Thanks to Life with Aaron for the voice over job. Check his channel below kzread.info

@dinos6231

2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it as well and also go Blue!!!!!

@PassingOnThrough

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! Always a pleasure to be a part of your channels.

@Zachw2007

2 жыл бұрын

I first learned of the List Family murders on Forensic Files.

@JustOne28

2 жыл бұрын

Done!

@natashafaulkner8467

2 жыл бұрын

True evil

He made it look like he was sparing his wife & children from a life time of poverty & suffering. The truth is they were becoming a burden. He was a monster in human form.

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. He was.

@shawnadawkins1040

2 жыл бұрын

He was so selfish 😬

@marilynschmidt6400

2 жыл бұрын

@@shawnadawkins1040 also manipulative, greedy and delusional. I'd hate to think what he would've turned out if his parents were brother and sister instead of first cousins

@deniseroe5891

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

@missique1324

2 жыл бұрын

Narcopath John List is the boogie man..Monster deciding he was gonna play GOD

He lived 20 years longer than his poor family did. Thank You to John Walsh and Americans' Most Wanted plus the people that turned him in. He had a one month head start.

@pauletaylorjr8458

2 жыл бұрын

I think John Walsh got repayment because law enforcement even worth harder to solve his son's murder and eventually did

@MiMisTreasures

2 жыл бұрын

About 40 more, I think

@frankpaya690

2 жыл бұрын

He lived longer than that, I think it was more like 30-40- years, before he died alone in prison where he belonged.

@angelinamartinez561

2 жыл бұрын

John List = Demon 😈 I can't imagine the Fear and Suffering He Did to this whole family especially the young children just horrible... may these innocent victims of violence and cruel brutal killing Rest Peacefully in Heaven

@katemaloney4296

Жыл бұрын

He had 36 .5 more years on earth. He even outlived his mother-in-law and stepdaughter. As far as I know, Jean Syfert is the last remaining relative.

This story always gives me the chills. Can’t believe he could justify killing them.

@mygrammieis

2 жыл бұрын

I second that emotion for sure

@mygrammieis

2 жыл бұрын

Horrible horrible human behavior never should have happened!

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

The guy was a total psychopath, same arrogance and narcissism as Ted Bundy and Dennis Rader. He felt no guilt, otherwise he would have killed himself at the scene.

@user-iz9yc3rg5e

2 жыл бұрын

He was afraid of what other people thought of him.

@applepie1923

2 жыл бұрын

We could have went bankrupt and had to go on Welfare, so I killed them so they wouldn’t have to do that. Way to embarrassing for them. So he killed his mother too? Sick piece of crap gave this as a reason yet didn’t kill himself? I guess it wouldn’t have been so bad to be on Welfare in his own eyes. Coward…

Makes a decision for the family but goes on living himself. Self-righteous creep. So glad he got caught.

The fact that the tiffany glass covering the roof of their house would have solved all their money problems turned my stomach because they never knew its true value.

@Kenna198

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always found that so ironic, but I wonder if he would’ve murdered them anyway due to his self righteousness

@Ocelot1962

2 жыл бұрын

Twisted religious nutters don’t know the true value of anything.

@regularity2556

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ocelot1962 No need to be so rude

@Kenna198

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ocelot1962 I despise them

@ddivincenzo1194

2 жыл бұрын

He should have looked into that and sold the house with the value of the glass factored in.

John List's capture is what put America's Most Wanted on the Television map, and other cases like the List family murders are what kept it on TV for 23 consecutive years! (1987-2010, with John Walsh as host)

@jeremyt2212

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the reboot of America's Most Wanted is still on the air. I tried, but it just wasn't the same without John, just like when they tried bringing back Unsolved Mysteries without Robert Stack. Just didn't have the same magic.

@joshuabrooks4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyt2212 I don't know if the AMW reboot is still on the air.

@John2271

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyt2212 You are absolutely right Jeremy 👍

@someonesprincess3

2 жыл бұрын

apq

@joshuabrooks4907

2 жыл бұрын

@@someonesprincess3 what's this supposed to mean?

List thought he was doing them a favor by killing them- but what he was actually doing was relieving himself of a burden

@sideeye7735

2 жыл бұрын

He was doing his self a favor..

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! He comes across as extremely narcissistic and selfish in that letter. I believe he was a psychopath. He got rid of his old life and created another for himself. A lot of people suffer economic hardship but they don't eliminate their families, which is exactly what he did. How could he live with himself after what he did? I see no remorse in him, only relief.

