*As with many videos, I made a mistake in my narration. I mistakenly said Matty drew cards from Thassa's Oracle. This was not the case, he instead picked one and put it on top. I reviewed the raw footage and he played it correctly. My bad!*

@Eldrad235

3 жыл бұрын

Great work as always bro

@plain6677

3 жыл бұрын

Best EDH video ever, well worth the effort!

@alexplambeck8791

3 жыл бұрын

would you ever post deck lists for these decks? I am teaching the game to my students and one is interested in making a niv mizzet deck and is curious what Kyle put in his

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexplambeck8791 Kyle's list is floating around in the comments. The others I am still tracking down.

@Trainwithseb

3 жыл бұрын

Got it !

This was a great episode. Sorry it was so rough to edit but it was great entertainment

Quick note on 30:12 : Vandalblast shouldn't been able to target Kyle's Sol Ring, since he is the controller of the Vandalblast and it says "Target artifact you don't control"

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, I mention that in my summary. I wasn’t at the game so I couldn’t comment as it was happening.

@CriticoDeNo0bs

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah Oh, really? I didn't noticed that you said it, my bad!

Matty went full "that annoying blue player" lol. Solid deck.

@beware3586

3 жыл бұрын

Its pretty hard to make a mono blue deck that isnt solid

This is one of the best games I have ever seen on your channel. I love longer edh games with lots of interaction and different strategies. Particularly liked watching the Muldrotha and Niv decks. The Masterpiece Noxious Gearhulk is such a nice piece of bling too!

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Me too thanks (long games not the commanders) the locust god and jori en are my style of izzet and I haven't played sultai in a long time do to certain cards making sultai no longer a weird pile of cards that no one knows what they are doing

This is my favorite game, felt like anyone could've won it at any turn.

@mikemoyer8162

3 жыл бұрын

Right?! That is exactly what commander should be. There were lots of triggers and interaction and it's awesome no mistakes were make.

@murdermastodon7469

3 жыл бұрын

This game probably last over two hours... that’s to much for me personally. But was enjoyable to watch for a fraction of that.

@alexstoltz1520

3 жыл бұрын

I have definitely been a participant in games that last 3-4 hours and it becomes quite a slog. Not my favorite, either, but sometimes the level of interaction just keeps things going!

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

I do like it when games are the same power level. Especially when it's mid-low power decks that win via skill and not one powerful card

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexstoltz1520 Longest I've seen a paper game last (I didn't play) was 4 hours 50 longest online edh game I played myself was 6 hours 30 3 chaos decks (one mono white) and an Eldrazi deck. My favorite games end up being 12+ turns and 2+ hours

This the most intense one I've seen from your channel. That ending was not how expecting this game to end but glad it was there to pack after the length of this game.

No Ancestral Vision in The First Sliver is criminal! You can cascade from a one drop Sliver into guaranteed draw 3 cards if it is your only 0 cmc spell. Love the gameplay as always!

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Or living end, a 0 cmc rock, etc...

@jmcwherterx

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingfuzzy2 Kinda new to this, how exactly does cascade work? From what I have read I understood it as; As long as you cascade to a sliver you can continue to cascade (with The First Sliver already in play). What stopped him from cascading after drawing the first Striking Sliver?

@kingfuzzy2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmcwherterx he had no costs underneath it like 0 cmc spells

The Twitter warning still didn’t prepare me for the 32 minute video

Always good to see similar power level decks duke it out especially if they are mid -low power ty goblin lord ( :

Great job! Misusing that Insidious Will at the end there...I’ve seen that happen soooo many times, including by me. A player gets in the lead and is super close to a win. He’s got an embarrassment of riches and several answers (often counterspells). So he just starts getting lazy and countering everything, not realizing or remembering that his opponents (this late in the game) can win out of nowhere. Gotta save your answers for the only the most important spells, because when you’re in the lead and/or close to a win, you are playing Archenemy, basically (you’re playing against 3 hands). This same thing happened in one of our games the other day. The only blue deck at the table (Elsha the Infinite) was super close to a win. All he had to do was get Elish Norn off the field so he could play his Etherium Scultpor and draw his whole deck with Sensei’s Divining Top. The Elsha player had a ton of good stuff in play...Jeskai Ascendancy, Top, Aetherflux Reservoir, and more. He used his last 3 mana during one turn cycle to Disallow a Disenchant that was targeting his Aetherflux (the Aetherflux was not critical. He had other wincons, plus Academy Ruins in play to get it back, and he was around 45 life). Now, that was on the Elish Norn player’s turn, and it was my turn next (it would be Elsha’s turn after mine, but now he’s tapped out) and I’m playing Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord “fling huge creatures at the table.” And I had a ton of mana and basically hadn’t done anything the whole game, and just had a lonely 0/1 Beast Whisperer and a ton of lands in play. With the window finally open (ie, the blue player tapped out), I simply cast my commander, then bestowed a Nighthowler onto Beast Whisperer and sacced it to Jarad. 35 points of damage to each opponent.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Control rule #2 counter only what can kill you. Control rule #1 patience is the wincon.

