After the Lands podcast this week, I giggled when I saw the Forbidden Orchard in Cam’s yard at 16:40

@joskajiri

2 ай бұрын

yeah same :dd

i normally play a very staxy version of raffine but holy heck that Teferi's Ageless Insight was incredible

Cam sitting on that haywire mite with Counter Balance and Teferi's Ageless insight in play. Only for it to die to Orcish Bowmasters

@brucemuhlestein152

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was questioning my sanity with that, had to go reread haywire mite again to make sure there wasn't a clause in there stopping him from doing so

This is the only channel i love watching for cedh cause dylan and cam crack me up and the content is awesome 🥰

@stormtrooperjeepjk

2 ай бұрын

P2w is an elite cEDH channel, but this isn't fair to at least three other cEDH channels....

I don't understand why cam didnt use his haywire mite to exile the counterbalance. It would have let him go off with the LED, which probably would have won him the game on his underworld breach turn.

@primeshifter1699

2 ай бұрын

I wondered for so long

@tylercherry7424

2 ай бұрын

I know it doesn't work this way, but maybe he didn't cause they seemed focused on the spellskite. Might have been an oopsy daisy.

@un_nuage

2 ай бұрын

The spellskite can redirect the haywire mite's ability to itself and since spellskite is a creature the ability would fizzle, so Cam couldn't do use it, no?

@0urher0nik0

2 ай бұрын

@@un_nuageit depends if the spellskite can change that target to in invalid target. I know it doesn’t work with counterspells, but not sure about haywire mite

@ericbenevides5739

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@un_nuageOnce the haywire mite ability is on the stack it’s targeting a legal permanent. I don’t believe spellkite can change the target to itself- which would then be an illegal target.

Yo this is sweet, theses guys are usually the guys I see in my emails if something is wrong with my orders, very communicative and helpful. So happy to see them!

@JonasSilva-rx9px

2 ай бұрын

He didn't have a Green source

@connorbell5340

2 ай бұрын

@@JonasSilva-rx9px only green flags

Love to see Kaervek on the channel. Hoping it gets played again and gets a better showing as there was stated misplays :(

9:35 Sadness is a state-based action. The tears that come from sadness are what goes on the stack. hehehe

Esper Midrange Piles are the true heroes of the format. Love it!

Battlecruiser Raffine seems like it stands up to the test.

You guys are hella stoned rock on brothers. Great episode.

I have Teferi's Ageless Insight in Gavi, Nest Warden. Makes all the dinosaur cats. 10/10 cEDH staple.

Gotta love good old fashion beat down.

Looking forward to this one, love this channel

The Raffine-Decklist is not correct, he discarded Tinybones at 9:17 which isn't in the Decklist. Would you mind updating it, I'm very curious about that particular Commander :D

@testmand123

2 ай бұрын

Simon here. I made the decklist after playing the game, and Tinybones was borrowed from a friend so I forgot to put it in the list. It has been updated now. The card it replaced was Dark Confidant I think

@ajzach6905

2 ай бұрын

​@testmand123 where did you get your playmat?

@testmand123

2 ай бұрын

@@ajzach6905 I get most products ahead of release as part of my job, but I'm pretty sure that the Demon Hunter playmat and Sleeves will be available on the 21st of June

RAFFINE - hype to see my fav on the show, love how it can be built in many ways too - Stax, Heavy Reanimator, Beatdown you just can't go wrong

The silence at the end was my favorite

I’m building Raffine reanimation hate bears and I was JUST thinking about a cedh brew would be sick. That was a great display of exactly what I’ve been thinking

A play to win episode with my 2 favorite commanders (niv and raffine) never clicked on a video so fast

Great pod and great video!

Raffine triggers, draw 14...

I have wondered if laughing jasper flint has a home in CEDH, he can provide a chunk of card advantage as a rakdos good stuff pile as prosper, ragavan, dockside etc are outlaws and stealing cards of other decks for advantage since theft decka naturally want turbo type mana bases

I think there may have been a missed Talion trigger on the casting of Counterbalance

@AmateurHourMTG

2 ай бұрын

and Tandem Lookout

Is there a particular reason Jonas never shot the Hivewire Mite with Niv-Mizzet? It was Cam's 3rd artifact, so if Jonas killed it, it'd have turned off his Mox Opal

Nice win Raffine... 🏆, my favorite of my own 2 cedh decks

Would the storm copies on brainfreeze also trigger Talion? Or is it just the first cast?

@bensteinhauser784

2 ай бұрын

Talion says cast, doesn't mention copies so it will not trigger off copies from storm.

@philwalsworth4085

2 ай бұрын

@@bensteinhauser784 gotcha, thanks!

@crppledizzle9374

2 ай бұрын

@@philwalsworth4085 see magecraft abilities

Nice to see that raffine is a menace in CEDH as much as it is in Standard -_-

Good old fashioned combat win

Damn good shit as always boys

Sadness on the stack! Pass on sadness!

Oi lads. Quick note; I’ve noticed that your “teasers” for your upcoming episodes are really only appearing in my shorts feed the day of the episodes release. I’m not sure if it’s a timing thing in your settings or if that’s how you’re announcing the release of a new episode; but, if it’s meant to be a teaser to generate interest I think it’s coming out in conjunction with the episode and not the day or so before.

