Diamond armor, the only thing to surpass golden ammo

@ogzephyr4166

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a golden sabot round, would probably just obliterate itself on impact though

@neptunium_239

Жыл бұрын

graphene

@notsureyou

Жыл бұрын

How does it compare to "Plot Armor"?

@burningtank160

Жыл бұрын

a weapon to surpass metal gear

@Bialy_1

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn't you first learn the very basics about the topic you are trying to speculate? For example the basic info about the gold? Its density and how ressistant it is chemicaly... How exactly the golden sabot will be obliterated when its almost as dense as uranium and contrary to uranium its not very chemicaly active(the main reason why this metal earned its special position in human history...). Carbon steel's density is about 7.84 g/cm3 and gold density is 19.3 g/cm3. So if you gonna make a sabot out of it and shot it 1800m/s then steel gonna have plenty of trouble with the whole "obliteration" theory that you presented here... and particles lost via impact you will be easly able to recover as gold do not like to oxydate/rust or create any chemical bonds with the stuff that its expected to interact with in this type of situation.

Now just enchant it with Protection IV (or Projectile Protection IV) and Unbreaking V to make it extremely durable.

@ilyaa2010

Жыл бұрын

you forgot mending bro

@kingzyjhiepelongco3593

Жыл бұрын

You can use Blast Protection too

@VIONICK08

Жыл бұрын

please don't propose it to wargaming

@Leopahd

Жыл бұрын

@@ilyaa2010 you cant enchant mending together with unbreaking. But agree should be mending

@urLocal_meme_dealer

Жыл бұрын

smh just upgrade it to netherite

in all reality, the diamond would most likely shatter, or at least a ton of cracks would appear, allowing for subsequent projectiles to easily destroy it.

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.

@rudolphknoetze1487

Жыл бұрын

Just add durability V an projectile protection V and youl be fine...

@ace74909

Жыл бұрын

​@@rudolphknoetze1487sir this isn't mine-

@RichestTea

Жыл бұрын

Unless you hold it in a matrix that prevents the shards from dispersing, and at this point, the conversation becomes classified.

@SaraHeartlin

11 ай бұрын

Did you remember that modern armor are layered for a reason right? They even use glass in them. The trick Is not stop the bullet. Its sloving It enough for the next layers to cathc it

Could you try another materials such as Boron ceramics (Carbide, Nitride) or another allotropes of carbon such as Amorphous Carbon or Reinforced Carbon Carbon?

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Sounds great!! But it seems difficult to model them because their fracture mechanisms are more complicated than isotropic and homogeneous materials I've been using.

@yourpaldeebs261

Жыл бұрын

ah, a fellow children of a dead earth enjoyer

@ravazoid469

Жыл бұрын

You could do more metals like titanium as a hard one, or maybe gold as a really weak one but still expensive. I would love to see those.

@onearthonelegion

Жыл бұрын

And what about sausages!

@justsomepersonyoudontknow8401

Жыл бұрын

@@onearthonelegion bre i think it would take 200000mm thick sausages to tank average apfsds round

Wow, I didn‘t expect that it can‘t penetrate the diamond armor. But of course, diamond is incredibly hard.

@chanmyaezaw

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it shatters instead

@petravandenberg70

Жыл бұрын

Want to know what’s also incredibly hard 😏

@ChessWyrm

Жыл бұрын

Your mom?

@Elbowbanditest2003

Жыл бұрын

@@petravandenberg70 Ruby is pretty hard

@alicorn3924

Жыл бұрын

@@Sukulieh I hate swords, spears are much better, for CQC I prefer really sharp but small rods that can also be concealed rather easily

Great, since diamond has only 3.52 specific weight, that is the right armor to go!

@NK-qn6pq

Жыл бұрын

According to Minecraft you are correct...

@tacticalturtlez4906

4 ай бұрын

@@NK-qn6pqnice NC pfp.

Maybe some composite setup with different materials would be interesting, just to see the different performance of things like ceramics, rubber, plastic, just steel or diamond.

remember one of the best ways to fight fire is fire. if someone will create a tank out of diamond armor, someone will create diamond shells for it.

