"Don't drink the flavor-aide" just doesn't have the ring to it.

@montecorbit8280

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's British....they can't pronounce Kool-Aid!!

@TBH-nu2so

Жыл бұрын

@@montecorbit8280 It was actually Flavor Aid that was used, Kool Aid just sounds more memorable

@montecorbit8280

Жыл бұрын

@@TBH-nu2so And almost nobody knows what flavor aid is....but everyone knows what Kool-Aid is.

@TBH-nu2so

Жыл бұрын

@@montecorbit8280 Yeah ik, kinda what I said

@OneTruePhreak

Жыл бұрын

Mofo too cheap to spend the extra few cents for real Kool-Aid.

I'm Guyanese. My grandparents almost ended up in the compound. I'm kinda lucky to be here

@eurekasquared9853

Жыл бұрын

Blessed-not lucky.

@thatonequeergundamfan71

Жыл бұрын

Aye wydm "kinda" tho are you okay man?

@mandibailey9104

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you are here

@Thee.Absurdist

11 ай бұрын

Mm-hm

@domo201

11 ай бұрын

Hey I’m Guyanese too 😄

This happened the day after my 8th birthday. It’s the first news story that I remember clearly. I remember staring at the television with the footage of all those dead bodies. It was a lot to process as a child. Looking back as an adult, it’s still a lot to process.

@Bamboule05

Жыл бұрын

I remember that one, too. I heard a recording years later of the moment when he urged his followers to drink the poison. It's eery how the voices of all these people and children die away and it all becomes quiet within 20 minutes.

@brs690

11 ай бұрын

This happened about a decade before I was born and I saw pictures of it growing up.

@kryw10

11 ай бұрын

You are so right. I remember seeing initial photos or film of the bodies around the compound and just not being able to comprehend it. I was 11, I knew what had happened, I understood it, but the magnitude of it was, and still is, overwhelming.

@brs690

11 ай бұрын

@Bamboule05 I didn't know there was a recording of it until you brought it up and all I can say is wow there's things you can't unhear.

@AmberGNoExcusesMinistries

4 ай бұрын

Aw 😢

Thank you for getting it right and mentioning it was flavor aid and not kool aid!

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

Жыл бұрын

Yep, that detail gets misreported a lot but the people who inspected the compound also were attacked with machetes by the leaders goons if I recall. Some expired from their wounds and if that is the case I hope they are recognized as the heroes they were. Doubtlessly Iam sure there were attempts to bribe these people at first but I would love to read up on them and their accounts first before I speak on the matte.

@Rangerfudd

9 ай бұрын

@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusa US senator and camera crew were killed trying to help families leave

@Wilson_Does_Stuff

4 ай бұрын

900+ people died and you only care if he got the name of the poison laced drink right? Who fucking cares!?

i used to live in guyana and my babysitter grew up on the people’s temple. she said she remembered his voice on the speakers in the morning. thankfully her family was able to escape before everything went downhill.

@dwjoseph59

11 ай бұрын

👍👍👍

There is a miniseries made in the 80s about this massacre called "The Guyana Tragedy: The Jim Jones Story", which is really good and I highly recommend it. What's more, the mere fact that the great James Earl Jones appears in it is reason enough to see it. There is also a film made at the end of the seventies called "Guyana: Crime of the Century" (belonging to the exploitation genre), which is more commercial than artistic, but it is worth giving it a try, since it has great icons of classic cinema in it, such as Joseph Cotten, John Ireland and Gene Barry

@michaelfoye1135

Жыл бұрын

Did they miss the part where he was neck deep in San Fransisco Democrat party politics, and was a Maoist Communist?

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelfoye1135 Ehhhh he was a huge proponent of gun rights and a highly religious church leader. He tried his hand with the Communist Party but was thrown out in 1952. Through and through he was a man of God and got started as a pastor and kept the religious godly angle all the way through his death. Live for God, die for God. Also worth pointing out that the Democratic party of the time was deeply religious and conservative - much closer to the current Republican Party in terms of politics. The Democrats wouldn’t become liberal until the Civil Rights era when the conservatives left over support of desegregation and founded the Dixiecrats and then joined the Republican party after a Democrat signed the Civil Rights Act.