@evanscalvin5

2 жыл бұрын

Right he should've just took himself out..

@creolelady182

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanscalvin5 His real reason for killing them had nothing to do with their souls burning in herll- he simply wanted to rid himself of the burden

@evanscalvin5

2 жыл бұрын

@@creolelady182 your absolutely right 🎯

This is such a tragic and heartbreaking case. And the fact that he got away with it so long. May the victims rest in peace.

@katedave2019

2 жыл бұрын

John List was a family annihilator. Back then anialators weren't labeled as such Hes in a category all hs own. Chris Watts and Chris Coleman. Are the most evil, selfish pigs to ever walk the earth.

One tidbit I remember from seeing this case on TV years ago was that when the house burned down, it was discovered that the stained glass ceiling in the ballroom had been made by Tiffany. It had been worth a LOT of money. Enough to solve his financial problems (and save his family) had he known anything about it.

@vsanchez7158

2 жыл бұрын

I had read that too!!!

@Lexibeez8907

2 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! So sad!

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, how about THAT? That is a very beautiful neighborhood ($$$).

@beckyg.8228

2 жыл бұрын

That’s true.

@vickieclark5931

2 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't have mattered. He was a murderer and would have killed his family anyway. It wouldn't have saved them. Someone evil like that was just using this excuse along with all the other excuses to wipe them out of his life. He was sick and probably planned this for a long long time.

Lamont, this is such a great production. The way you started with the letter and worked through the visit of the homeplace and then ended with the cemetery grave. Such a beautiful tribute to these 5 people whose lives ended so tragically and painfully. I'm so glad he was caught. Imagine the way his wife felt when he was arrested for these crimes. She had to be suffering from trauma knowing she was married to a monster.

The oldest boy put up a fight before he died.

The letter read at the beginning gave me more insight into his mindset than anything else I’ve seen or read about these murders. I live near Richmond and remember when he was captured. I’ve read books, watched shows and videos. I may have seen the letter in print. But the narration of it was excellent! Still doesn’t excuse his selfishness. He had a very dark and cruel soul.

@ooCHICOoo

2 жыл бұрын

hello 👋 Susan you are correct his souls were darkness unbelievable human man in years 1970 i was living in New York 🗽 and clearly remember this case. in my opinion i can believe that a human man do this action go away for almost 18 years and never think about his family my goodness this is real darkness and evil personality, great 👍 your comments Susan.

@ooCHICOoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@michelekossack1861 👍 it’s true

@ernestinemaloy8680

2 жыл бұрын

Susan Miller the tragedy is pat list told her drama coach exactly what was going to happen and nobody believed her...her drama coach said she was shaking and crying...terrified...but he told her she was imagining things her father wouldn't do this...then she went missing and nobody knew where they were til someone ģot the idea to check their home they did and found everyone dead...just as pat list said...tragic...people when a friend or acquaintance tells you something like this...DONOT BLOW THEM OFF CALL THE AUTHORITIES...look what happened to princess diana...she told people prince charles would set it up to have her seriously injured in a car crash with brain damage so he could marry twiggy legge bourke... there's even a letter written by diana stating this would happenidk where twiggy came from because in the end charles DID marry camilla and recently qe2 gave her blessing for camilla to become queen consort..ommfg people please don't ignore a potential victim of a horrendous crime so they end up like pat list or princess diana...both unfortunate women ended up dead for very selfish reasons...hope someday they can rest in peace...

@aprilgosa5779

2 жыл бұрын

@@ernestinemaloy8680 Charles did not have Diana killed I heard those tapes I do not believe she was really scared of him if she was why get in that car that night she was an inteligent woman why leave her kids with him n Twiggy was never named Camilla was the one he was cheating with and n love with I adored Diana she knew the paparazzi were gonna be her end Harry and WIll hate the Paparazzi Harry left England to keep it from happening to Meghan and their kids Charles is their father too she also would not knowingly get in the car with a drunk driver and some driver she did not trust her death was traumatizing for those boys lets not trash their father Charles married Camilla the laws were changed Diana did not need to die for that maybe she was joking or being paranoid her boys would not rest if someone murdered her in a way she was murdered but by negligence Charles did not cause the crash the only fault he has is maybe if he loved her she would have been with him that night did she even know Amri Paul I think Mahhomed al Fayed hired him or employed him not the royals they also love their grandchildren they are not murders they were going through a divorce things get said not calling her liar I adored her as a kid still do but things get said

@frankpaya690

2 жыл бұрын

He was absolutely MAD on the one hand but he also knew he wasn't supposed to do what he did and made numerous attempts to cover his tracks so insane or not if you know right from wrong, you're culpable for what you did.

