‼️The latest NEC TOKIN fix for PS3 YLOD 1002 ⚠️
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This is not a fix for all YLOD. It fixes only syscon error 1001 or 1002.
PS3 Tantalizer @ripfelix3020
www.psx-place.com/threads/res...
oshpark.com/profiles/RIP-Felix
Official PDF NEC TOKIN
jpn.nec.com/techrep/journal/g...
PS3 Overclock
• Overclocking a PS3 wit...
Syscon Tutorial
• PS3 SYSCON Tutorial | ...
• HOW TO Diagnose a faul...
• Dealing with PS3 YLOD ...
PSHome project
• PlayStation Home Resto...
BGM by Backing Track
"Neon Nights", "Binary Sunrise", "Future Tomorrow", "Levelcap", and "Vercetti Forever"
• Midnight Racer
2024年最新のPS3の修理方法
00:00 Intro
02:13 Teardown
04:22 Syscon
05:44 NEC TOKIN removal
07:23 PS3 Tantalizer
09:49 Soldering
10:56 Testing
12:53 PSHome extraction
13:44 Final Remarks
Пікірлер: 120
Since Premiere has ended, the chat is no longer accessible. Let me post my reply here. @Toni For CELL side, if the TOKIN goes bad, you are likely to see 1001 in the syscon. But be careful, 1001 can be also due to forced shutdown.
@emeraldwordcool1023
13 күн бұрын
Sometimes on a console with weak CELL TOKINs just shutting it down normally will sometimes cause 1001s too
@Cloverboi
13 күн бұрын
1001 is also a general unexpected shutdown error, if it has another error its probably not related at all.
Excellent YT posting. I've repaired numerous PS3/PS4 consoles. Howver, I've never replaced the PS3 TOKIN's yet on the YLOD (SYSCON 1001/1002) units I have - this is a great replacement. Thanks for showing the PS3 Tantalizer installation.
I fixed 3034 by pouring liquid flux to all sides under the BGA until it flooded. Then blowing the hot air under the board until all the flux dried. It's my first time doing this and I'm very happy with the result.
It’s funny looking back at how a lot of folks blamed NEC Tokins (even though like any capacitor, they do indeed go bad and it will depend on the syscon logs) and insisted that replacing the caps would always fix YLOD.
@Blehstor
9 күн бұрын
its not normal for capacitors to have such a short lifespan.. unless they are of terrible quality
my brother in Christ you could have simply replaced the connectors to plug in the CMOS battery
@Agret
9 күн бұрын
Guy can microsolder these resistors onto the tiny PCB but he can't cut and join two wires??
@perkulant4629
18 сағат бұрын
@@Agretsometimes you can just lift the tabs and remove the pins to insert into the other connector.
@Agret
14 сағат бұрын
@@perkulant4629 true, even easier.
"Oh come on, do your thing!"
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
We all know PS3 is good at YLOD lol
@alexandersichwardt3652
10 күн бұрын
Too low on empediance
If you want really satisfying for hot air soldering, get some solder paste. You just put it on the pads, stick the components on, and then carefully apply hot air.
Another great video bud, keep it up!
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
Thanks for the visit!
Good job, I have been watching you for awhile...I have been in this rabbit hole for years..I have over 20 a01 and eo1's...I have been following ripfelix, squeep, the computer Booter and your videos for years...I have a Booter Franky with ripfelix tatilizers....but still love trying to save these wonderful machines....I recommend anybody start with the cheaper dead ps3's before risking a A01..thanks J
@hardwarerepair200
13 күн бұрын
Indeed. My first repair attempt was on a CECHP. And I messed up the TOKIN replacement. Better try the first repair attempt on the console you don't care about as a practice.
@Levin_Pilot_246
13 күн бұрын
my American ps3 CECHA01, with backward compatibility with ps2 (COK - 001) was a total pain in the soul to fix the YLOD, until I noticed it was the "3034 syscon" issue, well, I guess I will have comission to do a full reballing for the RSX Graphic Synthesizer processor, because I am afraid to do such complex soldering... 😂😂😂
Nice work bro. Can u make a video on how to get error code on earlier ps3 That have mullion chip i think your explaining is very clear
Excellent video many thanks for your time and effort from vini
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
This is why i'm subscribed! Good content!!!