The story about the investigation team is also really sad. It was led by Leo Ryan, a politician who was really in to getting to know the peoples experience. He would regularly lead investigatory teams and even go undercover to see how the common people were being treated. He likely didn’t even need to go hands on with the investigation.

And this is where we get the term, "drinking the Kool-Aid"from....

@Perfectkid197

11 ай бұрын

But it was flavor-aid

@GayleTate

8 ай бұрын

​​@@Perfectkid197not the point the point is it's a warning to people do not end up like these people 😢 dead.

Scientology: Write that down. Write that down!

It's with ppl like these that we can't have any good things....

Jim Jones was a coward to the end and didn't kill himself he had one of his mistresses do it for him before she killed herself

I caught a documentary (with some scenes recreated) on this in middle school and it haunts me to this day. Truly disturbing and disgusting what someone will do to take advantage of those who are vulnerable.

@janedoe-hq9vn

Жыл бұрын

It happens more often than a lot of people realize. Many don't want to, or can't accept that there are some very horrible people out there who are not the least bit concerned about other's well-being, and only prey upon vulnerable people in order to satisfy their wants, needs and desires...

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

Жыл бұрын

@@janedoe-hq9vn a rather sizable portion of the population in 1st world countries literally can’t see homeless people, they block them out mentally without realizing it. A lot and I mean a lot of People would rather make their peers suffer than to recognize how bad things can get out in the world.

@janedoe-hq9vn

Жыл бұрын

@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus I was referring to cons who prey upon vulnerable individuals, manipulating them to get what they want. There are many people who are struggling themselves and are very aware of the homeless situation. There are also people who are homeless, based on very poor decisions (including addiction). Imo, donating to charities isn't helping the situation, especially when some charities have misappropriated funds. People lose faith in charities because of this. Sure, there are some people who flat out don't care, and that's with any country.

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

Жыл бұрын

@@janedoe-hq9vn and yet the vast majority of charities and and churches provide better dollar for dollar results than the government leeches do, funny how that is eh? Really does show how incompetent the feds are if that’s their completions and they are taking a L. I was mostly referring to the fact Karen will ban guns rather than ban the building of slums so she can feel good about her self and feel safe while being neither in reality. If you wish to clown on drug addicts then look no farther than old people, they get a free pass, they suck up funds needlessly while ruining every market in America and act like it’s ok that they get pain pills for a paper cut while young folk get told to suck it up and be a man when injured in a coal mine or at war. forcing them to self medicate thanks to a out break in addicts caused by companies and proliferated by people in your ages demographic if I had to guess. Want to blame someone for drug addicts? Blame the country that made those substances so tightly controlled birthing a black market and a society forcing people to self medicate to cope with how fubar their lives and reality are. It’s easy to blame the individuals but when millions are like that it might be a bigger issue than moral failing. That lie failed in the Industrial Revolution. America needs asylums and it needs jobs made by and for Americans that pay enough and help people move up rather than down in society. The USA had it in the 50s but that generation sold that away because they at their hearts were not good people or suckers.

@grovermartin6874

9 ай бұрын

​@@janedoe-hq9vnThere is a nonprofit organization called Charity Navigator that rates charities on many different levels (like hiw much of the money they take in goes to advertising, clerical support, administration, etc. Very easy to use, very transparent.

The fact that he claimed he did everything for god makes it 100x worse

@CT.editor

4 ай бұрын

"Thy shall not kill" Jimmy killing over 900 people and killing himself: *Welp I fucked up*

As the concoction was being mixed, he sent armes gunmen to the airstrip to gun down a US Senator and the journalists that were with him before they could leave.

@janedoe-hq9vn

Жыл бұрын

He sure did. He knew that they were going to spill the beans....and after that happened, he knew that it was over for him since people would come looking for the Senator and his crew...

@angelabarnes7588

Жыл бұрын

@@janedoe-hq9vn They took all the bodies to Ft McArther in San Pedro, Ca. where my Mom & sisters moved to about 3-4 month later....& They were STILL THERE! Mom said the base reamed of death.

