Prim deserves a medal for being the most important character in the series that simultaneously did absolutely nothing.

@lucygarrett9785

Жыл бұрын

I’ve never seen a character described so perfectly

@rafaelnegron7007

Жыл бұрын

You're wrong.

@jbax6504

Жыл бұрын

@@rafaelnegron7007 no they aren’t

@bellaknightR597

Жыл бұрын

​@rafaelnegron7007, what did she do then?

@AspenMatabi

Жыл бұрын

Yep. She does.

I feel like Prim's death symbolizes that the story is so much bigger than just her. While in so many ways, she is the reason for the direction the story went, there was still so many more lives at stake. Because of her, Katniss made the decisions she made and even had to continue doing so after Prim's death. While she wasn't there physically anymore, her spirt and all that Kat stood for will always be there. She was a martyr for sure.

@lodgin

Жыл бұрын

One of the things I love about The Hunger Games is that, Snow says in his eulogy to Katniss when he believed her dead: "[Katniss was] a poor, unstable girl with a small talent with a bow and arrow. Not a great thinker, not the mastermind of the rebellion, merely a face plucked from the rabble because [she] had caught the nation's attention with [her] antics in the Games." Everything he says is true... Katniss is no way The Chosen One (TM). She doesn't have some special gift: she is not Harry Potter destined to kill Voldemort; she is not Moses; she's not Ender Wiggin born to kill the Buggers; she's not the Dragon Warrior; she's not the key to a virus by running through mazes; she's not Arthur Pendragon, etc. The Mockingjar symbol came from her friend, Madge; her fire and style came from her stylist, Cinna; her desirability and likability came from Peeta; her tragedy came from Prim; her strategy came from Haymitch, etc. What Katniss brought to the table was her spirit. She sparked the war, yes, but the war wasn't _about_ her.

@nmoney6655

Жыл бұрын

I got so pissed when she and Finnick died

@tmm4195

Жыл бұрын

@@lodgin I read something about this movie, and it said, "what if the chosen one wasn't chosen." That always stuck with me. Katniss wasn't the chosen one, but she was the only person that could inspire people to go through with this war. She was the hope the people needed.

@rafaelnegron7007

Жыл бұрын

Kill her at the beginning or end would've not mattered.

@brianstabile165

Жыл бұрын

She died as a medic due to enemy fire so that others may live,all while her sister a “spec ops commander” is treated like a hero Rest in peace devil dog

I also like that Rue is compared to Prim in such a way that Rue was and is as important to Katniss as Prim was to her. “Rue. Primrose. None of them can tip the scale at seventy pounds soaking wet.” In other words, prim shaped the way that katniss interacted with the world, and in seeing rue, who reminded katniss of her little sister, she started a revolution. One meant to bring peace and love, becuase katniss dared to love and take care of her sister

Suzanne collins isn’t afraid to kill off many people’s favourite characters in both her bestselling novels. Prim and finnick in the hunger games and Ares and Hamnet in the underland chronicles. But out of all these deaths prims was easily the most devastating to me. her development from a scared little girl to a frontlines medic for the resistance was an amazing thing to both read and watch; just for it to be cut short by bombs dropped by people she trusted as ally’s.

@nmoney6655

Жыл бұрын

I knew we was gonna to have to discuss this but for real Finnick didn’t deserve it neither did Cinna or Prim

@tmm4195

Жыл бұрын

@@nmoney6655 They didn't deserve it, but like Snow said, these things happen in war. A lot of senseless deaths.

@angelicafandino9877

Жыл бұрын

I love the underland chronicles! Something about that ending still haunts me

@SF-pj6xv

Жыл бұрын

Stupid gale and coin no reason for that!

@HelenaTing0624

Жыл бұрын

@@nmoney6655 which was exactly the point Suzanne Collins wanted to get across. In war all deaths are senseless and no one deserves it. She wanted to make you feel even a sliver of the horrors of war through her work

The scene where Katniss shouts at Buttercup after everything that has happened really hits me to the core as though everything that she had went through was useless now that Prim is gone (basically going through every stage of griefing), eventually realising that the cat is what keeps Prim's memory alive.