@hardwarerepair200
11 күн бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@TheRedOwl
11 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 I hope you'll find some cheap PS4s with wlod or blod it would be a great content for us the viewers to watch and good for you when you fix them to flip them, keep making awesome content tho! 🙌🏻
you are experienced in soldering so why did you not swapped port on cmos battery to the old one?
Hi, is there any chance you coud tell me what model of hot air station you used when you removed the rsx on your older videos ? 🙂 thanks for youe videos, it is nice to see someone making progress without spending thousands on expensive bga rework stations
Very useful video for repairs! Nice selection of music btw, what are yhey called?
@hardwarerepair200
13 күн бұрын
Good taste! I have been using the music from Backing Track backingtrack.gg/
@hardwarerepair200
13 күн бұрын
More specifically, "Neon Nights", "Binary Sunrise", "Future Tomorrow", "Levelcap", and "Vercetti Forever". They are all from the album called "SynthRock Expansion Pack: Part 1"
@hardwarerepair200
13 күн бұрын
Here's the album music.kzread.info/dash/bejne/eIqkmtyYddjZZLg.html
I was under the impression that the YLOD issue is not the TOKINs. It's the RSX failing because of bad underfill underneath the die of the RSX causing solder bump failure, and that it needs to be replaced, and that this 'fix' is not repair, and that ultimately every single 'fat' PS3 model is a ticking timebomb with a bad 90nm RSX chip that wil have to be frankensteined into either the 65nm or 40nm RSX from the Slim model.
@joesaiditstrue
13 күн бұрын
you can get YLOD from 1001 and 1002 syscon error, there are a few things besides rsx failure that can throw YLOD
@milktoast56
13 күн бұрын
The guy in the video said it correctly, also Felix mentioned it in his video that the RSX failing code is 3034, 1002 is usually the tokins
@thetwotones232
11 күн бұрын
Not all fat models have the 90nm chip my cechl01 has the 65nm chip in it from the factory only the first revisions of the fat model have that 90nm chip in it so any cecha01 I forget the other model but yeah cechl01 and forward have the 65nm or 40nm chip in them
@lookitskazzy
11 күн бұрын
You’re right about HL having 65nm but those models don’t have hardware BC which is what the OP really meant
@hardwarerepair200
11 күн бұрын
Both the TOKINs and the RSX have the chance to fail in early models. It's just which component fails first. Eventually, we might need to replace both.
Tantalum capacitors are heat-sensitive. Too much heat can cause them to pop, or you can simply reduce their lifespan.
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was magnificent!
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to solder that well but it was still educational.
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
I am not good at soldering either. I started only 2 years ago.
You can directly soldering capacitors on the motherboard and do not need small one, they are on a chip if self
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing! But I also want to bridge the positive terminals easily. So a tantalizer board is the perfect solution.
Can you make a video of PS3 (fat) with a new non-PS3 power supply? maybe SFX or HDPlex GaN. If you ever make this mod or a conversion like this one make a video!
12:05 What about resoldering the old connector to the new battery
Remember that a particular error in syscon can be a fault in multiple PS3 components and potentially good NEC tokin will be replaced for no reason
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
That's indeed true! It's like a doctor diagnosing a patient. Even the same symptom could be due to different diseases.
@gfelix3552
9 күн бұрын
Eventually they will go bad. This NECs were problematic back then in other electronics. Toshibas were notorious for failing due to this caps.
You should buy the little usb type-c hot plate, works great
i got error 1002 by accidentally knocked one of those tiny resistors or caps between the memory and rsx trying to delid. no error 3+++ on syscon diag. i know the console was working before that 'big mistake' because i have been using the tantalums for both cpu and rsx for 2 years. i am newbie in measuring whether current and voltages are correct for ps3. weirdly enough, after that one tiny thing knocked off. it can still turn on but no display and for 30 seconds then ylod. cpu is very warm and rsx a little i have posted this on subreddit but received no response other than 'buy a new one'
@hardwarerepair200
11 күн бұрын
1002 indicates that the RSX is not getting the power it is supposed to receive. So it makes sense that you get 1002 after knocking off components near the RSX.
on the ps3 fat it is common for it to show ylod when running the game at the same time as playing music
Don't measure capacitors with a multimeter, it rarely goes well. Use an LCR. You can get a cheap LCR T4 (clone of German Mikrocontrollerforum's open source Transistortester) it works just fine, or any of the related devices. It's one of my most useful tools in electronics repair, it really does a lot. I don't think ripfelx will introduce any further significant changes to the Tantalizer, and you don't need aluminium electrolytic capacitors there since it's specified for modern polymer tantalum.
