I'm not entirely sure but I believe they both "offered a draw"

@AgentChiliFri

2 жыл бұрын

well idk though cause eric thought he offered a draw and Hikaru doesn't care so who knows really

@zhraaashraf3131

2 жыл бұрын

Hikaru offered a draw at first but Eric didn't see it as he was concentrating on the game but then he offered him a draw and hikaru as well didn't see it lol and then Eric won by timeout and Hikaru thought he was flagging him and it was a drawn position that's why he was annoyed but of course he 'doesn't care'

@samratraj7030

2 жыл бұрын

@@zhraaashraf3131 Except Eric offered the draw first. Hikaru literally says that in the video.

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

@@samratraj7030 Yeah I think Eric offered first. They both offered and both were pre-moving so they missed accepting.

@kantan5029

2 жыл бұрын

one thing I know for sure, Hikaru doesn't care

I think Hikaru says he doesn't care when he cares the most.

@haydenhuber4119

2 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't. Did you not hear how many times he said he didn't care?

@iguoyrxayananikihs9505

2 жыл бұрын

Hikaru literally does not care tho. He does not care

@ashutoshpatkar4891

2 жыл бұрын

He said he literally doesn't care why can't you understand he does not care at all

@francescobruno418

2 жыл бұрын

When people finally gonna realise he doesn't care 😬

@motionpotionsauce

2 жыл бұрын

normally id agree with the original post, but hikaru DID say he DIDNT care.... not sure whom to believe

He didn't care so much that he had to mention it 20 times

@shashankkr1008

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@petrilampilahti5176

2 жыл бұрын

yep 😂

@zedd0462

2 жыл бұрын

because chat keeps mentionning it , so he replies.

@petrilampilahti5176

2 жыл бұрын

@@zedd0462 shall we here continue the questioning did he really offer a draw or not?

@ballskin

2 жыл бұрын

@@zedd0462 no

Me, an empath, sensing that Hikaru might actually care

@brimmed

2 жыл бұрын

i'm not much of an empath and even i can see that he cares

@harrisonsherwood4028

2 жыл бұрын

did you not hear him say that he actually doesn’t care?

@dalkap

2 жыл бұрын

@@brimmedI always click on comments like these because I know there's gonna be a guy that kills the joke for no reason and I find it brilliant

How much he cares is directly proportional to the number of times he says "I dont care" 😂

@hurmuzi1545

2 жыл бұрын

its also proportional to your like ratio

@ME0WMERE

2 жыл бұрын

@DarkneBs You’re like a circle. All edge and no point.

@KinzeHansebyner

2 жыл бұрын

@@hurmuzi1545 Hurry on Twitch, I believe Hikaru is streaming, you might still be able to catch his feces if you open your mouth wide enough.

@adarsh4352

2 жыл бұрын

@@ME0WMERE that doesn't make sense tho lol

@adarsh4352

2 жыл бұрын

@Discord Account Circles have zero edges. Edges are sets of points that are colinear. There are no sets of three or more points on a circle that are colinear. A circle is all points in the same plane that lie at an equal distance from a center point.

The sheer salt and anger

@francescobruno418

2 жыл бұрын

OMG here we go again

@redandblue1013

2 жыл бұрын

@@francescobruno418 you gonna say he literally doesn’t care? Lol He’s genuinely pissed make no mistake. At least if not now then he is in the hundreds of other clips like this. Very petty, and childish if you ask me

@francescobruno418

2 жыл бұрын

@@redandblue1013 ain't gonna read this bro 💀

@khalil6612

2 жыл бұрын

@@francescobruno418 good, his grammar is proper ass.

@Ism0Lait3la

2 жыл бұрын

@@redandblue1013 yea, oh how rude, offensive and terrible from him to state that he doesnt care. Just a bad person clearly

did he mention that he doesn’t care?

@ianmcgregor349

2 жыл бұрын

I think he started to, and then lost his train of thought

@alekhinesgun9997

2 жыл бұрын

Not too certain he did, his thoughts still remain unclear

Hikaru : i really dont care ( loses on time) Eric : but i offered a draw though

Hikaru offered a draw and Eric also offered a draw , they both didn't notice the offer immediately as they were concentrating on the board albeit low on time , it's just a slight misunderstanding by both sides.

