After Bilbo's birthday party in Fellowship of the Ring, Frodo returns to Bag End and finds Gandalf cryptically muttering about "riddles in the dark". Now you know what that means. That's literally the title of the chapter in the book (The Hobbit) when Bilbo meets Gollum. The eagles are not silent animals, but a kingdom, and though they are friends with Gandalf they are not his to command. They are not horses to be ridden. The Lord of the Eagles told Gandalf: "We are glad to cheat the goblins of their sport, and glad to repay our thanks to you, but we will not risk ourselves for dwarves in the southward plains."

Long story short, one of the biggest reasons these movies use so much CGI is because of the incredibly short preproduction, due to the original director, Guillermo del Toro, leaving for another project and the studio forcing them to stick to the original filming schedule. They had three months, which is nothing. They had to start filming before they even finalized Azog's appearance. They had three iterations filmed, which can be seen as different orcs. Sadly, if they had a proper schedule, most, if not all, of these films' flaws would have been fixed. Being forced to film it in 3D didn't help. Yes, orcs and goblins are the same thing. They're made to look a little different in the movies, but orc and goblin are just different names for the same folk.

@terrylandess6072

8 күн бұрын

Peter Jackson looked like a different man when this was finished (Trilogy). As if the joy of film making was gone. He gave everything he had (as did others) to do the best they could amid extreme studio interference which never existed on the LotR.

“Throw hands, throw talons, throw Wargs definitely” 😆👌🏻

Cate Blanchett playing as Lady Galadriel in this movie looks just as beautiful as she did in the Lord of the Rings trilogy

@kahlareacts

11 күн бұрын

Yes, she is breathtaking

@mrsrevan1

11 күн бұрын

One of my favorite characters.

@skinnyjax

11 күн бұрын

She looks great at 8,000 + yrs old.

A really obscure callback in Fellowship of the Ring that reactors never mention or show - right after Bilbo drops the ring and leaves Bag End, Gandalf is staring in thought at the fireplace, and says “Riddles in the dark …”. Gandalf is thinking about Bilbo’s tale of the riddle contest in Gollum’s cave. Or you can say that’s a bit of fan service to Hobbit fans, as that’s the chapter name in “The Hobbit” that covers that episode.

Lovely reaction, as usual! There are four key scenes in this film that always get the feels train going; the Gandalf and Galadriel scene, the pity of Bilbo towards Gollum, Bilbo's speech on why he came back, and Bilbo and Thorin's hug at the end. They really showcase the themes of the book, and Tolkien's wider mythology, of kindness, mercy, compassion, and forgiveness in a beautiful and sincere way.

Totally love Gollum's facial expressions in the cave with Bilbo. Cracks me up every time. The MoCap is mind-boggling for its time.

@terrylandess6072

8 күн бұрын

"You gave him your name _and_ address" cracked me up.

Saruman was very wise, he knew sauron could return, you can see this in his worried Look, but he is too arrogant to accept it. Btw Saruman was good at this point, you will see it in the 3th movie

@Kissamiess

6 күн бұрын

Yes, he's arrogant and things he's the only one who can figure things out. I think that's also why he eventually switches sides. He sees no way to beat Sauron and therefore he thinks no one can do it, and it's better to join him than be destroyed.

I am going to NZ in September to visit Hobbiton for Bilbo's Birthday celebrations! I went last year and it was so good that I had to go again and bring my friends along this time! I'm so excited and watching people appreciate the films for the first time is getting me further hyped to see all the locations like Edoras in the south island!

@pamelahofman1785

11 күн бұрын

Sounds great! Have a wonderful time!

One fun bit of casting. The Great Goblin who took them captive is voiced by the same Australian actor who did Bruce the Shark in ‘Finding Nemo’.

I love these movies. They're more cartooney and childish than LoTR but then so is the book The Hobbit. I love the creative action scenes and great acting!