If Katniss never volunteered for Prim, she most likely would’ve been killed by Cato and the story never would’ve happened and, most likely, they would still be under the tyrannical rule of Coriolanus Snow

@Bostonterrierslol

Жыл бұрын

And Peeta would most likely be killed first trying to protect Prim from the careers simply because she’s Katniss’s sister

@a_sinan

10 ай бұрын

Maybe prim and peeta would have teamed up with district 11 tributes since i could easily imagine prim and rue being friends

@kozo1325

6 ай бұрын

Then Tresh would have died first, later on Peeta 😭😭😭😭

@ozzy69lax

2 ай бұрын

I feel like the theory she was set up to be chosen was planned is right but after Katniss won the plans had to be changed. Basically Prim was meant to be the Mockingjay, avenging the death of her sister who volunteered in her place. She was younger and less rebellious as well as would have been a great face on the front lines for the cameras. Either way, a sister was going to be sacrificed to perpetuate the rise of district 13.

Honestly, I think Prim is a marvelous character. She is very kind and clearly smart. One of my favorites for sure!

prim's death pissed me of so much when i watched it for the first time. Like, everything started when katniss wanted to protect her sister, but in the end she protected every possible tribute but not her sister. heartbreaking.

I love how she turned from a terrified,panicked near hunger games participant to a rebel medic against the capital government that she barely escaped from.

I would love if you did a Deepdive of each District with its hidden meanings and go into full detail about each of them and what they represent as we know the districts do act as symbolizing like with District 11 representing slavery in America.

@zoehuang7531

Жыл бұрын

Ya

@hyacinth51

Жыл бұрын

That would be so cool

@natnuss98

Жыл бұрын

There isn't a whole lot of info on most districts

@twinklerose1033

Жыл бұрын

@@natnuss98 Which is why it would be fun to theorize on them

@aliyahmahmood6442

Жыл бұрын

@@zoehuang7531 pop n

Prim, in my opinion, represents the oppressed people (both citizens and hunger games participants) and how many of them are sacrificed jsut for a system to work. Her physical absence in the film profoundly symbolizes how many of us easily forget and take for granted that so many people had to die along the process of this sadistic world. That these very same people are capable of character growth and development, but had to all die to make a point that the system does not work anymore. Prim doesn't have to always be in the film, just as all the people who died in the games didn't have to always be mentioned, but they are there. They are part of the bigger picture. Prim is you. You who's worth protecting.

Rereading hunger games as an adult with PTSD, I realized, damn... this entire series is about PTSD. And trauma in general.

@SlayingSuperNerdX

7 ай бұрын

makes sense Peeta and Johanna suffered from capitol torture Finnick was sold into prostitution, Katniss suffers from flashbacks in Catching Fire,

I think we can all agree that, as vile as Snow is, Alma Coin was far worse. Like Snow himself said- he's not above killing children, but he's never taken life without "reason". Katniss singlehandedly saved Panem from an even worse monster than Snow.

@CaptainPikeachu

7 ай бұрын

This implies that Coin took lives without reason though? Which is not true. Sure maybe she wasn’t specifically targeting Prim but let’s remember that the bombing was done so that it would turn the Capitol against Snow and it worked. So Coin is simply exactly like Snow. She too was willing to kill for a reason.

@LilacSreya

2 ай бұрын

Not exactly fair to just write off Coin as worse since we don’t see much. Her reign ended before it began. Who’s to say she would have been worse? Are we gonna put all blame on her and ignore the rest of the citizens? This plot isn’t unrealistic, but these kind of things give a wrong impression to rebellions against tyranny. :/

Prim was such an amazing character. As an oldest child with a sister who was frail, I related to Katniss' need and desire to protect her. It also made me more attached to Prim than I might've been otherwise.

