drops the ball when it comes to actually interesting data.

@rolyantrauts2304

9 ай бұрын

Why would you want to run the 2.4 ghz 16nm at 1.5 or 1.8Ghz as yeah it runs slower. What you should do is set the clock so it provides the same wattage whatever that is with the new SoC and then bench.

@ninline2000

9 ай бұрын

I run my pi4 at 2.2ghz. I just wonder how much overclock the pi5 can handle.

Awesome vid! One question though! Is the gpu the videocore 6 or 7? On screen it says 7 but you refer to it as 6. Thanks for another great vid!

I can’t wait to see once the emulators are optimized for the Pi5

My only hope for the Raspberry Pi 5 is that it's more readily available than the 4 was

@lucusdownto

9 ай бұрын

Just buy a better brand, idk any other board. But for me personally an Orange Pi 5 with 8 cores, double the ram, dual stacked, nvme built in, for around the same price is kinda better. OR get the 8GB ram for cheaper, or get the 5B and skip the whole NVME business since both it's emmc and the nvme is equally fast, and atleast it's not an SD card for the fifth damn time, with a QUAD CORE, Why always a crappy quad core. Why not a hexxa core. Hell the Orange pi 4 had the RK3399 which had a hexa core. And it also has nvme access.The Opi3B is cheaper with the same specs but it too has emmc, nvme, and if you get the 256 emmc with it guess what? it's still less than a pi 4B and wow it's ALWAYS available. Check out their Zero2W and Zero 3 and tell me you';d rather buy a Rpi Zero 2W cause then it just confirms that the apple cult isn;t exclusive to apple, This entire reveal is a huge dissapointment. Innovation should've happened, or atleast CATCHING UP. But instead they made the Rpi4C and called it the 5.

A new Pi that nobody will be able to find (unless you're a content creator with contacts) 😅

It's quite interesting, that those Geekbench 5 results are roughly in later Core 2 Duo ballparks 😉 This is what we have here and it's worth to remember what kind of performance we have here. Roughly ~10-15 years before the desktop top-end.

looking forward to your videos on overclocking the heck out of it! I hope there will be a 34% increase in performance overall and some better frame rate for emulation. Also, will the Ice Tower Heat sink works with the Pi 5?

@UltimateGattai

9 ай бұрын

Oh yes, I waiting for this, now I can redo my emulation machine, I hope retroflag makes a cool retro case with SSD support for it.

I really hope that someone starts making crazy coolers for the raspberry pi 5. Hopefully it should run at 2.8 at least.

@uhohwhy

9 ай бұрын

why? if 2.4 is not enough 2.8 just wont cut it

@anvior45

9 ай бұрын

That is a funny question to ask a tech enthusiast: I spent about 3 days working on the overclocks on my new gaming pc. Did the extra 100mhz matter for game performance? Not really, but you do it for the love of the game. Also in some cases like video playback it might just be enough to stop dropped frames.@@uhohwhy

@uhohwhy

9 ай бұрын

@@anvior45 it seems rpi 5 is perfect for 1080p playback but 4k is beyond repair.

@anvior45

9 ай бұрын

I have a gaming pc, but having it running just to watch youtube/social media/guides is overkill. If you consider that a 100 dollar phone can manage this i think the Pi5 should manage fine as well. Quite a few people have liked the idea of using a lightweight distro and windowmanager so you can use the Pi as a desktop replacement. EDIT: Since the gaming pc will draw way more power then the Pi 5, even when doing just light tasks. @@Spherix441​

It's nice and a cool surprise, but I think certainly from an emulation POV, Raspberry Pi isn't really worth it anymore. You can pick up a way more capable second hand Mini PC around the same price with no need to purchase extras like a case etc that will outperform this no problem. I got a Ryzen 3 2200GE mini PC for £85 and it just does pretty much everything.

@ravagingwolverine666

9 ай бұрын

I agree. SBCs are cool and all, but for an emulation box used mini PCs are the way to go now. I favor the Thinkcentre Tiny and the HP and Dell equivalents. The tower and SFF units are good too for those that have the extra space. Those are what I recommend to people. Early this year, I saw the Thinkcentre Tiny with the fourth-generation i5 and 8GB selling for $40-45 with the power adapter which was a crazy deal. The Ryzen box you have will be far more capable, obviously and that sounds like a great price as well.

@creechrfeechr8094

9 ай бұрын

@@ravagingwolverine666 I have one of those too and use it all the time for emulation. Saturn, GameCube, PSP, no problem on an I5 4570t. For £50 it's a no-brainer vs a Pi.

@celebrategout1008

8 ай бұрын

Hey another ryzen mini pc person. I got a ryzen 5 2400g for about $114, man I've never seen such amazing performance on such a cheap device. The pi just seems like a rip off

Ive used a PI400 as my daily driver since about a month after they were released. I cant wait for this.

