So the bird in the beginning was designed to look like Matt and Marisha’s bird. However, during the production process the bird passed away and they forgot about this scene until it was finished. They found it morbidly funny tho so they kept it

@suntiger745

Жыл бұрын

Not designed in terms of looks, but they used Dagon's chirping to give the fey bird its voice. :) (Dagon was a female cinnamon green-cheeked conure, if you want to look up what she looked like IRL. :) )

@I.Lostalim

Жыл бұрын

​@@suntiger745 the Fey bird also shares Dagon's colour scheme.

@xilliaz

Жыл бұрын

Matt has a real reaction to this scene, I couldn't tell how much he was laughing and crying but it was a real as hell.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

😢

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

​@@xilliaz Oh it was all laughter. He has a morbid sense of humor, so Dagon's passing was just an additional level.

For the record, Percy wasn't talking out his ass when it came to how time works in the Fae realm - it really does flow strangely compared to the regular material plane. When passing from the material to the Fae and back after, say, 3 days, as little as a day or as much as a week could've passed in the plan you crossed over from. The Fae realm like to screw with travelers even in terms of both time AND space, and it's hilariously fun because of it!

Another hint at the Scanlan and Pike relationship in season 1 was when Pike separated from the group. Scanlan seemed happy and relaxed when he waved goodbye, but once he turned away from Pike, he looked down and you could see him more sad than the others. He also sang a sweet song about her in the credits of one episode.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for reminding us about that moment as well ☺️

Regarding Grog and the sword in the campaign, it went quite a bit differently. The sword had a mechanic that it could increase Grog's strength stat when he dealt damage to something with it, but the boost reset when Grog took a rest so Grog (and to some degree Travis, the player) had been forgoing rest (which is pretty critical to restore your health and some of your limited use abilities) to see how far he could stack it. He actually reached the max it could during a fight with the male sphinx and the sword hulked out into a new form but then in the course of the fight he unintentionally wounded Pike (it was really just a random happenstance rather than any control the sword had over him, but it was still an "oh shit" moment nonetheless). After the fight, he finally rested and the sword, not wanting to let go of the strength it had absorbed, forced him to make a roll which Grog failed and instead of draining his strength like in the show, it outright sucked up his soul and killed him in front of the rest of the party. The party had an intervention, breaking the connection between Grog and the sword in order to revive him, and then banished the sword to a pocket dimension where it stayed (magic items, especially sentient ones, are notoriously hard to actually break in raw D&D mechanics).

@stephenhumphreys9149

Жыл бұрын

Yes - they're wisely not making resurrection a common thing in the show as it would detract from any sense of danger, although they kept Vex's death and return as it had a big impact on Vax's story arc. So this was a good alternate way of dealing with Grog's issues with Craven Edge (although I would have liked it to have taken a little longer, they only have a limited amount of time to resolve these things in the series).

@DaDunge

Жыл бұрын

​@@stephenhumphreys9149 Well the thing is that in the campaign its a lot more spread out.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for detailing difference between campaign and show for that scene with Grog 😅

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, the "dark pissing match" as it was referred to (between Percy & the sword).

Reminder that death just is... it is neither good or bad. A little meta knowledge, The jump scares are a bit of revenge from travis, as CR's resident jumpy person he gets dragged into all the scary stuff (theres a whole video of him going thru a haunted house that is pure gold).

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Payback haha. We can dig it 😊

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

😂😂 He so proudly admits that he does it to scare reactors.

Fun fact about this episode normally Matt Mercer does the voice of trinket for his like roars and stuff in the show, however when they gave him a voice for the drug trip he was played by cheech Marin and I don't think they could have made a better choice for drug trip trinket voice.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Perfect casting 🤩

Percy's player mentioned that they explicitly wrote him in this episode as a Western manga fan who goes to Japan for the first time and thinks they know everything. Also that bird at the start was a reference to Matt and Marisha (DM and Keyleth) having a pet bird named Dagon, which they wrote in and then forgot about. In between, little Dagon passed away, and this absolute sickening butchery became the most unintentionally hilarious memorial to a chaotic birb that was ever put to screen.

