Penn State builds a football stadium for 106,500 fans. Pitt builds hospitals for people in Appalachia

@phixxxer11

2 ай бұрын

Values are messed up when we value a football coach over people's well being. Value Pitt's priorities and fundamental values.

Thanks for reuploading this. Clarity is king.

Excellent and may I say, amazing. The truth is all they have, and thank God for it!

This documentary got a few things wrong, but either way it leads to the same end result... Joe being villified unfairly. He did in fact now about this incident when it occurred. Exact details were fuzzy, he only heard there were "innapropriate actions". He did indeed notify the authorities (i.e. cops) about it, as well as all of his superiors, including the (then) university president. And ran Sandusky out of Happy Valley. He not only wasn't obligated to do any more, it would have been going over other people's heads and opening himself up to possible lawsuits later on... if the info. he got was found to have no legs after "due process" (something that was never allowed to come to fruition in this case), he could open himself up to slander & perjury charges if he starts running his mouth about it publicly. So at that point it was out of his hands. This man was the perfect scapegoat. So many people wanted him, even PSU's own president and board loathed him and wanted him out since 2004. Other universities and their alum were jealous of PSU's squeaky clean image on and off the field, and clean program and the whole "success with honor" thing. So they were quick to circle like vultures and pick his bones dry the first chance they got. While meanwhile the guy who actually, supposedly, committed the crimes was hardly ever mentioned the entire time. He could walk down the streets of St. College, PA without having a soul approach him. Talk about a total sham. My opinion is that this thing goes much deeper than even Sandusky and The Second Mile program... to a pedophile ring being run for the rich/DC crowd that much has come out about in recent years (just not in the mainstream media). Joe was a sacrificial lamb to protect people waaaay up the totem pole. A great man was completely drug through the mud to protect the biggest scum on this Earth. And it was hardly the first, nor last time it will happen.

@mikeholley5662

2 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right about the pedo ring. It's massive, and it pervades institutions in this country. Good comment.

@Grande79

11 ай бұрын

He was a POS, he put the school and his legacy above the safety and well being of his players. Human garbage

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

You’re disgusting

Espn makes me sick

@jordan-xe2yb

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, the moral high horses and the crying. Awful.

Wowwwwww very interesting documentary!!!! I was too young to understand this all at the time but so fascinating looking back👍🏻👍🏻

At about 27 minutes into this video, the interviewee discusses how we are in danger of losing Due Process. If we allow Media decisions & opinions to count as Due Process, then we would lose that fundamental right of Due Process. We are in big trouble.

@michaelsimons340

5 жыл бұрын

To Judy Young J. Zeigler continues ad infinitum beating on the proverbial dead horse -- over and over and over again. The reason? Because he refuses to acknowledge the central issue re the whole Penn State calamity. Joe Paterno’s action in Shower 2001 was ethically and legally the absolute wrong reaction! And his legacy will never be restored to its rightful place in history until the following is found acceptable by everyone. Why was his behavior so wrong? It's like this: Call it “fondling,” “touching,” “caressing,” or “horseplay,” a naked male adult with a naked minor in a closed private gymnasium at a major university on a Friday night constitutes reasonable doubt, a legalized suspicion as to the appropriateness of that adult’s behavior. A 911 call is mandated here legally and ethically -- immediately without hesitation. Period! You always let the policing experts take over and investigate the legality or illegality of a scene of alleged rape -- immediately without hesitation. Period! Paterno and McQueary’s transgression was instantaneously making invisible, obscure, and insignificant a little boy suspected to be in immediate danger by replacing his image, instantaneously, with the image of Jerry Sandusky. Had that adult in Shower 2001 been a stranger (or one of JoePa’s grandsons), JoePa’s legacy today would be untouched! Why the cover up? Because McQueary, his father, Dr. Dranov, and Paterno all had a many years acquaintance with Jerry Sandusky and because of this familiarity, they all feared for the reputation of Penn State and its football team! For Shame!

@michaelsimons340

4 жыл бұрын

@Colin White -- Thanks for your question. Had I been McQueary and observed what I thought to be a sexual assault upon a child, I would have immediately dialed 911! In a situation like that you always let a professional investigative authority take over. Had that simple, logical approach been taken, the Penn State calamity would never have transpired!!!!