@austenblumkaitis9024

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. Everybody accuses everyone for no reason

@ianmcgregor349

2 жыл бұрын

@derek He literally doesn’t care

@jimskea224

2 жыл бұрын

Hikaru's slight misunderstandings seem to regularly be a whole lot bigger than other people's.

@MrDane59

2 жыл бұрын

@derek you clearly missed the point while searching for a reason to hate Eric offered a draw to hikaru, hikarus premove denied the draw, then he offered one on his own He is not saying 'FlAgInG iS bAd SpOrTsMeNt ShIp' like you guys are implying. He said offering the draw and then one move later not accepting it back was rude. It was simple missunderstanding that could went unnoticed if not for guy like you :)

@apollojenkins4046

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDane59 U have it backwards. Hikaru offered first, Eric then offered and Hikaru (even though he was up on time) let his time run out because he was salty Eric was premoving and denied draw

I feel bad for Eric lol. It was not his fault at all but even he felt for a while it was..

@andresv.8880

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, neither player did anything just a misunderstanding. nothing happened out of this until the toxic Hikaru haters got involved blowing it out of proportion

@JohnDoe-dh8xc

2 жыл бұрын

@@andresv.8880 Honestly it’s worth it for the “literally don’t care” meme

I can't even understand a draw in bullet. I don't even have time to realise if am in a draw position before I run out of time

@guacaprole

2 жыл бұрын

Most people can't, but these guys are on another level as GMs.

@fahimhoq3166

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's because White can't checkmate with just a rook when 2pawns and a Knight are protecting the black king. Black can't also make progress as advancing the pawns would leave the Black King vulnerable against the White rook. So with perfect play, this is probably a drawn position.

@lightman9935

2 жыл бұрын

i mean its rook vs 2 pawns and knight which is usually drawn with perfect play

Hikaru is the one always playing on time even rook vs rook. He should stay quiet

@erne-7035

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree. He says in this video that in draws you dont flag, whereas he does it the most.

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

@@erne-7035 He meant in draw-offer situations, not drawn positions that it’s unsportsmanlike to then change to flagging. It’s common to flag in losing positions let alone drawn positions.

@phildo864

2 жыл бұрын

@@RMF49 I’m still unclear after your clarification. What is a draw offer situation? It sounds like you are saying it is okay to flag in any situation unless the opponent offers one a draw? For example, if they are going to lose on time even though they have a winning position, if they offer me a draw, then I should accept?

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

@@phildo864 No. Flagging in general is considered ok. Even flagging when you’re losing (called “dirty flagging”) is ok and Super GMs do it all the time. What’s bad is say you and I are in a drawn position and we are both low on time. I offer you a draw. You don’t see it and make a move. Then you see it and immediately offer a draw back. Now if I decline the draw and flag you that is bad sportsmanship because it means my original draw offer wasn’t sincere it was just made to distract you, disrupt your flow, and burn your clock. So the only time you are “required” to accept a draw is when you just offered a draw that was missed and a return draw was offered to you. That is a draw offer situation.

@phildo864

2 жыл бұрын

@@RMF49 I think I understand. However, how can a draw offer be insincere considering the opponent could take the offer and not miss it? My initial reaction is that I feel like one is not obligated to accept a draw offer even if they offered one first. I feel like a dirty draw offer meant to distract someone is when a person is in a completely loosing position and time and offers a draw just to distract the opponent.

Hikaru "lets fight eric while im drunk and pretend it was just a joke because he chocked me out" Nakamura tallk about sportsmanship... Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They're actually talking to each other, Hikaru is just ignoring Eric

@user-gt4cn2my5d

2 ай бұрын

Really?

But does he care tho?

Never heard "draw" so often in 50 sec. And also Hikaru doesn't care. He literally doesn't care. Really guys he doesn't care.

Here's a drinking game: take a shot every time Hikaru says he doesn't care

when you don't care so much, you need to remind this 20 times

Hikaru doesn't care with everything he's got. He gives him not caring 100 percent effort.

Hikaru has flagged Eric so many times, but if God FORBID if someone flags Hikaru....