@gamerbear84

Жыл бұрын

I mean, everything Percy says about the realm is true, it's just that by its very nature the place fucks with ya. lol Time, distances, you name it not working like how they're used to is just how it do be.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

He's the manga fan that is both happy AND utterly disappointed. 😂

Fun note. The voice actor of Garmelie is the wonderful Billy Boyd, also known as Merry in the Lord of the Rings. In the first season we had Archibald played by Dominic Monaghan who played Pippin. So so far we are two for four on hobbits. Personally I’m hoping this keeps up and we get Sean Astin and Elijah Wood in season 3 and 4.

@Dragon_Lair

Жыл бұрын

Pippin. Merry was Archibald in season 1

@CeliriaRose

Жыл бұрын

@@Dragon_Lair oops my mistake. For some reson I always get them mixed up

The bird at the beginning was Matt and Marishas (keyleth and DM) to immortalise him but he died in the making of the show and they forgot it was there until seeing it die again at the premier 😂😂

@CandleLight129

Жыл бұрын

and then broke out into an almost concerning amount of uncontrollable laughter.

@Antonath

Жыл бұрын

That part when Matt tells the story of their bird it is so sad until you see him genuinely laugh and cry from it. Just let's you know that loss and grief doesn't need to be void of joy and humor that they can go hand in hand without disrespecting the one you lost.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

​@@Antonath Even Matt was like "you can't help but laugh at this."

I might forgive you for not listening to the end credits song in this episode. But please know, that the song in episode 10 is mandatory!

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

😯 we may have already watched that and not listened to the song 😩 maybe we will have to do a Vox Machina soundtrack listen after this 🤔

Couple of things about the drug trip: Did you notice the way Vex saw Percy through that filter? And did you recognize Trinket's voice? A famous one for drug trips... Also wasn't that sword story such a great way of describing addiction? Everything we heard from Grog is every excuse that addicts give...

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

We didn’t recognize Trinkets voice but saw in comments someone else say it was Cheech from Cheech and Chong. Perfect casting 🤩 😶‍🌫️

Cheech as Trippy Trinket is amazing!

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

😶‍🌫️🤩

They made a song out of one of their many many many inside jokes. kzread.info/dash/bejne/mn-TuqqSmJvRl9o.html For Grog and the sword, he straight up died there in the snow, failing a roll. Pike brought him back immediately thankfully. They died a lot in the campaign but it's becoming clear that they'll leave those parts out so that if there's a more impactful or permanent death, your first reaction won't just be "oh Pike will fix it w/e". D&D rules as written, after a certain level death is just a speedbump. Mercer do have a homebrew rule where all resurrection magic isn't just a cast but it does have a chance to fail. On average I'd say about a 25% failure chance, on this occasion, Pike succeeded with her ressurection.

@motorcycleboy9000

Жыл бұрын

"Keyleth really needs to learn her spells" was another in-joke.

Garmelie is voiced by Billy Boyd. Two hobbits down, two to go! lol

At different points in the campaign, all the characters died, some more than once ... Grog's death was to Craven Edge, but the whole party was there to bring him back.

12:46 this intance is one they kinda changed up a little. indeed the Craven Edge did have a hold on Grog, and he ended up hurting Pike so after them meeting the second sphinx, he had a conversation with the sword, trying to break that connection. it ended up killing him and the gang had to revive him.

Percy is SUCH a nerd!

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

I heard someone once say that this moment is Percy before the trauma. It's the boy who read books, not the analytical adult.

The Watch Alongs and Q&As they did with the cast and production staff for this show was really funny when this episode came up cause Matt was on it. You all should check those out after you finish the season, gives some really great behind the scenes info

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

😎👍😀

Silly fool of a Garmilie. (Garmilie was voiced by Pippin from LotR). And Trinket was voiced by Cheech Marin. When I heard that I went "Nooooo... they got the man who is known to be a stoner to play Trippy Trinket."

Fun fact (not many for this one on my end): - In the original game, they had to camp in the Fey realm and also had to put up a "No Fairies" sign. (I THINK, someone needs to confirm or deny for me).

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

It was "No Pixies." The pixies were such pests. 😂

@toonman5099

Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowyFox_86 Ah, thank you.

Beth doing the intro definitely caught me off guard for some weird reason. Good way to keep us on our toes!