Does anyone think toward the end as Katniss and Gale are headed to the capital, when Gale gets snatched by Peacekeepers and Katniss is free to keep going, that maybe those peacekeepers were district 13 people dressed in the uniforms (ordered by Coin) to grab Gale and keep him safe while hoping Katniss would get killed in the district 13 bombing of the capital that killed Prim

@Boundwithflame23

Жыл бұрын

That’s an interesting theory. He seems to have gotten away relatively unscathed from what we know since we see him apologizing to Katniss later. Though I think she was in intensive care for a long time (I know at least in the books she had very extensive burns all over her body; probably had to tone it down in the movie to maintain the PG-13 rating) so if he did have any injuries he probably would have long since recovered from them by that point. 🤔

@silentbliss7666

8 ай бұрын

As I recalled, Gale kept shouting for Katniss to shoot him after he was arrested by the peacekeepers

No matter how many times I watch the scene or read that book, I always cry when she dies. It's such a senseless death that can only be attributed to the price of war... Not many people like Mockingjay, but I loved it, because it is so realistic.

@hiswayservicesblog9288

11 ай бұрын

Right. My sister and I cry, but that was one of the reasons I fell in love with Suzanne's books. They were very, very realistic! But at least at the end of this series, Peeta and Katniss have a good ending. Mind you, I said good NOT perfect. They are not unscathed by any means, but they still are able to build a beautiful life together, which they more than deserve!

I see a lot of Prim in myself. I grew up in tough times, being the youngest of 3 of a single mother. I'm also an avid animal lover. I have 2 cats of 21 years old and got them when I was in 2nd grade and now almost 28. I always tell people I would feed my cats before I feed myself, even if that means going without eating for a couple of days like my own mother did with me and my 2 sisters! Keep up the great work, and I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos!

There's actually this funny story I have about Prim. My Mom was reading the Hunger Games Mockingjay and said how much she liked Prim as a character and called her her favorite character. And all my family and I who had read all 3 books already... could only just hold our breaths because we all knew that Prim died... and boy was Mom mad when we didn't tell her that Prim died and she had to find that out the hard way.

@NotSoNooby31

9 ай бұрын

haha, thats gold 😂

@FourLifersX

Ай бұрын

Lollll

I always felt that Prim's death symbolized that in war even when you win you lose because of the price you have to pay. Everyone paid a price to win the war. Peeta lost his family, Gale lost Katniss, Mrs. Everdeen lost both her daughters and Katniss lost her sister. If you ask me Mrs. Everdeen got it the worst. At least Peeta and Katniss have each other and had kids. Gale most likely got married too but Mrs. Everdeen ended up alone all because Katniss couldn't forgive her for losing it when the father died. Oh and Haymitch but I think he still got it better than Mrs. Everdeen. I'd like to think he felt some comfort living next to Katniss and Peeta.

Prim was a great character but I swear imagine volunteering to be in the hunger games to save your sisters life just for her to end up dying

When I read catching fire for the first time, I thought for certain that prim was going to be chosen again and Katniss was going to be forced to be her mentor. I do like where the story went instead, but I still think this plot direction could have been interesting.

@superiorgaming9399

9 ай бұрын

Yea, for sure, I think that definitely would've been an interesting way for the story to go.

Prim, Rue and Cinna are my three favourite characters…. AND THRY ALL DIE 😢

1:45 “although Prim had a happy family…” Them literally crying: 💀

@FourLifersX

Ай бұрын

Lol

It's amazing seeing prim's point of view and her background as a character that we really don't see much in the movies. I love how deep u went with it. Thank u

“Dear did you have a nice walllkkkk?” “Walk!? I-“ “ *We have visitors* “ 😂😂😂

@FourLifersX

Ай бұрын

Lol

It's very ironic how Prim and her father died via explosions

Her life may have started with humble and quiet beginnings, but her importance led to her last moments ending with a bang 🥰 inspiring

