I think one of the biggest pros of the detachable controllers is the fact that they can be replaced if there is stick drift or stuck buttons etc…

@crestofhonor2349

Ай бұрын

You know all of these are very upgradable including the deck and Ally. Sticks can be easily replaced by the user and drift shouldn't be an issue on the Legion since it's a hall based analog stick

@Yodalemos

Ай бұрын

I'm still waiting for Hal-efect controllers I can buy.

@user-xc8bi7cb4y

Ай бұрын

There is one more to the list to check out and I got bad news about it please get one and test it I like to know your view points on the MIS CLAW It is more expensive $800.00 7 INCH FHD SCREEN 120 FPS INTEL ULTRA 7 155H now for the BAD NEWS its got INTEL ARC GRAPHIC 8 XECORES we all know INTEL ARC SUCKS on TOWER GAMIN.PC I started out NOT BUYING STEAM DECK and NOT ASUS what is left is MSI CLAW I HATE INTEL ARC and then all of a sudden put of the blue LINOVOL LEGION GO (EXTREME) comes in to the battle field what is your review on the MSI CLAW yes that is a stupid name CLAW that sound like that. STUPID ARCADE MACHING that no one wants to play THE CLAW GANE so there you have it dose MAI CLAW is it worth it? I like to know

@crestofhonor2349

Ай бұрын

@@user-xc8bi7cb4y The MSI Claw is the worst option due to poor intel drivers and performance that's incredibly inconsistent. Plus the Core Ultra 5 ends up outperforming the Core Ultra 7 in many games since it takes less power for the CPU. Most games have the Ally winning at 15w even with the Claw maxed out. The select few games it does win in like RDR2 are so few and far between it's not worth talking about. Not to mention a few older games refusing to launch on intel iGPUs

@VSMOKE1

Ай бұрын

You would rather replace the whole controller than replace a part lololololololol contributing to the e-waste

I have a OLED steam deck and Legion Go. I love them both but the Go is my favorite device.

@LucidSim

Ай бұрын

Thanks for this comment. I have found those with multiple handheld gaming devices like the Deck find the Go to be their favorite

@diegoe.4639

Ай бұрын

How come?

@eternalfaeri1415

Ай бұрын

@@LucidSimsame, which is what sealed my decision to get it (as I can only get one of the handhelds). I don’t have a PC so the Legion makes for a good replacement.

@EliZeusYT

18 күн бұрын

Me also got both bro they are awesome devices

@datzitteezy

18 күн бұрын

@@diegoe.4639 I love the screen size and detachable controllers.

How is 2 USB C ports weird? Having a port on the top and bottom is great. You can plug in an external monitor + peripherals into the other. You can use an eGPU + accessories. Or just choose which port is more convenient for the occasion.

@sirmonkey1985

Ай бұрын

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM the dock would use that bottom usb - c slot but the issue is that the legion go doesn't come with a dock and there isn't one sold by lenovo.

@michelvanbriemen3459

Ай бұрын

It's weird because afaik it's the only handheld x86 device with more than 1 USB-C port.

@richardahlquist5839

Ай бұрын

Exactly Dex, the Go has two TB4 / USB 4 ports each on its own PCIe bus lanes. This requires 3 or 4 duplicated IC's per port, so they had to spread them out. This is what a lot of people dont realize. You can literally (I have done it) attach two 40Gbps external NVME and get more than 3000MB/s from both, simultaneously. Or hook up a 1080p display @ 240hz if it supports freesync.

@Galiant2010

Ай бұрын

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM It's how the Switch works. Just a USB C port on the bottom for the dock. And docks expand the number of ports, giving more type C and/or A ports and HDMI and sometimes Ethernet, as well as letting you pass through charging through the dock.

@jesusbarrera6916

Ай бұрын

@@michelvanbriemen3459 how is it weird? the GPD WIN 4, GPD WIN MINI, AYANEO KUN, AYANEO SLIDE and others all have 2 USB-C ports it's not rocket science guys.... it's a 2 min GOOGLE search

Have tried all three, I think each is great in their own way. - Legion Go is much more versatile than the rest and the bigger screen is absolutely fantastic. I have a portable gaming monitor that flips out like a tablet (18") and packing that + legion go = full PC when away on business etc + portable for on the plane etc. Biggest downside would be the battery/size compared to the Steam Deck. - Steam Deck OLED is MUCH more user friendly... it just works and the battery life is insanely good. However it's much less versatile than the rest re options and compatibility and after using the Go the screen feels very small. - ROG Ally if the Legion Go is too big for you, however the overheating issue is bleh. I think it comes down to personal preference and at what price you can get each product for.