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

😜 sometimes intro can be white noise so like to mix it up every now and then

The casts opens every game describing themselves as "A bunch of nerdyass voice actors" every week so I think we are on the same page as you for how cool nerds are

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

"We play Dungeons and Dragooooooons!"

15:45 He's not possessed. But he is depressed because he realizes that he has made a covenenant that cannot be broken. The sword had power over Grog's mind the vestige has power over Vax's soul.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Well said 🙂

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

We’ve had others explain this as well but like the way you put it

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

He also doesn't understand the deal he's made and is too scared to actually ask. I will say you're wrong about the vestige. It doesn't have power over his soul. The Matron does, and that's an important distinction.

"Grog's going to need to get his strength back the hard way" I mean... you weren't wrong

Percy's electric gauntlet is called 'Diplomacy'.

12:55 - that was exactly it, being a cursed item Grog couldn't just drop it. Tabletop, he had actually tried to sheathe Craven Edge to use a different sword and couldn't. The scene this is replacing had him finally succeeding the Wisdom Save, but Craven Edge straight up killed him and then Keyleth opened a portal to nowhere and ditched Craven Edge there. (there was no split on tabletop they did these one after the other) Now that they know where the story is going, I prefer the animated series version, because 1. I think it would take away from the sunken tomb moment too much, 2. As you'll see they are going to use this loss of physical strength to tie into Grog's arc a lot more.

@I.Lostalim

Жыл бұрын

14:20 YES! Seeing a completely different side of Percy now that he has let go of his dark emotions (and the daemon) and also providing a moment, although Vax isn't quite ready to forgive, but a way for Percy to be a support for Vax, because he knows what darkness does to someone.

So regarding Pike's love life, iirc in the tabletop campaign, before they started streaming it, Pike used to hit the brothels with Grog and Scanlan. So it's unlikely she's a virgin.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

She's definitely not. 😂 She's kept up with Grog most of their time together.

Scanlan has probably my favorite arc in the show. Sam Regal, his player, really knocked it out of the park and I love that the animated show has been adding more foreshadowing to it. As for Vax, he's going through a lot. I will say I love both of your perspectives on his journey. His story is probably the most complex in the campaign and is one of the more interesting and long reaching ones. I really can't wait to see your reaction to where it goes. As for the Fey Ralm guide.... he's helpful but should never be trusted. Put a pin on his character because it's important.

So, just a Sidenote, the Garmelie character is not a gnome, he’s a satyr, a type of Fae creature

@blackheartthedarklord6428

Жыл бұрын

👀👀👀

A cursed weapon requires a wisdom saving throw (roll a D20 and add you wisdom modifier) to break the curse and let the weapon go. As a barbarian Grog has a wisdom of 10 so he had a 0 modifier. That’s the danger of cursed weapons they usually end up with the lowest wisdom characters.

@Drocksas

Жыл бұрын

That save is only some cursed weapons, though. Some of them can't be saved against at all and actually need someone to magically remove the curse through various means. But final point still partially stands - cursed weapons are not to be trifled with!

How Grog and the group dealt with Craven Edge in the stream was quite different, but it did indeed involve a saving throw. Two actually. Travis rolled high enough to save on the first roll, then Matt remembered that he had a level (or two, I forget) of Exhaustion, meaning you have disadvantage (roll a d20 twice, take the lower number) on all your saving throws. Travis rolled again and got a natural 1. If you want to know what that resulted in I can elaborate, or you can look up one of those "stream to screen" clips. I think there's one of Grog and Craven Edge. :) That said, I don't mind the change to the Grog/Craven Edge situation. It makes for a better story in the animated format this way, as you will see in the next few episodes. Percy is indeed a nerd. Here we see a bit of what he could have been without the Briarwoods and loosing all of his family. And him trying to regain some trust from the group in general, and Vex'ahlia and Vax'ildan in particular, is starting to bear some fruit. Really have to take my hat off in respect for the animators, concept artists, SFX/lighting people at Titmouse and Neal Acree's score - the Fey realm looks amazing. Bright and colorful, with both pleasures, joys and dangers galore. And yes, the Fey realm and many of its denizens have an instinctual aversion to Vax'ildan because the Deathwalker's ward. It, and he by extension, it tied to the Shadowfell, the Matron of Raven's domain - which is the antithesis of the Fey realm. Not evil, but grey, dreary and accentuating sadness, sorrow and melancholy in both its environment and denizens. I don't know exactly how they are playing Pike's character and backstory in regards to the animation, but in the stream she was not a virgin. She just wasn't as prolific in collecting lovers as Scanlan was, but then again none of them were.