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
Oh, I didn't know that. I thought multimemter is capable of measuring many things.
Hey I have a ps2 and I found that has no video no sound . And there's tantalum caps under the gpu do you think that I'd my problem because I took em off and tested the mf. And there supposed to be 220mf and its reading most of them 290-300!?
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
The value seems normal. A working cap should have a higher reading than the supposed value. So 300 is perfectly normal for a 220 cap.
@neddy1287
8 күн бұрын
Have you checked if the PS2 is phat or slim. As for no video or sound is usually a broken AV port or no power to the board. As you weren't clear on the information
10:17 Hello, Please where to buy NEC/TOKIN purple card after YLOD repair? Like eBay or Aliexpress? Feel free to both links... Thank you
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
Here you go! oshpark.com/profiles/RIP-Felix
Holy cow
Interesting.
Cool you found playstation home
Wish I had the equipment to fix my old fat backwards compatible PS3 YLOD RLOD
This is going to be a game changer if we can buy them premade
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
Computer Booter did. You can check out his ebay www.ebay.com/str/computerbooter916
@MyCatTookOverMyChannel
10 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 Have a direct link to the product this is just the front end store
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/255733429246?itmmeta=01HYHDQ5MSKEJ1VEB0KBF806F4&hash=item3b8ae673fe:g:mLwAAOSwp2RlnvkH
Believe it or not I came up with the pcb idea a few years back I'm surprised it came out recently
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
I am also surprised by how active the PS3 community is!
@neddy1287
9 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 Yeah on psx-place site that where I mentioned about the pcb idea
@neddy1287
8 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 Yeah I mentioned the idea of the pcb in the psx place site
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
psx place is a very informative website! Most of the PS3 knowledge I have came from there.
Those nec token adhesive are no joke. I just got under it and ripped it off from the middle.
@hardwarerepair200
11 күн бұрын
What tool do you use?
@sergiojimenez3415
11 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 just some surface cutters and an exacto knife to get in there a bit.
Power supply can do yellow light of death also... 👏
Hii can anyone help me with that I have a ps3 slim when I started it's beeps 3 time and shut down and red led blink in 5th time I started it starts normal and I play GTA 5 for hours without any issues but when I play call of duty modern warfare 2 it work then doing 3 beeps and red led blink again and I don't have temperature issue why? Also can I see the error syscon through the ps3 when it work or I need to soldiering RX and TX Also can I use Arduino uno or ESP32 to see the error code please help?
@neddy1287
8 күн бұрын
The 3 beeps during a shut down for the slim usually something minor. Do a safe mode and rebuild the hard drive and if you have access to a 2.5 adaptor and check for physical bad sectors using a paid software called HD Sentinel as well hard drive health check as a failing hard drive can cause problems to the PS3 like slow loading, crashing during games and the list goes on
Excellent New life for those backward consoles
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
Saving dead consoles has become my hobby now!
Low temp solder also helps with removal
@neddy1287
8 күн бұрын
Had the same idea or use a high powered soldering iron that can output 450c at the tip and use circular blade Dremel to cut the tokin in smaller strip so it be manageable to take apart
@daijoubu4529
8 күн бұрын
@@neddy1287 i would be worried about ripping off the traces if you apply too much heat too long lol
@hardwarerepair200
5 күн бұрын
Indeed it happened to me in my very first attempt removing the NEC TOKIN. I set the hot air to 450C and it ended up ripping off the traces together with the NEC TOKIN.
I miss 5 years ago when I thought that capacitor problems only affected ancient hardware from 30 years ago. It seems like all retro hardware is going to be rare in the future, because most people will see YLOD and just trash their PS3.