That's how a game of Commander should play out. Crazy game. Thanks Andrew for sharing it with us.

What a crazy game lol. Would love to see all of the lists, but primarily the Slivers and Thassa. That is one of the craziest Thassa games I've seen in a long time lol.

Probably the best game I can remember from your channel. Great decks and great plays. GJ all around

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

I like the Vilis and arcanis the omnipotent wins more but this is quite deece ( :

When resolving the Villainous Wealth and casting Aetherflux Reservoir, etc., Sam should not have gained any life from it. With Villainous Wealth you put all the spells on the stack before any of them resolves, meaning the Reservoir would not yet be out when he cast the other spells and thus not get any cast triggers.

@alexandrejones9692

3 жыл бұрын

@Varler Yeah, that's it. You can choose the order in which you cast them and thus that they resolve but you cast them all at the same time.

That poor Scuttlemutt. He just wants to join the party, but he kept getting bounced then finally countered

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Ain't no party like a scuttle party

@kastellan1324

3 жыл бұрын

Was it so dangerous?

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

apparently a must needed to be answered threat

Wow, this is an intense game. Everyone is hanging in there, duking it out against everyone else. Great game.

Kyle was chill for most of the game while everyone else bashed each others heads in. As a niv player myself, I prefer a more aggressive stance on account of board hate usually coming this way.

@archon458

3 жыл бұрын

I am Kyle, I usually am more aggressive as well, but there wasn't a ton of board hate coming at me, so I just held onto the evacuation until I there was lethal being swung at me, but because of the speed the first sliver can have, I needed to hold it up and not jam out Niv. I believe I ending drawing a bunch of lands that game as well, so I always lacking on interaction in my hand until the end of the game, but I could be wrong there, the game was over a year ago.

@CMAzeriah

3 жыл бұрын

@@archon458 Yeah I can see that now that I pay closer attention, that play where you bounced niv with the wipe was that because you were desperate for some answers or were you trying to be more efficient with the card draw?

@archon458

3 жыл бұрын

@@CMAzeriah It was over a year ago, so I'm super sure what my reasoning was. I think I played niv for the card draw but had him bounced with it, because if he was on an empty board against the Muldrotha, Sam would just recast a creature from his graveyard and kill Niv while I lacked any way to protect him. That's at least why I think I did it that way

@CMAzeriah

3 жыл бұрын

@@archon458 plague crafter. Gotta love be it.

@archon458

3 жыл бұрын

​@@CMAzeriah That's what I think I thought would happen. I know when I play the deck (which isn't due to rona) Protect the Niv is the main gameplan

This was super fun, great video!

Great game Muddstah! This is the content I subbed for :)

i love the edits, definitely earned a subscribe!!

so nice to see a fellow sliver deck^^

Best EDH game I’ve seen on your channel!

Would love to see some lists soon if possible! :)

6:52 newbie mistake. He could've cast Time Stop in response to the first sliver (if Trevor had chosen to play it). That would counter both the First Sliver AND the cascade ability.

I love longer games as long as there's interaction that makes it go longer. This was a good game

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Me too thanks and you also get to learn more about the other players perspectives in situations you've seen yourself in before

Its one of the best casual games i have ever seen! Great game and respect for all comment.

Great game. Worth the effort you put into it.

Wow, this is such a Game! A lot of interaction and comebacks. My favorite game of the year.

Was sad to go back to school today but this cheered me up:)

@ondrejkromer5732

3 жыл бұрын

How could you be sad to go back to school? I would love that

The surge does so much work in my Arixmethes deck. This was such a great game. That Thassa deck was mean, and the Sliver deck was a Lotta fun to watch

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

My arixmethes deck is weenies so surge wouldn't do much unfortunately

Damn, im getting my innerpeace with this. TY

Bravo Muddstah, best game in a while.

Great episode! Looked like a slugfest but a fun one to watch!

I'm here for the early train!!

Hey there, what an amazing episode! I don't usually comment, but now I reeeeally wanna try out a control deck that plays similarly to the thassa deck. So could you please get a deck list of it? Thank you for your great work!

