I'm not even remotely bothered by anything Northern Ireland related.. but watching a vice reporter throwing a petrol bomb at a bonfire with the Irish flag on it is very bad taste. You'd think, at the very least, the editor of the video would have had the common sense to remove it

@jonas_security_kolinski

9 жыл бұрын

***** So why exactly are you watching this video?

@AaronAbernethy

8 жыл бұрын

I couldn't give a shit who throws what. They're all meaningless symbols for simpletons.

@AaronAbernethy

8 жыл бұрын

conor K Yup, it's our flag. Don't care.

@AaronAbernethy

8 жыл бұрын

I actually thought this series of videos were pretty impartial.

@Royals-bf6pk

7 жыл бұрын

+Aaron Abernethy boy you 14 year olds sure are edgy nowadays

Vice reporter setting Irish flags on fire? Not a very neutral documentary at all

@thepugawsomegamer1722

5 жыл бұрын

Ya

@judexavier1929

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome to vice

@edbutler9937

3 жыл бұрын

I’m English but even I was a bit iffy about that 😂

@tonyberculosis-2078

3 жыл бұрын

Vice are fecking orange bastards

@asc4096

3 жыл бұрын

@@edbutler9937 neutral Scot here, feels the same for me. The American guy is being pretty blase about it all.

“Friendly Drunken Crowd” “Happy Celebration” as they literally talk about a burning hatred and wat to kill an entire population of people, all the while burning things related to said identity they hate. So friendly

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

OMG they are so trashy, literally 10 year olds getting drunk and shouting profanities, what terrible parenting!

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

@@braydenfarrell1177 still doesn't excuse the horrible parenting...

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

@@braydenfarrell1177 The prods should either be happy with their Irish heritage, or move back to Britain...

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

@@braydenfarrell1177 well, If Ireland went back to a stable currency (the Punt), Do what like the huns did and #IREXIT , and had an actual halfway decent healthcare system (preferably like what America has since everybody travels there for healthcare), 99% of people in NI would immediately vote to re-join...

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

@@braydenfarrell1177 No, it was the inverse of that. The UVF and huns tried to further divide the island by force, and succeeded...

The moment the yank threw that Molotov, that's just completely disrespectful and in that very moment there goes the meaning "neutral reporter". Very very disappointing, VICE. You should know better.

@seanoloan5627

6 жыл бұрын

Preston Garvey mob mentality mate

@Avacados-rw8pb

6 жыл бұрын

i agree

@caolankeogh9226

5 жыл бұрын

I’ll make them kiss my feet when we get 32 county’s

@alex-sv8ru

5 жыл бұрын

CluasMusic let him burn it, he finds it fun.

@felixjconvery

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly dont see the problem let him take part in the tradition he's supposed to report might as well have a first hand opinion

not neutral at all seems to only get the unionist side and not nationalist

@matthewmclintock3514

4 жыл бұрын

Every documentary I've seen on Ulster shows the Unionist community as the bad guys. Particularly the way the Holy Cross crisis was portrayed.

@andrewfouhy7654

3 жыл бұрын

Matthew Mclintock because they are. They had no reason to set up paramilitaries, they weren’t oppressed and of course they feel the need to march aswell

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewfouhy7654 the UVF were the aggressors and started the troubles in the first place...

@Theo-bn8kx

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewmclintock3514 you mean the people throwing piss at waens were the good guys?

What really breaks my heart, is watching these sweet little kids, dancing and laughing to the burning of the pyre they made... innocents, being brought up with some of the same old pointless sectarian hatreds, not even knowing what they're doing it for. Even with all the noble work done towards peace and understanding since the Good Friday Agreement, the old darkness still lurks, just bubbling beneath the surface.

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

OMG they are so trashy, literally 10 year olds getting drunk and shouting profanities, what terrible parenting!

@Belfastglentoran

10 ай бұрын

Are you serious😂 this comment makes me sick how is this hatred??? Your scum making loyalists out to be sectarian your a bigoted scumbag

"I'm not going to university cause i want to stand up for my culture and heritage". Good choice bro. Tell me how that works out for you.

@minnesotamarine9861

5 жыл бұрын

in turdy years you can ask him your self. He will be at a pub drinking and depressed. Working a meaningless job with a meaningless existence reliving his glory days at the bonfire.

@TH3CAPN

3 жыл бұрын

@@minnesotamarine9861 thinkin he was soldier but was just an asbo

Extremely unprofessional behaviour.