So glad we have the 5 since we can´t find the 4 to buy.

Amazing video 👌👍 I'm going with x86 now with Beelink S12 mini pro with intel n100 processor. 👍 I think it will be a better spend for my requirements than the Pi 5.

@iokwong1871

9 ай бұрын

The N200 is like a dream CPU right now for a lot of things. LOL

@konsolowygracz

9 ай бұрын

@@iokwong1871 Ryzen 5600H is in the same price as N200, much faster, but with higher TDP :)

@iokwong1871

9 ай бұрын

@@konsolowygracz with the current price it makes no sense but I think that's due to the fact N200 is just not common yet. It should be for sub $200 system. Like the N6000 etc. Will see....

@vinsan98

9 ай бұрын

@@iokwong1871 yeah there are only router/firewall type devices with n200 currently. But the n100 is much common. I'm just confused in between Chwui Larkbox X and Beelink S12 mini pro (both of them have n100 but one has ddr5 12gb and other ddr4 16gb respectively.)

@iokwong1871

9 ай бұрын

@@vinsan98 for whatever reason, that seems to be the case. I have my eyes on a educational laptop for a long time, which I can't get one nearly a year after its announce. LOL it's precious version is only $160. But Linux runs beautifully on it. The new version come with 8GB of DDR5, which is a much have on the N200. (Significantly better, compared to DDR4.)

Would be interested in comparison with passive intel chips. You can get N100 motherboard for about 100€ so I guess the price would be similar in the end.

@brulsmurf

9 ай бұрын

n100 is 50% faster in geekbench 5 singlecore but also 40% more expensive

Straight on this. Pre-ordered.

preordered mine early this morning

Nice but.. the Rock Pi 5A (Rk3588s Which maybe more powerful) managed to keep the Pi 4 layout & headphone socket, so i'd like to know why they had too change it here?

@hackerx7329

9 ай бұрын

It has a header to attach one but really you were always better off with either a cheap USB DAC or an I2S DAC. They not only rearranged the camera and display connectors but they are now software switchable so you can connect 2 cameras or 2 displays or mix and match AND they are double the bandwidth of what the previous models have so they can handle higher resolutions so if you wanted to build a portable entertainment machine you will have a lot more options now. I think losing a lower quality audio/video output in exchange for higher quality video in and out is a pretty good tradeoff. That PCIe connector will also allow for things like SSDs being attached. This video also didn't mention that all 4 USB ports now have separate controllers so the bandwidth isn't shared between any of them AND the ethernet is on a separate controller meaning networking is faster now.

@superderpyderps

9 ай бұрын

It has a crap ton more I/O than the 4 does, pads are still there if you want to solder your own analog connector, but the better I/O was a higher priority and ultimately a better value

I'm quite curious about the idea of a Batocera setup on a Raspberry Pi 5, but I have my doubts about whether it can really handle PS2 emulation effectively.

@PotterPossum1989

9 ай бұрын

Agreed, I bought a Pi 4 for retro game emulation, and I'll be looking into a gaming PC for a later era emulation, I just don't trust these small devices to be capable just yet. I think I read last night that Pi is a step below a mini computer, and I'm seeing that there are some issues those, so...

@jogo8261

9 ай бұрын

Whoa, whoa, whoa… Let’s try to get N64 emulation running reasonably before we get crazy and start talking about PS2… Lol

Great video, can you test this as a NAS please.

Performance results running Doom3 on Raspberry Pi 5 was EVERYTHING I wanted to see for years. Thanks a lot!!!

Well, aethersx2 would have been great but time will tell. Curious to see a direct comparison with the orange pi 5 in terms of performance/watt. Think it is a bummer that there is no m.2, but it is always a trade off when you look at different models Edit: Jeff already did 😅

@Vicstruction

9 ай бұрын

He didn't test PS2 because it can't run it. When the price inflates like always, a used rooted phone will be the better choice like always. You can find a galaxy s10e for $90 and it is 30% faster than the pi 5 without any overclocks, it just has slower memory. People have been using them for years already. PI is a ripoff after the price inflates unless you risk aliexpress

@mmert138

9 ай бұрын

A76 cores are not the best when it comes to ps2 emulation. Hope he overclocks and show the results.