The CGI is because there were lots of disputes with Harvey Weinstein over the LOTR and Hobbit movies, including protracted legal fights (which is also why there are extended versions - Weinstein wanted LOTR in one movie, so Jackson sneakily tricked him by filming all three together. But even he was forced to put shorter versions in the cinema release versions). Jackson didnt want to do the Hobbit and the director Guillermo Del Toro was contracted to do it. But after a lot of disputes Del Toro quit. Del Toro is famous for his FX as well and has his own FX team. Peter Jackson stepped in at short notice to rescue the production but a lot of the LOTR FX team werent available (because of the short notice). The result is this CGI. But its a miracle the Hobbit movies got made at all - they were literally writing the scenes while they were filming them. The various legal proceedings went on for about 15 years. Also, Gandalf chose a hobbit because - as the book makes clear - Hobbits still exist. But they have the ability to go unseen by "big folk". Which means even without the ring a hobbit can avoid being seen. The events where bilbo got separated from the dwarves in the goblin caves are slightly different in the book (they are fleeing the goblins, one of the dwarves is carrying bilbo on his shoulders, and he bangs his head on the roof of a cave tunnel just as a bunch of goblins catch up with the dwarves again), but the movie shows the goblins overlooking Bilbo, which is consistent with the hobbit's ability to go unseen. Thats also why Gandalf saw Frodo as ideal for breaking into Mordor.

@kahlareacts

11 күн бұрын

I figured it must have been something like that especially since it seems like he was fighting an uphill battle to make these movies in the first place.

@tileux

11 күн бұрын

@@kahlareacts I should add that the reason Del Toro's FX team didnt stay on is because Del Toro owns his FX company and is one of the FX guys. He has a very distinctive FX style - if youve seen Pan's Labrynth, Hell boy - the golden army, or Pacific Rim, you would have noticed how different his FX is to everyone else's - and the Del Toro team had a very different vision for everything which wouldnt have worked at short notice with Jackson's vision of how everything looked. Many people dream of a Del Toro remake of LOTR and The Hobbit, because it would be very different in style (and probably truer to the books), but I dont think that will happen.

@AishaIsFabulous-x-

11 күн бұрын

​@@tileuxI particularly love the fact that the orc with the hideous,bolbus face in LOTR ROTK ("...the age of Man is over. The age of the orc has arrived" - I'm paraphrasing) is modelled on HW! 🤭 -x-

Another powerful reaction that was thoughtful&emotional... Kahla, get your box of tissues out again, cuz this will not be your last time to tear up; and we are all here to feel it again, with you! Thanx

Clutching your pearls? That almost made me fall on the floor laughing!

At the time that "the Hobbit" takes place, Sauron is still physically a disembodied Spirit, but growing slowly in power. Bilbo is far away from Sauron, so he cannot (yet) sense the ring being worn. (Plus Bilbo is Deep underground) Sauron spent 3000 years as a virtually powerless spirit, one without any real power, but had recently became stronger, enough to summon the 9 and to manifest in this world as a darkened shape. With the Nine he grows more rapidly, thanks to their rings aiding his growth. But he is still not strong enough to project his knowledge far from his Lair. Hence, through the story of the Hobbit he cannot sense Bilbo wearing the ring. Afterwards Gandalf warns Bilbo that ANY magic ring is risky, so Bilbo rarely uses it... unless the Sackville-Bagginses come a visiting! (Which doesn't happen a lot.) In LOTR, the One Ring hears its master calling for it, and allows Bilbo to pass it to another, one it hopes will use it. I think, but do not know for sure that when Gandalf touched the Ring in Felloweship , the touch of a powerful wizard awoke it and it stole a little of Gandal's power to call to its Master. Hence the Sudden Eye vision that Gandalf had. (Gandalf is a Maiar Spirit, who appears to be human, just as Sauron is also a Maiar, one who can shapeshift - in the past he has appeared as an Elf a Human and a Vampire.

