This is the pinnacle of doing things on a budget whilst making sure its safe and proper. You guys are awesome 👍🏼

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!!

4:51 in the background "Days Since Last Incident : 34" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Tec screws for the battery mount are an issue boys. They will rattle out or shear. Please replace with bolts lock washers and nylock nuts. Great vid.

Bloody love this channel. The boys are doing projects for the normal bloke which is bloody relatable. Not like these other channels putting $14k of 12V and solar into a $130,000 brand new cruiser. Keep it up lads!

@biopsiesbeanieboos55

5 ай бұрын

130K is a base model LC.

@Candyman1996.e

5 ай бұрын

Or worse.... 20k battery set up in a car that's worth 30 in peak covid

@triggerhappy8872

5 ай бұрын

Yeh a $130K cruiser given to them for free & all the accessories fitted by every company for free too. Oh & don’t forget the free caravan worth $100K they tow along goat tracks & the bar-crusher boat. So outta touch with the average person.

@M3gsy42

5 ай бұрын

Haha, true stuff guy's, hence why I gave up watching them, overpriced & over cocky..

Love how simple you make it look. Only thing I'd do would br enclose the chargers in a small see through box, just to reduce anything touching the positive terminals and causing a short.

Awesome set up 👍 The only change I would do is change out the tek screws for M8 nutserts (ribnuts) with M8 bolts with spring washers. Tekies will eventually vibrate loose or snap.

Another awesome video lads. Great explanation on the full system

Awesome job guy's, love your work, keeping it simple but with awesome results. Keep the dream alive fellas..

Another Great Video Guys. Loving my 120 Ah lithium setup as well works great with the shunt.

You did an amazing job mate, your ability shouldnt be understated, so much potential. Really nice finish and performance.

Great job guys, love your vids!

Excellent utilisation of what otherwise is wasted space. Great tip on checking the factory wiring for improvements. I will have to check that on my rig myself. Good one Liam. 👍👌

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Fatman!!

Love the channel and watching your builds mare! 👌 Ctek charges are still my preferences after 14 years of using their charges. I fitted the same D250SE and Smartpass 120S in my camping rig to look after my batteries and it’s a game changer!

I don't know much about lithium batteries but we had two Optima AGM's batteries in the boat that lasted for 15+ years. Didn't use big chargers, just a 3.5 amp charger. Completely different application though and we had the time to charge up slowly, but they ran an electric winch and all the lighting/sounders/radios/vhf etc for all that time. Last I heard the ABYC ban the use of lithium on boats, lots of terrible outcomes. Great work on the fit out, but sometimes it's better to back off a little just to be safe.

Bloody good job, fellas

mate, another excellent video.i was surprised you could lay the battery flat and not upright.that in itself is a decider when buying new battery.you make your electrical setups look so easy. Again you lads have done it proud, keep up the videos,im sure a lot of us learn at least something from each video👍.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!!

Thanks for another awesome informative video! I don't have a 4by yet but I save the videos with mods I'd like to do when I get one. Keep up the great works guys!

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!

Great work mate ❤

Awesome, I love the video and how excited you get about the setup. I also love that you throw about $1,200 of CTEK and Victron chargers and shunts onto the $399 battery.

@grayzbildz

5 ай бұрын

About $750 for the ctek stuff and $170 for the smart shunt. Not bad value.

I love stuff done cheap. My 12 v system uses power tool batteries. Im never away for more than a few days and a couple of 4a/h power tool batteries do all I need. I'll be interested to see how your battery handles being out in the open. Great job

Really enjoyed watching that. Never seen one of your videos before, but will be watching more from now on. I dont know tons about auto electricals so i got alot out if this. Thanks.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! Welcome!! Cheers !

@Scotto99

3 ай бұрын

Exactly my same thoughts. Will attempt to do a system in my new Cannon, Cheaper than buying a battery box, but a little more work.

EXACTLY THE BATTERY 🔋 I WAS LOOKING AT ❤

Simple elegant system 9/10

Love what you guys do. Budget, fairdinkum but also realistic and proven based on real word results. Good work crew. Might add, don't bother with resetable circuit breakers, go old school. Mine died on a trip to Cape York, and ended having to rewire to continue the trip. Guessing vibrations.