RIP Helen Morris List (1 Jan 1924- 9 Nov 1971 (aged 47), Patricia Morris List (8 Jan 1955-9 Nov 1971) (aged 16), John Frederick List (21 Oct 1956- 9 Nov 1971) (aged 15), Frederick Michael List (26 Aug 1958- 9 Nov 1971) (aged 13) and Alma Marie Barbara Florence List (12 Feb 1887- 9 Nov 1971) (aged 84) you will truly all be missed and my prayers go out to you all.

This is the first case I remember watching on 'Forensic Files'. I remember the man whom they contacted to make the bust of what List would have looked like at the time, the one used on AMW, researched and put together an image of exactly how he aged. I was hooked then--seeing how he picked the exact same style of glasses to use for the bust that List was wearing when they captured him was incredible. Lamont, I am new to your channel and am also hooked. The way you tell the story, time everything so perfectly, but most importantly give the victims the dignity and respect they deserve is outstanding. Thank you for your quality content and hard work!

The sculptor that created the bust of John List was Frank Bender. Hes the hero in all this.

@donneesf

2 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to see your comment about Frank Bender. Years, before his death, I saw a beautiful visit and interview with him, on television. What a wonderful person he was...he was surely guided by some spiritual force.

@JuCarlos-ex8ip

2 жыл бұрын

Very true

@nancybratek2461

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely I was amazed when I saw that.

I read the book about this horrible crime years ago, it still creeps me out. I also watched the trial when they finally caught him. What a evil man

This happened 9 years before I was born ...i first learned about it through my friend's grandma who lived 2 houses down at the time the list family lived there

They had other options. He was just a coward and didn't want to admit to his family he had failed at his job. He could have told the truth and sold the house that was way to big for the family. The kids are the ones I feel sorry for. They didn't have a chance.

@rahatahmed6188

5 ай бұрын

True, his mother and his wife were both bad people. You can see how their actions also led to him becoming evil.

I remember when this happened. So horrible. That man got 18 years of freedom to live and enjoy..while his family’s got cut short. God knows. I hope he had some good reasons to tell our Lord…..

@aburameshino77

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt he's gonna meet the Lord

@baconbacon3967

Жыл бұрын

@@aburameshino77 He will meet our Lord long enough to be cast into hell. OR -- if he has sought and received forgiveness, not.

Wow, I’ll never understand what goes on in a murderer’s mind to kill his entire family. R.I.P. 🕊

@JuCarlos-ex8ip

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, some people are just evil

@vickieclark5931

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I never could understand that kind of mind. I can't imagine killing a person that I don't know, not to mention my own family. These people aren't even human to do such a horrible thing.

There's never a good enough reason for murder ever. He is pathetic to make excuses. I loved Robert Blake portraying John List.

Very sad that over their dining room table was the answer to his prayers, a one of a kind Tiffany Glass sky light worth millions, he could have sold! Prayers for the family.

@marianneturner7267

2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for someone to mention that. I love Tiffany glass, would have loved to have seen the one in that house.

I loved Robert Blake as 'John List' in the movie. Your voice actor is exceptional. 🥰👏🏾

@janicegilbert4029

2 жыл бұрын

What was the name of the movie?

@redlady8296

2 жыл бұрын

@@janicegilbert4029 the John List story has Beverly D’Angelo as John List first wife. It’s a good movie. I saw it back in the late 90s.

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

I know Robert Blake made his name when he portrayed Perry Smith, one of the killers of the CLUTTER family in the film adaptation of Truman Capote's "In Cold Blood"; but I don't recall him playing John List. What movie is that because I'd love to watch it. Robert Blake is a very complex, angry, intriguing guy and one hell of an actor. He was brilliant in "In Cold Blood", which is STILL one of the best true crime movies ever made. A good follow-up movie after you watch "In Cold Blood" is the movie "Capote" starring the late Philip Seymour Hoffman as Truman Capote. Much of that film focuses on Capote's in jail interviews with Perry Smith and the somewhat strange friendship/fascination he develops with him. Truman Capote was a brilliant, eccentric, witty writer. Hoffman literally morphed into him and nailed his neurotic mannerisms, voice and lisp. I think Blake and Hoffman are two of the greatest actors of their generation.

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

@Louniece Wasn't he fantastic in the narration of that letter? Who was that? Top notch!

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

@@janicegilbert4029 I found the movie on KZread and watching it now. It's called "Judgement Day - the John List Story" starring Robert Blake and Beverly D'Angelo.