These movies get criticized for having a lot of non-canon filler that Peter Jackson made up - especially the 2nd and 3rd movies. But something I realized is that the scenes featuring Bilbo are pretty faithful to the book. The book is about 95% “limited omniscient” 3rd person following Bilbo closely. If there were a “Bilbo Cut” with just the scenes featuring Martin Freeman, that would be a faithful adaptation and really would tell the whole story (with the exception of one key scene in the book when Bilbo was elsewhere). It’s like Jackson DID make a faithful adaptation … and then added about 4 more hours of filler.

@RickOConnell327

11 күн бұрын

yeav, everything that was in the book was in the movies pretty much; i wonder if you could cram all the 'faithful' bits together to make one movie or if it would be too long...

@Big_Tex

11 күн бұрын

@@RickOConnell327 I think you’d need 2 movies. You could practically do that now by merging movies 2 and 3 and cutting the fat

@ink-cow

11 күн бұрын

I'd love to see that book edit of the film.

@sarahg6932

10 күн бұрын

There's an edit out there called the M4 Book edit which cuts all three films down to one 4-hour film with an interval, it's very good!

@terrylandess6072

8 күн бұрын

I have The Cardinal Cut - it's 3 hours 48 minutes 23 seconds and pretty much what people might expect the book to cover as much as the available scenes will allow. You can find it quite easily.

Notice that Bilbo didn't see Sauron when he put on the Ring, whereas Frodo saw The Eye whenever he put it on. At that point, Sauron was at Dol Guldur not only weak, but surrounded on three sides with nearby Elven kingdoms - Mirkwood, Lothlorien, and Rivendell. He he at that point reached out with his mind to find the Ring, he was have been immediately perceived and sensed, and would have been swamped and destroyed by the existing armies of the Free Peoples. That's also why he feinted to Mordor when confronted, Dol Guldur was simply too vulnerable and hot to remain there.

Saruman was not on Sauron's side yet. But he had his own agenda. He wanted the One Ring and didn't want the others to interfere in his search for it.

Thank you Kahla! I’ll never understand why the eagles couldn’t bring them closer to their destination.

@ink-cow

11 күн бұрын

It's in the book. To save narrative time in the film, and probably to avoid seeming silly, we don't see the eagles speak. They are a kingdom and make it quite clear what they are and aren't willing to do. They're friends with Gandalf and generally agreeable to help out in some situations, but they are not horses, and will not put their own people at risk unnecessarily. They are actually displaying great courage and heroism when they show up in clutch, as they do at the Black Gate in Return of the King.

@Twigpi

9 күн бұрын

It's because men are often cruel and selfish and ignorant. A bird that big? They would climb over each other trying to take the shot that brings down such a magnificent beast and then claim glory, not even considering that it might have been sentient and speaking.

I enjoy your reaction so much. Someone else probably pointed this out, but the red-haired dwarf who asks “Does he offer us insult?” is Gimli’s father.

Just think if Bilbo had killed Smeagol when he had the chance. Frodo would put on that ring and no one there to bite his finger off.

Yes, goblins are a type of orc. Goblins are smaller, sneakier and more clever with their inventions; Orcs are bigger and stronger. i wouldnt want to meet either kind, really!

Fun fact, regarding your notion that there is a HOLE dragon ahead of them. Smaug, terrifying and large as he is, is actually tiny compared to the dragons that inhabited this world before. when you look at the terrifying beasts of the first age, this is just a baby.

From the book, and I think they did a good job: "He was desperate. He must get away, out of this horrible darkness, while he had any strength left. He must fight. 25:43 No, not a fair fight. He was invisible now. Gollum had no sword. Gollum had not actually threatened to kill him, or tried to yet. And he was miserable, alone, lost. A sudden understanding, a pity mixed with horror, welled up in Bilbo's heart: a glimpse of endless unmarked days without light or hope of betterment, hard stone, cold fish, sneaking and whispering. All these thoughts passed in a flash of a second. He trembled. And then quite suddenly in another flash, as if lifted by a new strength and resolve, he leaped." Although the movie didn't capture th religious bend to the books: when Bilbo has good luck it's God supporting his good decisions, which is why in LOTR Gandalf says Bilbo was meant to find the Ring.