@janedoe-hq9vn

Жыл бұрын

@@angelabarnes7588 what was going on? Waiting for families to identify and pick up their deceased loved ones? I can't imagine that smell...wow

@angelabarnes7588

Жыл бұрын

@@janedoe-hq9vn Not just notifying families. Identifying the victims!!

I remember a documentary(?) I was shown during school about this. It was pieced together from home movies taken by residents. A "test" of loyalty, it was announced over the pa system that he was dead. Then filmed the mayhem that followed. In the center of the screen was a little girl, maybe 2 years old, crying. She was nearly trampled in the chaos. No one picked her up. Then, it was announced that it was only a test. And he was pleased by the show of emotion. Every time a movie shows a child crying during a disaster scene, I'm reminded of the girl. At least in these movies, the child is picked up and rescued. I wonder if the writers know the source of the trope.

@JeremyRight-zi4yp

8 ай бұрын

Remembering this was a communist cult, it reminds me of the expected reaction on stalin's death. In fact, there are just too many uncanny parallels.

@beverleybee1309

8 ай бұрын

@@JeremyRight-zi4yp indeed

What a coward poisons everyone than takes his own life.

@GigaSane

29 күн бұрын

It was explained with the tapes he left behind that he intended to poison himself too, however after seeing the pain his "followers" were in he simply shot himself

Man, those Elvis sunglasses really went to his head .

They also shot a significant number of the adults and children - because in the last moments they realized what was happening - so many were found with execution-style gunshot wounds.

one of three of Jim Jones's children survived the massacre Stephan jones

i remember hearing the death tape in some top 10 worst tapes recovered video on youtube as a kid, and i gotta say i was horrified imagining jones recording as all around him slowly expire. it's chilling

"... Cyanide laced Fla-vor-aid"... Wait, Jen, that's just an Alka-Seltzer being dropped in a glass of water! 😂

@mandibailey9104

Жыл бұрын

Jen is my favorite part of The Casual Criminalist. I can't lie 😅 she helps with the devastation factor. Simon's rants help, too.

@mandibailey9104

Жыл бұрын

Plop plop Fizz fizz oh what a relief it is That it's not freaking cyanide!!

@DavidSmith-vr1nb

11 ай бұрын

​@@mandibailey9104 Maybe YT creators aren't allowed to show actual cyanide, or perhaps they couldn't get hold of any.

Oh yeah right when i remembered i didn't have my dayly Dose of 'gruesome shite with Simon whistler' 👌

While morbid, there are audio recordings of Jones final speech. Where in he convinced his congregation to drink the flavor aid.

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

It was something they had practiced repeatedly over and over at his insistence. Many didn’t even know it was actually poisoned until the screaming started and still others drank it themselves and gave it to their kids. Wild.

@AkuMugen

Жыл бұрын

@@AnarexicSumo from the audio he told them what was in it, and he had tested members devotion prior by claiming he had laced the drinks but hadn't

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

The entire 45 minute recording is a recording of literally the entire mass suicide. You can even hear Christine Miller trying to stop what was happening, hearing all the people. It's incredibly eerie that by the time it is done, everything is completely silent.

Fun fact: he was on amphetamines and towards the end would go on hour rants. Just imagine having to hear this man's voice for most of the day. The speakers where everywhere. And because of the amphetamines he literally never stopped talking.

The photos will haunt you, especially if you’re a parent. Just let it go. Something are better off not knowing.

@Garm87

Жыл бұрын

History always repeats itself. I prefer knowledge, no matter how great or gruesome.

@greglongmore6503

Жыл бұрын

You don't want to turn a blind eye to this stuff. A person could easily read about it without pictures.