@dreamcat04

Ай бұрын

What did you mean with overheating on the Ally? Mine doesn't really get that hot, though the SD card reader died after two weeks (I only checked 2w after I got it)

@Moxnzl

Ай бұрын

@@dreamcat04 SD reader Dying = the overheat issue.

@MrDalesen

Ай бұрын

Since you have tried all three I would like to ask you something. Here all three cost the same price, the legion, ally and deck. If all three had the same cost, which one would you rather go for?

@Robbie-mw5uu

Ай бұрын

the rog ally doesnt have an overheating issue, it has a default fan curve issue and users are literally too stupid fo fix the fan curve

@dreamcat04

Ай бұрын

@@Robbie-mw5uu Why are they too stupid? What I find annoying is that in the manual mode, ASUS forces us to use 74% fan speed at an APU temperature of between 60°C and 69°C for the fan under the SD card while the other fan is limited at just 45% in the same temp range. Why don't they just force 50% on both fans at that temp range? I don't like how the one fan turns so much faster than the other, so I just set both fans to 74% at 65°C and it's worked very well. Keeps the APU at around 50-52°C above ambient (usually it goes to around 72°C) while being acceptably unquiet. There's only so much you can try to fix a hardware issue with software, it is how it is...

Correction: Legion Go has quadruple the steamdeck resolution, not double. It's a perfect integer scaling of 4, meaning you can run games on Go at 1280x800 resolution and 1 pixel at that resolution will be the exact equivalent of 4 native pixels with no overshoot or undershoot, best picture quality possible when not running at native res. So in that sense they designed the resolution of this screen very well. You can have a high res display when you need it for movies and what not, and when you rather have performance like when gaming, you can run it at 1280x800 and still get great integer scaling that fills whole screen and retains great image quality.

@rickgear2579

Ай бұрын

This is a good point. I was surprised at how good 800p still looked on this screen.

@Peacetasyo

Ай бұрын

@@rickgear2579i agree with you.. Do you run 800p in game on 1600p native resolution? Or 1200p?

@rickgear2579

Ай бұрын

@@Peacetasyo I wiped out windows and installed Bazzite Steam OS, and sadly I don't feel like I am able to truly take advantage of the extra power afforded by the Legion Go. Still, the useability of SteamOS is vastly superior to Windows. I have to run most games at 800p

@Eevolved35

Ай бұрын

I want to know that, too as a lot of games dont let you change the game resolution separately from the device resolution ​@Peacetasyo

@meh78336

Ай бұрын

You can run the games at 1280x800 while the screen is set to 2560x1600 and turn on RSR and get a sharper more detailed image.

Important to note that the Legion Go can be used with any usb-c external egpu whereas the Ally can only be used with proprietary Asus gpus. Also, the main feature for the detachable controllers is the fps mode which is something I would be interested in as I cannot play shooters with a controller. I personally like the trackpads on the steam deck and from other reviews I’ve watched the trackpad on the Legion Go is not very good. I have the OG Steam Deck that I got on sale and upgraded to 1TB.

My response to this video. False. It is not disappointing at all.

@boudou2286

17 күн бұрын

Can the go run heavy games like cyberpunk and starfeild at a stable 60 fps ?

@douglarsen4801

17 күн бұрын

All depends on settings.

@Fire.Editzz

9 күн бұрын

@@douglarsen4801I agree

@teothegr8688

4 күн бұрын

@@boudou2286depends on settings low is 60 and medium 40-50

@sherlockholmes870

4 күн бұрын

​@@Fire.Editzzme to

Got my Legion Go last month and I have to say I am absolutely loving it, I use it for on-the-fly video editing with my iPhone 15 Pro Max (recording Log straight to SSD and not having to worry about on-board storage also helps). DaVinci Resolve works really well on the Z1Ex and is my go-to mobile video editing solution, I just attach a KB, mouse and dock then detach the controllers when I'm on work mode. I can echo the controller functionality in that it really is a missed opportunity to be able to use them like the switch, there are some third party solutions for having the controllers as a desktop controller ( a good chunk of them are 3D printed), the lack of first party solutions would have been livable if there were more third party solutions available ( the steam deck seems to have that locked down). All-in-all I absolutely adore the Legion Go, I take it with me wherever I go and never have a dull moment with it around. Currently I play MWIII and Diablo IV permanently live on the Legion Go and I just install and uninstall other games when I get bored ( I only have the 512gb version, but I plan to upgrade the SSD to 2tb whenever prices are more desirable) I just wish we weren't stuck with 16gb of RAM

@travismeo3696

14 сағат бұрын

bro, what about, premiere pro? I tend to have quite the tough time adjusting with resolve, so if you could help me get clarified on the performance, it would be very helpful.