Don't care what anybody says. I love this trilogy. The first two one at least!

I'd like to add after playing the Lord of the Rings Online I learned there are many different types of Giants, and well as Trolls, Dragons, etc. The game needed to expand some on the lore, but at least it's not completely random.

Great reaction. Thank you so much for sharing.

I've watched a LOT of reactions, yours are always one of my faves, because you GET IT. And you remember details from LOTR that come in handy here. You put 2 & 2 together like, "duh!" 😁 It's funny, I think watching these two trilogies in the order they were released is better than watching them chronologically. I think the call backs work better this way. ps: the series has many haters out there (mostly irrational), but Lord of The Rings; The Rings of Power on Amazon Prime is pretty amazing. Takes place in the Second Age... before the Ring was even made. Visually breathtaking. It's not 100 canon, and they made a bunch of stuff up. But the basics are there. If you're not a purist, you might enjoy it. Season 2 premiers in august i think.

Peter Jackson told the art guys to redraw the Wargs because he wasn't satisfied about them in Lord Of The Rings. They didn;t look scary enough, they didn't look like wolves, more like oversized hyena's.

I am LOOOVING your reactions to the Tolkien world... You are my favorite... because you get it.... I get emotional at the same exact point you did and I watched these movies when they came out.... you are a kindred spirit and you just get it.... for example you understood they were talking about the king witch... I have seen a LOT of reactions to these movies and no one gets it.... that's why I think i my mind... this girl is from my tribe and she could be my friend!! Although Im all the way in Guatemala... but you have a friend here incase you travel here one day 😃👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

The extended editions for the first movie don’t add toooooo much, but I would say that for the second and third movies they add some useful scenes that get into stuff about one of the Dwarven Rings of Power which is really cool!

You are wrong; you ARE going to cry in this trilogy. You will have no choice!

I know a little bit of Elvish. Here's something you could use one day.... Gi melin (gee mel lean) which means I love you

This may not be the proper way to make a suggestion, but based on your observant reactions, I really think you should watch Pan's Labyrinth by Guillermo del Toro. It is a masterful movie that can be interpreted in different ways, and it would be interesting to see what you make of it. But note, that it only comes as a Spanish language version with subtitles, as del Toro felt that otherwise its authenticity would suffer.

Acctually i like The Hobbit movies. The second one is the best one! And this new music is great too. The goblins looks kinda bad, they looked better in LOTR.

I'm a big fan of this return to Middle Earth. A lot of people will complain about some of the changes, but I was never not invested. And half of the "new" content that may not be in the original book, did take place at this time, because the RotK Appendices give us those details. I must also say that, if you can figure out how to watch it, the extended version of the third movie elevates it from 'just good" to "just amazing." I hope you are able to see it that way.

do Kahla have "Hobbit Courage" ? 😆

This didn't need to be 3 movies. It's a short book, too much "filler" material was added and that made me like it less

@cranberrybe

8 күн бұрын

i blame the studios that wanted a trilogy like the LOTR but there is not enough material in a children's book for it. i don't know what Peter is up to at the moment if i believe the rumors but i hope it's not an even bigger let down. still, it's nice to be back in Middle Earth.

I personally dislike The Hobbit trilogy very much, mostly due to the huge amount of filler scenes and total disregards to any laws of physics. At least a couple of them if not all of them should have died in the Goblin scenes. But I will say Martin Freeman is a great casting choise for this role. Almost all of the scenes with Bilbo are great, especially the riddle scene with Gollum. There are a few other good scenes but they get overrun by all the other stuff😅

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@kahlareacts

7 күн бұрын

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She so fine