I offered to lend The Madness of Crowds to a friend. he refused to read it as he thinks Douglas is a far right commentator . This is one of the problems we face, closed minds

@dodieodie498

Жыл бұрын

You might tell him to read it so that he might "know and study the opposition". That the far right is on the rise, and it might be a good idea to truly understand what it's about. But I suppose one reason that people close their minds is because they are afraid they will be swayed by the other side. Maybe there is part of him that is not quite so sure of his own stance. I reckon you should tell him how much you appreciate the fact that he wants to stay safe and secure within his bubble. That you can feel nothing but understanding.

@garypautard1069

Жыл бұрын

It's the same here in the UK . Young people especially are side tracked into thinking of our society in a very narrow viewpoint. I cannot think of a generation who were more brainwashed by propaganda.

@philosiphydept

Жыл бұрын

So true, I'm traditionally a lefty anarchist, and I much prefer to listen to these conservative thinkers like Douglas. I see so many lefty's without any conservative influence, or just a complete disdain for anything conservative regardless of its value, holding hands with any neo-puritan intersectional cult on their mindless crusades.

@andrewwotherspoona5722

Жыл бұрын

@@dodieodie498 The far right is indeed on the rise. My worry is that Western societies are falling into authoritarianism every bit as bad as Communist China.

@groth3395

Жыл бұрын

I think it goes deeper than that. It seems to me that most people under the age of 40 these days do not read books. They "Google" everything and read what someone has posted on wikipedia and google remembers their searches and then aligns all its "findings" to suit their profile. We are creating a 21st century propaganda machine in which people believe anything that a google search tells them (that makes them "feel good"). The world has plenty of great minds like Murray's who see us for what we are and yet - people simply won't read their works because they don't "feel" like it and they allow preconceptions to dictate their actions. Very dangerous waters we are treading in. And the water level is rising.

Douglas Murray is one of the great thinkers of our time . He should be heeded .

@marcustulliuscicero2676

Жыл бұрын

A bit sad that simply stating what would have been considered truisms just 10-15 years ago places you among the great thinkers. Nothing against Douglas - we need more well-spoken people like him saying common sense things and speaking out against woke fascism. Just a commentary on how the anglophone world had gone medically insane in a span of just a few years.

@peteratkinson922

Жыл бұрын

As a coward, I recognise him as a man of courage.

@kenhickford6581

Жыл бұрын

@@marcustulliuscicero2676 Re: "A bit sad that simply stating what would have been considered truisms just 10-15 years ago places you among the great thinkers??? A very valid point, and very true!

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

Really? Murray just another Conservative out to destroy Marxism and defend blind ignorance.

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why Conservatives and Christianity on the nose globally? Why people do not defend racism, sexism and lgbt hate globally.

Douglas Murray is my favourite person , a beacon of sanity in a country that has completely and utterly lost its collective mind

I don’t know how I’ve missed Douglas Murray for years, but I’m very glad I’ve finally found him! Now I have to go back and find all of his columns and books and interviews…!

“No amount of artificial reinforcement can offset the natural inequalities of human individuals.” ―Henry P. Fairchild

@robinwells8879

11 ай бұрын

And this is why the reasonable man should continuously strive for equality of opportunity. You know, like grammar schools that educate those of the disadvantaged who actually wish to learn their way out of their ghetto rather than clinging to their ignorance like a crucifix.....except the Left hates excellence in any form because they have always wanted the unattainable equality of outcome which is impossible and undesirable.

@leonharrison800

11 ай бұрын

But when does Douglas Murray care about rights for LGBT or any other oppressed drought? Does he know what human rights even are????

@robinwells8879

11 ай бұрын

@@leonharrison800 I think that even the lgbt community will be incinerated along with the rest of us in a nuclear exchange. Is that the kind of equality you require for complete personal fulfilment? Do please grow up before its too late. How many of the 30-50k Ukrainian “soldiers” that have been already been slaughtered where frightened young members of your beloved lgbt community. Did they have any human rights?