@Ilevsnek68

Жыл бұрын

PHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTTTT

@moonofterror

Жыл бұрын

I'm dead,💀 (no I'm not dead, unlike prim. it's just a metaphor) (prim emoji)

@caseellovelike143

Жыл бұрын

Very Btch wtf

@TheRibottoStudios

Жыл бұрын

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckin CHRIST got damn lol

@beep5654

Жыл бұрын

@@moonofterror 😮

Excellent breakdown on Prim. Thank you. I can tear up over her character. Prim was solid and loyal. She was one of the few characters in the series who never disappointed and commanded respect at all times.

You should have put in more about Coin. The movies left out how complicit she was in Prim's death, and so did this video. In the books, she proved time and again that she had to be in absolute control. Well, absolute power corrupts absolutely. She couldn't control Katniss, so she took away the only one Katniss cared about. I don't like that Gale is being called a villain here. He's just a boy who found a talent for weapons and traps, something to be used against an enemy. It was Coin that ordered the attack, and then put Prim in the path of those bombs just to get back at Katniss for not being her good little public slave. When a person is shot, you blame the person who pulled the trigger, not the manufacturer of the gun or the bullets. You said this was going to be about the books, but it only was until the end. Then you followed the movie.

@gretaanderson5406

Жыл бұрын

I believe there is a video about Coin

@clearly_a_raccon

11 ай бұрын

Honestly coin was worse than snow. It took me a while to even try and get my head around the ending but when I realized I was so glad coin was dead.

@Oliviarodrigoisthebes

25 күн бұрын

Gale was literally targeting MEDICS, though. He didn't know prim would be there, but what he did was still horrible.

@FlanylShirtman

25 күн бұрын

@@Oliviarodrigoisthebes Bombs and traps are indiscriminate. When triggered, they take out whoever is nearby, not just the person who tripped the device. Coin knew the plan. That's why she sent Prim's team there. Gale didn't know she was going to do that. This is 100% on Coin, not Gale.

@Oliviarodrigoisthebes

25 күн бұрын

@@FlanylShirtman the whole point of the bombs gale made was that they exploded once, there would be some time for medics to come in and help, and they'd explode again, killing the medics.

I love this commentary because I have never looked at prim as such an important part of the story. But now that you mention it she is a huge influence on the book and the choices in the book. Prim is an amazing character I love her she is so sweet.

I noticed that during the segments that use still character images while you narrate, the backgrounds are actually moving instead of being another still image that zooms in and out. I really like this change to your video style! Keep it up, man! Even though Prim's death helped Katniss realize the villainy of Gale and Coin, it doesn't make it any easier to read or watch. Looking forward to what else you've got in store, and would love to see you cover more the Avatar: The Last Airbender franchise, especially if you do a character tier list for the series like you did with Harry Potter!

@omarhisham1745

Жыл бұрын

In the books Gale didn't know what his weapon was used for

Besides her mother and gail Prim was the one person who knows Katniss inside and out It's really sad what happened to her character at the end.

Prim and Rue are the same age? How did I not know that.

Heck, towards the end of the series, I could not stop crying 😭 when Peeta planted primrose flowers 🌺.

@hiswayservicesblog9288

11 ай бұрын

That's the scene that gets me! That's the one for sure!

Me: Yes! More Hunger Games and it’s about Prim! (Remembers her ultimate fate) Oh… wait.

Can we please have a minute silence of respect and reminder for Primrose Everdeen

@bobyen422

Жыл бұрын

no bc she died for nothing, she literally joined the battle and should've just stayed behind

16:49 she agrees to the hunger games as a ploy because she’s realized Coin killed her sister she was being very strategic

It was shocking to what happened to her but it was a full circle of what prim means so much to katniss and a huge role in the story. She deserves so much more.