I mean I always knew the media was bias, but after being a freshman during this entire thing I was just so disgusted and shocked by how biased and evil the media really was... still disgusts me to this day.

@KNR6292

Ай бұрын

ESPN: JoePa din do nuffin. He filed a report, thats good 'nuff for me. Also ESPN: Mike Leach is a sadist who locks players in sweltering supply closests because thats how he gets his kicks!! And Craig James is a saint, the most honest and dependable guy since Abe!

Being a Nebraska alum, it's been really easy to jump on the "Hate Joe Pa" bandwagon for 5 years. (Especially after NU got screwed in the '82 game, Spanier as NU Chancellor screwed up the planned succession of Tom Osborne to AD, and we now have to PLAY PSU nearly every year in Big 10 games !) But I've seen this documentary after watching John Z. on Glenn Beck for 3 hours this AM and am completely turned around. I hope the REAL truth CAN be found. One Q though: what was the real motive for Mike McQueary's story alleging more happening than actually did ? What and who were behind the apparent "Let's GET Joe Pa ! campaign ? Didn't he do ENOUGH already for Penn State? He DID have a lot of power - was THAT all it was, a power struggle? And Mike M. was their pawn?

@talktozig

7 жыл бұрын

burlingtonbill1 thanks for seeing the truth!

I forgot to add that we Americans have become very blind and shallow. We call "good" what is evil, and sometimes evil "good." If you believe in God please take a minute to pray at home, not only for Joe but for our whole society. We need help and prayers do help.

Listen to what Franco said. "We can't lose due process". Stop debating who knew what, and worry about how the press can manipulate things to their financial advantage!

@talktozig

7 жыл бұрын

Well said Chris!

@chrissnyder3430

7 жыл бұрын

+John Ziegler Thank you John. My faith in humanity is Damn near gone. I'm amazed at the stupidity of most and how easily manipulated they can be. Keep doing what you do. I for one, appreciate it!

@talktozig

7 жыл бұрын

+Chris Snyder I'm right there with you

@chrissnyder3430

7 жыл бұрын

John Ziegler I won't talk your ear off John but you should see me yelling with you on your show Sunday nights! Lol I try to get anyone I can to listen to you and Leah because I know you call B.S. when you see it! Thank you and don't stop!

@lesternapoleongreen7543

7 жыл бұрын

You mean like how Penn State manipulated things and covered up raping to protect THEIR brand?

First and foremost, let it be known I'm a Notre Dame football fan, and I LOVE FOOTBALL. I have had always had a great deal of respect for Coach Joe, I also like Coach Joe coach football. I'm also guilty of jumping to conclusions and finding PSU/ Coach Joe guilty because the court of public opinion. With that being said, I'm so ashamed for my actions and my fellow man the way we let the media highjack this story and ruin a great man, mentor, friend, father, and most importantly COACH. I'I m so outraged and feel sick that I was apart of this witch hunt. I'm so so so so sorry, to Coach and his family, to PSU students and alumni. I have prayed for forgiveness and I promise you I will fight with PSU to help restore Coach's reputation. I have been posting all of John's video to my blogs and will talk about it with coworkers, friends, and family. Thank You John Ziegler, I give you my word I will fight along side PSU for Coach Joe!!!!

@williampavichevich306

6 жыл бұрын

Dustin Boston Sorry, but 2 Birds of a feather, flock together. You can be my guest and DEFEND an Institution whom allowed 1 Man to be Bigger than Life and bigger than Jesus Christ himself and DEFEND Child Rape, All you wish. Truth is, PENN St is fortunate to even have a Football Program after All was said and done. Ziegler is 1 sick man and He nor his Propaganda Video deserves any agreement nor to be taken seriously. Appalling and disgusting. And why am I not surprised to see a Sick NOTRE DAME person Defending Ped St and Joe Pa when NOTRE DAME had that Dunbar lady seducing and raping half of Not most of the Irish football team. Not worth DEFENDING this 💩

@TL2354

7 ай бұрын

How do you that Paterno was a great man?

i wish he had done more...actually wish he did something besides help cover it up

@psusportsdailyweare2071

8 жыл бұрын

He did what he was supposed to do. He told the board of trustees and they didn't do anything

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

How about tell the police psusports daily we are.