I love this. 4 years ago we didn't have any of these first party handheld gaming pc's, and then Valve came through and essentially put a cornerstone in this market. With its success I knew that other companies would want their piece of the pie and innovate. We're still pretty expensive in this market (2x steam decks for 1 Legion Go?) but I'm happy to see that the customer gets to win with options with the companies' competition for your dollar.

@shijou2867

Ай бұрын

steamdeck availability is limited, and to get it from third party is almost same price as legion go 😅 but yeah price is pricey still, but theres so much potential but it will get better not so soon for first gen handheld pc its a great purchase right now imo

Phil's doing a great job as a host! keep it up man

@MobeastGaming2

Ай бұрын

I second this

@cnvdh3514

Ай бұрын

I third this.

@marre2355

Ай бұрын

I too this

@Me11oIngenuity

Ай бұрын

This, this.

@santeenl

Ай бұрын

Im sorry but no

One mention, you can config the start and select button to the top left and top right buttons in Legion Space fairly easily. I agree though, it's annoying that that's their default position. Great review though!

I got the Legion Go soon after it was released mainly because of it's larger screen and higher resolution. I use it as my travelling PC for content consumption and light on the go gaming.

@TheLastEpiscopalian

28 күн бұрын

Content consumption 😂 Mans gotta eat

You can swap the start/select with the legion/settings keys now. I personally love this device, was curious to see what this channel thought

Great review of the Go and it does line up with a lot of my thoughts when using both of these devices. Go was just too big for my small hands. Weight wasn't really an issue because I'm used to carrying my laptop in one hand

Great review Phil! I wish you would spend some more time talking about ergonomics and the quality of the buttons and analog sticks though. Like for instance, I thought the analog sticks and the face buttons felt really good, but the weird mouse buttons on the back right controller would kind of unsettle me when I accidentally pressed them. Also, for my XL-glove size hands, the bottom corners of the legion go were very uncomfortable after about 45 minutes of gameplay.

yeah but you can 3d print or pay someone to 3d print a controller center holder that way u can slide them In a shell like the switch

@Elkarlo77

Ай бұрын

Thingiverse has several already to download. But that means either you have a 3D Printer and can it for 1 Dollar, or you pay for printing it around 5-10 Dollar. Dock-Stand is out there as well. But this is a 5-10 cent part from Lenovo to pack into it.

@BagheeraRaceGamer

Ай бұрын

Actually I think that's a good idea. Specially if you actually are one of those who likes to "tinker about"

@ShadowFallenGaming1

Ай бұрын

@GHOSTSTARSCREAMM what's pointless is you commenting on how pointless this is 🤡

@Shotspoters

Ай бұрын

Lenovo has also confirmed that they're working on some extra accessories for the Legion Go, so we might even see a first party controller attachment eventually. I know a lot of people have been wanting other controller options, though personally i really like the ones that come in the box, and it seems like Lenovo has been listening closely to feedback from consumers. Whether or not any of these accessories will see the light of day is another story, but we'll just have to wait and see.

I had a similar gripe about the start/select buttons, and it was nearly a dealbreaker for me until I found the option to switch them in the Legion Space software. Literally just a click of a button rebinds the buttons with the two on the left controller, which I am SO happy about. Really wish they touched on that in this video, because while the Legion Space software is god awful (I set it to never run on startup anymore), that was one option I am eternally grateful for.

Assuming the two usb c ports were geared towards using with the legion ar glasses and still being able to charge device. The legion AR glasses were released as a companion accessory for Legion Go.

@rodneya6726

25 күн бұрын

watch out for Legion Go OLED with AR Glasses coming soon

Awesome review Phil!!! On the ASUS ROG Ally, the issue I have with mine is I still the expanded memory slot which is busted.

8:30 I use the bottom USB port for charging when I'm playing in handheld and the top one when it's in "tablet" mode or when I want to rest my hand on the table , just like on the video. So I am really glad that they have 2 ports.

I think this is the first review of this device I've seen that mentions the screen being portrait-native, and this is very interesting to know.

@Hubwood

16 күн бұрын

Haven't seen mine then ;)

I really enjoy these Just Philing in segments. Well done

There ARE features unlocked by detaching the controllers, mainly controller gyro. You can use them in emulators on Linux, and emulate a Wii Remote + Nunchuck for example!