@morganclare4704

11 ай бұрын

@@leonharrison800 Oppressed??? WHATS THE COLOUR OF THE SKY IN YOUR UNIVERSE???

@leonharrison800

11 ай бұрын

@Morgan Clare What's the colour of bigotry? Plenty of racist,sexist and lgbt hate on You Tube! When is conservative and religionist hate speech acceptable????

I could listen to Douglas Murray uninterrupted for the rest of my life. He’s pretty easy on the eyes too!

It is nothing short of amazing that we have more access to information and instruction than EVER before, as well as educational opportunities galore, and yet, people seem to be dumber and less engaged than ever, and common sense just no longer seems common. Not to mention an appreciation for and firm grip on reality.

@johnmac333

Жыл бұрын

You've hit on the problem , info is too easy , and anything easy we don't learn from .

@dogbirdgun

Жыл бұрын

“I don’t have to know anything. I can just look it up”.

@dodieodie498

Жыл бұрын

@Jamal Johnson Having a (somewhat) open platform is going to allow for that certainly. It surprises me how people don't rush to the better stuff just because it's so darn easy to access. But I don't exactly understand people because I felt the same way about public libraries back in the day. I reckon most are using it for entertainment, and many are addicted to the mind numbing junk. So they are basically drawing in their encyclopedias, as opposed to reading or applying the entries.

@dodieodie498

Жыл бұрын

@@johnmac333 Maybe in part...but I think it's deeper. More like people feeling that they don't have to learn or grow themselves. Once the complaint was about how unfair it is that people can't access education because parents couldn't afford encyclopedias or the schools were bad. That people WANTED to learn but were denied the opportunity. I think we can see that any claims about that are mostly baloney now, because "education" is easy to get. Now there's so much "education" that you have to be careful about accessing what is actually going to make you smarter. But it seems that people are too attracted to the tripe and idle entertainments.

@gustabeumer688

Жыл бұрын

Most people have not a grip on reality any more. They are so brainwashed they can not even think for themselves. If they did the world would not be in the mess it is today.

Fantastic! Great work on getting Douglas on the show, John. He's yet another voice of reason in this world gone mad. With each passing year, it feels more like it's The Left versus Reality. Or the moderates, the non-political, the right versus Insanity. Clearly Yuri Bezmenov was telling us the truth, after his defection. My thanks to you and everyone on your crew for producing these interviews.

@1911beauty

Жыл бұрын

If you look back just a few decades ago, it was the exact opposite. Republicans tried to legislate morality. They tried to force things to stay exactly the same. This wild swing toward crazy we live was predictable. Being a person of color or a little different, just a few decades ago was a pretty sad being to be.

@handroids1981

Жыл бұрын

@@1911beauty According to the Left. Need I say more?

@casek6930

Жыл бұрын

I find it useful to frame the present political situation as anti-native ideology (the Left) vs native ideology (everyone else). The Left ideology will work the same way as a cultural solvent no matter where in the world it is imported: identify structural values and relentlessly deconstruct and attack. The native values really can be anything.

@handroids1981

Жыл бұрын

@@casek6930 Hi and sadly I agree. Is that the natural state of "Leftism?" I don't think so but the point is moot when the reality is Marxism infects and therefore alters everything it touches. One could call Marxism, The forced politicalization of everything. In existence. Ever. As Karl would wish. That raging narcissist. With very hard times on the horizon, for us as a species, I wonder how much we will see Liberalism as a luxury we can no longer afford. I do not wonder how the Liberals will behave. Dark times indeed.

@casek6930

Жыл бұрын

@@handroids1981 , yeah, clearly Marxism is the heart of the thing. It's resilience and ability to transform and evolve and the fact that it feeds on any inequality whatsoever combined with man's insatiable desire for status leads me to believe that this is a civilizational bug that was inevitable. Aaaaaand it may very well be with us forever. There might be aliens in another galaxy dealing with the same thing lol. At this point I don't see how the solution is going to be palatable.