Excellent. Been looking at those C-TEK units. They are really popular for normal battery chargers and make generally great kit. I do like that Victron shunt, too. I wondered about putting a re-settable breaker instead of the fuse. The fuse could blow at an inconvenient time, especially if you’re around water etc and breakers are now very common and well used in these applications. It’s not uncommon for older vehicles, which weren’t designed for leisure electrics to underperform in these areas as you’ve found out, not just on wiring. Upgrading your alternator might be one thing but the new battery will have a max charge rate anyway. Not sure if you mentioned what that is? Your alternator choice might also be limited if it’s only driven by one belt. Bigger units tend to need two belts. Keep the great work coming!!

Looks sick mate

Top video world have been great to see more in depth of the wiring though.

Would like to see a 12 month follow up review video. Love watch your content, keep up the good work.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Yeah we will definitely keep you updated with how it performs!

Another great video!!

Good video mate.

Nice work but beware the BMS in that Kings battery is only rated to charge at 25A. Thanks for the content. Cheers

@deefadale

19 күн бұрын

Pause at 0:39 and you can see that the battery label states a max charging current of 100A. Where did you get the 25A value from?

@cyclemoto8744

17 күн бұрын

@@deefadale sorry don't have a time machine to go back 4 months in time

Hey lads, I also recently purchased 2 x 100ah Slimline Kings Lithium. I'm really happy with them. I strapped them together and put them in series for a 24v trolling motor setup on the boat. I also had to make a tray as literally nobody sells a tray for the slim lines.

I used to have an 150amp alternator in my old gq used to charge so good

Tidy install guys, but at 50A+ charge current you'll cook that battery pretty fast, as the manufacturer recommends max charge current of 25A.

@Jess-xe8bq

3 ай бұрын

That is exactly why lithium’s burn. Can’t be extinguished easily either. Lucky it’s under the tray 👌

I like that smart shunt and the phone app...

34 days since the last incident nice, a good tip to keep safe is to pop your hands right next to the grinder, saw or drill press to stop the material that your working on from moving around

Nicely done. The quick charge is definitely worthwhile but check the max charging current on the Lithium - if you exceed that max charge current chances are the BMS in the battery will disconnect the battery...then no charging. If you put a small solar panel on the roof - 100 - 200W then the battery will be kept within safe limits when you park the vehicle for a few days. I imagine the two chargers, the shunt and other stuff will sip current 24/7 from the battery. Maybe you can fit a larger unit on the canopy when that comes?

Great video, good to see at end of video u coved the wiring . Was bit nervous at the start showing pair wires feeding threw grommets and all. I know ya guys do things correct I didn't dout for a second. Sick set up

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Oh hahaha yes that all got covered in conduit ! haha

Hey gents - great setup, just wanted to share my experience with high current charging. When I first put a bcdc1250 (50a) in my 105, I found it was also maxing out my alternators capacity at around 40-45a. Great for the lithium but it turns out it wasn't allowing the start battery to charge so it would keep going flat especially after driving at night. Hopefully you don't have the same issue but I'd get onto upgrading the alternator as soon as ya can. Cheers

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info nick! not to mention its alot of load on that poor old alternator

@user-ji2wu3lm8d

5 ай бұрын

One of the fun things about the SmartPass is that it'll trickle charge your starter from your lithium when you're parked up, and if that's not enough when you go to start the engine it'll just bridge the lithium in and let it help turn the engine over.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

@@user-ji2wu3lm8d Yeah it's a pretty cool backup system!

The two places ill never put a lithium battery on a 4x4 is under the bonnet or underneath the car , underneath them batterys don't like getting wet , stones and stakes hitting them if it gets damaged its a thermal bomb 😮 and i don't think ya insurance company will like it eather 🤔 I'd seriously look at changing that please , other than that you guys are the best 👍👍merry Christmas

Really good rundown of how to DIY a system! Only things I would be worried about is the effect of very high current charging on the lifespan of the battery - every battery prefers lower and slower (up to a point) and most commercial BMS limit amperage for that reason even if the battery can technically take more. BMS in the battery should try to protect it so I'll be interested if the BMS will fight you for overheating etc on a 100amp charge on a 40 degree day. Also the position of the battery and the bottom CTEK unit being low to the floor if you ever do take on water for whatever reason. Will be looking forward to how it does over time, if that battery location goes without a worry with normal use, vibration, puddles etc I think you have opened up a cool new option for a lot of single cab setups for those of us who wouldn't ever have to worry about a deep water crossing.