@Sernival

Жыл бұрын

​@@Garm87this is the most unintentionally reddit comment ive seen in a while

@Sernival

Жыл бұрын

​@@greglongmore6503well yeah theyre just saying the pics arent worth it for how disturbing they are

@greglongmore6503

Жыл бұрын

@@Sernival Nt arguing back but I'm saying just throw out the pics and understand what happened because it will come up later. I'm 43; when I first became aware I was probably around my atheist years but since I started taking my Christian Faith seriously I stopped allowing such imagery into my eye-sockets. I'm also an academic, so I'd be remiss if I didn't encourage people to understand how these things work (if you are atheist and ready to call Christianity a cult don't worry about it, I'm not here for that so I won't respond). For example, one of the biggest things you'll hear is the racial harmony. So what does that tell us? That the U.S. had such a race/poverty problem while calling itself the greatest (thereby making these people feel invisible) that they literally chose death over these United States. Jim Jones was gifted but anyone with a silver tongue and a will to steal of life itself could have filled that role.

As a Guyanese, my mom was 2 and my dad was 8 when this happened and lived in rose hall town so they were luckily safe, but years later, it still haunts them.

I remember when it happened. so sad seeing all those dead bodies, especially the kids & babies. Back then you didn't see that a whole lot on the news, not like today.

I lost an aunt there and i went to the church in san francisco with my parents and grandparents

Demagoguery is never okay. Pay attention trumpers.

Dude was so cheap he didnt even give them the good stuff.

If we can’t live in peace then why can’t we die in peace - Jim jones ( while children drank the cool aid )

Keep up the good work!

@anonymous-zg7wh

Жыл бұрын

💀💀👀

i think this inspired the scene in Game of Thrones

Don't forget that one of those investigators was a U.S. senator who was murdered at the plane.

Someone shot that man. Im not sad.

is there a full video about this?

@DebTheDevastator

Жыл бұрын

He has one on Biographics. It's called Jim Jones: Progressive to Predator.

@YHShinVH

6 ай бұрын

Watch dankulas video for a full in depth rundown of the event

Ppl like this out of there ..I'll never omm

I don't believe the main narrative of what happened. The night before this massacre these people was singing Whitney Houston "no matter what they take from me they can't take away my dignity" "I believe the children are our future". They was a happy community and the NBC news reported residents saying "I'm happy here, I'm free to leave if I want but I don't want to, I invite my family to come stay with me here"

The recording was horrible. The cries of the children and the protest of the people of not wanting to die.. absolutely awful

@BloodyGangsta11

Ай бұрын

Where is it?

@TheFatMan

Ай бұрын

@@BloodyGangsta11 You're listening to it

" For many will come in My name saying "I am the Christ ,and will mislead many. " Matthew 24:5 NASB

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like Trump.

@michaeldriskell2038

8 ай бұрын

@Wh40kFinatic Let us pray he only wants to fix the mess we are in and get the inflation down , along with GAS PRICES, etc.

This was a murder not suicide 😢

@CT.editor

4 ай бұрын

yea obviously, it was a mass suicidal murder

One evil con man who should have been arrested in America and locked away. RIP to the children 🙏

Is it just me or does the guy look like henry cavil's evil twin

Welcome to eden based on this story on Netflix

I have a song about this which you can sing to the tune of "Downtown". Ready? Here we go! When youre down and you're broke and your religion.s a joke, why don't you go and see, Jim Jones. When your life's incomplete there's only one man to meet. Why don't you go and see, Jim Jones. Watch him mix the Kool-Aid in a vat that is so lethal. Listen to the anguished cries of all the dying people. Everyone dies. The revs the most gracious host so let's lift up those glasses and give him a toast. You're in Jonestown, drink with the Reverend Jim. Jonestown, chances are mighty slim. Jonestown. People keep dropping like flies. Jonestown. Jonestown. Congressman Ryan on his mission of spying said he would not drink with Jim Jones. Such a public disgrace they had to blow off his face because he would not drink with Jim Jones. Watch him mix the Kool-Aid in the vat that is so lethal. Listen to the anguished cries of all the dying people. Everyone dies. The revs the most gracious host so let's lift up those glasses and give him a toast. You're in Jonestown, drink with the Reverend Jim. Jonestown. Chances are mighty slim. Jonestown. People keep dropping like flies. Jonestown. Jonestown. First you cough and you wheeze and then you drop to your knees from drinking Kool-Aid with Jim Jones. Then youre shipped to the states decomposing in crates from drinking Kool-Aid with Jim Jones. Watch him mix the Kool-Aid in the vat that is so lethal. Listen to the anguished cries of all the dying people. Everyone dies. The revs the most gracious host so let's lift up our glasses and give him a toast. You're in Jonestown, drink with the Reverend Jim. Jonestown, chances are mighty slim. Jonestown, people keep dropping like flies. Jonestown. Jonestown. Jonestown. Jonestown. And I apologize to all the Rugby players who already know this after -match drink-up song😅

It is said that Jim didn't take his iwn life, but was shot later at his iwn request to be shot after he made sure everyone else was going too.