Douglas Murray is a UK National Treasure.

@Dave_AI

Жыл бұрын

Not just a UK national treasure, a world treasure. If only more people would listen.

@user-gz9yx5ty1r

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave_AI True

@peteratkinson922

Жыл бұрын

@@Dave_AI Hold the statues just yet.

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

Murray another Bigot like Jordan Peterson. Nothing to offer except bigotry and hate.

@CJCappella

10 ай бұрын

And he's hot

I am actively trying to provide my two sons with the same message...it's hard work. The shame is... they don't even seem to understand some of the core concepts (and both of my sons are 'smart') but more importantly they don't see the consequences... Mostly because the education they have received (and continue to receive at university) is the antitheses to critical thinking and they are being offered so much more attractive and supposedly easier options e.g., "social justice", utopia", everything is "going to be fair" (who could go against that?)... It is the Task of Sisyphus... except for the fact that I believe it is worth it... I am their father, that's the die cast... and I may not win but maybe I can lodge that boulder somewhere beyond 'halfway' and in some manner ameliorate the tragedies that may be to come.

@Dabhach1

Жыл бұрын

They may not understand YET...

@AnInterestedObserver

Жыл бұрын

Your observation about universities is correct. However, it goes further back than that, the Woke ideology is firmly entrenched in the entire education system, from nursery onwards.

@johnmac333

Жыл бұрын

Good luck to you Michael , hopefully they'll appreciate your advice before it's too late .

@peteratkinson922

Жыл бұрын

By 'critical thinking' do you mean assessing opposite sides of the argument? Its difficult to read fairly a view opposing the one held by the reader if it is framed in inflamatory terms.

@michaelschmidt1101

Жыл бұрын

@@peteratkinson922 That is true... and too much of the debate is tilted by people making personal/character attacks rather than investigating the subject matter and THEN discussing it. A whole lot of people go off half-cocked on some topics e.g., many SJW's have never even heard of Thomas Sowell and/or read any of his work whereas 'we' have SJW stuff forced down our throat often.

I highly recommend Murray’s book “War on the West”

@anthonymorris5084

Жыл бұрын

Great book.

@elsiesaunders4607

Жыл бұрын

Also, Andrew Doyle's "The New Puritans" and H M Sealey's "This Broken Land" and "The Privileged Few."

@richatlarge462

10 ай бұрын

Aka war on white civilization.

Truth, when spoken has an effect on a human soul …. Because deep within it craves Truth.., like Love, like oxygen 🙏🙏🙏 Grateful thanks from 🇬🇧

@seasonedbeefs

Жыл бұрын

No such thing as a soul

@evelynmariayeshua

Жыл бұрын

@@seasonedbeefs your understanding…. Not mine… I have a soul ☺️

@JakeyOhsogood

Жыл бұрын

@@evelynmariayeshua As do I, and you're spot on when you say it craves the truth.

@nv7287

Жыл бұрын

Populism and 'woke' culture are two sides of the same coin: they both reduce the richness and complexity of human experience to a set of simplistic, ideologically-determined categories. Whether it's 'the people' or 'oppressed identities,' both are guilty of erasing the nuance and individuality of human beings in favor of a cartoonish caricature of group identity

John Anderson and Peter Robinson are the masters of interviewing, they get the best from their guests and don't dominate them like so many other interviewers do.

@robinwells8879

11 ай бұрын

A blend of humility and humanity.

I keep coming back to Notes From The Underground… give man enough economic prosperity such that all he need do is sleep, eat cake, and busy himself with the continuation of the species and then surely, out of sheer boredom and spite he will find some way to fk up his own good fortunes.

@keithdovoric7709

Жыл бұрын

One of my go-to books; I quoted from it in the epigraph to one of my own modest works.

