The First Sliver vs Alela vs Arcades vs Arahbo EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering
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I think that sacred cat just soloed most of the table. Good kitty
*Cascades into wayfarer’s bauble* Commander Quarters: Now that’s free real estate
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
Mitch would be proud!
@unything2696
4 жыл бұрын
It's free, but you have to pay (2). That's life right there.
@7someone
4 жыл бұрын
It should be called Mitch's bauble.
@pkphantom
4 жыл бұрын
Somebody should send him this video, haha
@mn6334
4 жыл бұрын
@@7someone Mitch's nickname should be Wayfarer.
Trevor doing that retaliation play of 'Make everyone discard their hands because I'm dying.' basically helped Kyle win that game, really.
@corhydrae3238
4 жыл бұрын
I would never do something like that anyway. Of course you are salty when you lose early, and want to do as much as you can beforehand, but having everyone discard will only prolong the game.
@CarronBarboza
4 жыл бұрын
CorHydrae yeah, whenever I’ve been good asdead I’ve always switched my resources to evening out the odds or fun things like that, instead of just nuking things without any reason.
@RunninOnYT
4 жыл бұрын
The famous words were uttered;"and just because I can!"
@Leivve
4 жыл бұрын
@@corhydrae3238 That's not really salt. Especially if it's a universal effect. It's just you doing what you likely were going to do anyways.
@corhydrae3238
4 жыл бұрын
@@Leivve Yes, you're right, he would've done that at some point anyway. But in the situation where he knows that he's lost, he deliberately made a decision that does not impact his own chances of winning (since he was dead anyway) and that only prolonged the game and made it less fun for everybody else.
I've never seen a Sacred Cat do so much work. That was purrfect.
That's a very interesting take on Arahbo... instead of commiting to cat tribal, use the cats for early damage with Arahbo's pump and power draw to keep the hand stocked. I'm impressed.
@Arcdemon44
4 жыл бұрын
That is what I was thinking, now I want to rebuild Arahbo.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
I'm the Arahbo player. I wanted to make aggro deck work in edh, and I can say I got there.
@Arcdemon44
4 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 I have a Captain Sisay aggro deck that features Arahbo and Mirri as one of the ways to stomp everyone down.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
@Jack Counting Serra Ascendant as a 1 drop cat, there's 11 one drop "cats" getting you a 57% chance to have a turn one creature. So with that and a mulligan so have around a 85.5 chance before going down to 6 cards in hard.
@Boggsman
4 жыл бұрын
I literally came here to say the same thing!
Mudsta: "[Josh] really wasn't a threat until the end of the game" .......when was he a threat?
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
Once Arcades hits the field, things can get very aggressive. He could have swung for a huge chunk at one point.
@CaptTelnet
4 жыл бұрын
The turn before the boardwipe from Arahbo player, first cast of Arcades.
@BenjaminRicher72793
3 жыл бұрын
I love my Arcades deck i was so hoping that Josh's was going to pop off and do some major damage
it’s always crazy to me when a single deck can take on every other player at the table and win. that arahbo deck is sweet
7:42 is a perfect way to describe Josh's deck/situation in that moment
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
Haha!
Tammy should have been full swinging every turn with her whole board. Reconnaissance essentially allows you to attack for free, untapping creatures in the cleanup step or as they make unfavorable blocks. Was also a lot of missed authority triggers near the end. Overall a very interesting game though.
I like that you can tell the difference between the 2 Trevors just by the girth of their arms.
I like the Arcades list with bribery! It’s a great card in the deck, and a fun one. However 33 lands is ambitious
Both Ghalta and Arahbo should have come into play tapped on Kyle's turn 9 (around 9:35 or so) due to Authority and gained Jammy 2 life. This would have affected things down the road as she died to 8 damage with 7 life where she should have been at 9. Additionally Kyle would have been wide open to whatever attacks anyone wanted to point at him that round which may have significantly altered his own life point total.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
That's a big miss we all had. I'm the Arahbo player. They would have been able to attack me for a total of 40 on the dot bringing me to 4. Had I remember it, I would have left the dauntless escort and bellower back to block. I don't think it mattered that Jamie got two life as I was pretty far ahead and could rebuild quickly if she drew a boardwipe off the top, the extra damage taken absolutely.