Another great DIY. You make it look so easy. I like that you guys are not brand snobs. I too have been using the Kings 120Ah (AGM) battery, 200W Solar blanket & 160W fixed solar panel for 5 yrs now and they're still going strong (touch wood). So when it's time to replace my AGM to a lithium, I have no issues using the Kings version. TIP: I'd recommend wrapping a bit of electrical tape at battery end of your split tubing to prevent it from moving and/or sliding. As over time this could potentially cause wear.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks HammerRocks! nice setup! definitely will be worth going to lithium when the AGM dies, it'll make a massive difference! Cheers

@acedogboy8421

5 ай бұрын

Kings are crap. Battery quality directly relates to cost. Cheap batteries are crap batteries.

@HammerRocks

5 ай бұрын

@@acedogboy8421 I beg to differ. I've had mine for 5 years and still going.

@acedogboy8421

5 ай бұрын

@@HammerRocks your a lucky one. Sounds like u look after ur batteries. But still i see a tonne of kings,amptech and neauton powers come in dead after 2-3 years.

Bloody love Sundays. Ripper A.A

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Cheers mate!

Awesome stuff. I’m looking at a 270ah alternator for my GU TD42

That’s exactly spot on mate. Kings lithium are fine but need good brand chargers etc to keep things in good cond.

Nice job….the only channel on youtube for the everyday person on a budget.

Great value and easily upgradeable for more switchable loads. Probably only add a 150A resetable circuit breaker in case you have to isolate things quickly. 👌🏼🤙🏼

@BenMitro

5 ай бұрын

...or just a stonking great isolator switch.

I would highly recommend mounting a fire extinguisher to the top of the back board if you don't already have one in the cab

Hi Liam, as soon as I heard you talk of 140Amp recharge alarm bells began ringing for me as Kings Lithium aren't rated for that recharge, other brands are (ex Itech) . Aren't you a tad concerned you're overdoing the charge rate as 25Amp is the recommended & 100Amp max, direct from Kings spec sheet below: Recommended Charge / Discharge 25A (0.25C) Max recharge current 100A Taking those figures into account, running at 50Amp is feasible. Just my thoughts. Just a tad concerned with water ingress with undertray mount. Should fully enclose by vented casing maybe. Regards, Wealie.

@davesparkz

5 ай бұрын

Going over the recommended 25a charge rate will just reduce the life of the battery, thats all. Going over the max charge of 100a could damage the battery though.

@franksteenhuisen7223

5 ай бұрын

Agree with this, a bit silly getting a lithium battery that’s main advantage is lifespan and then killing it prematurely with overly fast (or even too high) charge rate

Great video guys, add in the prices of all the materials so people get an accurate idea of what it would be like for their budget. Otherwise it’s a lack of transparency, people can sense it and it distances you from the audience - people will respond very well if you can tell them how much for the materials and where you go for them

Great stuff boys, big fan of the victron gear, my setup is mostly this gear also. BUT the origin DCDC just doesn't cut the mustard, I've got the 30amp version but rarely see it, mostly hovers around 25 :( The CTEKs units sound like the go!

Looks great, are you going to add some permanent anderson plugs to the outside of the ute? Maybe a small solar panel as well? Also would it be worth relocating your main fuse (dcdc to aux batt) from inside to as close as possible to your slimline? With the potential of sticks or whatever getting caught in those wires maybe put it at the battery Loving the content, your guys recent stuff has definitely been great

Great job 👍. And the fact you use king's stuff when all other you tubers get gifted stuff and then won't/don't use cheap stuff like king's. I've used a lot of stuff from them and it helped me get out there. If I was to purchase branded name's, then I'll be still saving.

I’d get rid of the smart pass! Pumping that much into a battery isn’t good for the battery or the alternator! 20A for a 100ah battery is perfect!👍

For your next camping mod or down the track should make your own canopy or something for storage. Keep up the good vids.