Hikaru seems like he can be a really fun guy, but he has a dangerous ego to compensate for.

He offered a draw and i offered a draw and he offered draw. Key and peele are great in this scene.

I offered a draw, and then he offered a draw, which made me offer a draw, after which he offered a draw. By the way I offered a draw, and guess what? He offered a draw.

I met both Eric Hansen and Hikaru Nakamura in the 2018 chess Olympiads. I'm African, in my late thirties then hence one of the older players. They are both great and I'm a fan. However, I must say that GM Eric Hansen is an absolute gentleman. Absolute gentleman! That was my impression.

@teaganfrenkel9286

6 ай бұрын

that’s nice.

narrator: but hikaru, in fact, cared

This is comedy gold.

"I swear I dont care about it" "Papa its been 20 years please you have to get over it" (but seriously I think Hikaru saw that they both offered a draw)

So Hikaru became Chessbae and haunted Eric for the rest of his life!!

Hikaru: “I literally don’t care” *proceeds to care a whole lot*

I thought the Chessbrah fan base would be over this drama by now. Apparently not.

@Pedro-op6zj

2 жыл бұрын

They're like kids who discovered a new toy lmao

@campbellmcternan3902

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pedro-op6zj nah bro they're the kids that have been beating the same dead horse for the past year now

@DerickMasai

2 жыл бұрын

And what made you assume this was from Eric's fanbase chief? Other than, you know, childish bias.

@campbellmcternan3902

2 жыл бұрын

@@DerickMasai because these comments and this joke is a staple of the chessbrah community. In literally 2 minutes I found videos which highlight the difference: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lpWqw9Sle821dtY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5am1Y-xj86pops.html (I have left KZread links here, KZread mods/ the algorithm sometimes removes them from comments).Since the first video is literally from the Chessbrah channel we can be confident that these people are from his community, and if you compare comment sections the jokes, topics and anger are exactly the same, implying that the comments were written by the same fan base. The second video is from Hikarus channel, and it’s very clear that his own community doesn’t do this. We could go through many other channels and many other youtubers (such as Gotham or Agad) but most other creators and fan bases are fairly chill (with the exception of finegold). Was that enough to prove a lack of ‘childish bias’?

i've never heard the word draw so many times in my life

Hikaru complaining about bad sportsmanship is like a scammer complaining about getting too many scam calls like damn

Missunderstanding.

everyone has a hikaru story

He literally doesnt care 🥶

Hikaru is careless.

Classic Hikaru and Eric moment 🤣🤣ggs boys draw or not I literally don’t care or do i ???🤔🤔

Keep calm everybody! Hikaru didn't really care

He literaly didnt care

“I don’t care” _He cared_

Like kids. Just chill

Hikaru behaves like a kid xD

birth of a legendary meme

Both were low on time. When someone offers a draw and u play a move, the draw offer gets auto rejected. Because they were both low on time, they were both playing fast and accidentally kept declining draw offers. And at the end of the story, remember, hikaru didnt care😅😅

And now they don’t play each other publicly anymore

I mean is a game based on speed and skill but in the end time

Haha he said the word

the first time equals to the first 20 times

I think what he meant is He doesnt care about the -elo.

I don't get it. Does he care or not?

@nathanielhayden5919

2 жыл бұрын

He definitely does otherwise he would not say that he doesn't 20 times he just wanted to seem like he was on the right lol

@meliocurie1809

2 жыл бұрын

He does state that he literally doesn't care 20 times maybe that gives us a clue.

Plot twist : He actually cares

The flagger get mad when get flag. lol

Ok

"No, I want YOU to accept the draw. You will accept my offering of mercy". Like damn bro thats another level of ego

@vidul7498

2 жыл бұрын

thats a bit much he didnt accept it cause he already made the move so offer got cancelled

@phoenixav9550

2 жыл бұрын

@@vidul7498 yeah, if anything Hikaru should have either made a move or offered again. His mind just blanked and he blamed it on Eric.

@Justaplebxd1998

2 жыл бұрын

another idiot taking it out of context nice he we go again

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

Huh? You make zero sense.