@andycouncil5470

6 жыл бұрын

psusportsdaily We Are! You are really S I C K. Please get help. The defense of this man is the closest thing my generation has seen to the Third Reich. Your mentality is so disturbing and scary. God help our children with people like you in this world.

There should be laws about how the media gets their information and reports it...The first broadcast that spewed the lie should be reprimanded.

@thunberbolttwo3953

6 жыл бұрын

Yes how dare the media tell the truth.

@andycouncil5470

6 жыл бұрын

I'd settle for reprimanding a serial child rapist (known since 1976).

I WAS as die hard a penn state as there was this all ended when this was allowed to happen

@VladTheImpalerTepesIII

8 жыл бұрын

That's because you are a sheep and a fool.

@Salvatore1268

8 жыл бұрын

NunOfYourBiz ok u said I was a sheep and fool for saying I am no longer a penn state repeat I am no longer a penn state fan

@TV-ob1if

Жыл бұрын

There are plenty of people like you who didn’t get all the facts that jumped ship.

John, thank you for standing up for what is right and using your platform and intelligence to inform people about what really happened in the “penn state scandal”. Thank you for risking your career to defend a remarkable human being in Joe Paterno. I have no doubt that the world will one day realize the tragedy and rush to judgement that took place. Once again, thank you.

i love Franco Harris' loyalty

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Dante and wisdom

@TV-ob1if

Жыл бұрын

Loyalty goes only so far. What makes Franco special is his ethics and integrity and willingness to learn everything about the situation

@Miguel195211

Жыл бұрын

You mean Franco’s blind loyalty!

As soon as Sandusky’s lawyer came on it’s time to shut this garbage off. Paterno got what he deserved. This was going on under his chin since 1976.

@brucehoffman2811

4 ай бұрын

I can’t really believe what I’m watching. As they say McQuery saw some “horsing around,” they show that Paterno admitted he said he witnessed “sexual acts.” This is just so stupid and ridiculous

To Grumpy Old Man John Doe The accepted dictionary synonyms for "John Doe" include: "everyman, little guy, little man, lug, slob"! John Doe, unless you have an objection, those lables definitely fit your persona! Smile.

"I would have said that Jerry was in there in very close proximity to a boy with his arms wrapped around him. I said I heard slapping sounds. I described it was extremely sexual and that some kind of intercourse was going on," he said. McQueary is now being cross-examined by defense attorneys. "There's no question in my mind that I conveyed to them that I saw Jerry in the showers and that it was severe sexual acts and that it was wrong and over the line," he said.

Was it just me or was that one guy standing by Sandusky? I could have swore he was saying he doesn’t believe the victims. Joe might of done great things but knowing something went down with an elder man and a child and I don’t care what it was the whistle should have been blown and the situation investigated with the police not swept under the rug which they did.

Hi

Well if you see it on Network TV News then it Must Be True!

I don't know what I believe but Ziegler yelling all the time is annoying

Well Joe Paterno just got his wins back....now ...anybody who wrote horrible things may now apologize ....

@GentlemanJack295

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe when the kids get their lives back. 409 is all you see, what's a child compared to victory?

Success with Honor. We Are Penn State! Coach Paterno was the greatest football coach in history and an even better human being. Mindless fact less sheeple on the internet let their thoughts form from someone else. Funny how the court of public opinion is always wrong.

@carolinagonzalezs.

4 жыл бұрын

Media is liar by nature. I don't believe them.

With apologies to Ludacris: "My coach bad, my coach hood. My coach turned a blind eye like I knew he would..."

How’s the clearing Sanduskys name going John Ziegler just asking because by now he should be released from prison by now right. Hmmmmm that’s interesting.

Half my family are Wolverines and half are Spartans. BIG 10 LOVE. Joe P. was a good man. There should be many memorials to him.

@jaredthegamer369

3 жыл бұрын

Why, because he was good at coaching a child’s game?

@redefv

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaredthegamer369 passive aggressive behind a keyboard. Nice!

Yup. One of the biggest wrongful cancelations of all time.

Joe Paterno hung on for too long. There is no way an 80+ year old man can have a firm handle on a major college football program. I feel sorry for Joe and his family but he shot himself in the foot by simply not retiring after 1994. He had nothing more to prove, so indirectly, he is responsible. He reminded of Ronald Reagan towards the end of his tenure.