@HenriqueLima-dw8yn
4 жыл бұрын
Despite the mistakes you played so fckin well this game
@Drewbe821
4 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 decks like yours are the reason I feel nothing when I play my Selenia deck. Kudos to you.👍
This was a fun match to watch! Love the kitties!
Is it just me or everytime someone plays Arahbo that damn Sacred Cat and/or Adorned Pouncer are always on the opening hands?
@clrl936
4 жыл бұрын
I dont mind Sacred cat that much but turn 2 Pouncer is really a nightmare with Arahbo.
@marceloquejinho
4 жыл бұрын
That is some actual heart of cards bullshit that happens Also Lost leonin
That was a very unique and resilient Arahbo deck!
Love you Kyle! 1v3 with sweet kittys, you did a great Job!
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Those were some beastly cats!
That's what happens when you run 33 lands and almost no ways to fetch lands out of your deck.... A friend of mine also runs 32/33 lands per deck and is ALWAYS mana screwed, but somehow still thinks that's the optimal number. Needless to say, he never beats any of my decks lol.
@ecos889
4 жыл бұрын
I play 30 lands but I also run moxen and a crypt and my average cmc is around the two mark with the largest typically being only give but I do play in high so it is somewhat different to mid and casual. :)
Super impressed with the Arahbo deck. It was really solid.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I worked hard to make an aggro deck in edh. I'm happy with the results.
@MrBobbybeast
3 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 hey mate, this is the best and cleanest take on aggro i have ever seen. Did you ever think of slotting in Triumph of the Horde?
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBobbybeast I have, its reasonable, Triumph is typically better in decks that go wider, and this deck is made to go tall quickly. It can definitely a game, but doesn't quite work with the main game plan. But this deck is not complete and fully optimized, so it absolutely solid to run
@MrBobbybeast
3 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 Thanks, you are right about the Triumph I guess:) I was thinking about putting in Thalia to get creatures in there tapped. I will try some stuff out. Thanks for all the great inspiration. It's so easy to fall in that "tribal trap" where you forget Cards like Rhonas that are actually super strong in this Deck.
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBobbybeast The main reason why I avoided tribal was that when the deck first came out, there really wasn't any other tribal support cards for cats, but I liked being able to drop a 5/5 on turn one. Running more taxy creatures could definitely be a solid strategy as well, slowing down your opponents a bit. 3 drop thalia is probably a great call for the deck!
The soothing voice of the narrative explain Josh's lack of mana is cracking me up !!!!! Lmao !!!!!!
I love the idea of a cat tribal deck and seeing this and how it can work I’m gonna give it a shot and use your links !! But I’ll have to keep it budget !
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
My deck isn't reallt cat tribal. It's more an aggro deck using cats to get cheap threats.
I kept listening Erebo over and over again as I was looking for the god. Holy crap a 1 mana cat won the game. I don't know if I should cry or laugh.
Go josh! About halfway though let’s go josh!
Did you ever get the link to The First Sliver deck! I want to build around his idea!!! Please and thank you!
Sacred Cat was driving that buss all game
Happy to see Cats win! Seeing blue lose makes my day xD
2:48 um, what do the life totals change back?
In the beginning jammy is meant to gain 1 when the wall is dropped but instead loses 3 and then gets hit for 4? Love the content as always! Great descriptions!
Hi, love your channel! But I really want to see more darreti gameplay if posible. (espacially your deck)
I feel your pain, Josh... :/
Love the post combat selfless spirit before losing a creature......
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
I'm the player here. Selfless spirit is used to stop boardwipes, not to protect individual creatures. I play it so I can go wider on the board without fearing of over committing.
I was super excited to see a cats tribal deck but idk if I can call this tribal with all of the additional creature types. I'm glad the Cat deck won but would've loved to see more Cats and non creature support. I've named my Arahbo deck "Big Cats" because it's only Cats, Ramp, +1/+1 counters and some Equipment. I run Helm of the Host to make copies of my Commander so I can target each creature more than once with Arahbo's doubling ability.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
the Arahbo player here. I don't call it cat tribal, it's a selesnya aggro deck that's using cats for one mana 5/4s.