I don't think John killed his family because they wanted to do their own thing. He just wanted to start all over. R.I.P to his mother, wife, and kids.

@CDneat

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the exact same thing…

@MariaVOrtiz-ss6qp

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly he was wanted to justify his actions with that story..a true monster

@ddivincenzo1194

2 жыл бұрын

He wasn't trying to save them.

@withoutartitwouldallfallap3628

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't also not pay child support and alimony too.

May they forever rest in peace.Good commentary Lamont.

@corallewis3093

2 жыл бұрын

Ya the new house is kind of built the same.. creepy..

I knew of this story back in the '80's, and I remember when he was finally arrested. Sadly, the sculptor who made the very realistic looking likeness of List has himself passed away from cancer.

Such a sad story. My grandmother knew Helen, they were friend's. No one would have ever thought John would or could do such a horrible thing 😔

@latashaalston4350

2 жыл бұрын

So sad sorry for your grandmother's loss of her friend Helen.

@user-zs2je9ey7t

8 ай бұрын

I'm sure there were warning signs of he's deprived. Most killers have them.

I remember this when it happened & when he was found. It's horrible he killed his own family but he didn't kill himself & was able to go in living a life. Lamont you tell a story so well & I love watching your videos.

@reneerichburg7879

2 жыл бұрын

That's true u TEL IT LIKE IT IS👏👍 THANKS FOR THE INFO 😄😃 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍

@ttbaby1342

2 жыл бұрын

Cuz he didn't won't them on welfare!! It's was a lot's of poor White's as well as Black's its just they were ashamed 🤔

It is sometimes hard to believe that someone could do it.

@julosx

2 жыл бұрын

Add religious extremism, unemployment and a pinch of inbreeding, you get the recipe of a prefect criminal disaster.

Shame. They said that the skylight in their house was made by Tiffany and Co. and if they would have sold it, he would have been out of debt. At the time, it was worth 100k.

@KAriedoll

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, unbelievable. His pride had worth more to him. Sick evil man.

@aerialpyropewpew

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, thank goodness. Another person that mentioned the Skylight!

@BlessedbytheKingofKings

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that also. He may have not known anything about name brand items and just thought it was worthless.

Iv heard of this story before and just blows my mind how a parent can kill their own kids because they became a bother just so selfish.

@tinarussell3969

2 жыл бұрын

Right...and their own mother! He wiped out two generations ( I guess three, including his wife.)

@ladynikkie

2 жыл бұрын

My man was a narcissist and very selfish who gave him the right to play God and take his family's lives?!

This is one of your best Lamont. The reading of that letter showed what a complete psychopath List was. Excellent telling of a chilling crime. 👏👏👏

I was just reading about this the other day. William Bradford Bishop is another crazy one.

If there is ever a clear representation of what cowardliness and evil this guy would be it. Lamont thanks for another great video.

@bonnieharris8112

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, Lamont can really put a clear perspective on these things. I love listening to him talk.

@robertosantos-vx6pn

2 жыл бұрын

@@bonnieharris8112 Dhitto.

Mr Lamont, I appreciate you 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

I live in the next town over from Westfield. My mom and my grandparents remembered when these murders happened. Westfield definitely has a really dark/eerie feeling to it between the List murders and the Watcher house.

@kristinajockel3767

2 жыл бұрын

I lived in RP…I know exactly what you mean.

@Vince-xg7ih

2 жыл бұрын

I'm from Scotch Plains

@documentmedic9385

Жыл бұрын

I grew up in Scotch Plains in the '80's. I first heard this as a ghost story told by one of the counselors during a Lane Night at one of the Day Camps I attended. I next heard about it at school when I learned that they were going to profile him on America's Most Wanted and that some of the kids on my sister's class were going to be playing kids in List's Sunday School class during the segment. When the episode aired, I remember thinking that they were never going to catch him. You can imagine my surprise (and the rejoicing at my school) when they caught him a few weeks later.

@documentmedic9385

Жыл бұрын

I know. The combination of the List Family, the Watcher House, and it's use as the setting for the Addams Family (The cartoonist for the Addams Family lived in Westfielt and frequently referred to landmarks such as the Rialto Theater in his comic) give Westfield a spooky vibe.

@documentmedic9385

Жыл бұрын

Interestingly enough, i was living in Scotch Plains at the time the events of the Watcher House took place and don't remember hearing anything about it. I have a feeling they don''t like talking about the Watcher House too much.