The detachable controllers is such a big plus regardless of having a standalone (extra) piece of hardware you have to lug around or not. I think the functionality of being able to use one of the controllers as a mouse is huge and it wouldn't work without the controllers being detachable. Makes it even better if you're couch gaming because you can just use your couch cushions or coffee table as a mouse pad, or get one of those lap boards that you'd put a keyboard and mouse on anyways. It opens up a ton of versatility imo. I also think the lack of a dock doesn't really matter, extra ports will always be welcomed and I don't really see it as an oversight more so than the fact that they didn't intend for it to have a docking station. It'd be more useful as a second monitor anyways, which is what it would be used as when "docked" at most setups

@hatorihanzo3431

26 күн бұрын

does the controller become a mouse if you use that fps mode, does it need to be in that "dock" thing? or does it automatically become a wireless "mouse" ?

@txma.

26 күн бұрын

@@hatorihanzo3431 You just flip the switch and it turns it into a mouse, it doesn't have to be in the dock but it would probably be advisable to use the dock for more comfort

Good work Phil. I'm honestly more interested in the clamshell ones coming out and can't decide between keyboard or second screen. I just remember my ds and picking it in my bag without worrying about it. That's what I'm looking for from a portable system. No cases, no add ons, nothing flimsy. Ruggedised flip PC with no extraneous rgb and two nvmes with selectable boot so I can go between windows and Linux. Two USB 4 top and bottom and an optilink as well, delivered by an airborne hog.

As a tinkerer, I really want this as a handheld with omph.. Nice review, youre sounding honest. Wished you covered more use [noise, heat, muscle cramps..] and use cases like replacing tablet, actual third party accessories, and more about docking [support for a tv via hdmi or displayport over usb-c is, as you say, a__]. Overall, good job👍

Awesome video, love seeing Phil in videos. Keep up the great content guys! Long time sub and absolutely love seeing the team, more please 😂❤

I have a Switch and an Anbernic RG35XX Plus for my handheld needs. For the rest, it's on PC, and I feel 100% fulfilled!

PHIL!!!!!!! Nice review :) I was debating between the two but then I went and got a Quest 3 instead :P I have a powerful enough PC so I was looking for something a bit more in terms of experience.

Thx Phil for the honest overview between the 2 Devices.I bought the ROG ALLY

@darth_dunedain106

Ай бұрын

Do you know if they have fixed the SD Card reader issue?

had rog ally at launch i loved it sold it two months ago picked up an a leigon go last week and it in my experience it just has a lot less issues works really well display and comfort are way better on the leigon go i think i like the leigon more tbh

@DatBoiJrSan408

28 күн бұрын

It's due to all the updates the Lenovo Legion Go team has been pushing out since its release. I picked it up on release, and it has come a long way with many quality-of-life improvements and bug fixes. I really enjoy this thing; I just wished mine didn't come with the wobbly control issue...

Great job Phil!

Bought a steamdeck a few months ago (oled) and thought it was fantastic. Bought a legion go in February and haven't touched the oled since

Doing great Phil!!! Sending love to the team! Keep it coming guys!

Awesome review! I think I will wait for the next generation handhelds. To get a little more performance and perhaps cooler system. :)

@gottahavitvt

Ай бұрын

I don't think you're going to see massive performance improvements in upcoming generations, but they will probably be big improvements in battery life and therefore temps.

I'm loving this current push for handheld gaming pc's. I haven't been a console player in years and my time is limited to just sit at my pc all day gaming. I expect as more companies enter the industry and another generation of the steam deck comes out, these will be amazing handhelds.

Thanks, I am on the Hunt for a handheld pc...might wait for rog ally 2

I love using my steam deck for travel. I picked it up before these windows handhelds were available and it’s great for flights. Essentially every steam game I own that I can’t carve out time for on my desktop works great. The ever evolving updates are sick. And now steam basically auto transferring updates and downloads from my desktop to my steam deck?? So awesome!

Did a great job Phil! If you missed it you can change the legion space button on it now. Can turn it to the top buttons are "start" and "share"

this helped me realize while I like the idea of these handhelds; I'm probably going to wait a while before wanting one.

@KIIVx

Ай бұрын

And then you'll wait, wait and keep on waiting....

@PSNDarkSouL

Ай бұрын

@@KIIVxshit best thing to do cuz all these pc handhelds are trash. I’ll give it another 3 years before they push out a pc handheld that can give me at LEAST 3hrs of battery life while getting 60fps minimum

@iAmVishNu-dm3lj

Күн бұрын

Do yourself a favor and find another reviewer that does his or her homework

I've been listening to the rtfm show again and I love how much phil has really come out of his shell when he is on camera. Defo keep Phil for this subject. He nailed it

@Aggrosk8

Ай бұрын

I really miss them doing the rtfm show.