I have been watching your channel for years, and as always, I'm amazed at how well you write and research your videos! As someone with a much older sister (eight years older), I know what it's like to be in awe of your sister. To think they will always protect you from harm, but as you get older and realize that you are strong and capable, that with their protection you once received from them is now in your hands. I like the Hunger Games movies, and watching your video about Prim reminded me of the bond sisters have, and it made me love my sister more because of that. So thank you for that!

If Katniss hadn't volunteered for Prim the whole movies/books would have been completely different Prim didn't deserve to die R.I.P Primrose Everdeen Prim died because she was only trying to help others

Yes please do more hunger games content

What really breaks my heart is how much shorter this video is than other characters that you've covered. It really shows that her death, while crucial to the story, came way too soon 😔

Prim is a great character with a really great arc I like to imagine that Katniss probably named her daughter Rose (the second half of Prim’s name)

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I expect she named both her children after people in the rebellion who died, at least as their middle name. Maybe her son’s name/middle name was Finnick or Cinna

@lucygarrett9785

Жыл бұрын

@@Amatureb more likely Cinna cuz I think Finnick’s son was named Finnick

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

@@lucygarrett9785 I agree, cinna is more likely, especially because Katniss had a very close connection with him

@erin2215

Жыл бұрын

Suzanne Collins said in an interview their kids were called Willow and Rye

@aurora_bae

7 ай бұрын

Idt Katniss will do that, because she loved her sister very much. It would hurt too much seeing a reminder of Prim every time

Prim needs a Nobel peace prize for motivating Katniss

Prim used to be my favourite character when i read the books for the first time, i was 11-12 at the time and a huge animal lover too, with the dream of becoming a vet etc...I was really devastated when she died 🥲

I’m so happy about the return of the hunger games content!!! 💕 you Morgan!

literally OBSESSED with your videos since 2020 love them so much please make more hunger games videos❤

The revolution started and ended with Prim

This is amazing! You really do put a lot of work into this stuff and I really appreciate it

After so many years, her death still hurts 💔

I started reading Harry Potter and Hunger Games because of these videos! And I can't wait for the new Hunger Games movie!! So thanks for getting me into these emotional and lovely series'!

Just wanted to say that your videos carried me through Quarantine and I’ll never forget that, much love!❤

Remember in the middle of the night when they are talking about Katniss being the mockingjay prim says “I’m good at keeping secrets. Even from mother.” LIKE WHAT DOES SHE KNOW THAT WE DONT!?

I’ve never watched your channel before and I am not disappointed by the first one I saw(this one). Good job, thank you for making entertaining content. Much appreciated!

I hated the scene where Katniss took out her grief on Primrose's cat Buttercup.

@NisarKhan-jm1uh

Ай бұрын

But you have to admit that it was such an emotionally powerful scene,and shows how great of an actress Jennifer Lawrence is.

We love you, Prim! Rest in peace!

I love these videos Morgan! Keep up the good work!

Thanks for doing a video about Prim!

THANK YOU MORE HUNGER GAMES CONTENT! See this why I stay sub’d to Movie Flame, the same reason I found and started watching his videos to begin with, Hunger Games Lore😊. Thank you thank you 🙏🏼🫶🏼👌🏼

Dude I would just like to thank you for all the work you put into these videos

love the information and editing

I saw the poll you put out and voted for not prim. I hope you will still do a deep dive into characters that we didn't learn much about! Great content. ❤

As in the Harry Potter franchise, your masterful research and presentation really makes your videos the ones to watch for a deeper understanding of presented topic.

Yes! Another hunger games video!!!!! I thought it was over after the last one. THANK YOU♥️

Thank you for doing one for Prim! Thank you!

THG is my fav series! Been waiting for another HG video. Thanks for the awesome work!!