This was the first true crime story I became interested in. He didn't tell his family he lost his job and got up and got dressed and left like he was going to work each day. Their house was huge and way more than they could afford, but supposedly his wife insisted. Story goes that she was an unhappy woman with a drinking problem and was not good to him at all. Who knows though, and I don't like to speak ill of the dead or a victim, and it absolutely doesn't justify what he did even if that is true. Such a tragic story and crazy how long it took them to find him.

@nadezhdawall-rossi2864

2 жыл бұрын

We will never know what went on behind closed doors. We know this much; NONE of the victims deserved what he did to them.

I’m pregnant & depressed & one of the only things I look forward to are your videos, Lamont. I don’t visit cemeteries on my own accord but I always wish I could run into you in NC 😂. Just wanted to say thanks for always making my days & nights. ♥️

@LaurenWoz421

2 жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry to hear that you are depressed while pregnant! Please talk to someone and know that you aren’t alone. I was depressed while I was pregnant also. I felt so “wrong” to be depressed because I was initially SO thrilled to be finally pregnant after many complicated losses between my first (18 years ago) and my second (9months old.) I loved being pregnant with my first. Loved my changing body, my mood was “normal”, loved the maternity clothes, it was so exciting so I couldn’t understand WHY I was soo depressed this time. It isn’t like me at all, I’m a glass half full, smile through my struggles and stay positive, lift others up type of person when not pregnant. Literally, my nickname is “sunshine”. But Hormones do crazy things and I learned quickly that every pregnancy is very different. Many people didn’t even know I was pregnant. Due to vivid but I also couldn’t get motivated to move off the couch most days. My body felt like it was 1,000lbs dragging it around- but it had nothing to do with my actual weight. I was healthy and on track, had everything to be thankful for. I don’t want to make this about me - please don’t take this that way! I just want you to know that you are not alone in feeling like you do. After I had my baby the hormone began to immediately die down and within a few days I was feeling more and more like “me”. I pray the same happens for you. It’s made me afraid to consider having another- along with all of the losses I had, but more so I’m afraid to feel that way again. I wish I had been able to enjoy being pregnant, it’s such a beautiful thing! Sometimes people feel better while pregnant too, so depending where you are at in your pregnancy it can get better. I pray for your health and strength - physically and mentally and your baby’s health too of course. ♥️♥️♥️

@Tarotcooks

2 жыл бұрын

Best thing for depression - - - keep busy. Your new baby will surely keep you busy ❤️🙏

@applepie1923

2 жыл бұрын

Ma’am you are pregnant and depressed? Why would you watch a show about a man that murdered his whole family? How can help your depression in any way? Not trying to be mean, just wondering. He killed the woman who gave birth to him.

@heididietrich9800

2 жыл бұрын

You can email me if you want. Sorry you are depressed. Hugs.

@Mesmerizing398

2 жыл бұрын

Brighter Days are Coming❤️

Well done Lamont. I remember when this happened. No matter how many times I hear this story I find it unbelievable. John List was just a crazy man. May his family RIP🙏🏽

@MeMe-nw9mq

2 жыл бұрын

John List wasn’t crazy. Just cold and calculating. His family had become a burden and a liability to him. If he was truly concerned about his family’s well being there were other options he could have explored to alleviate the family’s financial difficulties. We all go through hard times and stressful situations. The majority of us don’t see killing our family as a viable solution to our problems.

Thanx Lamont. The John List case was my request. Good job done!

This is my neck of the woods and I have been fascinated by this story for a long time now. So very sad, so very sad. 😭

They were living very nicely on an accountants income! My dad was an accountant and we lived very modestly, a simple apartment. Nothing special, just ordinary and it's all we needed. Some people live way beyond their means trying to "keep up with the Jones" (or Kardashians) and it brings so much grief. It's sad 😥

@darensmith6705

2 жыл бұрын

I agree ! There are wants and needs! I have a Master's degree is Special Education, drive a 17 year old PT-Cruiser ,have never owned a computer, I always used the computers at the public library ( already paid for and constantly upgraded ) with tax dollars and I quit Cable TV when I went to graduate school in the 1980's. Never hooked it back up, I read, & watch DVD's I borrow from the library on an older style TV. Why but a new TV if the one you have still works????? "Downwardly mobile and Loving it!" Or as I call myself "Urban Amish"! I best or the newest stuff never impressed me!

@darensmith6705

2 жыл бұрын

Please excuse my errors ! Texting without my glasses! LOL!

@darensmith6705

2 жыл бұрын

Car Insurance for my 17 year old car is only $30.00/ month! Took Collision off and only have Liability!