Sidenote in the campaign Grog actually died because of the sword. Percy had threatened the cursed blade to release Grogs soul and had a stare down with the enitity inside. Then Pike had to bring Grog back with rivivify and break the connection with greater restoration.

Fun fact Trinket was voiced by Cheech Marin.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Can't believe we didn't recognize that voice. Such a perfect choice for that scene 😁

14:00 ooh yeah, for sure. If the Briarwoods had never come to Whitestone he'd still be spending most of his day locked in the library or his workshop, tinkering or making clocks or something. And he'd be soooooooo awkward😂 He would be even worse at interacting with people than he is now. In a genuine way at least, he'd still be perfectly capable of being polite and civil. Hard to make friends that way though. Edit: Spoilers for later in the campaign (and presumably the show). I have a feeling you're gonna like Tary.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

You're right about the clocks part. Taliesin was asked what Percy would do if the bad stuff had never happened, and that's what he came up with.

Back in the original campaign, Grog would need to roll Wisdom Saving Throws to see if he was able to put down Craven Edge at all, fairly standard cursed weapon stuff. The difference though is that back then, he didn't lose his strength... he just ... died. Pike revived him after removing the curse and Keyleth sent the blade to another dimension. They improve on this in the show because, not only do these events happen soon after Vex's death (1 or 2 weeks later at most), but death wouldn't really trigger personal growth for Grog the same way. His strength being sapped entirely is something that affects him much more in ways that target him the best.

(At 9:12) Oh Come On! Cheech Marin?

The grass was getting fed up with them walking through it, turning from green to violet, then red when Keyleth went and insulted it. Percy had to flirt with it so it would chill out. "You are majestic! You are windswept! You are everything I could hope for in a beautiful view." As Merry's actor voiced Archie, Pippin's actor voices Garmelie; I wonder if they'll get the other two hobbits for seasons 3 and 4! Garm's drawing of Grog involved bugged out eyes, buck teeth and a tiny penis. Of *course* they got Cheech to voice Trinket for the trip scene! Craven Edge resets when its bearer sleeps. Grog went without sleep for days to max it out, but there's a chance it will kill its bearer when it resets... which it did, because going without sleep means rolling at disadvantage (rolling two dice and using the lowest result). Travis rolled high enough to resist it, then remembered he had to roll again... natural one. Grog's death (among others) isn't integral to the story, and they need to make player character death a bigger deal for the show, so I get why they skipped it. Enchanted weapons are not so easily destroyed. Pike revived Grog, and Keyleth shifted Cravey to an island floating in the astral plane, where the chances of it ever being found (or fed) ever again are, literally, astronomically remote. Grog never lost his muscles, but it's used for comedic effect (and an excuse to hear Ashley sing). It's just blatently obvious when he's going to get them back... the very fight Grog wanted Craven Edge for...

Funfact: How they got rid of Craven Edge was a bit different in the live game. Rather when destroy it after hurting Pike, Grog failed a will save and Craven Edge ate his soul. Grog then dropped dead in the snow, and the rest of Vox Machina decided then and there to banish the sword to another plain of existence so nobody could use it again, but not before Percy threatens Craven Edge with "If I were you, I'd put it back, or else it will be the last meal you ever eat, for as I will find an abyss so deep and so far you will never taste a drop of blood again" as the two entities stare down each other, with Percy brining out his own inner demon to intimidate the sword into releasing Grog. Funfact 2: The song "Makin' My Way" is inspired by a running joke in the live game, where Matt would describe moving around a battle map as "As you make you way-" it would almost certainly be followed by someone briefly singing a variation of "Makin' my way downtown".

Percy *is* a nerd and I love him for this :333

At the beginning of Campaign 1, Marisha got a lot of crap from some of the fans for not knowing all of Keyleth's spells (and just in general), so Scanlan's 'Keyleth really needs to learn her spells' is a poke at that. 'Making my way' was also a reference to the game play. There is a whole compilation of 'making my way' references captured during the capaign.

