The Magic In The Mix Bus (MAKE or BREAK your mix)
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The Mix Bus is one of the most important parts of your mix!
You don't need to over do it, but using the right pieces of gear or plugins can be the difference between a successful mix, and an absolute failure. I'm going to show you my full mix bus chain and how I approach processing the mix with these amazing tools!
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(0:00) The Magic In The Mix Bus
(1:05) Elysia X FIlter
(2:11) Rupert Neve Designs 542 Tape Emulators
(3:23) Stam 4K Gcomp Clone
(4:17) SSL Fusion: High Pass Filter
(4:40) SSL Fusion: Vintage Drive
(4:51) SSL Fusion: Violet EQ
(5:28) SSL Fusion: High Frequency Compressor
(5:53) SSL Fusion: Stereo Image
(6:38) SSL Fusion: Transformer
(7:15) Full Mix Bus Bypass Comparison
(7:52) Final Thoughts
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crucial point here is that the mix is already very clean, crisp and balanced before going into the analog chain (massive props to you dude), it's not a way to fix issues if the mix is unbalanced/muddy/flat etc.
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Casey! For sure! The mix bus is not a “fix bus” hehe
Awesome tips! Thank you! I'm VERY SLOWLY starting to add hardware to my setup, nothing fancy, but this is encouraging.
@spinlightstudios
Ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Yes it can be a slow journey! But worth it!
The dream setup ... Love your stuff bro! This channel is going to BLOW UP !!!
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Hybrid set up all the way! Best of both worlds :) thanks man!
Was just browsing KZread looking at converters and found your vids and heard your using our beat for the demo. Awesome man glad to contribute!!
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Pretty funny how that stuff happens! Nice work, the tracks are really cool. One of my artists must have got the track through you guys :) I didn’t use the vocals in the demo as it’s not released yet.
Thank you for this. 👍🏻
Sounds great. A little bit goes a long way, compounding from one unit to another in the chain really adds up. It's so obviously different when bypassed. Every time you hit the bypass on the whole chain, the whole life of the song got sucked out and was immediately apparent. It's something that is hard to tell for the average listener when it's there, but obvious when it's not. Found this because looking at adding in the 542 stereo pair for my mix bus. Great video, thanks!
@spinlightstudios
2 ай бұрын
Thanks mate! Exactly, little bits of Colour added by each unit makes a huge difference when stacked up! Couldn’t live without my mix bus chain 🥰
Really enjoyed the vid. I’m currently looking to add more 500 series pieces to my Mixbus processing chain and came across your channel. Love your chain and the character and tone it gave the sound examples.
@spinlightstudios
6 ай бұрын
Cheers legend!
immediate like, my guy. Keep ‘em coming!
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
Superb bro I always like your videos it’s really useful 👍 keep going keep rocking ittttttt
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Appreciate you checking them out!
beautiful content, thank you very much!
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
No problem! Glad you enjoyed it!
I use AD800 tape on my mix bus but I've been saying lately the style of what I'm mixing I will use when needed but stick to using everything else I mix with. Thanks for this video it is very helpful.
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Glad you found it helpful man!
Solid mix - great clarity and definition in the mids/upper mids - without being harsh or fatiguing. It sounded good going into the chain - even better with the outboard. Nice job!
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! Outboard was the icing on the cake!
You're missing out not using Mid/Side mode on that insert! It can be magic. I actually put my 542's and EQ in there. Amazing the character you can impart (if you want). For the most part, I have a very similar setup as you. The Elisia filter 500 sometimes goes at the very end of my chain or before (I'm always fiddling). In addition, I run a SPL BiG for my widening/cool Bass circuit. I also run my entire mix first through a tube pre-amp. Great demo. Thanks for sharing!
@spinlightstudios
7 ай бұрын
Sounds like an awesome mix Bus chain you have going on! I’ll have to get some of that midside magic going 🪄
I definitely want to invest in some 500 series gear. It seems like such a great way to get a compact and relatively affordable analog chain. Obviously you have to get a chassis, but even those don't seem too pricey. I was listening to a Nashville producer, and he was talking about how he records in the box but sends the whole mix out through a pair of linked preamps. I'd love to do something like that just to get some coloration on my mixes. I'm not going to do any of that until I perfect the acoustic treatment in my room, though.
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
500 series is great, I had a whole bunch more but ended up selling off a bit of gear over the last 2 years, culled it back to what I use often. I’ve heard a few people talk about running mixes through preamps for some Colour. It’s not a bad idea at all, would give it some console vibes.
Cool breakdown! I have something similar going on. The 542's going into the fusion, with maag eq4's on the inserts so i can try both stereo or m/s, often put them pre eq to sort of massage some of the highs with the hf com when boosting that air band. From the fusion i run into wes audio dione or the rhea. Depending on the material i might pop in the drawmer 1974 before or after the comp for the filters ( i find the ones on the fusion a bit too drastic) or some high mid boost to open things up
@spinlightstudios
6 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
Great video man! Could you do a tutorial for how you've set up your Neve R6 and 500 modules as your mixbus with logic?
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! Yeah I’ll definitely consider doing something like that! Thanks for the idea :)
Thanks for a great detailed video. Do you do this process to finalise a mix before getting your track mastered? Or do you do this process to finalise your mix as an in-house style master?