Maybe it took so long because all of them were playing BLUE

@twidgetron328

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, as it should be.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

🎶🎵🎶I'm blue Da ba dee, da ba die x7🎶 I'm blue Da ba dee, da ba die x7 🎶🎵🎶

@leonk9074

3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly why

Long videos are a blast!!!

Oh boy, what a game!!! Loved it!

I watched every minute of this game! Thanks

So many responses it was great!!

This is the best game on this channel. Awesome.

Great game and editing!

I see why Niv's cmc is so crazy. I have a deck with him and with cards like hullbreacher/wheels, jace, and all his machine gunning.....he's pretty crazy.

@DarkEinherjar

3 жыл бұрын

CMC is being renamed to "mana value", by the way. :)

@The3OfSwords

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkEinherjar omfg no

@FixerFour

3 жыл бұрын

@@DarkEinherjar I'll never stop saying cmc

Seeing a First sliver deck stop cascading at a 1 mana sliver because they don't have ancestral visions or lotus bloom breaks my heart.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Or living end, another o cmc rock etc...

@pixelbomb97

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingfuzzy2 living end sucks, since if you are cascading all the way down to 0 you already have the first sliver out and generally you don't want to sac your commander.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

@@pixelbomb97 just was mentioning it as an example there are other 0 cmc suspend cards that I agree are better. I play reanamator a ton so wouldn't mind personally saccing him.

For people who want to play the first sliver, I highly recommend playing a couple of suspend cards ranging from ancestral visions to the suspend cards from modern horizons sets. They tend to be quite strong and will be an auto hit off of 1 drop slivers

I love how each deck performed great, it must have been crazy being in that game. How long did it last?

@archon458

3 жыл бұрын

2 hours and 52 minutes, it was very a long game

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

2hrs52mins

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

@@archon458 that seems low to what playgroups I'm in consider a long game ( ;

@NathanShepard

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingfuzzy2 same. We average 12.5 turns in my playgroup. Which can be as short as 1 hour and some change to being over 3. Depends on how late we stay up and how many beers were are drinking.

@kingfuzzy2

2 жыл бұрын

right on ( : longest game ive had is 6 hours 30 and deffo one of the funnest if not the funnest gasme ive ever had shortest 20 mins (no one drew interaction)

ITs worth it, this is such a good game to watch. KEep up the good work

At 7:12 Sam couldn't play tribe elder from Graveyard, becouse muldrotha allows only 1 type of permanent each turn. He already played Plaguecrafter that turn

@MstrKipper

3 жыл бұрын

They catch that soon after

I thought I knew where the background music was from, I’m playing it in orchestra right now!

Nice, would love to see the d3cklist for the thassa deck. I have built and rebuilt mine and I am never satisfied. This one looked sweet

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Ye more recursion than you have spells of that type is pretty sick also a ton of card selection instead of draw is even better

This video made me want to play Commander! What a game!

One of the best games on the channel!

Tight battle of wits and tactics that include one or the other player becoming the archenemy.

love the big cards in the Thassa's deck

The Thassa deck and Niv-Mizzet deck were fun to watch

9:01 "who take the hit" damn I should say takes "who takes the hit" Nailed it. -> *doesn't fix it in editing* =/ Great vid keep it up

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what happens when you listen to the same thing over and over again. You miss stuff. Sorry!

@ErikTheRedd1

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah don't apologize, it adds flavor to the video. You said this one was a long one so tiny errors are expected and do not detract from the game

12:33 Villanous Wealth puts all spells on the stack before any of them resolve (it would say "you may cast them till end of turn" otherwise). This means he would not have gained any life from any of these, as they had all been 'cast' before Aetherflux resolved.

Holy that was a roller coaster.

Small note: The Vandalblast was not able to be redirected to the Sol Ring, as it is target restricted to opponents only. It honestly didn't matter though.

If you are playing first sliver you should be playing the "0" mana spells like ancestral recall etc. They are a free roll

I didnt expect to see that much counter spells in a Comander game.

Did the lists ever turn up? :D would love to see them!

This is what happens when you bring four blue decks to the table, battlecruiser magic

That misplay on the villainous wealth, all the spells are cast before any of them resolve, so He would not get any health from the other casts until the aetherflux is on field. (Still counts number cast that turn though)

no decklists ? :( i would love to see that thassa list go get some ideas for mine :D

This cant be 2019 if thassa, deep dwelling wasnt released until january 2020 in theros...

Any chance we can see Decklists? I also run Thassa and would love to compare.

Making a Niv and definitely got to see a lot of good gameplay here for strategy : ) peace

I'm a little confused about villaneous wealth. I thought all spells you want to cast go in the stack together just like cascade so sam would not have gotten the life from aetherflux reservoir.