@kingginger3335
4 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 I know you don't call it that I was just saying that I was hoping it was going to be tribal. There's not many Arahbo matches on youtube so I just love an episode featuring it. He's my favorite commander
Can we pls see more of that Arahbo deck? That was so sick
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm the arahbo player, sadly that was the only game I filmed with the deck, but the decklist is in the video info, so you're to try it out yourself
Josh has my problem of not drawing into lands until you need to not draw into lands, then only drawing into lands. I know that feeling way too well
Anyone know what trevors deck list is?
I would never scoop in a 1v1 situation unless I have no cards in hand. I can always bluff. I usually have bizzare stuff like deflecting palm that usually comes out of nowhere, and as long as the opponent knows me and has played against me before, they usually try to play around effects that fog the combat step and hit them in the face in the process.
Yeah that was definitely Jammys game. Some really awkward sequencing early game I think trying to play sol ring turn 1 rather than eating the tap land and waiting for 2
Took me a second to realize how the serra ascendant was killed
My friends hate turn 1 sacred cat more than a turn 1 Serra ascendant from dealing with my arahbo deck.
Wait did i miss something? 3:17 you say jammy gains obe life then her life tracker loses 3?
Trevor, a suggestion, switch your commander to the sliver overlord and if it isnt in you deck, add Morophon , the Boundless. Nothing like digging up a legendary sliver for 3 colorless and casting it for nothing.
Jamies deck sure looks fun like "you cant play anything because everything you do gains me life or allows me to fuck with you in some way"
Will Jammy ever have any luck drawing responses?
Sacred Cat MVP! Miau~
Sliver dies first...story of my life.
I saw the kitty
This is a great game because it has 3 of the decks I like to play. (all of them except Alela)
pretty fair match overall. enjoyable!
1 minute ago and two views... what am I doing? I cannot keep watching, as I’m then going to be drawn to buy more singles. But gameplay videos make me feel able to handle the day ahead... oh the vicious cycle.
Why wasn't reconnaissance used much?
Why didn't shifting sliver cascade when coming off first sliver?
@MTGMuddstah
3 жыл бұрын
First Sliver only grants other Slivers Cascade once the First Sliver is on the field. Because you cascade from casting The First Sliver, it still wasn't on the field yet.
Thats funny. I just did a purchase with wizard tower
@zoltanwolfe1260
4 жыл бұрын
No that's not funny
Arcades deck could really use some more lands
That poor Arcades. Jeeeeez 😂😂
The First Sliver vs Alela vs Arcades vs Sacred Cats.
GENERIC GOB
Still frazzled me that the First Sliver deck broke the alliteration of the other three.
No game review about Jammy's deck?
The fact that you kept calling Arahbo "Erabos" REEEEEEEEALY peeved me for some reason lol
@marceloquejinho
4 жыл бұрын
Me too! Cat's name is AAAA-RAAAA- boh 😜😜
"How many cats are in this cat deck??" - me, until the end of the video
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
As the Arabho player, it's not a cat, it's a selesnya aggro deck featuring cats!
@marceloquejinho
4 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 It is a Very interesting build! But made me confused 😆😆
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
@@marceloquejinho My play group always jokes about me not playing cats. I'm pretty tempted Serra Ascendant altered to have Cat ears.
Sadistic Cats, the game
First sliver without ancestral vision? Never seen a list without it
Not me only watching to see how an Arcades deck is played 😭
No party today for the Sliver bois :(
Missed a lot of sliver triggers. Cascade into Cascade on the first sliver ETB, then after the board wipe when Belligerent Sliver "finds nothing". Sad he got taken out so fast.
@laurageiler9218
2 жыл бұрын
That was because the First Sliver wasn't in play yet. It's still on the stack when you do its own cascade and doesn't give slivers cascade yet.
How did Serra Ascendant die when it was a 6/6 flyer? Did that 1 point of damage have deathtouch? Yuck
The first AAA!!!!!
