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@blusheep2

3 ай бұрын

When you ask yourself, "why are humans so prone to beliefs and so susceptible to cults," remember that atheism can be just as much of a cult in someone's life as a religion can. The implication behind the word "cult" is that we drink the koolaid. Though we profess to be rational, we are every bit still married to those desires we want to be right which allows us to be manipulated by others or ourselves. I think this is proven out in the fact that we don't find with religious beliefs what we would expect. We would expect to find the Theist, agnostic, and the atheist, but what we really find is the Theist, that Atheist, and those that don't care one way another... the apathetic. True agnostics are nearly absent from the conversation. This, I believe demonstrates that human nature drives us to unquestioning belief. Atheism is no different because atheists are human to.

This was my favorite episode so far. I’ve been going through my own Islamic deconstruction for a couple years; and tried “plugging in” Christianity to its place. I’ve never heard someone so eloquently articulate the feeling of nihilism that process creates.

@CarahBurrell

3 ай бұрын

Britt is so amazing at speaking this language! It's a life saver. Literally. I'm so glad you're here!

@blusheep2

3 ай бұрын

I think what saddens me with deconstruction stories is that those going through religious deconstruction become jaded at religion in general. I can see why. You've lived a lie for a very long time and were probably very sure of its truth. The lie becomes exposed and you really don't want to be duped again. That must have a huge effect on your psychology towards religion and other claims to truth. Instead of running to atheism, which is just a trapdoor, take an agnostic position instead. A true agnostic position. Then don't think about religion. Think about the existence of God. Is there good reason to believe a God of some sort exists?

@jamiegallier2106

3 ай бұрын

What an awesome discussion!

wow… Britt Harley is amazingly intelligent. I’m an atheist and for a while I’ve thought absolute truth is important. Granted, i have recognized the social aspect of religion, but i never really gave it as much credit as she just opened my eyes to. Like she says, we’re hardwired superstitiously, it’s in our nature-and our nature isn’t purely logical or objective. It just is what is, and it’s evolutionary

My PC is my new God. It emits heat and light. It dazzles me with visions complete with auditory hallucinations!

love you guys!

So we were built to worship is how I take this. We all do worship something no matter what anyways. Money, power, God, our own children, sex, hate, academics, apologetics…something is at all times sitting on an imaginary throne and being worshipped by each of us and we were built this way. Built to worship. It’s interesting and very true in thought and deed honestly.

@gabrielm6551

3 ай бұрын

Yes!, we have the desire to believe like we have the desire to eat. It's built in to us.

I find this fascinating because women have the power to bring humans into this world, and men are attempting to take our power to procreate from us! Thank you both!!

@TruthSurge

3 ай бұрын

"because women have the power to bring humans into this world" not without a sperm, you don't. And who is trying to take anything from you?

@blusheep2

3 ай бұрын

How exactly are men doing this bewitched?

@bewitched3912

3 ай бұрын

@@blusheep2 have you been living under a rock?? The Republicans have waged war on women's reproductive rights. Zero abortions means zero impregnated children can seek relief and women whose pregnancy is ectopic is A DEATH SENTENCE. REPUBLICANS DEMAND WOMEN AND CHILDREN'S LIVES TO BE SACRIFICED TO THEIR GOD OF MONEY AND POWER

@Goobersnobber47

3 ай бұрын

How do you have the power to bring humans into the world without men? Each sex is dependent on the other for procreation.

@TruthSurge

3 ай бұрын

@@Goobersnobber47 shhhhhh you're trying reason on someone who is clearly living in a fantasy world! You can't reason with the unreasonable. They probably think getting "artificially inseminated" has nothing to do with men. haha

Thank you for this Im loving this pivot from just talking about Mormonism to how we all got here to this point. Im loving how you are shifting to building up a case and coming back with receipts I fundamentally believe that there is indeed a God/creator I do not believe in organize religion And feel that all religions in the world are causing more harm than good

@blusheep2

3 ай бұрын

What do you think the world would look like if you took all religion out of this world and all the institutions and organizations that were started by religion or heavily influenced by it? Ill give you a start. The Catholic Church alone, provides 65% of AIDS care in Africa. Half of the hospitals in the US are named after a saint because the Catholic church started them. There are in the 10s of thousands of orphanages, clinics, schools, counceling centers, after school programs, tutoring programs, homeless shelters, homeless kitchens, single mother support organizations, etc that are ran by the Catholic Church alone. Protestantism, according to many peer reviewed studies is at the center of education of the poor, and yes woman, throughout history. Tribes that were cannibals are no longer so because of missionary influence. Tribes that didn't know the concept of forgiveness now do because of missionaries. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, etc.... Almost all of the ivy league schools were started as Christian Universities.

Break the silence. Break the cycle.

I think it’s less that humans are naturally superstitious and more that as humans we want to understand what we are experiencing but as time has gone forward we’ve learned more. It seems like most science began with mystical views but it’s those very questions that unlock “reality” or rather our words or laws to understand it.

So religion is sorta like a subscription service model of coping with our tendency toward regarding *everything* as human-like, then forming communal lore--a Superstition+ Package with DLC

"atheist spiritual director". um... is that like saying my new green SUV is orange and I love it! ?

@saggguy7

3 ай бұрын

“atheist” is the opposite of “theist”, it’s not the opposite of “religious” or “spiritual”

@TruthSurge

3 ай бұрын

@@saggguy7 So can you then explain to me how you can simultaneously dismiss all gods yet retain the very essence of these religious beliefs - ie, there is something of an afterlife or soul or whatever you are claiming the word "spiritual" means? Clearly, the word "spiritual" contains the word "spirit" in there which is basically synonymous with "soul" which atheists (ones I know) would not believe in. Thanks.

@saggguy7

3 ай бұрын

@@TruthSurge you know, you are currently in the comment section for a video where someone spells all of this out for you pretty eloquently.

@TruthSurge

3 ай бұрын

@@saggguy7 who spelled it out? in the vid itself? I just read the title and laughed. "Hi. I reject all gods that mankind created ... yet... I want to cling to the silly and unsupported claim that there is an afterlife and a soul."

@jimgillert20

3 ай бұрын

Spiritual is also used in psychology with the meaning of emotions and inner psychology. So to talk about richness in the inner life is valid. Great question though.

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Must appease tribe leader Olif, then things go good. So must appease the sky to get good weather for the hunt.

I think people had awful lives back then and also didn't have things like video games. Then you add in the desire for humans to control other humans.

Until you can tell us what happens after your heart beats it's last, I would consider the possibility that there is a God. Sure isn't the moronic god, but sure could be a God with boundaries who is offering to help anyone who calls to Him.

@jasonshults368

2 ай бұрын

Lots of people have died and returned, with experiences and memories. They give lots of clues.

@kevinedward-jt2vs

2 ай бұрын

@@jasonshults368 People with sleep apnea experience low oxygen which results in many vivid dreams. Being dead three days and coming back is a whole different thing.

@TariqNavabiGaming

7 күн бұрын

@@jasonshults368I find it interesting how people give much more value to those with those experiences as the ones you’re describing, than people who have died and come back to life and described their experience as wholly nothingness. is one experience more valid than the other?

Religion exists bc life and the universe doesn't make sense without the existence of God. Science, beauty, love, mathematics, morality, logic... all require a presumption of existential truth.

@jasonshults368

2 ай бұрын

You're not wrong, but you're certainly looking at the wrong things.