He is so salty lmao. needs to grow up (i know this clip is old)

did anybody offer a draw?

ok

But I care

I really thought the source of this saying was something much more significant. This was an entertaining nothing burger.

Even with the clip people don't understand why he was salty, he had more time he could've flagged Eric if he wanted to but he stopped to let Eric accept the draw after they both offered one

@phoenixav9550

2 жыл бұрын

But Eric moved which automatically declines the draw.

@timmenhoff

10 ай бұрын

wrong. he was salty because he's a kid hahahaa

@andresv.8880

10 ай бұрын

@@timmenhoff I'm pretty sure you're a kid, not worthy of my time, bye bud ;)

I’m confused, did he offer him a draw?

reuploading that shit to revive the drama one year ago.. content starving drama andy kekw. xhessbrah got copystriked for showing hikaru in their videos so good luck.

Guys hikaru always repeats what he says like a thousand times. Don’t go off abt how much he cares coz he mentioned otherwise so much.

Ppl still dont understand what happened here. Eric offered draw. Hikaru noticed after moving and offered a draw on the next move. Being that Eric had offered a draw he SHOULD have been looking for the return draw offer to accept. This is NORMAL chess etiquette in bullet. But Eric offered then didn't look for return draw offer instead using it as a time burner (from Nakas perspective). It appears as tho Eric did th8s innocently but no way naka can know this.

@quantumzain

2 жыл бұрын

Lol "normal chess ettiquete". Yep the books talked exactly about this return draw in bullet games. This is a bullet game, do you seriously expect Eric to pause for his opponent with less than 5 seconds and risk losing on time anticipating a possible "return draw offer" while the opponent is scrambling pieces around trying to flag him? What happened in the game is totally normal and expected, happens a lot in high speed games but Hikaru was just very salty about it. That's all

@slothbearanonymous

2 жыл бұрын

@@quantumzain why did eric offer the draw? if you are right, then eric is offering the draw to troll hikaru. this is not the case.

@quantumzain

2 жыл бұрын

@@slothbearanonymous Eric offered a draw trying avoid this exact situation lol. Anyway, both players were very low on time so it's practically impossible to draw by agreement. Let's all remember this is a bullet game... Naka lost a bullet game and is salty about it, and blames Eric for poor sportsmanship. That's all fine, we can understand his emotional outbursts, but understand that ofcourse he's wrong abt it and Eric did nothing wrong

@slothbearanonymous

2 жыл бұрын

@@quantumzain so in your mind 1. bullet game 2. cant accept draw in last 5 seconds because game moves too quickly 3. eric offered a draw in last 5 seconds 4. eric offered a draw to avoid naka being annoyed is this what you think? because points 2 and 4 contredict each other. so which is false?

@quantumzain

2 жыл бұрын

@@slothbearanonymous neither. 4 is what he aimed for (I would also add out of respect) but 2 is the reality. Things like that happen in quick games. its ok we get salty then move one no point in defending him.

Anyone cant tell me what hikaru is saying? Cuz I cant understand. He himslef says Eric did offered a draw. So what does he want I didnt understand what's going on here

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

Eric offered a draw first. Hikaru had already pre-moved which auto-declines the draw offer. So Hikaru offered a draw back expecting Eric to accept. If both had enough time then Eric would have been looking for it and accepted. But being so low on time Eric also pre-moved. If Eric had deliberately offered a draw then reverted to flagging that would be bad sportsmanship and that is what Hikaru was complaining about. But Hikaru overreacted - Eric didn’t do it on purpose it was just the time crunch and they couldn’t get in sync on accepting draws.

😂😂😂😂

Didn’t Eric hang the rook of d8 around second 0:08???

@MRLBRMNN

2 жыл бұрын

Lol yeah

Lol what the heck

I can honestly say I don’t care about this petty drama lol

Ah the real toxic hikaru, only talented for chess. there it is

@RMF49

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he’s also talented at streaming and making boat loads of $$$ from chess.