@DanTAT1987

Ай бұрын

@@Aggrosk8 yeah I have it on for my daily commute

Yooo what is up guys, Philz2Cents, the wrapper, here today and for you I have this Legion Go 😆

I was waiting for this since Jay did the unboxing and said Phil was going to do the full review. Love Phil's nerd energy.

Appreciate this review, I'm currently trying to decide between The Go / Ally / Deck right now to go along side my 4080 desktop.

@Innocuils

Ай бұрын

I have a SteamDeck and a LeGo...I have not touched the SteamDeck since I got the LeGo.

@oxygen026

Ай бұрын

Got all 3 of them second hand. Stayed with legion go with hopes that the software gets better. It also replaces my ipad mini for basic stuff like netflix etc. The fps mode is actually great for games like Battlefield Bad Company 2 which does not have any good support for aiming with joystick. Software is trashy, but getting better with some beta releases

@eaglemmoomin_418

Ай бұрын

if you have a desktop get the OLED SteamDeck. The Deck is pickup and play, and suspend and resume works properly...unlike the other two. The Ally and Legion GO are laptops without mouse and keyboard thanks to Windows. I got so pissed off with the Windows experience on my Ally I put a SteamOS clone on it. That has made it much more usable as a handheld games console vs computer. However battery life is no where near as good on Ally as the OLED deck which I also own. Same game at 12W TDP and same settings my Deck runs for about 3.5 hrs at 45fps and my Ally gets about 2.25 hrs at 30fps. I double checked last night. Deck has better perf and battery life at lower TDPs where you get better battery life🤷. The Ally will give you more at 18W which is the sweet spot perf wise BUT battery life nose dives.

@jas0x139

Ай бұрын

I have an Steam Deck OLED and it's been an amazing device. Having dual trackpads allows you to create radial menus for in game commands which is amazing. Also Steam input makes it easy to play a lot of older games that don't have controller support. Since I also have a PC, games that may struggle on it I just stream to it using remote play. Nice laying in bed playing a heavily modded Skyrim.

@darth_dunedain106

Ай бұрын

@@jas0x139 Wait so you can have your PC just stream the games to your Deck? Could you have it running at Max Settings this way?

FYI, Lenovo was in the gaming pc/laptop area much longer than ROG/asus

@jasonmiles3263

14 күн бұрын

As if that matters lol look at apple

Phil, LLG screen is MIPI, which is why it can use VRR.

I'm picking mine up later today can't wait to see the performance just happy I can bring it everywhere I have a laptop too but these seem way more portable

Also the kickstand folds out quite a bit. Just keep folding it open until it stops, then will sit flatter on a desk when hooked up to a monitor, and better acess to the bottom usb-c port

for ergonomics of the detached controllers, I'd say phil's take isn't the best. the switch style holder he wants does as grips that the joycons sorely lack, but then they're even closer together than any other controller. while shoulder width apart is a better ergonomic posture for your hands. so each has a big plus, while having a big minus at the same time. I've only ever used the holder type thing to rubber band the sticks together for some auto grinding in some games on my switch. I just got some joycon covers that add the much needed grips & play with the joycons apart. it's so much more comfortable for long play sessions. you can use the button remapping to add confirm & cancel buttons to each side too. difference in opinion on the ergonomics/reasons for the detachable controllers aside, great video Phil!

Hmm... Nicely done, Phil. This quite an insight. But for me, I still think both are expensive and lack upgrade paths aside from storage. Looks cool, but hard to justify as a daily driver.

I got my partner a Steam Deck OLED for Christmas last year and they love it and constantly use it. For myself, I'm still more of a just desktop PC guy as I don't travel much or anything and when I do I just pack up the Switch. That said I think if I did get one, I'd either get the Steam Deck OLED myself or the Legion Go because of the dual USB ports and because I have big hands. Great job on the review Phil!

I have them both and my Ally has been in its case since my Go came in at launch, the screen can't be beaten!

Nice review Phil, it is easy to see that you have passion and great knowledge in this space.

I wonder if you can remap the start/select button. Great video guys!

@kdubspencer3390

Ай бұрын

They've been remapable for months he just didn't look in legion space .