@theantiveganchannel3596
11 күн бұрын
i still got MY PS3 has YLOD 60GB still got the original box i also got a n64 with the original box too
@hardwarerepair200
11 күн бұрын
Are you planing to fix it and give it a second life?
@oOignignoktOo1
11 күн бұрын
I thought it was more than just the NEC tokens on old PS3's and the YLOD is also due to the same problems that microsoft had with the 360's GPUs in Xenon and Zephyr motherboards. It sucks the hardware was faulty from the word go because the PS3 and 360 were without a doubt the last best generation of console gaming. Gaming stopped being exciting once the PS4 / Xbox One era came out and modern gaming feels like a soulless money grab with forced social engineering from investment firm consultants and microtransactions under the guise of gacha boxes..
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
Just like when a person gets sick, it's never due only one single disease. When a console fails, it's never due to only one component. Both require diagnosis to pinpoint the exact issue.
I just replied to your old video "Dealing with ylod in 2024" from like a year ago. Any chance you could check out my comments and explain a little for me? I've just never encountered a circuit like that in my hobbyist repairs. I'm not a newbie in electronics repairs themselves (the work), but im well below a newbie in diagnostics and understanding more complex circuitry like logic.
you almost win every aspect in this project, but you lose only with small cmos battery connector😅
Please please donate your home cache to other playstation home revival groups like splicewaves home headquarters, Destination home is close source and haven’t updated their cache repo for years now.
@hardwarerepair200
10 күн бұрын
Oh, I didn't know there are other revival groups. Thank you for letting me know, I will donate to all the groups I know then!
is there any ps3 model which doesn't have these problems?
@erikt211
13 күн бұрын
CECH-21xx and onwards no longer have them.
@lookitskazzy
11 күн бұрын
Slim/Super Slim.
@hardwarerepair200
7 күн бұрын
Starting from model CECH2100 and onwards, it becomes very robust.
Better to install boards for tantals.
Wait, so all this time I was scraping lacquer like a total idiot? 😂😂😂
If only there's a way to buy those tantalizers in Philippines
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
Can't you order from oshpark? It seems they ship to everywhere.
@SianaGearz
12 күн бұрын
You can just get the Gerber files from there and get any manufacturer of your choice manufacture them for you.
Hell yea dude dump that data ;p
Kinda gay that this isn't open source, but at the very least I gotta give him props, they do what literally no other proprietary board maker for systems ever does: let you have the files so you can print them yourself. That alone kinda redeems it for me but the price is what makes it based. It's always "nah you gotta get it from me :))" then 6 months later they're out of stock and never coming back.
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
$2 is for 3 boards. So each board is only $0.66. But I guess small order PCB printing is always more expensive than large order.
Bro forgot to type ps3 on the title
@hardwarerepair200
2 күн бұрын
Thank you for pointing it out! I have added it to the title.
@ryancool1416
2 күн бұрын
@@hardwarerepair200 you're welcome brother
Hasn't it been demomstrated already that replacing the caps does not fix ylod and rather it's an nvidia manufacturing process defect on some revisions or am I confusing two different issues ?
@IIMCextreme
15 күн бұрын
Thats the 3034 error If its a 1001 or 1002 its usually the caps
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
It all depends on the syscon history. That's why always check syscon before attempting any fix.
@ffsn99b
14 күн бұрын
Ylod is general hardware fault. Hence why you see he checked the syscon log to have a clearer idea of what is going on
@ripfelix3020
14 күн бұрын
To clearify, the most recent Tantalizer revision needs to be trimmed. You need to cut off the outer edge down the middle of the slots, so that you have a plated edge to wick solder to. It's just designed to make soldering to the motherboard easier. To avoid using hot air, which can stress the BGA and cause a solder ball to crack. As you can see removing the old tokins can be difficult, so it's important to learn how to do it without using heat. The capacitors I linked to were just an example, so you can refrence the right specification. You should shop around for a better price and to find ones that are in stock.
@hardwarerepair200
14 күн бұрын
Thank you for making the Tantalizer which makes our life easier! At 10:40, I also realized that I need to outer edge. I will do it better next time! Thank you for the comment, I wish I could pin this. But it is under a reply and can't be pinned.