@bomnitoperro9422

2 жыл бұрын

@@RMF49 i don't find his streams entertaining to be honest. But if you do is ok. I just dont like the guy and suporting douche bags

@Pedro-op6zj

2 жыл бұрын

@@bomnitoperro9422 touch grass

@bomnitoperro9422

2 жыл бұрын

@@Pedro-op6zj Im sorry that your idol is trash :v

This was the most blown-out of proportion thing in recent years on Twitch. I know like 50 people that say "They don't even care" when they are upset. Its just something you say, its embedded into the language. In fact we have the same thing in Turkish as well. Also he repeats everything he says, thats one of the reasons that makes him a good streamer because instead of silence he'll just repeat the same things over and over again. I would hate someone who does that irl, but its good on Twitch.

@DerickMasai

2 жыл бұрын

The issue was even this blatant hypocrisy, which got rightfully called out. It was what came after that cemented this into history

I know Hikaru might seem a little riled up here, but I think deep down he didn't care

Who was in the right here ? Was it a misunderstanding or oversight ?

@maxfiol2011

2 жыл бұрын

Hikaru in past flagged Eric and other players in all sort of ways, even pure dirty flags in not winning positions. This time, when the guy who has more time is Eric he just have to swallow the flag and stop. Eric just have to don't care and take the win in his sad face

@andresv.8880

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxfiol2011 Hikaru wasn't mad about just being flagged, he was salty since eric didn't agree to the draw after he(Eric) himself had offered one. And its just that anyway, a moment of saltiness.

@jeskaaable

2 жыл бұрын

@@andresv.8880 i still dont understand what happened. Eric offered a Draw. Hikaru declined Then Hikaru offered a draw and Eric refused ? Because I dont see it in the video. Why does he let the clock run out ?

@andresv.8880

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeskaaable when he moved I think the draw offer disappeared, so hikaru offered it back and gave Eric time to see and accept it

@maxfiol2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@andresv.8880 Sure in the end is just a live reaction that happens in competitions, but in terms of who is wrong and who is right hikaru first didn't accept draws offers when he is losing in position but winning in time, so was just too much gentleman Eric who don't go straight for the no mercy flag...

I really don't care 😉

What is there to care about?

@TheWolfnman

2 жыл бұрын

@André Ricardo People generally miss that the flagging isn't what he's upset about. He flags people himself, and has been flagged before, and continued. The issue is, Eric offered draw, Hikaru realised he missed it and offered it back - and then Eric flagged him.

@PHeMoX

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheWolfnman To be honest, you _don't_ have to accept a draw either way...

@MMAengineer

2 жыл бұрын

@@PHeMoX yes u have to. Only 800 elo moron nobodys like u win by flagging, the elites win by checkmate

@TheWolfnman

2 жыл бұрын

@@PHeMoX I'm just clarifying he's not upset about the flagging, which is a common thing. It's doing it after offering a draw that he's upset about. Whether they should accept draws is a separate discussion.

@LK25278

2 жыл бұрын

@@MMAengineer are you braindead? if an opponent spent more time for his calculations and flags at the end its his own fault... also, you literally never have to accept a draw

Old meme.

Just make a draw by repetition instead

I literally dont care

I don't understand like why did Hikaru get flagged?

@dannysidawi1763

2 жыл бұрын

because he doesnt care

@Viewsonic435

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannysidawi1763 he literally doesnt even care

@Ism0Lait3la

2 жыл бұрын

First Eric offered a draw, Hikaru missed it and offered a draw as well. Eric didnt accept the draw for whatever reason so Hikaru let the time run out

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he just want attention $.

Never really liked hikaru's personality

Who cares?

@stray999

2 жыл бұрын

not hikaru

Chess bum fans everytime there's Hikaru on Eric Bumsen's video: 🍆🚴‍♂️

Worst person in Chess is Hikaru

@gmansplit

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. Okay.

@francescobruno418

2 жыл бұрын

There are litterally supporters of Ukraine's invasion in the chess World... but ok

@seife41

2 жыл бұрын

I think he is actually pretty good at chess. I am an even more worse person in chess then. :)

@viniciuslongo4622

2 жыл бұрын

@@francescobruno418 anyone famous?

@anderseriksson6445

2 жыл бұрын

@@francescobruno418 Such as?

why Eric is such a bad actor?

why did hikaru make this a problem is what i don't understand, can someone enlighten me?

Ok

😂

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