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

But there is no proof he knew anything at all. That's what no one gets. Show me proof that he knew anything was going on.

@CarmieSchulz

9 жыл бұрын

Mark, I agree with you about him not knowing. Joe Paterno was fundamentally a good man that just couldn't let go. He was totally out of it the last 15 years or so. He reminded me of Ronald Reagan towards the end, totally unaware of the rats that crept in.

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

Dan Michaels I agree with that. I also just think he really didn't know that Sandusky had done anything. McQuary { II think thats his name} really didn't know exactly what he saw. I think his statement was that he saw Sandusky and a boy horsing around in the showers and it made him uneasy. i don't think he told Paterno at all that it was anything sexual in nature. Joe said he seemd very upset and could barely get anything out and Joe said "you dont have to tell me, I'll put you in touch with people you feel you can tell". I just don't get where everyone says says Paterno knew more then was saying. Show me the proof about that

@VladTheImpalerTepesIII

8 жыл бұрын

So because Paterno refused to retire that makes him guilty of something?

@CarmieSchulz

8 жыл бұрын

NunOfYourBiz Oh no, not directly. But indirectly, yes. I don't wish any ill will for him or his family. Honestly.

5:55 "I had never felt that rage and anger ever before". Seriously? You felt more rage over the fact that Paterno got fired than the fact that many children went through something as horrible as they did? This is the type of stuff people are talking about when they say that Penn State cared more about football than saving children.

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

And really, you can proof that Joe knew anything? You can't because there is no proof that he knew anything was going on. it's also true that a number of the victims lied about Sandusky

@jeremyjohnson376

9 жыл бұрын

Mark W www.nydailynews.com/news/national/joe-paterno-influenced-penn-state-officials-quiet-jerry-sandusky-emails-reveal-article-1.1105285 You guys depending this shit is ridiculous... what if that was your child?

@APSULeit

8 жыл бұрын

+Jeremy Johnson Do you know what happens if you accuse someone of rape? Their lives get turned upside down even if down the road they are found innocent. Did it ever occur, even though Joe didn't really like Jerry, that because Mike was so vague with what he saw in the shower(vague enough that jerry was found not guilty on that charge. Not to mention they actually found the kid from the shower incident and he testified that nothing wrong happened) that Joe didn't wanna ruin someone's life until they were sure it needed to be taken this far. Which after being found not guilty, the appropriate actions were taken.

@andycouncil5470

6 жыл бұрын

Vlad The Impaler Țepeș III People like you are the reason rape victims live in misery, don't come forward and often take their own lives. Good job, you are really adding value to our society. Btw, if someone jacked my childhood, I can't promise I'd be nice. I'd probably do and say whatever I needed to get the man behind bars so he couldn't keep raping kids. WHENEVER a high profile serial childmolester gets caught, people will try to exploit the situation. They are bad, but that doesn't make the molester good.

@andycouncil5470

6 жыл бұрын

Mark W Mark, Mark, Mark... If you read more you will improve your grammar and you may even learn about the overwhelming evidence in this case. As a result, people will take you more seriously and you will have an educated opinion. I hope this helps.

I mean the whole thing is, Joe Pa reported it to his superiors, and its crazy because people say he was Penn State and had more power than the damn governor of Pennsylvania, but then people don't understand this fact, that Joe was told by lawyers and it is a fact, that he reported it, and because of legal reasons that actually he did his obligation and was advised to let the University heads which Joe trusted to do the right thing take care of it!!! Joe was thrown under the bus, and he was guilty of one thing, he trusted his superiors to do the right thing, and they tried to cover it up, because of all the damn money 💰 pumping through the football program!!! Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, and Shultz didn't want to do the right and moral thing, which is disgusting!!! The old saying, don't kill the golden goose!!! Pathetic

Joe himself said he didn't do enough so just stop.