Nice one fellas, one thing to mention did you place a fuse at the battery side of the cable? i didnt see one, also didnt see any protection for the cable running back to the cab. A fuse close to the battery is a must. If there is a short on that cable (especially being a 4wd) it will end badly

Nice vid boys

Great work🔥, should start a fabrication shop up with all the cool shit that yous make

Awesome bro, lov your DIY videos, cool how your trying the cheaper kings gear and not bagging the shit out of it straight away, not everyone has arb/24/7 budgets

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

That's it! cheers louis!

Can I ask, did you upgrade your ground from the alternator too?

Good video lads , I have the smart pass 120s and the dcdc I can't charge over 20 amps , I have a 280amp alternator any advice

I have a question, isn't the 100ah King's Lithium battery limited to 100AMP Maximum recharge current? Doesn't that mean you'll be overcharging the battery with a new alternator?

Looks good, I would have liked if you had been more specific about the wires, clamps, and fuses you used.

Could you boys do a price rundown on things like this? Love your content cheers

nice job mate

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Cheers mate!

I see that battery's recommended charge current is 25A and maximum is 100. Even that recommended current is probably not ideal for life of the battery. So sure, if this is seen as a disposable, go ahead. Personally, I wouldn't risk that insane setup on my worst enemy!

Do you mind sharing the brand/ type of spray adhesive you used? The stuff I bought from Bunnings was completely useless

Nice work guys, having done this myself could I be so rude as to make a few suggestions which you may have already done. I’m not familiar with Ctech but using victron DC TO DC myself, can you delay the charge to the secondary battery for say 1 min or so?. This will give the alternator a chance to recover the start battery voltage before charging the secondary battery. Kinder on the alternator. Second and you’ve already said it, a larger alternator. This is because when I measured the temperature of my alternator it was becoming uncomfortably hot, and six months later I ended up having to change the bushes, and slip rings ( basically a rebuild) of the alternator, from pulling so much power. However, great system you’ve got. I also mounted a computer fan to the DC TO DC charger as holding back all that current that wants to flow to the lithium ( which has comparatively no internal resistance) does generate a fair bit of heat, this caused the DC TO DC charger to dial back the charge rate which is good but not what you’re aiming for . Hope this helps someone.

Pretty cool. Definitely nut and bolt that battery bracket... those teckies are the weak link.

Fuse on your second battery?

question on the thicker alternator cable install...... Did you leave the original cable connected to the back of the alternator after you added the new cable? Also I didnt see a vacc pump behind your alternator, Did you change the setup with that at some earlier stage?

I hope you put a fuse on both ends of the battery because the voltage can ho both ways from the main and also from the secondary battery

Love the backboard idea. Might have to borrow some of your ideas for my project. I thought the selling point of the Smartpass was to provide additional power when cranking the start battery? Will also trickle charge the start battery when the 2nd battery is full if you run constant solar.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it does that too!

What spray adhesive are you actually using to stick the carpet on? cheers guys

All good, but you wont charge at over 100amps - max discharge is 100Amps of that battery, and max charge will be similar - that 55amps is a perfect 0.5C charge for that battery and still way fast enough, so no need to waste money on a bigger alternator.

@billroach2393

5 ай бұрын

You beat me to saying that too.

@biopsiesbeanieboos55

5 ай бұрын

So battery capacity and battery charge rate are not necessarily related ? Am I understanding that correctly ?

@KevIsOffGrid

5 ай бұрын

@biopsiesbeanieboos55 no, they are linked. If you double that battery to 200ah it will take 200amps. Note that some BMSs are not equal charge/discharge and some may charge only at half the rate of discharge (BMS throttling not the cells unable to charge faster).

@biopsiesbeanieboos55

5 ай бұрын

@@KevIsOffGrid Clearly I don’t understand this topic as well as I thought 😊

@weriesblack1375

2 ай бұрын

Question is the main battery isolated from the system. I don't know anything about dc to dc chargers so can someone explain how the system is connected to get charge is it the altinator or onto the main bsttery with a disconnect at certain volts

Got a question, why not mount the battery behind the passenger seat, away from water and dirt? Wouldn’t that be safer and use lesser wires?

you might need to cut back the heat shrink under the lug @12:11 , looks like it might be preventing proper contact.