From the FBI website: "A few apparently objected, but in the end, more than 900 cultists, including more than 200 children, were soon lying lifeless on the ground. Jones, too, was dead, with a gunshot wound to the head. Jim Jones, right, with an unidentified man at Jonestown on November 18, 1978."

Mind blown!! I have just listened to the tape. I don't know what to think.😮

This happens in my country 😢

Imagine if their crew ran the doge coin. Game over

*children AND WIVES!!*

@CT.editor

4 ай бұрын

Husbands left the chat

They drank the Kool Aid ! Εχει μεινει η εκφραση.

I am Guyanese my mom knows the story it goes like he is a cult leader and he taught he was god and the pepole belived him he didn't what to hurt them but he taught if he made them drink posin they would go to heaven so yeah

As a 40 year old Why am I just finding out about this through my grandma smh 🤦🏽‍♀️tragic

Re: parents signing over their children to him; I wonder if he used the kids as tax deductions while in America, before leaving and creating JonesTown... Second, I have watched a documentary on this situation and it had audio recordings of when the people were being poisoned, many against their will. You can hear screams and crying in the background, as Jim is ranting on...plus, I believe he didn't actually off himself but had someone do it for him.. Horrible.. I find it weird in the photos that were taken after the mass suicide/homicide, that the majority of the people who are dead outside, are laying in the same position (many of them), on their side or stomachs... Also, when Jim was in the states, he would have people in his cult, give him their welfare money and food stamps (for the ones who were on assistance)...he was nothing more than a conman...and a good one at that..

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

they didn’t sign them over to him but the church. Jim Jones was a huge proponent of communal raising vs parental raising of kids but in reality it was just a subtext to give religious teachings about how faith and the church were more important than life and family.

Link to full video?

my parents were born in 1972 and 1973..

Don’t put all your eggs in one basket

Thank you dad

Protected by the newly independent Guyana. Should've let a certain group take him out when the opportunity arose.

What happened to the video on la matanza

Amazing how these hypnotised self ordained idiots exist!.. I remember this.. sad bur true😔

The movie they made on this was actually good......considering the fact

I don't think they were being held against their will. And no one signed over their children. I never saw that report.

Am I the only one who came from Bad Things - Cults / She Knows - J Cole?

@zoicake

10 күн бұрын

Nope, I’m curious and shocked too

There was a governor or high political figure in that investigative team, wasnt there?

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

a state senator who was shot and killed

YaY Flavor-Aid Hmm Flavonoids

Well, I guess we can say that the LDS Church is not a cult.

That was a painful death, I wonder when it dawned on them, oh sh!t we are not seeing anything angelic or this is hell

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

You can tell from the 45 minute recording that it was a complete mess and disaster. Some questioned it, others didn't.

He didn't take his own life though. He was fleeing, and somebody who was dying shot him in the head.

@slimpaco

7 ай бұрын

Naw. What happened is that either Jim Jones killed himself or Annie Moore (his nurse) killed him and then killed herself

:/ one thing my home country is known for and its this.

@MicahPachirisuGuy

11 ай бұрын

i feel you guyana user

This is why you don't take cool aid from people you don't truly know. Jokes aside Jim James Warren Jones had pretty high kill score ratio for 1 guy, what a beast. Okay, okay, now jokes aside, the guy was fucking mess and insase. Really interesting to read about, really fucked to he existed. Even worse than Mason and we all know how fucked and drowned on his own farts that guy was.

Jim Jones n était pas différent des témoins de Jéhovah et pourtant ça ne dérange pas beaucoup les gouvernements

You know why there aren't more Jonestown jokes ? The punchlines are too long

What team that was sent to the compound? The CIA or what?