I think there's one important keyword when it comes to the Legion Go: Flexibility. It allows you to play as a normal handheld, as a table setup with wireless controllers and hooked up to a TV/monitor, also with wireless controllers. The fact that it has windows also allows you to connect more or less any peripherals you would like, and play it as more of a traditional PC with keyboard and mouse, or just hook up whatever bluetooth-controllers you might have laying around to play splitscreen multiplayer. The fact that it has two USB-C ports, one on the top and one on the bottom, also allows you to insert the charger or dock/dongle on whatever end might fit better in your environment. Maybe you're playing handheld and prefer having the charger hanging off the bottom, or maybe you've set it up with the kickstand and need to use the top one because the bottom is blocked? The FPS mode is also yet another addition for more flexibility. Don't have a mouse and keyboard around but still want to play your favourite mouse and keyboard games? Just make some keybinds for the controller, turn on FPS-mode and have at it! There's just so many ways to use this device, and like Phil said, it's a great fit for anyone willing to tinker a bit. It's by no means perfect, but I would never under any circumstance say that any added feature that adds flexibility is a wasted feature.

Reserved my Steam Deck 256GB within 2 hours of reservations opening. Got it late Q2 2022 and love it. I have since upgraded the sticks to Hall Effect, the ssd to a 1TB drive and replaced the battery because it wore out. I have very large hands. I have been so thrilled with that device that I sold my Switch because I could play almost every game I had on it on the Deck anyways about 6 months after receiving the Deck. I can't recommend it enough and have been persuaded to switch my main PC to be a Linux machine because my CPU is not supported by 11 and I don't like 11 anyways. I really like the Steam Deck, but I think I should've named it Prometheus instead of Archimedes.

I'll always refer to them as start and select I'm right there with you!

I've never updated Vampire Survivors on the Switch till yesterday and now I got this sweet Adventure mode to play now! 😅

I wish! Nice Carball play!

I got a PC 3700x/3080, a ROG Ally, a GPD win4 (7840u version), Switch, and a Odin 2. I got all avenues ready to play for different use cases. also great video love that you guys are getting into or starting to make vids on Handheld PCs was waiting to see if you guys would. great work phil and looking forward to more videos!

@ZackSNetwork

Ай бұрын

Your 3080 is CPU bottlenecked my boy. I say upgrade it to a 5800x3d and sell the 3700x.

@JsmashTech

Ай бұрын

@@ZackSNetwork I thought about it but then I’d have to update the Bios then take off the cooler and put the new one in and I’m gonna make a NEW PC soon anyway although it would raise the value of the PC abit when I sell this. But if i end up selling it to my friend for cheaper I’ll just let him do it.

@HeinSmit1

Ай бұрын

@@JsmashTech The 3700x was bottlenecking me even at 4K, but went full upgrade to a 7800X3D. Hogwarts saw a ridiculous jump in performance along with Spider-Man

I feel like this would be cool if it had the additions you mentioned with the doc and the controller shell especially if they sold the doc with a display or anything

You can swap the start/select buttons with the legion buttons in the legion space software settings.

Awesome review, you did a amazing job and gave me what i needed to make a decision on what device was for me..thankyou!

3rd parties sell both the controller conversion piece and docks, there are also some amazing designs on the 3d printing websites if your into to that.

@israel4837

Ай бұрын

Could you recommend some of those 3d printing websites ??

The added functionality from removing the "Gocons" comes from docking the device. If you connect this to your TV let's say and have USB-C out to your TV, you won't need an additional bluetooth controller. As for the START/SELECT buttons, you can swap those in Legion Space. Also... how does this compare to a laptop and/or desktop? Psst, I know a channel that did some comparisons... okay fine it's mine. Also, you can get this refurb now for $590!

@crestofhonor2349

Ай бұрын

Compare? CPU wise it's great. The Z1X is pretty fast and has 8 cores so it works well even with a gaming laptop. GPU wise it's a low end PC just because it's a handheld. At max it matches a GTX 1650 but if you want battery life you won't use that mode

@docbrody

Ай бұрын

Well how does it compare? Whats the bottom line?

@gamers-generation

Ай бұрын

@@crestofhonor2349 Perhaps "comparison" wasn't the best word to use, but when I said comparison I didn't just mean performance. Like Phil says in the video, there's portability in the Go which IMO translates to versatility; Do you need that versatility? Depends highly on your use case. But it's not just a case of a laptop or desktop being a clear winner I'd say.

@gamers-generation

Ай бұрын

​@@docbrody This might sound like a cop out but I promise it isn't. It's completely up to the use case and priorities. I for instance currently value portability over performance and so while my desktop will stomp the Go in performance, I can't take it with me; and I don't want to game in bed with a laptop, or while commuting, so the Go is the clear winner for my particular use case as it also hits the minimum requirement for me in performance.