@anno5936

9 ай бұрын

@@Vicstruction I got it that ps2 does not work now, hence me saying "time will tell" expecting we will see lineage OS soon enough ;) Reason I don't want to go with a reasonably priced phone is simply that I scored 2 amoled screens, 5" 16:10 with touch and would like to build a 3ds style handheld for and by myself. They work great with an RK3399 , but that is not powerful enough to run aethersx2 either and is also a bit larger than a raspi layout... orange pi 5 is the most reasonable I can think of right now as the available compute models are priced way too high (eg the firefly core), but if it works with a raspi 5 good enough for the few games I want to have on the go, and a possible compute model will come out I'd take that rather than anything else. Even an overclocked k400 runs a few, so let's see 🙂

I was reading about the release about an hour ago and thought ‘I can’t wait for eta prime to get hold of one’ and here you are!!! 😀👍

I think the new Pi5 looks great. The lack of 3.5mm audio is a bit of a bummer. I can also see that power button come away from the board due to mechanical stress over time. Nothing a soldering iron wouldn't solve as long as the solder pads are not lifted.

This is a total surprise, I didn't know there were plans to release one any time soon.

no headphone jack is a HUUUUUGEE L

If there is a way to make a portable handheld with this Pi 5, I definitely want to see that.

@6WaysToSomeday

9 ай бұрын

shouldn't be that much change for the PiBoy DMG handheld.

@srobeck77

9 ай бұрын

theres already hundreds of emulator portables out there on amazon. dont need another one

If killer instinct arcade plays I'm sold!

I can't wait to see performance vs the Pi 4!! 👍👍👍

The av jack will be missed for sure. But what I'd personally like to see from that board at this point is a VR kit built on it. I mean, it already got four 4k60 video out options, two of them being ribbon cables only makes things use even less space. It's time for homemade VR stuff.

@impuls60

9 ай бұрын

I've been thinking of diy google for several years. Theres so many screens available on Ali and 5GhzAC networking can support VR. The wifi7 will also support high end VR.

@manicmarauder

9 ай бұрын

Agreed on missing that jack. Now I would have to sacrifice another port for it to be a drop in replacement. Though considering this will likely just be unobtanium part 2 it's probably best to look for something else anyway. Thankfully there are lots of choices out there these days.

@martindejong3974

9 ай бұрын

you can still get composite video out of the PI 5, as it has a pinheader for composite video, and thee are several audio options also (beyond just using HDMI audio)

@leonoliveira8652

9 ай бұрын

@@martindejong3974 I mean, it works, but it's pretty clunky. I bet someone will make a HAT for that, tho.

@coolelectronics1759

9 ай бұрын

nice, what about the analog signal? any way to get that piped without a silly dongle thing?

It looks great on paper and finally just fast enough to be a basic desktop replacement, but as always the Pis are unobtainable unless you want to pay a huge premium from scalpers and importers that want to make a quick profit.

@josephdias5859

9 ай бұрын

plenty of alternatives that just as good though like orange pi

@robert_5974

9 ай бұрын

It may be better with pi5 since more than likely the pi foundation knew they would be producing the new board and ramped down produ8of the 4 in favor of the 5...but we will see.

@AlistairBrugsch

9 ай бұрын

It's only unobtainable right now because it's pre-order only. It's not due to ship to anyone (except hand picked previewers like ETA, Jeff Geerling and Explaining Computers) until end of October.

@blastbottles

9 ай бұрын

The issues plaguing the shortage last time have been pretty much fixed so you should see them in stock

Hope you can produce more Pi videos like in the past.

I would definitely like to see more of it's browser performance (and different browsers compared), How does it run browser games, services like Plex/Jellyfin and so on

This looks really promising. Definitely a great get for now. I'm personally waiting for a competitor with Intel's Twin Lake cores (Likely Crestmont based Alder Lake-N successor). That thing will be extremely efficient and very capable. Fingers crossed we'll see it by Spring or even Summer time.

Can it do ps2 emu on retropi? I doubt 😅

Looks like a big upgrade!!!. Could you provide some power consumption during all the tests you run on it?. For me is a huge point of the ARM platform. Thanks!!!

I was waiting to buy a new raspberry pi for a lot of time. But now I'm very happy with my orange pi 5 plus.

It's a step up from the Pi 4, but it changes and axes a few too many things for my liking while seemingly not being that competitive and I'm overall rather doubtful this will find the place it wants. Emulation folks will have likely found something better, and this might alienate some of the maker community because of the higher base price and power requirements. I guess we'll just have to see, though.

@kennethd4958

9 ай бұрын

I agree. The reason the RPi became a popular emulation device (and just popular in general) was how cheap and available it was... now with so many better options and RPi's prices going up and availability going down I just am not too sure where this will land besides the RPi enthusiasts.

@nataclar

9 ай бұрын

Yeah there are too many other options that are far superior, especially for emulation. I just don’t see the point. It is just too expensive and the axing of the headphone jack is an issue for my use cases. There are just too many options.

Looks good, only thing is I wish they had a 16GB version as well.

@Black10710

9 ай бұрын

not worth it in my opinion, 8 GB is a lot already for this processor, 16 would be wasted

@olteration

9 ай бұрын

What on earth would you need 16gb for?