Did you account for diamonds brittle properties or is the amount of errosion of the armor only based on how much the impact pressure exceeds diamonds compressive stength?

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Strictly speaking, I took a brittle material property of concrete material and updated it to match the diamond material (diamond compressive strength).

@tedarcher9120

Жыл бұрын

@@militarysimulationlab wouldn't the tensile strength be more relevant in case of armor though?

@Boomchacle

Жыл бұрын

@@tedarcher9120 It's a super high speed impact so toughness plays a large factor I think.

@LordOceanus

Жыл бұрын

@@tedarcher9120 Tensile strength would stop the cracks propagating in the armor but the toughness is what matters for deforming and halting the projectile

@petersmythe6462

Жыл бұрын

Glass textolite is a thing so preventing a brittle material from shattering isn't impossible. Especially if it's sandwiched between metal plates.

If it's a solid sheet then it'd be useless, also tool diamonds are like 15k/tonne which is cheaper than ceramic armour at like 35k/tonne. But the arrangement is key.

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment 😃

@antaresmc4407

Жыл бұрын

Large, solid plates of polycrystalline diamond are way more expensive than any ceramic, mainly because theres no machine that can grow them. It's easy to make drill bit sized pieces of decent quality, but a full armor plate would be a feat of engineering. And while it is true a solid sheet would be useless, it's arguably the best material for that pound for pound, with extreme hardness and stuffness, low density (compared to metals) and great toughness (for a ceramic, lol). A solid sheet of anything is useless against modern projectiles... On another note, I can imagine the massive spalling after that hit lol

@osmacar5331

Жыл бұрын

@@antaresmc4407 read my comment again and maybe redact this major case of WoT player syndrome.

@antaresmc4407

Жыл бұрын

@@osmacar5331 i have, just expanded on it and corrected or added context to some points... Anything wrong? And I don't play WoT nor know what do you mean by that, but it looks like a personal attack, to which I'd thank if discussion is kept civil and productive...

@osmacar5331

Жыл бұрын

@@antaresmc4407 you didn't expand on anything.

Thoughts from my childhood brought to life ♡ thank you

I'd love to see other more rare elements and metals used in armor simulations like this this is so cool I wonder if you could come up with some super armor xD

@russianyoutube

Жыл бұрын

Aluminium armor. Armor, that can be penetrated by a machine gun.

Shouldn't the diamond shatter though? As far as I'm aware you can shatter a diamond with a normal hammer, a penetrator like this should smash it.

@kitwheldon7942

Жыл бұрын

@@Verradonairun yes the diamond is mushrooming and bending something metals would do but not at all how nonmetals act

@Breakbrak

Жыл бұрын

no, you can't break a diamond with a hammer

@everettwilliams4194

Жыл бұрын

@@Breakbrak Yes you can

@Pihnes

Жыл бұрын

@@Breakbrak easily. it's not much different from glass.

@zoroverse8358

Жыл бұрын

And on top of that, the immense heat would cause it to evaporate into CO2

Imagine driving a fucking diamond tank. Like, how pimp my ride do you want it be? - Yes.

Thanks for taking up my comment. This is the most effective armor.

Remember: diamonds don’t scratch easy but they do shatter easy

@llamallama1509

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. There's no way that armour wouldn't have shattered

Interesting... But jewelers split diamonds in their workshops. And they do not need armor-piercing shells with a speed of 1800 m/s for this. A paradox...

@samuelmendoza9356

Жыл бұрын

AIUI, they are grinding the diamonds thanks to its brittleness.

@Asbestos_

Жыл бұрын

@@samuelmendoza9356 no. Diamond is resistant to grinding. That's why they use it on drills. Diamond can't handle pressure. It shatters if you try to somehow bend it's structure. You can shatter a diamond with a pretty weak smack with a hammer on it's pointy side

@wedmunds

Жыл бұрын

Diamonds are weak to sharp indentations like chisels and strong against blunt force like shells.