I came across the desire for a handheld gaming device this year. Legion Go wasn't on my option list due to it's size and bulkiness. I tossed for over a month between Steam Deck and Ally. Figuring out how my gaming, preferred games, and current library could be played while mobile, and how they could be played from my norm. Lots of time spent weighing the cost and use case to find if it was worth it to me. I went with the Steam Deck, due to its user-friendliness as Valve has put a lot of effort in the OS and UI. Didn't want to deal with the perceived hassle of Windows 11 on a device that it ultimately wasn't designed for. Ended up spending higher dollars on it than I was originally planning because I got the OLED Steam Deck. Couldn't bring myself to buy anything less on the sole basis that the OLED touch screen is far more responsive and not laggy than the LCD is. I love it!! Use my Deck FAR more than I thought I would!

I have a 1TB OLED Steam Deck and love it. My bro has the Ally and he installed Steam OS on it and loves it. Both are good.

Timing of this is perfect. Been trying to decide between this steam deck oled and the asus (though the sd card issue is ruling out the ally

@Kasper0822

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't have been upset about the SD card if i didn't buy one before the issue was known. Honestly 2TB ssd is the way to go if you do get the ally. Have no complaints besides that.

@redring4083

Ай бұрын

The fact that it is Asus alone is the reason why the Ally should be ruled out.

@swshredder1313

Ай бұрын

I have both, the ally for myself as my laptop replacement, and the steamdeck oled for my wife. Overall the Steam deck is great for just flat out enjoying games vs the ally being a full on laptop and switch replacement.

@Innocuils

Ай бұрын

I have the SteamDeck and the LeGo. Ever since I got the LeGo, I haven't used the SteamDeck. The bigger screen and detachable controllers are extremely useful to me.

@crestofhonor2349

Ай бұрын

Ultimately the choice is do you want to play multiplayer games or not. Ally and deck are some of my favorite handhelds

the only reason i'm not even considering the ally is due to that sd card killing problem. i want to go legion but now there is a cheaper alternative handheld from orange pi coming which if shipped to the UK for under 500, it is a hard choice.

I went with the ally, I mainly use it at home and stream from my desktop, I like the smaller form factor for traveling though.

Just a heads up, The start and select buttons can be swapped with the bottoms buttons to the top buttons in the legion space app.

@anthonyjdm1578

Ай бұрын

was going to comment this! one of the first things i did when i bought mines. i definitely understand his frustration though at first i hated it too but a quick google search does wonders

l've been using my Legion Go as an ultra portable PC first & foremost rather than a dedicated handheld gaming system, find this brilliant when on the go to do work etc using a portable Bluetooth keyboard & mouse. At home I have it plugged in running at 30 watts using a Xbox controller rather than the detectable controllers on my coffee table when gaming, I find this much more comfortable than trying to play it handheld due to it's size. The Nintendo Switch is my dedicated handheld console of choice.

U can swap the start and select with the ones on the left controller. Also the vibration works pretty good just varies by game. Horizon forbidden west has a near little effect on the right controller when shooting the bow, I keep it on the strongest setting.

really wish more details were provided here. i have had my Lego since launch and I love it. there are many 3rd party controller parts that you can get if you look that allow you to connect the detachable controllers like the switch. additionally the start and select buttons can be changed to the more natural configuration. the 2 USB charging ports are great and i use them depending how I am sitting or if I plug in my external SSD and power supply at the same time to play game off the external SSD.

You can switch the start and select at the top in the settings. So its not an issue

@teezee1000

Ай бұрын

Exactly..

I have a Legion Go and I loved it. The bigger screen felt better than the Ally to me. I do agree that not having an official dock looked like a miss. The detachable controller - there could be better value added if the right one is somehow sculpted to be a mouse when detached (without using the disc base) - they already crammed in a mouse optical in it after all. Overall, they could have added an eyelet for a hand loop (like the PSP and some old phones) for those of use that are worried we might drop the device when holding it.

I love my Steam Deck OLED. The screen is amazing and it runs smooth as butter. I knew I wanted a Steam Deck OLED and did not cross shop it all, but a Phil-parison between the three would be interesting.

Love my steam deck. 2 years on it still performs great and UI seems like it has the best refinement of all these handhelds. Just waiting for a 3rd party to release an OLED replacement screen.