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

OMG this is so trashy, literally 10 year olds getting drunk and shouting profanities, what terrible parenting!

as an irish person its hard to express how worrying some of these kids' attitudes are.....

Reporter burning the Irish flag, are you having a laugh?!

@leemckeown5197

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly

@AlexReed-hy8fk

3 ай бұрын

Bit of craic

I might burn a few American flags, but it's ok because i'll film it and say it's a documentary

@user-go3jv8rw7i

4 жыл бұрын

Eejit

@sufimuslimlion4114

4 жыл бұрын

U should burn American flags anyways and it's ok no matter what the context

@judexavier1929

4 жыл бұрын

Sufi Muslim Lion lol Muslim is name I’d expect.

@sufimuslimlion4114

4 жыл бұрын

@@judexavier1929 Yeah because muslims are the only ones tough enough to fight back and make American soldiers cry about PTSD

@judexavier1929

4 жыл бұрын

Sufi Muslim Lion yeah being tough means flying shit into buildings full of civilians instead of actually fighting so called ‘weak military’

I've never really been pissed off when watching a Vice documentary, but when he threw the molotov at the bonfire, I fucking lost it, that is not harmless fun, that's pretty much a gigantic "Fuck you."

This is just an embarrassment for us progressive, liberal minded people in N.Ireland. It's annoying how the documentary just stereotypes Catholics into Nationalists, and Protestants into Unionists. While this is true of the majority, attaching the religious labels just makes matters worse....

@errrzarrr

5 жыл бұрын

Progressives are the worse kind of fascist s

@isenfyre612

5 жыл бұрын

Really?

@TheDuked

4 жыл бұрын

@@errrzarrr but never the less this dude has a point

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

OMG the unionists are sooo trashy, literally 10 year olds getting drunk and shouting profanities, what terrible parenting!

anybody else think that the "VICE NEWS" part at the beginning is too loud?

sickened me to my stomach that you said they "generously allowed" you "after a bit of pleading" to throw a petrol bomb on the bonfire. Worst documentary reporter ever. I've never witnessed a documentary like this before, completely not objective.

5:04. Sound like 'Come out ye black and tans' chorus lol

Have to say....I only watched this to see Vice's reporting and how accurate it is in my experience and with the limited knowledge I have on history as one who has lived in belfast all my life. Good job Vice.

I was born on a Dublin street where the royal drums did beat, And those loving English feet they tramped all over us, And each and every night when me father came home tight He'd invite the neighbors outside with this chorus: Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders, Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra. Come tell us how you slew them poor Arabs two by two, Like the Zulus they had spears and bows and arrows, How you bravely faced each one with your 16-pounder gun, And you frightened them poor natives to their marrow. Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders, Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra. Come let us hear you tell how you slandered great Parnell, When you thought him well and truly persecuted, Where are the sneers and jeers that you bravely let us hear When our heroes of '16 were executed? Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders, Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra. Well the day is coming fast and the time is here at last, When each yeoman will be cut aside before us, And if there be a need, sure me kids would sing, "Godspeed, " With a verse or two of Stephen Behan's chorus: Come out ye Black and Tans, come out and fight me like a man, Show your wife how you won medals down in Flanders, Tell them how the IRA made you run like hell away From the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra.

Ive lived in northern ireland for 14 years and I have never been too a bonfire or parade.

@mrhackerman1595

4 жыл бұрын

Good on you

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

OMG those people were so trashy, literally 10 year olds getting drunk and shouting profanities, what terrible parenting!

HOW DARE YOU BURN MY FLAG #PROUDTOBEIRISH

@seanoloan5627

6 жыл бұрын

ItsSoOwen mob mentality

@harrisonlupton3857

6 жыл бұрын

Fuck the ira

@seanoloan5627

6 жыл бұрын

Pontus Janson you lookin a slap mate

@cameronburke8002

6 жыл бұрын

Burn his fucking flag return the favour

@conordonovan9027

5 жыл бұрын

Tiocfidh ar la

This is all from the huns point of view

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

the English aren't even from the island of Great Britian, they are from Saxony in Germany...

"I wanted to go to university but....." ? What? Like he'd get into even the University of Merthyr Tydfil ffs

friendly celebration, great journalism

The troubles is arguably one of the most complex & difficult to understand conflicts of the twentieth century. It's rather telling kids yelling anti catholic slogans & burning flags have little idea what any of it means. Consider most adults, both inside & outside the conflict have little idea where it all came from or what any of it means, it's hardly surprising. It's all little more than hate few have any idea of its origins of being passed from one generation to the next. It's a very troubling sign for the future of the region & all the people who have to live there.