That says Jammy not Jamie... Lol
No wrap up comment about Jammy's deck? I thought her deck was interesting too.
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't have much to say really. I feel like she played it very well and just couldn't keep Kyle under control by herself.
@JR-ti5jm
4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah It's all good Andrew. Keep up the good work. If I could make one request though... Bring more Goblins! Lol
Am I missing something @5:00 Trevor cascaded into a 4 drop sliver but he could of kept going cause all his slivers would have cascade so it would kept going until he didn’t hit another sliver
@mechrodan
4 жыл бұрын
No he couldn't have the first sliver wasn't on the battlefield yet to give other slivers Cascade
@dustinjackson8270
4 жыл бұрын
mechrodan1 @4:52 is when he casted the first sliver though
@dustinjackson8270
4 жыл бұрын
mechrodan1 then he cascaded into the blue 4 drop sliver and then stopped there
@mechrodan
4 жыл бұрын
@@dustinjackson8270 Casade happens on cast so it happens before the first sliver is on the battlefield so the other sliver would not have Cascade
@dustinjackson8270
4 жыл бұрын
mechrodan1 oh I understand now my friend just built it like a day or 2 ago so we both made a gameplay error thanks for the information
Ok I’m confused. With the first sliver you are casting what you cascade into, wouldn’t he continue cascading if he hit a sliver
@chasecasias9324
4 жыл бұрын
When you first cast First Sliver the cascade goes first, but since First Sliver is not on the battlefield yet other slivers don’t have the cascade ability yet so you stop there.
@DeltaFiend
4 жыл бұрын
When you cascade off The First Sliver itself it is not on the board until after that first cascade trigger resolves, as such you can only chain cascades on following sliver casts.
@Isheian
4 жыл бұрын
Well shit. Thanks y’all, I’ve been playing it wrong.
A sliver entering off a cascade ability will not itself then cascade this is a misplay FYI.
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
What part in particular are your referring to?
@jamesstreahorn2162
4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah My mistake, I thought I saw the shifting sliver get a cascade affect, mb.
1:05
Sacred cat MVP of this game
If by some chance someone is still here and knows the answer to this question,why would kyle have a card like Charmed stray in an EDH deck? Genually asking
@archon458
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm Kyle. I play charmed stray in the deck because in Arahbo its a 1 mana 4/4 with lifelink. The deck wants to use cheap cats to provide early game attacks while playing other big threats that are cheap. The ability for having more charmed strays might as well be flavour text
@QwaC
2 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 o shit! Well thanks dude. Not building a cat decl anymore but if I do I'll add it
Any link to the first sliver deck?
Ah, when the Serra Ascendant came down, Kyle's life was at 44. Doesn't that make the Ascendant a 6/6 ? It shouldn't have died to the sliver's ability right ?
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
Arabho player here. The sliver had deathtouch, which I forgot about and paid for that dearly. It was a really cool pairing of slivers.
@sureshwarankrishnasamy4300
3 жыл бұрын
@@archon458 ohhhh i forgot about that... 😅
Trevor did not see the comment and did not send the deck list.
I think i have an answer to the beginning question and my answer is gob
Shouldn't Trevor had another cascade with the first sliver and get a third cascade when he had cast the shifting sliver?
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
The ability on The First Sliver that lets other Slivers cascade only goes into effect once The First Sliver is in play. Because it cascades when you cast The First Sliver, it was still on the stack when he hit the Shifting Sliver.
Wait i think there was a misplay with the shifting sliver it shouldve gained a cascade trigger just saying cause first sliver gives all slivers cascade which allows the slivers to go down the chain
@tanjiro3957
3 жыл бұрын
Wrong, because The First Sliver was still on the stack when Shifting Sliver was cast with cascade. The First Sliver resolves AFTER its own cascade trigger.
Playing your commander and getting wrath in the same turn when you're mana is the cruelest thing.
Arcades wouldn’t have died to fighting Rhonas, cause act of authority would have tapped both the cat and the tracker.
@archon458
4 жыл бұрын
tracker came in last turn. But the act of authority were missed quite a bit
No Goblins No Like. Jk but still need more goblins.