Shouldnt muldrotha not be able to bring back sakura tribe elder and plaguecrafter in the same turn sibce theyre both creatures? Nvm they picked up on it

Nice game Andrew

This table looks so good to play at, paying rhystic study triggers. Wish my play group would.

still no news on the lists ? :( would really love to the that thassa, its so different

Dang. I wasn't sure who to root against.

Great game!

Not a lot of single target removal. I had to disassemble my Muldrotha deck as everyone fired off their removal at it as soon as it hit the table.

Maybe it's some ruling I'm not aware of, but why doesn't Trevor cascade off of the sliver he gets from the cascade on first sliver? Cascade says "cast" and he technically "casted" a sliver from the first slivers cascade meaning he should get one, no?

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

The First Sliver gives cards Cascade only once it's on the field. Because it has Cascade as well, he's able to get one Cascade which was a Sliver, but that subsequent Sliver does not have Cascade.

nice game, i liked it. guys, remember that ciclonyc rift with overload said "each" and the slivers had pro blue. they cant be target from blue 20:45 sorry to my bad english, I hope you undertand to me. Bye. I enjoy see you

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Each and Target are not the same, so his Slivers still got bounced.

Lists please!😊

Someone has probably already answered this but, didn’t the slivers have protection from blue when the cyc rift went off? Was there something I missed?

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

Protection mostly stops targeting, destroy, and damage. Cyc Rift doesn't target when it's overloaded.

Hi, would you be able to share trevor’s slivers deck list?

I wonna build first sliver Atm would be nice to know what arena in the list from the one Player.

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget 0 cost spells

There was a play mistake. Insidious Will changed the target of vandalblast to an illegal target. You cannot make it target the caster's own stuff as the card reads "Destroy target artifact you don't control." To redirect a target, it has to be a valid legal target

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct. If they had caught that, Matty would have probably just countered it instead.

Can somebody explain the win con with splinter win ? I was so lost.

I need Matty's Thassa list, that deck looks awesome T^T

how long was this one? I personally recently had a 3 hour cockatrice game with that many people, which is odd given two of the decks were trying to be proactive with traxos and rakdos. then again I was mana screwed at the start and traxos got shut down before it won the game from a combination of removal with Nicky B, rakdos charm, and duplicant. and then my explosion got curtailed and things happened. fun game though and the small hits from thrumming bird mattered since I died for exact lethal.

@archon458

3 жыл бұрын

It was 2 hours and 52 minutes long

Awesome game!

Around 10:40, Trevor hit a crystalline silver, which gave his slivers shroud(?), But after Matty repeatedly targeted his slivers, first with a counter then a cyc rift. Am I missing something or was it just an oopsie

@blackrican924

3 жыл бұрын

Matty countered the crystalline sliver. Crystalline has to resolve for the shroud effect to activate

@arduit

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackrican924 aah I did miss that. Thanks!

I love those games

May I ask why did Trevor not cascade his talon sliver, and aswell as hes bonescythe sliver when he cast it? Thanks im trying to learn more into sliver decks appreciate it.

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

Can you timestamp when that happened? If he cascades while the First Sliver was on the stack, it's because the Slivers he cascades into don't have cascade until First Sliver resolves at the end.

@jessyreptiles4547

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MTGMuddstah Hey, thanks for replying I appreciate! Ok yes I just noticed that's what happend, the first sliver was cast on that turn. Sorry Im kind of new to magic and still learning a lot. Love your content nice job!

@MTGMuddstah

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessyreptiles4547 No problem at all! I'm glad I was able to help clear it up.

I have one question how many counters does Matty have in that deck I thought I played tons of counters in all of my blue decks but that is crazy

@kingfuzzy2

3 жыл бұрын

Probably didn't run more than 8 counterspells but had more ways of recurring them than the counters he ran. Which seems like a very good way to build a deck

A great game, but how did Kyle's commander ping slivers since the slivers had protection from blue? Or am I missing something? Love your videos, the commentary is priceless.

Thassa's Oracle doesn't let you put a card to hand, it only lets you put a single card from the top X on top of your library

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. I made a pinned post to this video explaining that I narrated it incorrectly.

What is the deck list for the first sliver commander deck

What a fantastic commander game

Ma’ boy Mr. Parun !

Hello, any notice for the decklists? Thanks

any updates on the list of the decks? especially the first sliver and thassa would love to use it as inspiration!

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Haven't been able to play at the shop since last year sadly. I don't know Trevor or Matty beyond them being there, so no luck so far. Sorry!

@CuTi3.14

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah no worries and thank you!!

That Thassa hand too funny, what more do you need