@PrinceIMC

Жыл бұрын

I feel like anyone who yelled at Marisha for not knowing her spells never played a Druid and had the paralysis of choice of choosing your spells every day from the whole list and deciding which ones will work best for the situation.

@Kai-fb1ol

Жыл бұрын

​@@PrinceIMC I think it was more that she often didn't read the spell descriptions properly so thought the spells did something different than they actually did. Some people are better at that kind of thing than others, and Marisha had a lot of pressure on her to make good spellcasting decisions because Vox Machina was a strangely spellcaster-light party, particularly when Ashley was absent. Scanlan was there too but Bards are a known spells class, so Sam only needed to be familiar with the spells Scanlan knew. Marisha needed to be familiar with the Druid's whole spell list, and I don't think it came naturally to her.

@PrinceIMC

Жыл бұрын

@@Kai-fb1ol exactly, with Tiberius leaving and Pike being absent much of the time Key’leth and Scanlan had to be primary spellcasters. It is very hard to remember what every spell does when you have access to every Druid spell every day and you’re switching them out based on the situation. She mixed some up and thought they did things that they didn’t, but that’s a lot of spells to try to remember.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

And to be fair, this was all of them switching from Pathfinder to D&D 5e. It was a major jump and quite a lot of spells act differently between the two games.

@TheToasterPirate

Жыл бұрын

@@Kai-fb1ol She was also new to roleplaying games, just switched from Pathfinder to D&D 5e, and had about a billion spells with a lot of technicalities as a druid. The average dnd player watching knew way more about Dnd than she (and Travis) did. The difference was, she didn't have simple barbarian rules. If you look at a lot of the criticism too, a lot of it was sexist garbage. The misogyny and hate was so strong, they took the chat box off of the screen.

Garmele is a satyr not a gnome

I hope i never get trippy like that....though i never smoke or stuff....just drink on few occasions

With you asking about the campaign versus the show the whole thing with Craven Edge is very different as it ends up killing Grog (which they wanted to keep the character deaths and resurrections to a minimum to avoid it seeming less impactful hence the whole Vex death being so heartwrenching) But yea in the campaign the sword isn't actually destroyed but they throw it into the astral sea if I recall correctly.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

I think it's a pocket plane that they visited pre-stream not the Astral Sea. They wanted to use it because it was supposed to be empty.

You should listen to the end credits song ;)

I think grom's strength comes from his companions

I hereby vote Cheech Marin should always be the voice of Trinket. Not just when Vex is high as a kite.

@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, had no idea that was Cheech! 😀🤩

Y’all said to comment my suggestion so here it is. Y’all should check out tarnished archeologist his videos connect the in game lore to the real world inspiration

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I still like Percival...now learning the hard way books only have limited knowledge...but experience is endless... unfortunately the saying goes...to the victors goes the spoils.... including writing history in their image

@TheToasterPirate

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, Percy is technically right about everything he said about the fey realm. But it's the FEY realm, so it's inherently going to fuck with you even if you know what is happening. The time thing -> it was literally sunset for days in some areas.

The drug trip definitely wasn't inspired by the episodic director's personal experiences with acid. Definitely not. 😏

a potion, you say.... yeah.. no.

Spoilers for the campaign regarding Grog and Craven Edge: Grog didn't break the sword. Instead he died because he wouldn't sleep so he could try to make it "full" since it reset on a long rest. They brought him back (deaths and resurrections are more common in the game) but first had to remove the curse from the sword as it was trying to consume his spiritual essence. Then they banished the sword to a pocket plane where they hoped no one would find it.

Tekken 8 just released more characters trailers reaction time !!😄

Matron. Matron of Ravens. Not maiden.

@ShadowyFox_86

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Too old for Maid(en), not old enough for Crone.

Please check out Emisis Blue, it’s long but AMAZING ❤❤❤❤❤❤

13:03 So a bit of the story that was cut from the campagin was Grog tried to release something in a skull the group had got a hold that had a spirit in it and he tried to break it and rolled a one on a strength check and Travis's reaction was priceless. Its in episode 40 at 2 hours 18 minutes and 58 seconds.

My beloved people, i have to say that many of us are REALLY waiting for your next reaction on RWBY ;3

"I can taste the colors" 🤮

When is the next RWBY video