Deathwatch as the single worst faction in the game getting nothing is a huge nerf IMO, other armies around them or above them have now got better. Also Custodes, we all know the codex is a GIANT nerf, their detachments are all much worse than the index and many datasheets got nerfed as well, and their points basically stayed the same aside a few characters.

Even if other armies have improved, the most underwhelming is tyranids for the lack of solutions provided

IK really needed some points decreases to at least make up for the agents nerfs.

@Wes-xk6hl

2 ай бұрын

Yea they clearly don't care about imperial knights. And it wouldnt matter if they did because every single time they actually try to make them good, the toxic community loses their minds until they're dead again

I’m quite ok with the Aeldari nerfs we got some very needed buffs in other areas

@Ezcendant

Ай бұрын

No we didn't. Banshees and spears will still never see play competitively. Guardians will only see rare use in the cases they already saw rare use.

@ProxyHammer1

Ай бұрын

@@Ezcendant Storm guardians have already seen play several times in winning tournament lists, spears will probably never see the light of day but only due to how they interact with terrain.

At least a nerf is something, Deathwatch still got nothing 😢

I have been finding imperial guard absolutely painful to go up against with space marines, 4 Leman russ demolishers and X3 of the indirect fire of the day can Blast units off the board every turn while being really hard to take down, Im about 0/20 against guard

c'tan shards too took long to get a points increase and should still go up or receive a datasheet change. Any unit that is t11 with an 4+invuln, a 5+fnp, AND halves all damage is inherently broken.

There a lot of units/ armies which didnt get any attension. It seems like these are units where points arent an appropriate fix. To give an example. Reivers - these migjt be taken at 65ppm. But that isnt an ok fix. They need a rules change to be useful.

@RevanR

2 ай бұрын

Reivers's rule need to be overhauled. With their positions are being contested by scout squad, they need to to be reinvented as early objective grabber or warlord slayer

@henrycarpmael9298

2 ай бұрын

65 points per model?! But yes reiver sad

@nationalsocialism3504

2 ай бұрын

That's outside the scope of this Balance pass... Ruleset changes like that will be on the next Balance pass in the summer. They are trying to do alternate Balance pass being Points for one then Rules (with some slight Point changes) on the next.

Idk about Hypercrypt going down. Interested in running more destroyers in Hypercrypt.

They finally got smart and nerfed crusaders. Some definite nerfs overall to sisters but I think we can pivot well. The real test will be orks of course.

There's no "arguably" about Necron performance. They were absolutely the best, winning more events than any other faction, taking 28 of them. The 2nd best was Grey Knights at 11. Yes, they were consistently winning. There was not a single weekend since the last data-slate that they did not win at least 1 event. None of their detachments were below 50%, but Canoptek Court and Hypercrypt were above the threshold of acceptable at 62% and 57% respectively. And honestly, they're still going to be one of the top factions. The nerfs they received were relatively minor, and one of their most problematic units in wraiths went totally untouched. Maybe they lose a model or swap one out for something cheaper, but they will remain largely the same power level wise.

Great video!

It was even handed as you said but the changes will hardly change the meta

@UltraMeanMarines

Ай бұрын

The meta is going to change considerably with Tau, Orks and Custodes all getting huge changes. We are approaching a horde/fight phase meta this time out.

I would argue deathwatch was the most nerfed….

I had the misfortune of playing versus aeldari this morning and it was a slaughter. My poor norn assimilators didn't stand a chance. Points aren't the issue with the army, they just have some insanity good mechanics and nearly every special rule and dice manipulation possible to annihilate nearly anything on the battlefield. The bane of my experience this game were these tiny little models that get back up regardless being nai unkillable, worse than necrons, with those ridiculously overpowered ap 4, d6 damage, melta 6 weapons. I personally play tyranid and aeldari really make me feel the special rule disparity of the Tyranid Codex to a whole new higher degree. Just some measley point changes aren't gonna nerf them, rules changes are the only thing that will. Or a significant buff to my faction and other factions that can't compete.

Me who using vindicare to snipe warlords ha ny list aont change at all

So the ctan shards drop like 10-15 points take a scarab squad less and have the same amount of ctans?

@Darkaran1

2 ай бұрын

Sounds fair to me, scarabs are the one winning me the games, not the nightbringer I put in because it's scary but actually does nothing

As an elder player, Im okay with the changes - won't affect my lists but is good for the balance of the faction!

So many bugs!

Aeldari get nerfed: r/Eldar "That's fair."

Aeldari nerf took too long, rules are completely broken. Dice of fate needs to be removed entirely.

@maxmagnus377

Ай бұрын

Why? Sisters miracle dice don't get anywhere near as much hate. I think this is another overall slight nerf of a faction that barely went over a 50% winrate since the last nerfs. According to Den of Fools latest video they had a 50.1% overall winrate since the last dataslate. Gonna have to wait and see if this latest nerf is impactful, but it really didn't seem all that called for to nerf a faction that by most metrics was the most perfectly balanced in the meta before this new MFM.

iG gonna drop to 38% winrate 😢

@georgehutley

2 ай бұрын

No they won't...

@Crunch2327

2 ай бұрын

Nah, they're good. Balanced lists are fine, pure infantry weren't touched, and now, well 12 russ lists are a thing.

@nationalsocialism3504

2 ай бұрын

Only the janky Imperial Guard netlist got hammered... if you aren't playing that specific netlist that was used to win a Super GT then it's probably a buff for the majority of players.

But enough about Eldar's rights. It's time to talk about Eldars wrongs. Eldar deserve less.

Can we talk about the elephant in the room? Why did they nerf the second to last ranked army, Blood Angels, seriously!?!? The army is struggling as is, and they hit them pretty hard this time around.

@TacticalTortoise

Ай бұрын

Sons of Sanguinius was performing incredibly well at the end of the season

@MrHoneuma

Ай бұрын

No? Sons of Sanguinius, Stormlance, and Ironstorm were all doing good. The nerfs to death company and lemartes are because there's not much they can't destroy with their weapon options. They've got options for flamer, melta, and plasma pistols, and every single one of them can also take either a power fist or thunderhammer. They have full rerolls to hit and a 6+fnp with either a free reroll to charge for the jump pack, or sustained hits if they lose a model. In Sons of Sanguinius, you're looking at a unit capable of theoretically doing up to 130 damage in a turn at the upper limit. 10 inferno pistols and 10 powerfists, going to 40 str 10 hits on the charge, with access to lethal hits and/or lance depending on leader or stratagem.

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