@jayrussell99

3 ай бұрын

​​Stfu if the car is not paid for a person has to have collision amd comprehensive. You can only have liability if its paid for. Your car must be a peice of shittt for only 30$ of course its going to be cheap your car is old as hell and paid for ​@@darensmith6705

This case was always fascinating to me. I saw it for the first time on the 1989 first release date on America's Most Wanted. It was a good show. I followed the story through his arrest and trial. Several years later they made a movie about it. It was chilling absolutely chilling.

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

What is the name of the movie as I would love to watch it since I understand it stars Robert Blake.

@sarah2.017

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiamia7139 It's called "Judgment Day: The John List Story."

@tiamia7139

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarah2.017 Thank you! I watched it on KZread today.

@timmytube12

2 жыл бұрын

Me my sister and brother watched this show back in the 90's.

I remember this murder being profiled on American Most Wanted multiple of times.

Thanks lamont for another interesting story take care my friend much love from England 🇬🇧❤ 🇬🇧 ❤

Once again a great story Lamont. The person that did the sculpture of List did a great job. The likeness was amazing.

Hello, Lamont!! Thank you for another great video! Safe travels always🧡

Oh my God! What a terrifying story! And how sad! There is no sin living on state welfare. This horror story would make a very shocking film. I could listen to you for hours. You have a most beautiful way of describing the facts, and a beautiful voice! Greetings from Spain.

@darensmith6705

2 жыл бұрын

I bet he was a Republican and would have voted for Trump!

@crazydiamond4565

2 жыл бұрын

@@darensmith6705 🙄 Get over it

@Nstar365

Жыл бұрын

I think we could do WITH LESS OF THESE TYPES OF FILM! 🙄

I remember too watching that episode. The first Chris Watts. Heartbreaking to know that the Tiffany Skylight would have solved their money problems and then some. He pretended to go to work everyday. Ugh. He played God. Selfish

At the time of John List getting caught, I was friends with a guy who lived in Westfield. He drove me past the place where the house once stood. Years later, I visited the gravesite where the List family were buried to pay my respects.

After hearing that letter read aloud, I can understand the struggle he was dealing with. However, he sure didn't lean on his faith enough to see through to the other side. He let the devil talk him into that murder plot. We all struggle when times get tough and things are desperate. However true Christians, know who to lean on. It's not our selvs and our abilities to provide, it's God's. He took matters into his own hands and killed his family. Whereas he should have been on his knees and praying more earnestly for them. What a tragedy.

@umopepisdn.

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be honest. His problem isn't that he wasn't faithful enough. He saw his family as a burden and used God to make him look like not such a bad guy. He was evil in his heart.

@Momma_Tomma

2 жыл бұрын

@@umopepisdn. You don't know the heart, just as much as I don't. You don't know exactly what was going on in his brain. Only God does. Thank God that He's the ultimate Judge and jury in this matter.

What's so weird about this evil is its 2022 and the senseless killing continues, God help us.🕊

There no justification of doing any killings especially your family it's a shame there's people out there to always do harm to others rip

That letter is very chilling! May his family continue to rest in eternal peace.

I was probably watching this episode the same time in Toronto in 1989 as you were in California cause I watched America's Most Wanted every week also.I also saw this case on Medical Detectives so I knew about it well.This is however the first time I have seen their house and graveside. R.I.P to the List family and I really liked the fact you did this high profiled case.Thank you as always Lamont.

I remember this case very well. The dude is in a special level of Hell, for sure.

I feel so sorry for the friends and other family members of the victims! Sad.

List was a psychopath who made excuses to get rid of the burden that was his family. He seemed to tire of trying to make ends meet and apparently thought murdering them was a solution?

I was a little kid living in Mountainside about 5 mins from where this happened. I remember this well as it really upset and scared my Dad as it was rumored List was hiding out in the reservation by my home. This guy was definitely the Boogeyman to not only us kids but to our parents as well. So thankful for John Walsh who helped catch him!

This was one of the first episodes I watched when I discovered Forensic Files on KZread. It always gives me chills. It was really chilling when they showed the picture of his wife's body. I didn't even know that his parents were first cousins.

One thing that is seldom mentioned is that Helen List had a daughter from her first husband, who was already married and living elsewhere when this happened. She, too died at a young age, although IIRC from natural causes. (Probably catalyzed by grief.)

@INDYFA

2 жыл бұрын

Wow Sarah thanks for sharing. Do you know where I can read more about her first marriage?