If we are all equal we are not free If we are all free we are not equal !

@leonharrison800

Жыл бұрын

I doubt you know the meaning of freedom or equality!!!!!

@JesusFriedChrist

11 ай бұрын

@@leonharrison800 I doubt you do

@leonharrison800

11 ай бұрын

@@JesusFriedChrist Are you even literate. Stop the religious guise. You are not superior. Equality is when bigotry and hate does not exist and we can be free to be ourselves. What Conservaatives never talk about because they defend dictatorship. Certainly religionists use "Christ" or ""Allah" to control others.

Wise words. This advice would have been good for me to hear and follow 10 years ago. I had to find this wisdom out on my own the hard & painful way about 5 years ago.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

Never been wisdom it's called Christianity

@AnupamBam

11 ай бұрын

That's how it is. We all learn from our failures. The hard way.

Interestingly I actually think the sheer volume of information is also a cause of the problem too. Douglas is right that overcoming challenge in life is more rewarding than just bringing standards down so that everyone can win. However when you give everyone easier lives and people have access to all the information it makes people want instant gratification all the time. I believe this new cultural feature and the way it socialises people is a part of why we have a political movement so obsessed with being a victim. If people grew up having to work harder for things (reading a book to the end or having to study harder to answer a question) they would actually have a better outlook on life.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

You can't alter life it is what it is Douglas lies in the 20th century

DM is so underrated

@leegrant7333

Жыл бұрын

he isn't underated at all

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

Depeche mode lol

Great show, John. Douglas is one of the profound contemporary thinkers.

I watch everything Douglas does as he is fantastic to listen to and he obviously has a great intellect but he’s very humble with it.

I never get tired of listening to Douglas Murray. I absolutely love him.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

I fall asleep as he is so privileged self satisfactory and tiring!

@fatmonkey4716

Жыл бұрын

​@@JustinSmith-kn9ef Is that because you are too lazy to think about the points he brought up?

@davidgrosvenor1

Жыл бұрын

He makes things complicated!

It's the tragedy of our time.

A brilliant Mind of our time.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

By mind what do you mean?

I could never tire of hearing Douglas Murray talk. Such intelligence and common sense. If anyone's ever read H M Sealey's "The Privileged Few" - I think she said that was inspired by the idea that the futuristic society in her book had stopped bothering with new technology and was now utterly focused on some utopia where redressing past privileges is the centre of life, so everything else becomes stagnant.

Thank you for sharing 🙏

I just finished reading the strange death of europe. It’s a great read. Well done Douglas.

'If you compare yourself to others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser beings' The Desiderata

@nv7287

Жыл бұрын

Populism and 'woke' culture are like two ships passing in the night, both caught up in the same storm of identity politics and exclusionary thinking. They may not realize it, but they're both headed for the same rocky shore of intolerance and division

@nv7287

Жыл бұрын

they(populism and woke) share a disdain for individualism. To them, it's all about the collective ... (collective madness that is).

Focusing our minds on actually making our world better is scary and difficult. And the more intelligent one is, the harder and scarier it is.

John, I told you about The Scottish Family Party’s Leader/Founder a while ago. He is worth considering for an interview. The MSM choose to ignore the SFP too sensitive for them.

Douglas Murray is one of the best minds of our time.

Income equality isn't necessary. If you look at Happiness Research, you'll find this pattern: If people are really poor, then giving them a bit of money raises their happiness a tremendous amount. But once happens, for every dollar they get after that, the marginal rate of happiness for each additional dollar continues to slowly drop. Then once people's basic needs are met, of a house, medical care, transportation, food, education, clothing, at basically what used to be called an American middle class level, happiness doesn't go up much at all, for the wealthy or super wealthy. So the point is, what is our goal? Equality is a poor target, because equality isn't actually what people want. There is a very short list of things everyone on the planet needs to reach roughly optimal happiness. After that, you can look at things like family and friends. I know lots of people that have nice families but little money. Lots of happiness. I know a few rich people who have too much money, but their children despise them. Very little happiness. There are general patterns, but the devil is in the details. The madness of total equality is, that's not what people actually want. Equality as a goal? It's very low resolution thinking. It's not even how people are wired. We all want different things.