I just bought the Legion GO and it's awesome, I recommend it. About the battery, "BUY A POWERBANK 65 WATT"

@KIIVx

Ай бұрын

Yeah the battery genuinely isn't all that great but it's decent atleast compared to the rog ally ( only by a little)

I'm watching this on my Ally and I love it. I'm also sure there are 3D printable docks for the Legion controllers

You will appreciate detachable controllers when you got a painful bad back and when lying in bed you can put a pillow on your stomach with a screen on it, and both hands lie comfortably next to you and you hold the controllers in them and play. Holding it normal way just hurts after a while.

@gottahavitvt

Ай бұрын

I have a very bad back and the last thing I want is to lay flat on my back with a 2lbs tablet on my stomach while holding 2 controllers at my sides.

I haven't had a chance to play with the Ally or Go, but I love my OLED Steam Deck. Screen is amazing, it runs anything I want it to, emulation is amazing, battery life is amazing. Haptics are top notch

I'm about Jay size, 6'4" and 275 lbs... I would go for the Lenovo myself. I do like the looks of it too. The mouse control sounds cool.

@LPcrazy_88

Ай бұрын

I'm a full foot shorter than you and I love the size of the Legion Go. It's all a preference thing and not a physical limitation thing.

Another big reason to have detachable controllers other than the mouse mode is for when you have the system docked to a TV so you can just sit back on a couch and keep using the same controllers

I absolutely love my Legion Go. I purchased it because i was going on vacation from California to Oklahoma to visit family, and i needed something quick and easy to use if my job had an issue i needed to take care of, I have a foldable bluetooth keyboard and it all fit in my back pack, plus I could play games on it in the cramped airplane seat. I love being able to play it in bed while my wife is watching TV, while I do have a Switch this give me more options between my steam library and my XBOX game pass. With innovations happening as fast as they are i can't wait to see what a 3rd or 4th gen handheld can do.

If you feel like the ally is to small you can get different grips and cases for it. Skull and co case is super nice and even works as a stand.

I have an Ally and Steam deck. I only want a Lenovo Go for its size as a mini pc when visiting family and hook it Up to a Tv. But there has been talks of Ally 2 coming out later this year

The detachable controllers are nice if they break and needs to be replaced perhaps? If they are available to buy seperatly?

So the SoC isn't actually chonkier, only the detachable controllers are? So the Screen an actual PC are not actually thicker....

Thankfully they just released an update where you can rebind the buttons to whatever you want including swapping the top face buttons to start and select and the other 2 lower ones are now the hot keys for me. The software def sucks but hopefully they keep working on it and I know they have been listening to feedback. Valve continue to knock it out of the park with software so hopefully these other companies step up their game (and that includes Microsoft) I love that the controllers separate I think they work well in that configuration but thankfully there are 3d prints and even lenovo and Jsaux are making some new accessories including the adapter to combine them into a single controller.

3d print a holder for the detached controller. there are a couple designs on printables.

We got work to do. Jay: i'm playing world of warships....for the review.

I think comparing these devices is great but there is one glaring issues and that’s how do they hold up over time . My Asus Rog ally I loved it … until the sd card reader died . Then the vibration function just decided to stay on permanently. Even after reboots . I decided to go to legion go. So far so good . Detachable controls is Awsome so your hands don’t get tired holding up rite 😮

I might have a go at the ally, i will wait and see what msi brings to the table.

I bought one and since I own a 3d printer I made a controller adapter and a dock for it. My biggest gripe and its a silly one is the power adapter is just loose. I wish there was a pocket to store it in in the case.

Great video! I will say the Ally intrigues me, but the Steam Deck still is the best performance to dollar ratio for me. Not sure I could justify $700 for one of these.

If it has Windows and I can connect a 4K or widescreen display, then I’m all in. I’ll 3D print a dock if I have to, but if this does well, I’m sure Lenovo will come out with their own. Perfect travel computer. Better than a laptop. Smaller. Lighter. More portable. As a bonus it plays modern games half way decently (only need 60fps for single player games I’d be playing on a plane or in a hotel room anyway).

For Lenovo's first ideration of this handheld. I do feel like when they do a revision i see them taking all the feedback and improving on all those aspects in this review. If they can pull it off making a portable switch like handheld with the accessories to back it up and possibly steamOS sotfware options. Insta win for Lenovo.

I went with the base Rog Ally for $399. I mostly play emulation, retro games, and indie games, so it's perfect for that use case. One of the main reasons I chose the Ally (other than price) is lack of fan noise. It's basically silent unless you're really pushing it. Other reviews of the Legion Go have mentioned that it has a pretty loud fan.

@paulashton9772

Ай бұрын

The fan is fine unless of course you're playing something heavy

You can configure the start select option in Legion Space to invert