@tatotaytoman5934

Жыл бұрын

@@Asbestos_ like how glass is quite hard but brittle as shit

@Bialy_1

Жыл бұрын

@@tatotaytoman5934 "Mohs hardness, rough measure of the resistance of a smooth surface to scratching or abrasion, expressed in terms of a scale devised (1812) by the German mineralogist Friedrich Mohs. The Mohs hardness of a mineral is determined by observing whether its surface is scratched by a substance of known or defined hardness. To give numerical values to this physical property, minerals are ranked along the Mohs scale, which is composed of 10 minerals that have been given arbitrary hardness values." The number 10 is diamond... and glass is only 5.5. And no its not very brittle the idea with smacking it with a hammer will gonna only work with some dimonds that have deffects inside, in fact i remember some story about something similar to this method that was used in old times to cheat people as someone was testing wit hammer diamonds and then claiming that the ones that broke were fake so he did not paid for them but he was gatherubg the broken parts after the seller was gone with the money that he got from diamonds that did not broke.

Dorchester moment. Put 25mm of silicon carbide infront of the steel. See if it stops penetration. It has a Mohs hardness of 9.5

I think the mesh count is a bit too low and this simulation didn't take fractures into account. It would be great if diamonds are this malleable

@Frenchfrys17

Жыл бұрын

I think the simulation accounted for each of the visible cubes to be independent from each other. You wouldn't be able to make such a large block of diamond anyways.

@CrazyDutchguys

Жыл бұрын

@@Frenchfrys17 I wonder though, we can already make our own diamonds. With enough time and the right technology, it should be theoretically possible to make giant diamond slabs

@Frenchfrys17

Жыл бұрын

​@@CrazyDutchguys Diamond has a density of 3.5 g/cm^3. That's less than half the weight of RHA steel (7.84 g/cm^3) and a bit heavier than aluminum (2.7 g/cm^3) or silicon carbide (3.2 g/cm^3). However diamond is in another league of hardness compared to silicon carbide. I suspect that diamond along with boron nitride might already be in use in modern composite armor for the latest tanks. They would be closer to the front of the armor array while a steel backplate along with interwoven mesh would be used hold the hard but brittle diamond/boron nitride in place upon impact. The goal would be to force the projectile to shatter the diamond/boron nitride in front of it to as fine of a powder as possible without the material being pushed to the side. This results in the projectile spending a tremendous amount of energy and thus shattering and slowing down itself.

@deathdragon2283

Жыл бұрын

@@Frenchfrys17 AMAP armor packages that are fitted to new leopard 2s are advertised as using new nano ceramics in their add on modules, so we’ve definitely got some very fancy ceramic materials in tank armor. I also remember there being rumors about the leclerc using polycrystalline diamond in its armor array, but that hasn’t been confirmed. I remember an article that described the ceramic array used in either the leopard 2 or the Abrams, and it didn’t use a interwoven support. Instead the ceramic nodules were glued and pressed into a titanium matrix in order to hold the ceramics under compression. They also talked about pressing a thin metal plate over the front to hold it compression in all axis. This ceramic array would be mounted to a stiff metal backplate via an elastic layer for shock absorption. The metal backplate was needed to prevent the ceramics matrix from seriously deforming, which would shatter the ceramics. Aluminum or titanium would be better than steel for this, simply because it’s primary role is keeping the ceramic array from being entirely destroyed upon being struck. Mounting the ceramics to a flexible woven backing can also prevent the deformation of the entire ceramic module, but you can’t easily hold the ceramics under compression when using such a support.

@deathdragon2283

Жыл бұрын

Also supposedly the Abrams uses steel that’s reinforced with silicon carbide fibers

The most expensive simulation test ever!

Everybody gangsta until Russia uses netherite

@user-rs1in3ge2y

Жыл бұрын

*terrorussia

@italktroll2856

Жыл бұрын

Oh no

@Tox1q_MT

2 ай бұрын

@@user-rs1in3ge2y hryukni

I think diamond would burn into CO2...🤔

@Spanky00Cheeks

Жыл бұрын

You’d need to give it time to react with ambient air. This is happening so fast that there isn’t enough o2 to readily available for it to burn much. I think.

@Storlans

Жыл бұрын

@@Spanky00Cheeks the heat of the round hitting the diamond would burn it, its why you need so much cooling when using diamond as a cutter.