@peteratkinson922

Жыл бұрын

Aggreed

@mbee6256

Жыл бұрын

Nicely stated.

Excellent

Bless You Douglas!

Me again.....just passing thought I'de drop in . This is an amazing clip - thank you both.

@kaylenehousego8929

Жыл бұрын

Yes John I agree with you also - the resurrection was and is real . As real and alive today as it was then.

Smart guy this one..... Stop caring about what people think is right for you.

This should have 3 million likes. Brilliant.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

Have you ever studied philosophy? I think you'll find his arguments rather flismy sadly

"Everything is what it is: liberty is liberty, not equality or fairness or justice or culture, or human happiness or a quiet conscience." (Isaiah Berlin)

Total equality is not the goal; preferential treatment is the goal.

Reread "Harrison Bergeron" where they finally achieved equality. A brilliant 👏 short story.

People don't know how good our lives are. My ancestors are 50% Irish 25% English and 24% Scots. My Irish ancestors were little more than slaves to the English and millions starved at their hands and the rest of my ancestry were also serfs. Today I live a life that would have been regarded as the pinnacle of luxury to even the aristocracy 200 years ago. I think it would be interesting to take these idiots who want equity, diversity and inclusion and put them in a remote rural community who live an 'off grid' life for a year and see if that's what they really want. I suggest rural Pakistan, India, Siberia, and Sri Lanka.

Release the whole convo please

He’s soooooo right. Preach

Douglas Murray is awesome

Brilliant

True words

Summed up in Harrison Bergeron over half a century ago

I'm always happy to watch Douglas Murray, but it's late at night and I misread and somehow thought it was a talk between Douglas Murray and Bill Burr. That would have been priceless to watch

Brilliant 🙏🥰❤👼

Spot on! Woke people are dreaming. Zero reality. Might be best if went to sleep again.

“The transforming of our minds”, in Greek would be “metanoia” or, in other words, repentance.

Amen John

I would like to say that there are not enough harpists represented in the men's Olympic weightlifting community.

@every1665

Жыл бұрын

And don't get me started on the dearth of champion weightlifters in the string section of the London Philharmonic Orchestra. Scandal!

@andyharpist2938

Жыл бұрын

@@every1665 I listened to a cacophonous orchestra in the Royal Albert Hall the other day..its main raison d'etre seemed to be proudly-based on the fact that only non- white people were allowed to be members of it. (though, oddly, several white people seemed to be part of it).

@every1665

Жыл бұрын

@@andyharpist2938 They might simply claim your concept of music is based on white privilege - as they do with maths now.

@andyharpist2938

Жыл бұрын

@@every1665 Oh It certainly is based upon my life experience, whatever that may be. And clearly represents the culmination of musical composition of 1000 years.But I'm willing to accept any other music style offered as valid and decide myself if it is enjoyable for me. Personally I dont think they want us to enjoy music. It creates fun gatherings and drug free pleasure, Keeps us away from control and our minds on higher things, so is to be curtailed, licenced and approved. I actually feel now that some music ( and art) is also demonic.

Wonderful two men.

Yes . I once Heard a True feminist on the rádio say that androgeny is the begining of the end of a culture.

BRILLIANT AS USUAL.

Good on Douglas for continuing to do these interviews for the greater good, despite being proselytized to every single time you speak to him.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

Жыл бұрын

That's because he's exclusive in a rapidly inclusive society lol

“Ideology always leads to atrocity.” -Terrence McKenna Woke is no exception. Thanks John and Doug for calling out these woke ideologues and their dystopian nightmare agenda.