Kyle decided that the current non threat doesnt ever get to be a threat and practically stops the mana screwed arcades player from actually playing the game
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Kyle. I wiped the board there not because of Arcades, but because of everything else. It was bad timing for Josh, but wasn't targeted at him. I even apologize during the game and he understood and laughed.
I was so sad when Jammy died. She was the only hope of defeating the cats.
At 4:51 Trevor should have kept on cascading from the first sliver due to all sliver spells getting cascade.
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
The ability on The First Sliver that lets other Slivers cascade only goes into effect once The First Sliver is in play. Because it cascades when you cast The First Sliver, it was still on the stack when he hit the Shifting Sliver (meaning the Shifting Sliver would not have cascaded).
Eminence once again proving that it's busted
The worst kind of person ruins the chance at winning for anyone else on their way out.
Jammy's name is missing a vowel. its being pronounced wrong. Also, she should have assisted Trevor in killing Kyle early game instead of going after him.
@MTGMuddstah
4 жыл бұрын
I'm respecting how she spells it and says it. It's not really up for discussion.
@TeensierPython
4 жыл бұрын
@@MTGMuddstah - yeah, jokes have a hard time coming across in text. Anyway, still should have mot gone after the Sliver deck. would have maybe done better?
so much miss trigger of jammy so many times she didnt won life and the creatures didnt enter tapped
Trevor's spite play of making everyone discard is a bad move. What you accomplish by this type of play is delaying the end of the game and making other players salty. It's one thing to inflict damage on the player that took you out, but it's another thing entirely to deny other players resources for no other reason than you can.
@Linkeh24
4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't even a good spite, really. If he wanted to spite Kyle as he was going out, fine whatever, but really it seems like he mostly just handed the game to Kyle, by getting rid of everyone else's ability to deal with him. But yeah I agree with you that the whole "screw everyone else at the table as you die" is pretty annoying. Targeted spite is fine, table spite is BM.
I really can't understand why the guy who's playing ahrabo chooses him, that makes no fucking sense
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm the Arahbo player, what don't you understand?
Just before watching the video, I just want to rant about Slivers since their "rework". I know it is to streamline the general take on board buffs that they should affect only one board and/or not accidentally affect an opponent's creature. And while I thinkthis approach is reasonable and I actually support it, I hate it on the little dudes named Slivers. First of all, it was part of their identity. I didn't play when they first made their appearance, but I guess the draft AND standard meta had always have to be wary of playing Sliver decks, lest they accidentally buff their opponent's board as well.That, in my opinion, makes for more nuanced deckbuilding within those formats - you could slap in a Sliver to reap some benefits, you could maybe include a Flying Sliver as a one-off when your deck had anti Flying tech anyway and such. Now, Sliver Standard and draft are no longer any concern, so bringing them in line with the rest is somewhat justified I guess, and anyway, those formats aren't even being touched by later sets. But they helped build an identity, and within the context of other formats, like Commander, little accidental buffs to opponents' Changelings or Two-Headed Giant's team mate synergies are just gone, which, I think, were neat little things that could happen, but were rare enough to not matter as much as having to monitor it closely. On the other hand, formats where both old and new Slivers are allowed, now always have to double check which one affects all boards and which don't. And the second thing I hate about it is the sheer amount of reprints. Just to make Slivers work like they are supposed to, many keywords have to be reprinted on Slivers, so a format like Commander, that likes redundancy to some extent, gets a big boost to exactly that. Also, basically reprinting is just... uninspired. Lastly though, Old Slivers were cute. New Slivers aren't. >:(
Came to watch Arcades. Really disappointing.
Dont like cats, stupid big dumb things are limited to mono green, end of story
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
Tell that to baneslayer, doom whisper, and terror of the peaks lol. Green has the easiest time and the most, but other colours can get in on the action.
i will dislike EVERY VIDEO you upload where one player is completely mana starved to do anything, unless that player was able to win with the low amount of mana.
@archon458
3 жыл бұрын
To be honest though, Josh's deck is only running 33. He got unlucky after awhile, but the deck building didn't help there.
Looks like someone doesn't know how Reconnaissance works.