@Spanky00Cheeks

Жыл бұрын

@@Storlans you cut with a diamond for entire seconds, if not minutes or hours. This collision happens in 1/500 of a second. There isn’t time for thermal conduction, or much burning (reacting with o2). The shattered parts flying away will have hot parts, and some parts of it will “eventually” burn. Go watch a fire at this level of slow motion. Its super slow.

@Bialy_1

Жыл бұрын

@@Storlans heh, nice colection of people that have no idea what they are talking about. Diamond do not gonna burn in high temperature->that is why they are used in for example high speed concrete cuting discs... They like to disolve in steel(as they are from carbon and steel is iron+carbon) when the temperature is high so if you planing to cut anything from steel with diamond then the cooling will be a very good idea.

@Bialy_1

Жыл бұрын

@@Spanky00Cheeks nothing gonna "eventually" burn... diamods are not chemicaly active->carbon in diamond have no free electrons to make a bond with other elements...

Diamond armor is a good idea for protection, but bad for the budget😅

@marczhu7473

Жыл бұрын

And vulnerable to incendiary weapon (as it's just pure carbon like coal)

@MrDJAK777

Жыл бұрын

​@@marczhu7473 but just like it's other natural form, graphite, when solid/sufficient amount isn't all that flammable in open air and doesn't burn anything like coal. requires an oxygen rich/ or high airflow environment to burn much at all, as the CO/CO2 released as temperature increases will smother/cool it. we use graphite for crucibles and nuclear reactors for a reason.

@tacticalturtlez4906

4 ай бұрын

Actually it’s horrible for protection. There’s a reason diamond tools are typically things like drill bits rather than axe blades. High energy impacts shatter diamond, but due to its hardness, diamond is excellent for cutting things. it would be useful as serrated teeth on a blade but the blade itself is still better made with steel, and having a steel tip.

@PurpleBossonius

4 ай бұрын

it can still make for excellent composite armor though, an idea is 20mm steel -> diamond plate -> polymer lining to prevent disintegration -> 50mm steel -> rubber spall lining@@tacticalturtlez4906

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@omegalongdong

4 ай бұрын

Active protection system left the chat

@Troll73778

4 ай бұрын

​@@omegalongdongI'm assuming you are thinking of the trophy system. Most HE and HESH projectiles are too fast for it to react.

A lot of people pointed out that diamond is brittle, however there is a natural diamond ceramic like material called Carbonado, made from sub micron sized nanodiamonds. It is hard as Diamond but far tougher. "In collaboration with Jaing Qian at the Los Alamos National Laboratory we have attempted to determine both hardness and fracture toughness on carbonado. These measurements require a flat polished surface. Only three of fifteen samples submitted were partially prepared before the diamond polisher “quit”, complaining that his platen had been ruined! Hardness data were obtained with the following results: CAR-1 = 122.6 GPa; CAR-2 = 72.2 GPa; and CAR-3 = 95.1 GPa. The typical hardness range for gem quality."

I've always imagined the comfort and safety of armored vehicles. Everytime i visit museums and touch a tank you can just feel its solid protection. The thing that always frightened me is when you see the museum pieces that saw action and are damaged. For something so tough to be carved out by something seemingly small has always amazed me.

Very interesting thank you.

Just imagine what could happen if humanity found out how to create diamonds with technology

This reminds me of Ferro-Fibrous armor from the Battletech Sci-Fi universe. Ferro-Fibrous armor is comprised of what are essentially fibers of Iron and Diamond. It's supposed to be light but durable (at the cost of volume and increased manufacturing costs). It's also ablative in nature.

@Tequila628

Жыл бұрын

Oh, a man of culture! Salute, fellow mechwarrior!

@chaz706

Жыл бұрын

@@Tequila628 o7

Diamond armor for all tanks! Given the cost of making plates of pure diamond, I think each country will be able to outfit three or four tanks. And then they'll be so valuable no one would dare use them in combat. World peace ensues!

did better than I expected actually.

Very nice

Cool, a diamond tank! Wouldn't fancy this one in cold weather.

Hollywood cant even make this kind of quality video.