@spinlightstudios
8 ай бұрын
For me, this is still part of the mixing process, just getting your mix to sounds as finished as possible.
Super subtle
@spinlightstudios
4 ай бұрын
I disagree immensely!
Greetings, Amazing video, but I have a few questions. Is there a reason you eq and comp prior to the ssl fusion? Most people would use the eq (in midside) using the ssl fusion and comp after the ssl. Do you find that you get a better sound with your workflow? Did you wire the units to a patchbay or do you have them wired in series directly into each other as a fix chain?
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Each unit is sent to my patch bay, but I have them set to half normal and cascading into one another so I don’t actually have to patch them in to each other every time I want to use my mix bus, but I can also then use each unit individually if desired. I think of the ssl fusion as a finisher/mastering style processor, which would come after my standard mix bus EQ/comp. This arrangement has worked really well for me and I have never felt the need to place the ssl earlier in my chain! I’m sure it would sound fine earlier though! Thanks for watching mate!
Does your audio level at unity when using the i/o plugin? I always need to increase the input when using the i/o plugin in order to get the level at unity gain
@spinlightstudios
5 ай бұрын
I always have to tweak the input and output to get a matched level when bypassing the I/O plugin
That sounds huge. Do you mix into those pieces and settings or is it something you add after you have your mix "done"? I thought the SSL Fusion was to be used for mastering :)
@spinlightstudios
8 ай бұрын
Sometimes I mix into them, other times I will have a plugin chain and swap to my outboard chain later in the mix if I feel it’s missing that secret sauce haha The fusion can be used however you like! For me it lives on the mix bus!
@hlrossato
8 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudiosThanks for replying. Cheers!
So on the mix bus do you put the Elysia EQ BEFORE or AFTER the Stam 4K Comp? .. thanks !
@spinlightstudios
11 ай бұрын
Before! :) but you can definitely do it after, whatever sounds better
@JimboJones99
11 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudios thanks. I just purchased the SSL Ultraviolet EQ + SSL G Comp 500 to fit into my API lunchbox . I don't have enough inputs into my Apollo x6 so am wondering which order to piggy back with patch cables.
Have you tried using the Neve in mid side? Blue silk on the mid and red silk on the sides?
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Oo I haven’t, Im sure that would sound pretty nice!
Question: If you're producing your own tracks, but not mixing them (because you're not a mixer), is it best to NOT have a mix bus? Thx bro
@spinlightstudios
9 ай бұрын
If you’re not planning on mixing the tracks, I wouldn’t worry about mix bus processing. Let the mix engineer add those herbs and spices
Hi dude, just a quick tech questions. Are your speakers Yamaha HS5's? How do you like them? :)
@spinlightstudios
6 ай бұрын
Hey mate! Mine are the HS8’s. I think they are pretty decent!
@leandrobremer-music
6 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudios awesome. I'm getting good prices on used HS7's. I might get one. Thanks a lot!
How is your 500 series chain going from right to left instead of left to right?
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
They aren’t fed into each other at the box, each piece has its inputs and outputs being sent to a patch bay - where I set the order of the signal chain
@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
Жыл бұрын
@@spinlightstudios Ahhhh... Thank you.
Seems like mastering moreover.
@spinlightstudios
10 ай бұрын
Not really, you can do as much or as little mix bus processing as your heart desires, whatever gets the result you want to hear.
Can you please do a video with plugins
@spinlightstudios
11 ай бұрын
I think that can be arranged!
@lunairysproducciones
5 күн бұрын
@@spinlightstudios yeah, specially recreating the 542's, maybe utilizing Plugin Doctor?
I think I bought your Drawmer 1978
@spinlightstudios
Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude! How’s it going?!
@clintonmaher6930
11 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudios It's great, I really like it. Usually sits on the drum buss but I use it for other stuff too like stereo vocals and percussion etc
@spinlightstudios
11 ай бұрын
@@clintonmaher6930 that’s great :) I used it predominantly on drums!
These ‘rules’ may work for you, but I suspect you are making great mixes to be so confident about the buss processing. For any mix, by anyone, done poorly, the buss process will do absolutely nothing to fix it. Certainly some of your viewers will fall in that category and end up thinking the right piece of gear is all that is stopping them making a living.
@spinlightstudios
4 ай бұрын
Hey man! I mean, you could say the same about anything - plugins too! I’m not trying to sell anyone on hardware here, just sharing what I use on my mix bus - I didn’t own any hardware for years, definitely recommend getting confident with plugins and mixing and then dive into the hardware world when you’re ready. Crap in - crap out - doesn’t matter about the gear.
@artysanmobile
4 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudios I didn’t for a minute think you’re selling anything, hardware or software. But you’re promoting an idea that the inexperienced may think is their solution. I’m just making conversation. I’m not a KZread crank. You’re clearly an experienced and gifted mixer. I wish we could show others how they can accomplish that.
@spinlightstudios
4 ай бұрын
@@artysanmobile oh for sure. I wasn’t annoyed at your comment, I agree that it’s not about using crazy gear to get a good sound as it’s more about your skills and knowledge :)
@artysanmobile
4 ай бұрын
@@spinlightstudios There is a narrative here that “fill in blank” reliably fixes “fill in problem” in music making. I’m not dumb to how the marketplace functions but the comments reveal a large watching audience who clearly isn’t understanding.