@sarah2.017

2 жыл бұрын

@@INDYFA If you Google "Helen List first marriage," you can find out quite a bit. She had a daughter, who died in 1993, and a son who died as a baby.

Hey Lamont. Safe travels to you!

what a coincidence, I was just talking about this case with my wife last week. Very interesting, thanks for what you do, now a lot of people who never heard of it will know about it.

A new level of sickness indeed. There have many tragedies that occurred like this one. A person takes their aggression out on their family members through a horrible murder.😐

This story is so interesting Lamot is so thorough on all his research when advising his audience What a story on this which requires alot if research and in turn brings it to us its very well done. Lamont is very good in what he's doing no one could ever take his place.

Hi Lamont just to add some information to the story he also called all his children's schools and told them his kids will be gone for a while. Also which is so bizarre and sad is he was so hard up for money that unknown to him he had actually a gold mine, $$$ in his house. From what I remember hearing I think it was some kind of glass or architect structure in his house worth $$$$. That is so sad. If only. To late. 😢🥺

@brega6286

2 жыл бұрын

Origional Tiffany stained glass rotunda.

@maryparker7872

2 жыл бұрын

@@brega6286 Thanks I knew that at one time and forgot.

@jayrussell99

3 ай бұрын

What happened to the glass now . Was it ever sold by the new home owners ​@@brega6286

How John tried to justify these murders is beyond my understanding. I believe he wanted a new life and his family wasnt welcomed to come along!

@junglekutz5625

Жыл бұрын

This guy was so off, he literally said he spited god because he didn't answer his prayers, denying him of what he wanted/his plans. Some folk are just made up of a bunch of stuff that they pick and choose out of convenience to cater to their ego, life and interest. Minus having any type of respect or reverence for where anything around them truly comes from and is ***connected to. Most don't see, neither can realize this because they're doing the same shit to.

Mr List was very sick and twisted individual wasn’t he. What the hell makes someone do this is beyond me. Lamont, you should come to Frankenmuth, Michigan. Mr List’s mother is buried at St Lorenz Lutheran cemetery.

@2anthro

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! There's the missing person from the tombstone.

@jenniferfreytag7632

2 жыл бұрын

@@2anthro the Lutheran church and cemetery is quite big for a small town. It is a tourist town.

This story has always fascinated me. I'm sort of embarrassed that I was saddened that someone burned the house down and destroyed a one-of-a-kind tiffany sky light. Is that wrong?

@nadezhdawall-rossi2864

2 жыл бұрын

YES!

@aerialpyropewpew

2 жыл бұрын

@@nadezhdawall-rossi2864 yes it's wrong that I'm sad about a one of kind tiffany sky light?

John List speaks like a true psychopath. Blames his environment, blames others, but won't take the blame himself. A psychopath is always the innocent one with pure motives. Makes me want to upchuck. Since John loved the Word of God, I remind him of John 3:15 ... Every one that hates his brother is a murderer, and ye know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

@ardensinn8518

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Very fitting.

@darensmith6705

2 жыл бұрын

He was probably a Republican and would have voted for Trump! Another Ted Bundy , who was also the President of the Young Republicans Club in college! Just saying!

@timothyscavo8510

2 жыл бұрын

@@darensmith6705 And what's politics got to do with any of this? The Las Vegas shooter was an atheist and Democrat supporter. So what's your brilliant point?

The glass ceiling in the great room was made by Tiffany and Company. It was worth 1/2 million dollars. If only he would have known.

@jayrussell99

3 ай бұрын

So what happened to the ceiling now ?

@H_H_____

2 ай бұрын

If they didn't remove the ceiling before the fire, it likely was destroyed in the fire.

I've always been fascinated by this story. I remember seeing the episode of America's Most Wanted the night that this was first broadcast. I also remember how they caught John List because of that uncanny bust of an aged John List. May his family rest in peace. I also find it extremely ironic that the original mansion's ballroom had a stained-glass skylight that was signed by L.C. Tiffany and was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars even in 1971. The sale of that piece of exquisite art would have solved all of the List's financial woes and allowed them to live.

I remember that John Wash had a program about him! That’s how they found him! Love ❤️ your videos!

This is by far your best video. The List case is fascinating and they way you started this by reading the letter John List left is excellent.