So what about the penn state serial rapist in the 1970s that nothing got done while he was around coaching! Yes he did get convicted but it was covered up and did not get arrested while he was a player at penn state

Having read the depositions and testimony in this case, the stipulated facts seem to be the following. 1. McQueary told Paterno about an incident he witnessed in the shower over a week after he witnessed it. 2. Paterno reported the incident to his immediate superiors in the athletic department. 3. An email revealed that Paterno was uneasy about a certain course of action being taken regarding the revelation of the information. The third part, which is inconclusive, is the most damning. It implies that Paterno may have indeed helped to quell a movement towards unmasking this behavior. That said, there is no conclusive evidence to prove that he did. It is impossible to absolve Paterno of wrongdoing, particularly because there are pieces of evidence which suggest he may have been complicit in a cover up, but it is similarly impossible to suggest that he was a major force in any wrongdoing. It is unknown what his exact part was. What can be concluded, and what was said by Paterno himself, is that he should have done more. He was clearly made aware that there was something going on with Sandusky, and he fulfilled only his basic obligations. It is unfair to say that others would have done differently, since the circumstances are not known.. It is similarly unfair to say that Paterno knew the full extend of the crimes since there is no evidence of that. It is not unfair, however, to say that he should have done more. He knew that something inappropriate was going on and he clearly did not exhaust all resources that he could have to remedy the situation. Ultimately, the biggest problem with Paterno was the legacy he allowed to build over his decades at Penn State. Paterno cast himself- or at the least allowed other to do so via proxy- as the bastion of morality in collegiate athletics for years. He therefore left himself open to criticism when he failed to live up to those standards. Paterno was in all likelihood a good guy, but that isn't the same as being the ideal moral standard. He conflated the two for years, and it was his ultimate downfall.

@GentlemanJack295

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas McGrath Well written. However, I believe McQueary told Paterno about the shower incident the next day after it happened. I think Joe passed the buck to his (in name only) superior and washed his hands of it with no follow up. You are also correct in that Paterno allowed the media and the PSU PR machine to make him much more as an image than he really was. I agree about the conflation and I would submit it was exacerbated by his staying way too long past his time as head coach.

@thomasmcgrath9395

8 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely right about the McQueary point, I was thinking about a different relay in the chain of information which took over a week. I also think you are right about Joe passing the buck, but I think he is in many ways too condemned for this. Obviously he should have done more, but I am not convinced he acted much differently than many others would have. Where I do have a problem, and where I think we have both noted his larger issues came from, was the cultish following he garnered. I think this began far before his overstay in the coaching position (although I am going off of things I have heard and read since I was not alive), and unfortunately has maintained after this all happened. What disappoints me most in Penn State fans is not their willingness to defend Paterno in general, but the effort with which they have put into it. I don't think taking away his wins was the right thing to do (it doesn't change the outcome of the games), but there is something spine tingling about the movement to resurrect all of these accomplishments. I was hopeful that Penn State would use this to be better moving forward, but it instead seems to have motivated them to try to rekindle the past with ignorance towards the crimes. Sure, one can appreciate Joe Paterno's accomplishments, but the atrocities that happened under his watch are also inextricable from his legacy. I'm worried that the university (and I mostly mean the students and alumni) has already begun to rewrite history in order to embrace the football program's accomplishments, while glossing over what the implications of those ended up being on the community.

@GentlemanJack295

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas McGrath The cult of Paterno is fascinating to me and why I have followed this since day one. There are many within the JoeBot camp that insist Sandusky was innocent and that the victims are all liars. It's incredible. So many of these fans imbued Joe's false image into their own lives that they cannot admit he did anything wrong. The resulting look in the mirror is too much for them to bear. Classic cult behavior. I will tell you this too. If you publicly criticize them, Joe or PSU they will stalk you. It's pretty funny albeit a bit creepy. As one commentator said, "Joe may get his wins back, but he doesn't get to be a hero anymore." Of course what really gets lost in the defense of Joe is the kids who suffered. The constant defense of Joe who clearly did not do enough makes it even more dangerous for kids. I hope that lesson is learned at least.

@APSULeit

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas McGrath what atrocities happened under paterno's watch? For one Sandusky was no longer a coach in 2001. The university allowed him to use the facilities as part of his retirement which is well documented that Paterno was not happy about. Furthermore Sandusky was aquitted of all charges stemming from the 2001 shower incident(only alleged crime on PSU property) not only because of the lack of information Mike provided but because they found the kid and he testified that nothing inappropriate happened. So anything that Jerry was found guilty on, had nothing to do with Joe's watch. Lets blame the actual wrongdoer please and that's Jerry not Joe.