Would the counterbalance not have a chance to counter the silence?

@testmand123

2 ай бұрын

It would, but Jonas was going to concede no matter the outcome, so it didn't really matter. He was at one life facing down a Bowmasters and multiply counterspells.

@AmateurHourMTG

2 ай бұрын

Silence was cast in upkeep, and I believe the top card was known to be a land

Anyone know what sleeves Jonas was using?

@testmand123

2 ай бұрын

Those are employee-exclusive sleeves - Simon

14:30 Slight mistake with Kaervek, you have to exile something from your graveyard, no choice wether you exile or not, only if you cast it or not

@crimsonking905

2 ай бұрын

It's worded up to 1 card so no you don't have to exile

@mythito5120

2 ай бұрын

​@@crimsonking905Didn't even notice that, thank you for pointing that out!

at 6:00 he could have drawn of niv then counter balance trigger the capture which would have hit misdirection ;-;

Dude, Kev and I have been schemin on Raffine!!!

4:08. How did Dylan cast imperial seal? It's not his turn?

GREAT GAME!!! 😄

Are those Dragon Werewolves on Dylan's playmat?

is that a reef the lost cause reference?

Nice game! ❤❤❤

Simon's playmat is beautiful!

@Diamondstar1ify

2 ай бұрын

Anyone know where I could get one? 👀

@testmand123

2 ай бұрын

@@Diamondstar1ify Simon here, it releases 21st of June

@Diamondstar1ify

2 ай бұрын

@@testmand123 The calendar has been marked, sir. I have never needed anything as much in my life 😂😅

Powerbalance is gonna be so good lol

best sleeves in the game 🔥

Are you guys going to scg con Vegas?!?!

Lets go ageless insight!!!!

I like your deck name Nick Foles Goat 09 #GoBirds

as someone who plays niv... my niv starting hands never look like that ;-;

To me personally, the Raffine list looked pretty much like super-high power EDH or low-tier cEDH because I think there are better cards than Time Warp for example. Don't mean to say it's bad because it obviously won the game, so it can't be that bad. Reminds me of Edric which is also super fun to play considering that you kind of draw an similar amount of cards. Very nice game.

@N3VVZ0M

2 ай бұрын

Yes it’s not as good as something like Tymna Malcom but as a stand alone deck it’s definitely a fully fleshed out cedh deck and deserves respect, (your totally right that the extra turn effects are a bit wild)

Nice

hey it turns out that drawing cards helps you win the game have you heard this are you aware of this

Good game

Possibly very stupid idea for a podcast/game I had: commanderless CEDH. Since a lot of CEDH and the conversation around CEDH is based on the idea that the 99 is more important than the commander, what's the best 99 if you aren't ALLOWED to play a commander? Which Grixis 99s perform better than other Grixis 99s? How well do the 99S of RogSi, Blue Farm, BloodPod, vs Kinnan do? (the answer is great, fine, eh, and abysmal, respectively)

@jorjor500

2 ай бұрын

That’s just Canadian Highlander

dragonshield ftw

Happy to see Baleful Mastery in a game! Its such an underrated card.

Question.. During jonas turn Dylan committed a crime and use imperial seal and why was he able to cast it even its a sorcery speed? Its jonas turn yet..

@khrayzeegaming2389

2 ай бұрын

Karevek ability gets around time rulings

@raedien

2 ай бұрын

Kaervek allows you to cast that the spell right then or never. Many other abilities give you the ability to cast a spell from a different zone but give you a larger window. That window gives you permission to cast it from a zone you normally can't but does not change what time you can cast it.

Haymire Wite

Otowara cannot be redirected by spellskite? I think little confusion there

@noahpetrasko6777

2 ай бұрын

Yes it can, why do you think it can't?

@connorpalmer6454

2 ай бұрын

It targets and that's all that would matter right? I'm not looking at either card but I'm pretty sure he was confused bc channel is a strange way to "cast" without casting. It makes a lot of interactions odd but i think this one is pretty cut and dry

@crokeyza-team7257

2 ай бұрын

No your incorrect but I'm also incorrect. Didnt read "or ability" (hey reading the card explains the card)

Okay I've never gotten how Niv Mizzets get away with saying "I win" with Niv+Curiosity effects alone. Like, if your deck isn't bigger than everyone else's life total, and you don't have a way to reshuffle your hand/graveyard at instant speed, you CAN draw your entire deck and finish by pinging Niv Instead or something... but you still need to actually win the game.

Cause I was here in the first minute. I had to say first.

@primeshifter1699

2 ай бұрын

Watched all the commercials too.And I hate commercials

Very surprised by a raffine cedh deck performing. I play her but I didnt think she was good enough to run in cedh

Love you guys but this game made me so sad. You tunnel visioned Niv so hard and did NOTHING to stop raffine. Dylan could’ve removed raffine like 2 times and Cam could’ve Mited that Teferis Insight… Jonas would’ve probably backed you up with counterspells if necessary. Definitely not you guys’ best game

Tbh it was a boring win considering he needed 2 extra turns while others went berserk on Jonas's board. But great video overall guys!

Kaervek should have gone double imp seal for entomb and reanimate, casting broodlord and go for a win attempt ... played the deck poorly