Nice setup, neat and simple. The system draws a lot of amps to charge a battery, what have you done to disable the 12v system so you can use a winch? Another thirsty unit

Just curious why you wouldn't put battery in a inclosed box and use grommets for cable making it totally seal able from elements. Lithium don't need venting although dont like heat either.

Da bois are back 🎉

Great vid, nice clean install. If you notice any irregularities with your shunt, you might want to move it closer to the battery, but it should be fine. I'd say 50 amps is a great charge rate for those batteries. Although they may be rated for a higher charge rate, it's best to stick to a batteries recommended charge rate, roughly half of max charge as a rule of thumb, to get the most life out of it. Also I'm curious about that idle up dial? Is it factory ? Wouldn't mind one on my TD

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info Will! it's a factory hand throttle, very handy! cheers

Lipo batteries burn at over 2000deg C. Make sure you have that battery protected so you don't get a hole poked into the cells, and your system fused. I have just bough a kings battery, the same (great price) and wired it in parallel with another battery of the same specs to give me 200Ah discharge as I found 100Ah was great to run my fridge but not much else.

Can you please cover earthing in more details?

Max charge on that battery is 100A, Kings Recommend only 25A charge rate to get the most life from it, the higher the charge on a Lithium the shorter the life of the battery.

@michaellieberman2270

14 күн бұрын

Yes you will cook that battery very quickly with 100amp charge. Purchase a better quality battery with a higher max charge rate and the system will also have longevity. I have the exact same setup of CTEK in my van.

I would say your limitation would be the BMS in the battery. Would be interested to hear if anyone else with a king slimline has been able to get 100amps into it.

What is the limitation on the amount of amps the battery can receive? Pointless getting a bigger alternator if the battery cant take more than 50 Amps?

goolge lithium reacting in water, pretty neat stuff to have happen under your tray.

Do you have to have your door open to plug in your solar?

I'm not ashamed to say that young people half my age can be smarter...I wouldn't mind picking these boys brains and learn something. Awesome video boys.

Who did you fight to get your gear?

Hey gents, any chance of that battery catching fire if water gets in to it or if it gets damaged by a rock or something?

keeping battery closest to charger as possible reduces cable size required which I’m sure you’re aware of. How come you didn’t mount battery closer to front of the tray? Charging at 100amp all the time if possible would only degrade battery quicker compared to charging at whit it currently is of 50amp

Love your videos

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks mate !

What was the cost of that setup

I don't want to be that guy, but... It's "dual" not duel! The batteries don't need to challenge each other to the death! They don't need jousting sticks either 😊 Love your work.

@diggeroldmate8122

5 ай бұрын

nah do it, it's basic Engrish and that.

Any concerns about exposing lithium to water? Also, Im not great with electronics.. so excuse my ignorance here.. id be keen to understand if your starter battery will be insufficently charged with such a small output alternator, and other accessories youre running, i.e. lights, winch, electronics etc

Ive done really similar but different. I ended up cooking the alternator which was no surprise. I upgraded to a 150amp alternator and not im blowing a fusible link. Im certain its the alternator signal wire. Im pretty sure as now I can pump 150amps into the batteries the 80amp fusible link is saying yeah now way buddy. When batteries are fully charged I have no issues. When they drop to 75% my fusible link says no. Something to plan for.

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info! awesome

@mrheldify

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree, you'll cook that alternator but you'll be upgrading anyway. Get a big quality alternator. You may also run into the problem that your main battery won't be getting replenished quick enough in certain sutuations as the 2nd battery may be hogging the power. Just something to think about. Great video guys. I have the ctek charging my lithium too and have been pondering buying the smart pass too. So I will follow your build for updates.

Hey guys. I know you’re the budget kings so I’ve heard of this locker brand called LTG4x4. E lockers that seem to be better than Harrop. Cheaper too. Might be interesting to look into

Recommended Charge / Discharge 25A

@AussieArvos

5 ай бұрын

It's a cheap battery, but we will keep yous updated and see how long it lasts!

just a quick note why did CTEK reccomend a 300 amp fuse? a fuse is meant to be the weakest point in a system so that if there is a short and amps overcurrent, the fuse blows and not the less rated wiring and anyway 160amp (140 +20 amp) x 1.25 is a recommended =200amps.