Shame on you. All for a documentary? Disgusting behaviour.

I absolutely love all of these documentaries. But please...PLEASE PLEASE change that intro modem sound. It's like 70,000 times louder than the audio in the videos, and it makes me lose control of my bowels explosively. It's super, super, super lame - but the videos are pretty much the best things on youtube right now.

I'd like to see VICE light a Guy Fawkes November 5th Bonfire.

Loyalist starter pack: Blue WKD, bootcut jeans, Crosshatch polo, DIY tats

Why is there a "VICE NEWS" intro when the series is called "Vice Travel"?

Absolutely. Both sides should be able to respect each other...& thanks for not taking my comment in a bad way! :)

To see loyalist northern Irish folk play Black and Tans is quite ironic if I do say so myself

@Brakvash My comment was in reply to another not to the video itself I think the vice documentaries are up there with the best on the web

I can't believe I just saw a reporter throw a petrol bomb 🙈

Are you from NI? What do you think of Fermanagh? And West Derry? Both majority nationalists.. Do you think they alone could join the ROI?

4:42 "...show them how the IRA made you run like hell away...." FIND YOUR OWN TUNE LOYALISTS!!

@Dara.308

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed

Thank you

@ 7:00 is that the guy in the Fraudsters Vice Guide?

Thanks for contributing to the slowing of intellectual human progress.

im in Belfast now. lovely place :). this doc makes it sound like the wild west. would rather be here then Compton.

@-jank-willson

3 жыл бұрын

or Chicago...

i was shocked too " its only a bit of fun" he doesnt know the horrors the society accepted over this whole fighting and tension issue

incredibly shameful and unprofessional for the journalist to have burned the irish flags

Anyone know of a good documentary showing the Catholic/Republic side of it? I've been looking around all day, and so far everything I've found has ranged between a slight bias toward the Protestant side to straight up British propaganda.(Vice's videos here have been the most central thing I've come across)

If you want to have an idea of what the atmosphere is like at a loyalist bonfire the best way I could describe it would be a mash up of a KKK cross burning in a Mafia controlled area with all day drinking, an undercurrent of soft drugs, paranoia, intimidation and, provided you agreed with the local mafia don aka UDA or UVF leader, a lot of fun. I used to go to them when I was a kid and the good news is that when you grow up, get educated and meet people from other backgrounds you realize that the whole idea of bonfires is an exercise in navel gazing bullshit for people who have little control in their lives and think that rubbing peoples noses in cherry picked history from 300 years ago is the way to feel important.

@cw5394 I hate to break it to you, but during "the Troubles" there were still more murders per capita in Chicago than there was in Northern Ireland.

Kids that dont even remember 1960 singin bout 1690....

Well said.

Can someone explain to me why every place the British empire put its hand on, people are extremely segregated?

@mirocreed

8 жыл бұрын

+Mosco Monster Good point. The answer is simple "divide and conquer"

Vincent Cassel on the drum @4:55

BTW Most People in actual Britain don't give a shit.

@nathandurbin9260

6 жыл бұрын

TheMostAugustCaesar wrong.

The blonde one waving the banner at 4:44 and the one with the bottle of blue wicked at 4:47, yes I would.

I saw much like this in Armagh, people who weren't brought up in the mindset don't understand it, but it's nice to see a neutral perspective on the issues, although I equally despise the unionists.

Watching the children spew shit they don't understand or have any clue about hurts me the most because they show the cycle never ends and they've been brainwashed regardless of which side they're one.

This series seems to focusing a lot on the unionist side..You'll find that not everyone in N.Ireland is an sectarian as this. A very small percentage of nationalists try to confront the 12th July parades only because they purposely disrupt the ones who don't celebrate it. I don't care about my attitude, the majority of unionists don't know what they're fighting for. They caused this conflict and they're too stubborn to end it, no argument about it.

Hey Vice you spelt the word capital in the title wrong.....

is that the same micheal moynihan that wrote lords of chaos?

Everyone complaining about the host throwing a firebomb needs to step back for a minute and realize that Vice doesn't give two shits about being unbiased or appearing that way. Even if they were, he's taking part in a celebration. It's like a foreign reporter taking part in a July 4th celebration. Calm down.