YES THANK YOU SO MUCH IVE ASKED FOR THIS AND WAS WAITING AND IT FINALLY CAME

Actually prim was waiting for her sister not her dad then went to the mine entrance in the hopes of seeing him there or coming out

I love these Hunger Games videos and I hadn’t thought about the fact that the series sort of came full circle when she died

She grew up a lot. It was sad her life cut short. Good work on the video

Loved this video, Prim is such a important character to the main character Katniss, really well told! Was only a little bit distracted by the picture swap sounds, mabye without? 🤗😁

The story of Prim is sort of complicated. Her character is played by one of the most beautiful actresses. It makes her role and..eventual demise, so damn heartbreaking.

I have been WAITING for this!

I wish Suzanne Collins had just left Prim SERIOUSLY injured, like in a coma that they didn't know if she was going to wake up in, so katniss would still have a reason to kill coin, but Prim didn't deserve to die.

I love the hunger games content it’s what I first saw from your channel also please do Cato next

@michaeel4701

Жыл бұрын

No cap i got so triggered when i saw that people chose prim over cato. He needs to do one about cato asap

Yesss I’ve been waiting for another hunger games vid

I was actually watching the first movie again the other day and had a thought that a movie about Cinna, his life, and why he supported the revolution would make great movie potential

THANK YOU!!! This video is WONDERFUL!!!

This was such an amazing video!!!

Hey MovieFlame, not sure if you’ll ever see this, but you and Merphy Napier were some of my inspirations in making my own channel. I love your video essay type discussion on hunger games, HP and my favorite young adult series Percy Jackson! Keep being great!

@jaredAkyaw

Жыл бұрын

Or Morgan… it just felt weird to write that lol

Prim has always been my favourite character in The Hunger Games and will forever will be.

Glad to see more hunger games vids!

Thank you so much for this hunger games video, I thought it was cool. I would also like to say I really like all of your videos but I wish you did more Percy Jackson and hunger games videos. Keep up the great work

I love that you go by the book the book is always better!!! Thank you for the hard work and long hours you put into these videos. I love your channel 😊

I’ve been looking forward to this

I wonder what a comparison would look like between the "richest" and "poorest" parts in each district.

@Amatureb

Жыл бұрын

yea that would be cool. I expect that the poorest parts of districts one and two probably have about the same amount as the richest parts in twelve (except the victors in 12)

I can't believe I share a birthday with Prim. The more you know One of the things I noticed while rereading was the symbolism of Lady and Buttercup, as foreshadowing for Prim's death. Katniss describes Buttercup as a useful creature, and considered it deserving, while thinking of Buttercup as kind of a waste of resources that was only worth it becuase Prim liked him. In close to the same breath, she volunteers to the games to save her sister from them. Later on, Lady dies in the bombing of 12th, and Buttercup somehow survives. Buttercup is used as enterntainment and hope for those in the bunker with the game with the lights. Katniss becomes entettainment and hope through being the mockingjay, and Prim dies in a bombing. And after all that, both Katniss and Buttercup survive and go back to 12th to lick their wounds and heal somehow

Please please please I would LOVE if you did a books vs movies for The Hunger Games PLEASE MORGAN

I would just like to say I love your channel ❤

bro you dropped this at the perfect time i have to read the hunger games for my english essay 😭😭

@caseellovelike143

Жыл бұрын

Omg you are so lucky.

Perfect video ❤

Prim was a martyr for a revolution that lasted for 1 arrow, and damn was it the best revolution of the series

Great vid.

Willow Shields, the actress that played her in the movies, is from my hometown. I heard she was at one of the midnight premieres at one of our local theaters.

WE NEED A PODCAST BY YOU RIGHT NOW

Honestly we need a video for mags- I’m desperate please 😅 But I really enjoyed this video so thank you!

I like how I’m on my hunger games phase and a new hunger games video comes out

I think about how katniss was the only person to volunteer im 74 years, if my brother ever got pulled I would volunteer, I lnwo I’m a girl but I would do anything to save my brother.

Yes please do more

The hungergames is still one of my favourite books of all time, especially prims life was heartbreaking to read. But excited to watch the video!!!🤩