@MrDavidRicketts

9 ай бұрын

This isn't a GPU 😅

@Black10710

9 ай бұрын

@@MrDavidRicketts i did the same reasoning i'd do with a phone. All that ram wouldn't be fully used by this processor, it's a cost you would be adding to a machine which is pretty cheap for what it can do. And 8 GB isn't small for this

Nice review! I wish these guys had been around when I was a kid. That is some nice gaming for $80. The rest of the rig is common redundant stuff.

So tempted to buy this....

I wonder what their positioning is.. they should've had a better pcie lane exposed with more bandwidth, it would've made possible more NAS/homserver usecases.. Relying on USB is just bad

@merthyr1831

9 ай бұрын

Especially when those USBs dont have the power envelope to support hard drives safely.

@superderpyderps

9 ай бұрын

You can modify the config to set the version to 3.0. Still only one lane, but double the bandwidth if you're ok running it without the certification. Should be enough to run a half decent raid, though you'd still have to deal with network and CPU bottlenecks more than likely

Real bummer about the HDMI ports.

@ETAPRIME

9 ай бұрын

Wish we had at least one full size

@MetallicBlade

9 ай бұрын

Also RIP to the 3.5mm audio jack,

Damn. Wasn't expecting this on my birthday !

The step into a different direction. You now may really use it as a desktop, on the other hand I prefer the silent cooling on previous PIs. If it comes to emulation, I'm already fitted with the 3b+ for all consoles with 4:3 aspect ratio (up to PS1). For the games with more hardware needs I still use my gaming rig. All is set up and ready to go. If this device hits the market like the PI 400 AND with passive cooling it would be a very attractive desktop "PC". The PCI connector cries for a m.2 drive.

RPI burned so much of their userbase. They were unobtanium for so long, many folks stopped developing for them. Especially when other microcontrollers running MicroPython/CircuitPython have gotten more powerful -- yet still remain inexpensive and most importantly, AVAILABLE. If you need a full OS like the RPI offers -- well, for just a marginal amount more than the asking price (and a lot less than the scalper rate), you can build out a legit microformfactor PC that's many more times the processing power. For products like custom digital signage, that's not as appealing -- but for hobby home users? Yeah, RPI isn't even on the radar anymore. And now the machine is a little bit more expensive? They're not selling anyone on that.

I think the Pi 5 is going to be a dead on arrival product for a lot of people, especially for emulation. Over on the Chinese web sites, I'm seeing a lot of mini PC's really dropping down in price and this is with 16gb DDR4/5 and 500GB/1TB drives. I just picked up a AMD 5800H fully decked out of $225 shipped. Yes it's more expensive but not by much and you can do so much more. I've always been a Pi 3 and Pi 4 fan, I have 4 or 5. But, the Pi 5 at it's price point and poor GPU performance is not something I would consider. But, fond memories and I think for something, it might be a good fit for them. Dropping frames @ 1080p tho? That's a deal breaker for sure.

@acra89

9 ай бұрын

Even considering things like the Steam Deck, which is ‘only’ 3-4x the price - but for that you get the controls, the screen, portability etc. It’s like they’re adding features to make it more appealing for the gaming/emulation enthusiasts, but it’s not quite good enough for it, whilst needing more power and presumably generating more heat which makes it less useful for the tinkerers.

@Bootlickerkicker

9 ай бұрын

@@acra89dawg this isnt competing with a handheld brick 4 timed its price. Its a mini sbc for diy projects.

@AFourEyedGeek

9 ай бұрын

@@Bootlickerkicker Naa. RPi5 is extremely overpowered for many tasks that a Zero or Pico can do, but seriously under powered for many other tasks. This should have had greater performance and then released a Zero 3 for smaller sizes and lower powered tasks.

@all.day.day-dreamer

9 ай бұрын

@@AFourEyedGeek I agree, the Pi 5, the stats, make a lot less sense in 2023/24. I just don't see it being as wildly popular as with past models. Hopefully I am wrong but my gut feeling is usually right.

@acra89

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@Bootlickerkickerright, but you’re missing my point. They’re making massive improvements in running speed and graphics, but at the detriment of cost and efficiency - and in doing so are continuing down a path of making less efficient devices, but which still aren’t anywhere near perfect for the ‘new’ uses. Want a mini SBC for projects? Neat, but now you have one that is probably overpowered for what you need and is not all that efficient. Want to tinker and make an arcade emulator or something? Ok here’s more power, but it’s easy to get something far more capable for a little bit more. I use a Pi 4 for Pihole, DHCP, WireGuard VPN and tinkering - so I’m not anti pi by any means.

Thanks for an awesome review. I would love to see this running Batocera. Cheers! 🙂