@GentlemanJack295

8 жыл бұрын

+Andy L Sandusky's predations did not start in 2001. Paterno signed off on Sandusky's retirement. Sandusky was convicted of 4 out of 5 charges regarding the 2001 shower incident and another victim was assaulted 6 months later on PSU campus. They did not ever find the victim of Jerry in the shower for sure and he never testified in court. Jerry did it but Joe knew in 01 and could have stopped it.

He knew about since 1976

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

richard ray archuleta uh, if you knew anything about that story, or seen the sealed documents as I have, you would know that story is a joke. His own lawyer discredited it before he knew the 1976 story would become public. Please use your brain.

It’s all water under the bridge.

No such thing as "Child Sex". It is rape or abuse.The child sex term is disgusting. This c ase was a horrible indictment on media.

Awesome, I love comedies

Sorry man you lost me at 1:11 your literally defending Sandusky now?? This is what happens when we build statues and worship people while theyre still alive...people want to ignore JPs complacency because he's a hero to them...

@talktozig

5 жыл бұрын

Kyle Willard dude, I hate Penn State, but it turns out Sandusky was innocent and it wasn't even close. People like you wit this "you aren't even allowed to defend Sandusky" BS is exactly why this whole injustice was allowed to happen. You virtue signalers should be ashamed of yourselves

@TexMex420

5 жыл бұрын

@@talktozig he's innocent? So your saying he never had sex with an underage boy? Ever?

The people making the negative comments have a very bad sense of grammar, they sound like elementary school students. This leads me to believe your probably very uneducated, leading to the conclusion on why you speak with such ignorance that is no longer tolerated in todays society. If you want to post an opinion based comment at least sound like a professional and people might listen, other wise keep your opinions to yourself. WE ARE PENN STATE and your ignorance will not bring us down, but instead bring us closer as a whole. The greatest part is most of you have no relative relation to the situation or even understand the impact this has had on ME and past/present alumni!!! You comments are disrespectful and in order to make a reasonable comment, make the comment based on factual statements rather than your own ignorance.

@ldchappell1

9 жыл бұрын

Blow it out your ass. By the way "This leads me to believe your probably very uneducated." is HORRIBLE grammar. "Your" is possessive. You mean "you're" probably uneducated. Very uneducated is redundant.

@codyshomper4180

9 жыл бұрын

Listen pal if you're ever in state college look me up!!! I'd be happy to show you around :) If you would like to eat out of a straw too, that can be arranged! Word of advise choose your battles wisely sweetheart.

@ldchappell1

9 жыл бұрын

Cody MUD MAN Typical campus blowhard resorting to impotent threats of violence. That type of attitude only underscores what's wrong with Penn State.. I have no reason to visit Penn State. I already received my college degree 40 years ago from Berkeley.. By the way, "otherwise" is one word, not two. = )

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

ldchappell1 So you think Joe knew what was going on? Show me proof he did. The only thing you got was thast guy telling Joe he saw something, but he never actually said what he saw. Please show me proof that Joe knew what was going on

@codyshomper4180

9 жыл бұрын

ldchappell1 409 enough said......By the way, I didn't know they offered free wifi at the retirement home. Not only can't you drive, but now you resort to the internet as a way to express your ignorance. NO ONE wants to hear it old timer.

Looks are deceiving. An innocent soaping turned into lies! Dirty minded people!

Ziegler, the fact is that standusky in a shower with a pre-pubecent male would immediately sound warnings regardless of what was going on. I say to you buddy, if you had a child in a facility and that child was found in a compromising position with a person in authority, and it was made known to the facilities overseer, and that overseer did nothing, would you make a documentary, in don't think so.

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

Jeff Vader you have no idea what you are talking about.

@grant575mixmaster

6 жыл бұрын

I know a pervert when I see one, you, penn state and paterno obviously don't

John Ziegler is a HERO in no uncertain terms. IMO Mr. Sandusky should be given a new trial.

he didn't see anything to set off a five alarm fire? really? you guys are arguing the semantics of what he saw? Sandusky was with a boy in a shower, doing something completely wrong. the loyalty to an organization over the truth is really sad to see. Joe Paterno definitely was caught up in the middle of this, and was used as a scape goat, but he did say right in the script that it was definitely of a sexual nature. That right there is that starting/finish line. At that point, if you associate with that man again, it is clearly your choice to associate with a child rapist/pedophile.