When replacement of material lost to stop a penetration cost more than arming an entire armored tactical group

Battletech's mechs actually use ablative composites with interweaved diamond fibers. Cool to see that it might ablate just like in the lore!

@contemptordreadnought

Жыл бұрын

Why not simulate a plate from a battletech with layers of ceramic and diamond rods going through the ceramic

Im sure wg will see this and release some premium tier 8 tank that is made out of diamonds. that even jgpze100 with heat cant pen frontally

shine bright like a diamond

I always think these simulations end too early, before the projectile has stopped moving. I'd like to see them continuing for a couple of seconds after the projectile has come to rest.

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment. The reason is it takes a lot of time for this computation🤔 Let me include some more in the next vid.

While diamond is totally out of reach, it is technically possible to build aluminium oxide (aka sapphire) plating. Would like to see it simulated

@abbc5156

Жыл бұрын

would be also interesting how it performs as layers in a composite armor

Great now G.Is would take the pieces and make their own rings of engagement at the fraction of the cost

@confuseatronica

Жыл бұрын

one knocked out tank would tank the diamond jewelry market forever hee Although I guess DeBeers would assassinate everyone involved before that could happen.

I didn't know all of the world's greatest materials scientists were here on KZread! 😂

*lights up cigar* *in a raspy, deep voice* just like minecraft...

Fun fact by definition a diamond is a molecule this is why it's so hard the reason for this is that carbon naturally has 4 valence electrons meaning it can bond with 4 different atoms so what happens is these carbon atoms arrange into these matrices wherein a single carbon atom is bonded to 4 others so these carbon matrices are actually a single molecule and include carbon nano tubes etc what causes these different variations is entirely dependant on the conditions when these carbon matrices form in the case of diamonds the carbon was at such heats as to melt it and under enough pressure to force the carbon to align perfect into a matrix as it cooled and those atoms settled down into place but idk just something I individually hypothesized and then verified by my professor in college material science is pretty cool when you get into how matrices of atoms can cause very different material properties like how ferrum can be changed so much based off of the tiniest percentages of other materials being added into the mixture to offset grain boundaries etc idk guys crack a few books in your free time or study on your phone instead of memes from time to time you literally have access to the sum of human knowledge 24/7 in your pocket it'd be a waste not to use it

Diamonds can now be grown in laboratories in big quantities. So this maybe used in future composite armors for people and vehicles.

This looks like what the ceramic plates inside many composite armors are supposed to do.

What software do you use? And how easy is it to get into for the layperson?

Now that diamond can be created artificially in flat plates, they could just stick a layer of it on the outside of current composite armor and have a tank which costs more than a fighter jet and has 1/10 the range and 1/100 the speed of one.

The T-64A tank uses similar solution. Corundum spheres which almost hard as diamond allocated in front side armor of turret

Russian oligarch: if i swap the diamonds for glass and buy some yachts with the money

Could you, theoretically, also do high caliber heat or he? Would like to see if a big enough blast would crack it

I think everyone has wondered about this at some point

i would like to see graphene next it seemed interesting as tank armor

You usually never wanna have armor harder than your ammunition cause it can shatter rather than bending and spalling can be a big issue

Apfsds-c-bc made of diamond with carbon fibre jacket? Love to see that

“Why do you need so many Diamonds for, dude share! We need some too!” What Bro is saving up for:

What if you did a simulation where the long rod penetrator had a (pointed) diamond tip and tested it against various WW2/Modern armours?

@lukandrate9866

Жыл бұрын

Underrated idea

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So cool

I hope you'll do bone armor a lot of scifi aliens seem to use bone/chitin I've always wondered whether tyranid armor actually afforded protection or not

I always imagined about this diamond armour when i was a kid.

There was saphire armour ( Al-2 O-3) on soviet tanks, sperical shaped pieces of saphire in turret armour.

I have also wondered what would it be like if you put diamond in composite armor with steel and other material. I even had AI write something about diamond composite armor on a fictional MBT i created and the results was interesting.

Do this with osmium, the densest metal.