I've studied this case for a long time. He was a religious fanatic/tyrant. He was raised a mama's boy, and was very controlled by his mother. He was a chronic failure in his accounting work, because of his utter inability to relate to other employees. His wife was disgusted with him after years of his failures and religious fanaticism. He hated anyone who didn't think the way he did. His mother gave him power of attorney over her considerable amount of money when he asked her to move into the Westfield house. He stole almost all of it. He was afraid of her finding that out, which was one reason he killed her. He was enraged at his wife and kids for their disdain for his religious fanaticism. He killed his wife and kids because he didn't think they deserved to live. And then he ran, and hid out for almost 18 years. The Westfield police sent flyers out to every Lutheran church they could find in America, asking for their help if he ever came to one of their churches, but they refused. Revolting! And when he was asked why he didn't kill himself after what he'd done, he said "That would have been a sin!" He had no shame or conscience concerning his murders...he thought he was completely justified in what he did. He was happy in prison...he was being taken care of, and could pretend to be a pure christian to his fellow prisoners. List was a purely revolting and cowardly creature...just horrible. When I read that he had died, I thought to myself, now he's finally facing true and deserved justice!

Thanks Lamont for upload!

Hello Lamont hope you’re ok 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Unbelievably Evil 😈 To just go on with his life, like nothing happened. 😡

Lamont, I appreciate yu for caring abt ppl that have no voice or that were wronged.sending you prosperity, good favor and good will...

Hi lamont im from Georgetown Guyana 🇬🇾

Lamont you told the story perfectly. I remember watching this on Unsolved Mysteries as well and I also saw a documentary on it. Makes me sick to my stomach I cannot fathom how someone can kill their entire family or anyone for that matter. I'm pretty sure the God that I serve and love is not the same one that this man had proclaimed to love and serve. Rest in peace to this beautiful family.

Such a sad story! Thanks for covering this one Lamont…. God Bless

Hi lamont, thanks for the great video as always. Hit it out of the park with this one. Be well and safe.

You can run but ya can't hide! Good story Lamont,thank you!

Been waiting on this one! Awesome job

I remember seeing this story several years ago on cable tv and couldn't remember if he was caught or not. I am so glad. You can run but you can't hide.

Damn crazy how he can still live his life for 18 years smh

@theinsightfulvisionary0197

2 жыл бұрын

It sure is!!!:but it took a while, but I was so glad when that evil coward was caught!!!

Oh wow..you covered this story. Brilliantly done, as usual. ✨ HOW could someone being a so called “Christian” act out such a heinous crime as this? Your babies too? Then take off and live your life? 😳🤬 I can’t 🤦🏼‍♀️😭 Oh, we’ll remember you John in our prayers..that you are.. 🔥🔥🔥🔥 😈

@kimberleerivera3334

2 жыл бұрын

Surely you know that not all who "claim" to be Christian, are truly Christian.

I had heard the story of this family, RIP. thanks for sharing it L.A.L .

Great video Lamont. You taught me more about this case than I originally thought I knew. Keep up the good work!

Another great video. The List and Defao family murders always get my full attention. I will never understand how anyone can kill their entire family and then expect keep on loving themselves.

Thanks Lamont 😊

Hi everyone! I hope you all have a great day!

@johndowney8575

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you have a great day too✌❤

@AcousticGString

2 жыл бұрын

@@johndowney8575 Thank you!

@lisaholland102

2 жыл бұрын

You as well blessings to you

@AcousticGString

2 жыл бұрын

@@lisaholland102 Thank you ☺

@lisaholland102

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcousticGString your very welcome 💕

Excellent job L! I remember this name but not much of the story revolving around it...til now...your a Great story teller and missed your calling as a History teacher....you have a great nack for laying out a story from beginning to end! ...Very interesting! Thanks!👍

More brilliant stories and story telling from the master, Lamont. This story is beyond the pale.

Hello Lamont love your videos. Just letting you know lately there is a guy on you tube that has been trashing you he said on the video he was going to dig into your past. Just letting you know as a friend. He’s a troll

@louniece1650

2 жыл бұрын

So many weirdos out there.

@ashleyvalentine2790

2 жыл бұрын

I also saw that. People are evil. I reported the troll.

@gregorychapman3122

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashleyvalentine2790 good 👍

@ravenmckinnon5526

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares? He’s a troll

Wow Mr. A'Large, your videos are evolving sir. More sophisticated. The primitive and the sophisticated.. I like them all.

Fantastic job on this story, Lamont!! I just love your channel. God bless!

I saw that episode of AMW when it first aired as well. The sculptor of the bust explained how he had to collect as much data on List as he could. His personal habits, his lifestyle. Does he smoke? Does he drink? All of those are contributing factors as to how he would age. I have to say that he nailed it! The talents of that sculptor played a big part in List's apprehension. Justice was eventually served thanks to him!