Powerful

Amen

Two great men

Life has never been fair. Just do your best, be a decent person, help others and you’ll find happiness.

"You can't go around building a better world for people. Only people can build a better world for people. Otherwise it's just a cage." -- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)

@matityaloran9157

Жыл бұрын

That was a great book

@axle.australian.patriot

Жыл бұрын

@@matityaloran9157 Admittedly I haven't had the chance to read the book, but the quote has truths in it :)

@matityaloran9157

Жыл бұрын

@@axle.australian.patriot Pratchett has a lot of great quotes. I did read the book, it’s quite good

@axle.australian.patriot

Жыл бұрын

@@matityaloran9157 Thank you, I will add it to my "To Read" list :)

@axle.australian.patriot

Жыл бұрын

@@matityaloran9157 I just realized he wrote the Discworld series lol I didn't get to read them, but had a friend always taking about them :)

I am a left-handed guitarist and wrote the following in a Fb lefties group recently: "There is no group more discriminated in this modern world than the leftie guitarist. I dream of a world where guitar shops sell equal numbers of left and right guitars." I got one reply: .. your dream will never come true, because there are far more righty guitar players in this world. upon which I replied; 'Exactly, and that's why we have regulations, to make it fair for everyone. Equality.' He finally replied to me Blair Macdonald, "So you want regulations in place to make 50% of a shop’s sales go to 10% of their customers? Is this what you call “equality”? I stopped there and just laughed.

Astonishingly well articulated (but not astonishing coming from Douglas Murray). (And Malcolm Gladwell only DREAMS he could communicate so well.)

It's so ironic that we have all the access to all the information, and we completely waste it on small, ever reducing thought.

What do you, if you are not a smart person. This is the most relevant question to me (for obvious reasons).

People really don't want equality. They don't want to be the same as you. They want to be a little bit better, have a little bit more. Competition is a factor that is rarely (never?) mentioned in these discussions.

I am a painter, using color to create meaning and beauty. I learned if you mix the colors equally, it turns to an unusable brown.

@pianoatthirty

11 ай бұрын

Great analogy!

wow wow wow this man is so god and honest

It is the unthinking beings who continue to be warts on the evolution of humankind.

Douglas is right. Yes, strive for a life of purpose.

Rewarding and promoting competence are the key incentives to progress and prosperity for all societies… something which the Marxist ideologues fail to grasp and instil… until, however, crises threatened collapse, and that is when communists, first in China and then in Russia, had to accept and embrace a new approach, for them, controlled capitalism.

Freidrich Hayek put it best: “A society that does not recognize that each individual has values of his own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity of the individual and cannot really know freedom.”