Want to see a prime example of Socialism, look up Jim Jones and Jonestown.

At least Simon didn't say kool-aid.

@drewski5730

Жыл бұрын

I’m quite certain kook-aid is a company/brand you wouldn’t want to piss off for no reason

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

It's a completely inconsequential detail.

@johnclaybaugh9536

8 ай бұрын

​@@Wh40kFinaticKool aid wasn't present on the xompound. Details matter.

@johnclaybaugh9536

8 ай бұрын

​@@drewski5730it is a brand name. And it wasn't used. Details matter.

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

@@johnclaybaugh9536 It really doesn't. It's like getting worked up over Malt-O-Meal or Captain Crunch.

I doubt seriously he "took" his life, another member took it for him at that point

@just_a-guy69

16 күн бұрын

Maybe but these types of people do take their own life ,see hitler for example

Jones was raised Pentecostal but became interested in Marxism. He combined the two, and with his narcissism and psychopathy formed a unique cult. It was only when certain members went to the media and his actions started to make the news that he moved his operations to South America. Before this Jones was even on the San Francisco council!

@3rdtimesthecharm376

Жыл бұрын

So that's where the Babylonian Racial Integration and 'welfare' programs of the cult came from....

Here is a recording of the final poisoning kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZqWqbx9ksW7o6g.html

I still think one of his followers shot him before killing themself!! I just don't believe that he willing killed himself!!

I bear witness that there is no God but Allah Almighty and I bear witness that Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) is the final messenger. ❤

@vincemcintyre9898

3 ай бұрын

Amin.

Please read the Bible y’all and see this was wicked

@just_a-guy69

16 күн бұрын

Dude bold of gou to preach a religion in the comments of a video where 900 people died pretty much due to religion

@Dub4Yah

16 күн бұрын

@@just_a-guy69 not religion I said the Bible. The Bible didn’t kill those people a wicked man did

Far cry 5 reference?

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

This was one incident that probably inspired the story. There are many stories like this that went into the game.

I was in wales uk for around a month and every person without exception told me their name was something jones, wales is really the jones town, a place called gwent was like time travelling 200+ years in the past, it was scary

And ive heard its all oj youtube for the sick people who want to watch it

@CT.editor

4 ай бұрын

What's sick about wanting to do my own research on the incident? it's not like I WANT listen to kids crying

I think you need to do a bit more research, but you are close to the truth...

Did he really take his own life? 🤔

@wallsterrence

2 ай бұрын

Yes he shot himself

@LeeHunt-mu9nb

2 ай бұрын

@@wallsterrence That may not be true, he may have faked his own death. It's strongly suggested that Jonestown may have been a CIA operative.

He didn’t “take his own life” he watched how painful the poison was in the others & chickened out. In fact was SUCH a coward, he wouldn’t take his own life. He forced one of his men still standing to shoot him. What a great “leader”

@natukondeh9043

10 ай бұрын

Not exactly, and you're just assuming, but ok.

@CT.editor

4 ай бұрын

he actually did kill himself. The popo found the gun in his hand

🤬

I've said it before and I'll say it again this deserves a full-length video as too many topics of these shorts?

Most sane religion

That Jones outfit sounds a bit like the government doesn’t it

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

Not really. They were a staunchly anti-government church and the government investigating their church for abuse was literally what caused Jim Jones to give the kill order.

Don't worry. Is yummy coolade

Kinginang to buhay pa ba to?

That's where we get the expression drink the coolade.

CE, BCE, evolution, global warming, the election was fair and secure; this is known as drinking the Kool-Aid

@solartaire1

Жыл бұрын

So you're saying you happily drink the Kool-Aid?

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

Funny how defensive they get any time a religious church kills its congregation.

I bet he was a Progressive Democrat.

@AnarexicSumo

Жыл бұрын

Actually a very Godly Church leader who preached his followers live for God and die for God which they ultimately did. Also a huge gun proponent, for obvious reasons.

Shorts are dumb

MAGA seems to be going down the same path. Good. The less the better.

@Wh40kFinatic

8 ай бұрын

MAGA is literally a cult of personality.