@clarencebirdseye8339

9 жыл бұрын

Cynthia Gerardi You're obviously unaware that the boy in the shower said nothing happened and Sandusky was acquitted on that charge.

@teachone2261

6 жыл бұрын

A MEDIA ZOMBIE !! HEY ZOMBIE COME UP WITH SOME HARD CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE --NOT WHAT THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA TOLD YOU !! PRESENT THAT HERE --LISTEN CAREFULLY TO THE REALITY OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND UNPLUG THE CABLE TV NEEDLE FROM YOUR ARM --SINCE YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT THE MAINSTREAM DESPERATE INTERNET WHIPPED MAINSTREAM SEWERPIPE CALLED THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TOLD YOU !! AND YOU BELIEVE IT RATHER THAN THOSE WHO WERE INVOLVED ?????? ANOTHER KNUCKLEHEAD !

LOL How can you frame someone who was never charged with a crime?

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

Lou Palumbo as I have said a zillion times, framing is figurative, not literal.

@GentlemanJack295

4 жыл бұрын

@@talktozig And untrue. Joe was not framed. He failed.

@jordan-xe2yb

2 жыл бұрын

Tennessee: nope.

The only possible explanation that could exonerate JoePa is that he was so senile during his final years at Penn St that he had no clue what was going on around him. If you truly believe that Joe Pa was unaware of everything that was going down, and that he was not senile, then he must have had an IQ of 60.

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

And show me proof that Paterno knew anything was going on. Your a POS to jump to conclusions. Please show me any proof that Joe knew what was happening

lived as a coward and died as a coward but hey he won some football games thats all that matters at penn state

@markw6676

9 жыл бұрын

Show me proof that Joe knew anything? You can't because there isn't any proof. Your a POS jumping to conclusions when you cant prove anything

@greengorilla6699

5 жыл бұрын

Daniel is a loser

@yahboymilk4032

5 жыл бұрын

@dave4248 "ran a squeaky clean program" YIKES

Coach knew what was going , turned a blind eye to it, sorry paturno fans

@kevinchandler179

5 ай бұрын

How do you know that personally? I mean, Sandusky is a scumbag and should have been given the death penalty, but the thing that was so weird was they tried to make Joe Pa take the fall, after he reported it and followed up on it? That is all I am saying, but it is a horrible shame and I pray 🙏 for the kids!!! WE ARE

KD, Paterno let it happen.

Joe knew about about his friend since 1976! Oops. Someone needs to re-do their failed pro-JoePa "movie".

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Rodriguez if you had a clue you would know that the 1976 accuser is a total fraud whose own lawyer doesn't believe him.

@ricardorodriguez5215

6 жыл бұрын

John Ziegler But it's still in the recently disclosed documents, correct? Oh, and that little golden nugget made it into HBO's soon to be award winning movie Paterno. So like I said....oops.

@talktozig

6 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Rodriguez so you are a moron. Got it

@ricardorodriguez5215

6 жыл бұрын

John Ziegler Awww, the high road. #JoePaKnew

@JohnDoe-gk7ok

5 жыл бұрын

Ricardo Rodriguez So because it’s in a movie, it’s got to be true?

If you STILL root for Penn State football and support Joe Paterno, i hope your realize that an athletic program is YOUR GOD. Go root for Pitt or Syracuse ... If something like this ever came out about Alabama i'd never support the program and hope they would shut it down. Penn State football will be forever remembered for this incident, and those kids and their families have to be reminded of those sickos every time they come across the logo. Y'all were overrated as hell anyway. How many rings he get like 2? in 100 years of coaching or some shit? Weak.

@batm52

10 жыл бұрын

You seem to forget that Jerry Sandusky did those terrible things, not Penn State and not their football team. Do some research and come up with your own conclusions. When I say research, I mean read. Don't believe eveything see in the media.

@maxcooz9777

10 жыл бұрын

your opinions are formed because of one sick man from an exceptional community. fuck off. I feel terrible for the victims, penn state, and joe paterno. RIP.