29. The Tarantulas-Thus Spoke Zarathustra(Nietzsche) Lo, this is the tarantula's den! Would'st thou see the tarantula itself? Here hangeth its web: touch this, so that it may tremble. There cometh the tarantula willingly: Welcome, tarantula! Black on thy back is thy triangle and symbol; and I know also what is in thy soul. Revenge is in thy soul: wherever thou bitest, there ariseth black scab; with revenge, thy poison maketh the soul giddy! Thus do I speak unto you in parable, ye who make the soul giddy, ye preachers of equality! Tarantulas are ye unto me, and secretly revengeful ones! But I will soon bring your hiding-places to the light: therefore do I laugh in your face my laughter of the height. Therefore do I tear at your web, that your rage may lure you out of your den of lies, and that your revenge may leap forth from behind your word "justice." Because, for man to be redeemed from revenge-that is for me the bridge to the highest hope, and a rainbow after long storms. Otherwise, however, would the tarantulas have it. "Let it be very justice for the world to become full of the storms of our vengeance"-thus do they talk to one another. "Vengeance will we use, and insult, against all who are not like us"-thus do the tarantula-hearts pledge themselves. "And 'Will to Equality'-that itself shall henceforth be the name of virtue; and against all that hath power will we raise an outcry!" Ye preachers of equality, the tyrant-frenzy of impotence crieth thus in you for "equality": your most secret tyrant-longings disguise themselves thus in virtue-words! Fretted conceit and suppressed envy-perhaps your fathers' conceit and envy: in you break they forth as flame and frenzy of vengeance. What the father hath hid cometh out in the son; and oft have I found in the son the father's revealed secret. Inspired ones they resemble: but it is not the heart that inspireth them-but vengeance. And when they become subtle and cold, it is not spirit, but envy, that maketh them so. Their jealousy leadeth them also into thinkers' paths; and this is the sign of their jealousy-they always go too far: so that their fatigue hath at last to go to sleep on the snow. In all their lamentations soundeth vengeance, in all their eulogies is maleficence; and being judge seemeth to them bliss. But thus do I counsel you, my friends: distrust all in whom the impulse to punish is powerful! They are people of bad race and lineage; out of their countenances peer the hangman and the sleuth-hound. Distrust all those who talk much of their justice! Verily, in their souls not only honey is lacking. And when they call themselves "the good and just," forget not, that for them to be Pharisees, nothing is lacking but-power! My friends, I will not be mixed up and confounded with others. There are those who preach my doctrine of life, and are at the same time preachers of equality, and tarantulas. That they speak in favour of life, though they sit in their den, these poison-spiders, and withdrawn from life-is because they would thereby do injury. To those would they thereby do injury who have power at present: for with those the preaching of death is still most at home. Were it otherwise, then would the tarantulas teach otherwise: and they themselves were formerly the best world-maligners and heretic-burners. With these preachers of equality will I not be mixed up and confounded. For thus speaketh justice unto me: "Men are not equal." And neither shall they become so! What would be my love to the Superman, if I spake otherwise? On a thousand bridges and piers shall they throng to the future, and always shall there be more war and inequality among them: thus doth my great love make me speak! Inventors of figures and phantoms shall they be in their hostilities; and with those figures and phantoms shall they yet fight with each other the supreme fight! Good and evil, and rich and poor, and high and low, and all names of values: weapons shall they be, and sounding signs, that life must again and again surpass itself! Aloft will it build itself with columns and stairs-life itself into remote distances would it gaze, and out towards blissful beauties- therefore doth it require elevation! And because it requireth elevation, therefore doth it require steps, and variance of steps and climbers! To rise striveth life, and in rising to surpass itself. And just behold, my friends! Here where the tarantula's den is, riseth aloft an ancient temple's ruins-just behold it with enlightened eyes! Verily, he who here towered aloft his thoughts in stone, knew as well as the wisest ones about the secret of life! That there is struggle and inequality even in beauty, and war for power and supremacy: that doth he here teach us in the plainest parable. How divinely do vault and arch here contrast in the struggle: how with light and shade they strive against each other, the divinely striving ones.- Thus, steadfast and beautiful, let us also be enemies, my friends! Divinely will we strive against one another!- Alas! There hath the tarantula bit me myself, mine old enemy! Divinely steadfast and beautiful, it hath bit me on the finger! "Punishment must there be, and justice"-so thinketh it: "not gratuitously shall he here sing songs in honour of enmity!" Yea, it hath revenged itself! And alas! now will it make my soul also dizzy with revenge! That I may not turn dizzy, however, bind me fast, my friends, to this pillar! Rather will I be a pillar-saint than a whirl of vengeance! Verily, no cyclone or whirlwind is Zarathustra: and if he be a dancer, he is not at all a tarantula-dancer!- Thus spake Zarathustra.

If we are equal, we are not free or if we are not free we cannot be equal………….

Equal in dignity (value or worth) unequal in every other respect.

Equality of opportunity is important. Equality of outcome is a fool's game.