I am Irish I went up to Belfast it is so bad I went with my parents to a pub with a Ireland top on and we got kick out my mam went to get coke for me then she came back and she said we have to go

What is the name of this reporter

The thing I don’t understand is how do they know who’s a Catholic or a Protestant?

Is Bonfire night a hateful activity?

But I'm just saying that It was, well, established that the bonfires was used as an offensive act against the Catholics, with the derogatory term "Taig" written on the pile and the faces of several Irish political leaders plastered on the pile. Just seems unprofessional for the journalist too take part in it, instead of being neutral.

Are there parts of Ireland that burn the Union flag for “fun and tradition”?

@oog2370

4 жыл бұрын

Trust me the loyalists are scum of the earth

@simonanderson6166

Жыл бұрын

Last I heard no

Free Ireland

Class

Why would you choose an intro sound like a fucking 90's computer crashing?

Its the devision of NI that created a failed state and mass poverty that now is sustaining the conflict. Ireland should never have been divided. Its stupid to think separating 6 counties from an already peripheral and small Island would some how work.

The British don't even want them

haha I know what you mean! In America, people just assume that everyone in Europe speaks English with a British accent.

I’ve never seen more red, white and blue and I live in Glasgow 😂

This is not meant to be gonzo journalism. It is meant to be objective and impartial reporting.

Not necessarily. Many Loyalists are of English descent. Their ancestors were sent to Ireland by the Monarchy centuries ago.

The girls blue eyes matched her blue alco pop

i have seen the preview for savages about 11 times now!!! still not gonna go see it

Am I the only one that's disturbed that the journalist actually participated in a discriminatory act, by throwing the Molotov cocktail at the wooden pile; with Irish flags on top. I'm not trying to be political correct here.

will they stay when the island is united and your goverment is in Dublin?

Ay my man with the yankees sweatshirt, i dont care if they arent wearing it cause of the baseball team but the yanks are my favorite baseball team

it makes me sad how the kids parents involve them in this already brainless conflict

This reporter seems incredibly biased in favour of the Unionists.

this is pathetic behavior, these people need to get it together (coming from an irish american with a majority of my family immigrating from ireland due to the famine)

@ventedbus4917

Жыл бұрын

It’s not pathetic people on both sides were murdered for 30 years non stop it’s gonna take some time

Im Irish Catholic! what happend, happend! cant understand why people have to live in the past.Irish in the south don't care for this anymore.

Pretty pathetic that they’re burning the Irish flag while squatting on the land, real classsy, not even the country you pledge your loyalty too doesn’t care about you

Exactly I leave on the 8th of July to stay away from any of the stuff that happens

Well said my southern countryman. Dont let crashwarrior fool you into thinking all southern people think like him, hes a coward. Im from the North and i think we both agree that all this nonsense ends with our generation. The more people that come up from the 26 ccounties to populate the 6 counties, the better.

Came for the accents, stayed for the accents.

Both sides are disgusting...

@mrhackerman1595

4 жыл бұрын

Really and where are you from

Grew up in Tallaght man, i know how you feel

You've obviously never heard of participant observation. His participation wasn't really a big deal, but it allowed him to build rapport with the people he was researching and gather more valid data about their hatred to show to a wider audience. He made a short term sacrifice for the greater good, otherwise you'd never have seen this film.

@bobsucks9647

6 ай бұрын

No, he said he begged them to let him do it

This reporter let a bunch of kids pressure him into taking part in a sectarian hate rally. What a total stooge. Would vice considering sending someone to a klan rally to light the cross? That’s a serious question vice cause I know theres people who would love for vice to come promote and condone their activity too.

At 5:20 I don't understand why they blurred that guy's face. I mean it's clear that it's the same Rab in the beginning of this clip. He doesn't really have the most generic build and he's wearing the same clothes. And you see him tossing Molotov cocktails a few mins after they blur him. Seems pointless.

volume...change it

I'm Irish Catholic by birth right, I never said anything about my beliefs.I don't think anyone should be judged on there Beliefs, race, sexuality or any creed at all.I have my own views on things I don't have a bible dictating me.

live and let live.

cant believe the reporter through the fire bomb

I don't see what your comment has to do with my question?

That will fall apart more than likely...

I don’t want my country’s capital looked upon as a terrible place 🇬🇧🤝🇮🇪🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

What do you mean?

Very sad to see people delighting in burning the irish flag and in turn celebrating being British....

This lad just burnt our flag wtf 😂😂😂

When the kid says slabber around 4 minutes in, he means slabber not slobber, its slang for talking shit about someone