I only can imagine about the crew and the troops going to search diamonds after a fight XD

In real, a solid diamond piece that thick won’t even scratch a bit

Diamond is a very hard but not bendable thing like glass meaning if you crack it, it’s very easy to break

01:06 this new minecraft mod looks interesting

Wonder how this would work as a fine diamond rock filler inside composite spaced armor array like the Leopard 2 and such. Would it eat away at the penetrator to the point that it actually improves protection?

It would be interesting to see a simulation for iridium.

Since lab-grown diamonds are getting pretty common now, I wonder if diamonds could be added inside an armour composition in the future?

Seems that the armour plating of Mass Effects’ Normandy ship has some merit to it

An ideal diamond lattice, made out of pure carbon 12, has the (insanely) highest thermal conductivity. Therefore, such armor material could absorb and distribute a shaped charge. Could you please do a simulation where the diamond is divided into several layers, each of which is backed by rubber, which is then backed by a thin metal plate? This is in the style of the cheek armor on the internal version of the Russian Republic's T-72. So much of the rod's material sprays above the surface and above the vector of the rod's motion.

@LocPH.

Жыл бұрын

Thermal conductivity has nothing to do with shaped charge. They are kinetic energy penetrators and do NOT melt anything.

I think we're gonna see some pretty wild graphene alloys in the near future, keeping carbon as the king.

Can you simulate a 50mm RHA at 85° and see if it can "bounce" a modern apdfs?

@rivvabear9748

Жыл бұрын

Getting StrV 103 vibes here

Ferb, I know what we are going to do today...

i like that its made of diamond blocks

All you have to do is make an APFDS dart out of Lonsdaleite which is 58% harder than normal cubic lattice structured diamond but you’ll have to wait for a big meteorite to strike the earth because that’s the only way it is made.

Achievement unlocked: Cover Me with Diamonds!

They already use synthetic sapphire in tank armor, Its layered rather than a solid mass, The projectile energy is absorbed when the sheets break.

What is feels like to shoot at premium vehicles in War Thunder

Wait did it model the diamonds specifically as a bunch of little blocks and not the other materials?

I feel like diamond would just shatter

so if an enemy tank is near I just need to craft a diamond chestplate right?

Even the most developed country still haven't gotten Netherite armor.

Dr Farnsworth is going to be mad that his diamondium didn't hold up!

Diamond is even harder than tungsten. I believe it would bounce a lot of shells before even cracking

The problem in armor development is that armor piercing projectiles are a lot more dense than an armor it is meant to penetrate. It is equivalent of sticking your finger into a gel. It simply lacks cohesion to blunt and to stop projectile. We do not use denser materials due to their a lot higher weight. Tungsten is not used due to its expense and we still are not technologically advanced enough for diamond sheets. Furthermore, lack of inexpensive machinining tools is also a problem. It is a lot easier to industrially mold aluminium armor than an armor made out of diamonds. With what you even cut it to begin with? We need to develop more sophisticated materials and material manufacturing capabilities in order to replace quite soft RHA steel. Preferably with tungsten armor at first.

What about iridium, like the hover tanks in Dravid Drake's book Hammer's Slammers?

Honestly I thought the diamond would just shatter

What would be the wheigt on diamond plated pansar shield? I heard that the largest diamonds Floating around in magma under Us.

Wouldn't the armor made of platinum group metals be more expensive? Like Iridium armor, for example.

Funny how people thing Diamond is this invincible indestructible material when it can shatter like glass

Hi bro, which software you have used for these simulations? These simulations are highly realistic and i am very impressed by your skills. You deserve millions of subscribers for such a nice piece of work.

@militarysimulationlab

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your nice comment. LS-dyna, ANSYS, ABAQUS are typical one.

@sameerabbas3791

Жыл бұрын

@@militarysimulationlab Thanks a lot for your kind reply 👍

Hardness does not equal sturdiness. No matter what metal you use, you will not be able to cause a scratch in a diamond, but you can easily shatter it with a hammer.

i'd love to see uranium armor plate simulation

Would be intressting what Graphen could do

Are the results not effective by the width of the plate? I see how it begins bulging out the sides, but with more metal surrounded it, that would be reduced?

@BorrderCollie

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure it's cut out only visually