There are two kinds of discrimination: disparity of treatment and disparity of outcome. When most people think and talk about discrimination, they refer to a disparity of treatment, which occurs when a person is treated differently simply because he or she is a member of a particular group. I would like to think that we can agree that this is wrong. The other kind of discrimination--disparity of outcome--occurs when people experience different results unintentionally. This is what is being addressed when it is noted that, due to one's fault at all, women are underrepresented in high-level chess competitions. The problem is that it is impossible to eliminate a disparity of outcome without _creating_ a disparity of treatment--which we have already agreed is wrong. Indeed, when one alters the rules of play so as to "level the playing field" to give a particular group a better opportunity, one necessarily is simultaneously treating people differently _because of_ their membership of a group. Further, if people who would have otherwise advanced by virtue of their own merit are adversely affected by the change, you have also caused a disparity of outcome for them--making it doubly wrong.

they want to be diverse and totally equal at the same time, these people cannot be considered sane people

"Harrison Bergeron" is a satirical dystopian science-fiction short story by American writer Kurt Vonnegut, first published in October 1961. Read this story: it is frighteningly prescient from a story from 60 years ago.

@62Cristoforo

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Lol. I just posted the same film title, before seeing your post.

@nicobester8053

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@@62Cristoforo An anthology of Vonnegut's book - all his short stories - are often strangely like re-visiting our current social stupidities.

Both of these men have the right idea.

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This should be shown in schools and universities. Douglas Murray is one of the voices crying in the wilderness of our self obsessed society.

@JustinSmith-kn9ef

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No he's an arrogant self serving neo con who'd want their children to listen to him must be crazy!

'Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.' Romans 12.2

Seems like we are exploding from the onslaught of knowledge!! But thinking like the old evil selfish people we should be chasing away!

Working class people are prevented from doing what they want precisely by class and privilege.

100% what are the most important things we can focus on to achieve our full potential and make meaningful positive contributions to civilization ... i.e. do we build vs break down ... what is the most efficient route?

Douglas Murray is the epitome of careful, introspective thought. The polar opposite of reactionary, emotional insecurity. People will automatically fall back on feeling secure in their beliefs. Challenging those beliefs, is profoundly enlightening. You don't need to apostate yourself, you only need to lessen the ontological certainty that your beliefs are infallible.

Being hypnotised by the sense of me-ness will always lead to suffering. Buddha taught humans this 2500yrs ago..

At the end Anderson basically quotes Scripture (although probably without knowing it) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." (Rom 12:2)

Total equality will never happen. I say that from a point of view of longterm homeless. I will always be in the eyes of most is a waste of time a drug addict and an alcoholic. Which I am not. I will never be equal to anyone.

We've been shown how the feminists movement may be swept aside, with no real pushback.

It's so true. The increasing number of people just uselessly spinning in circles and yapping about imaginary ideology are not only missing out on their own life, but interfering with everyone else's life. Wasting education time spinning circles with social media babble instead of preparing students for their own future contributions to humanity. Oy!

They just want to tear it down.

Things aren't equal. Some cultures are better than other. Right? Or with family - A child does best with a mother and father. So many factual examples

Amen and Amen Sirs, and that transformation is inherently in His hands, by His power, and timing...as Jesus said pray that His kingdom will come and His will be done...it won't be easy, but will greatly benefit all involved.

What Douglas said, gives me the idea that, if people say they want reparations, the answer is "The internet is reparations, google is reparations, youtube is reparations", you have been given the ability to find almost anything out, this is more than enough, more than anyone has historically been given.

@marisaera2353

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Bras are reparations.

Potential. Everyone today seems to ignore their own, and that of others (particulary people who use our tax monies).

Listen to 'Let's Be Thankful' by Irving Aaronson and his Commanders' 1934.

Douglas Murray sure has a fine sensory for important but underestimated issues that pose an imminent threat to the very fabric of modern societies. Look forward to his next episode on the perils of cannibalism which threatens every second of us.