Rob Kearney is one of the smartest pundits in world rugby because he has played the game,understands its complexities and communicates really well.Gosh he qualifies to be 🇿🇦

@andrewdunne1735

3 ай бұрын

Ye're welcome to him now😂😂😂

@Sineadhawk

3 ай бұрын

Him and Shane Horgan always have great analysis

@ndumisodatini3373

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I can't say the same about that old man called Matt 😡😡😡

@user-cs4rl4gg3i

2 ай бұрын

No personality though.

@christianjambou8208

2 ай бұрын

He isn't nasty enough to be a safan.

I never thought I'd ever say this, but I agree with Matt Williams.

This video deserves all the awards

In the 80s, it was called "Aerial Ping Pong." I first heard that term in 1986 from an uncle of mine who lived in Australia, when visiting there from the USA. Keen RL fan who also loved RU. I laughed when he said it. I think he mentioned names too, as to the fly halves and full backs of the time who would get into these kicking matches during a match. There was quite a bit of it, as I recall, in the quarter final of the 1991 RWC between France and England, with Blanco "catching" the ball with his feet to avoid a knock on.

@slaw38

2 ай бұрын

I think aerial ping pong was aussie rules.

@jameswyatt4443

2 ай бұрын

I’ve always known it as kicking tennis.

Yes, it's boring, but very few sports are exciting 100% of the time, so I dont think it's 'killing' the game. Even football is dull for large swathes of the game (but at least it's easier for casual fans to understand). I'm sure they'll fix the law eventually, but let's not be hyperbolic here.

@marcdaniels9079

3 ай бұрын

Basketball is 100% exciting 😅Non stop action.

@ldfreitas9437

3 ай бұрын

@@marcdaniels9079 I live in the US. I'd beg to differ. I've seen passages of play where either team missed baskets, and therefore not much scoring, and a lot of running around and looking for an open player to pass to. Yes, a lot of the time it can be exciting to watch. Basketball is at it's best when there are fast breaks leading to a score, or a three point shot from thirty feet. Steph Curry can bring any crowd to its feet when he's on. He can also miss those 3 pointers!

@arandombard1197

2 ай бұрын

Its not really in the spirit of the game. The point of an offside line is that you need to get back onside before you can engage the ball. Instead they just stand at the other end, not onside at all and if the receiver moves or passes, they suddenly become onside again. They should be forced to return to their kicker or have the ball move past the kicker.

@joewayper3568

2 ай бұрын

​@marcdaniels9079 which part of Basketball is exciting 😅

@Quagmagorag

2 ай бұрын

​@@marcdaniels9079 Basketball is crap. It's just P.E.

Wilkinson was the biggest proponent of this style of play during his career. Though it makes sense that it wasn't an issue when Englishman was doing it, but now that a Frenchman copies Wilkinsons play style it's suddenly the talk of the moment.

@matthewbazeley2984

Ай бұрын

yeah of course, because the English are so loved around the globe, everyone in rugby union ignored this issue when Wilkinson did it and waited ten years after his retirement to pin it one of the most popular players in world rugby.

Rob Kearney played at the highest level, with incredible skill!

Rugby is killing itself because there are too many laws making it so complicated that no one - players, spectators or referees - understand what the hell they can and cannot do on purpose or by accident. And mostly in the name of elf and safety. The moment any sport gets too complex to play, watch and enjoy is the beginning of the end.

A couple tweaks could fix this: eliminate the mark for uncontested kicks and require the catching player to use the ball immediately, not dither with it. The kicker of the ball should also be required to immediately run forward to bring players onside. Seems like a simple fix.

@arandombard1197

2 ай бұрын

It can be fixed by having the rule do what it is supposed to. None of those players who are offside are allowed to be onside until they're in line with the kicker (or if the ball has passed the kicker. Simple as that. Right now, they are basically exploiting a loophole that magically makes them all onside again by just waiting until the play has continued on to the next stage.

All the rule changes are killing rugby. I have never seen anything like what I saw on Saturday. It was ludicrous. Good job law makers👍🏻

@ldfreitas9437

3 ай бұрын

I still referee at age 69. Started well over 20 years ago after I stopped playing. The game started to really change with the '93 law changes, then the more recent ones to make the game "safer." One thing I've noticed over the years is that few FBs seem to take advantage of creating a counter attack, like the late JPR Williams, from kicks that seem to be just wrong-headed kicking possession away. Carwyn James wouldn't approve of all this wayward kicking by full backs.

@DouglasLyons-yg3lv

3 ай бұрын

The law has always been there. DuPont figured it out.

Killing is a pretty strong word.

@ldfreitas9437

3 ай бұрын

@@davidholgate123 It takes over two hours for an international rugby game. Used to be less than two hours. There were less subs before, and most players in an international match went the whole 80 minutes. Most of the players looked like normal folks, not huge behemoths like in today's time. George Ford looks normal. Owen Farrell would have been a second row or 8 man fifty years ago. Tall wings like Duckham were a rarity.

@Pjamjam

2 ай бұрын

​@@ldfreitas9437abd your point is?

Rob Kearney is one of the smartest rugby pundits on planet earth. Rational, logical and transparent. Keep it up Rob

What was the law change in the 60s that got rid of it?

Kicking duels are a fascinating part of the game, but i agree that the 5m run law is silly. Allow them to stand still, but an onside runner should have to play them onside before they can advance. The 5m rule destroys counter attack

What is killing rugby is the stigma around contact to the head, I understand certain challenges that are high can be dangerous but alot of the time you have a 6'6 second rower trying his best to lower his body to make a tackle and part of his shoulder hits his opposion on the side of the face or chin or whatever and it's a immediate yellow card, rugby is a frantic sport and sometimes players heads knock into one another its completely unavoidable. There has to be some common sense when these clashes happen as its killing the game, one minute one team is on top then they are down to 14 men possibly for the whole game because of an innocuous challenge. It's so stupid!

@ldfreitas9437

3 ай бұрын

Well, I have issues with the armpits now being the highest part of the body to determine a high tackle. Used to be bottom of neck, then top of shoulders, and now armpits. And from a distance, how does a referee determine if a wrapping arm is above the armpits, just below them, or just on them? And like all laws, referees seem to enforce the first year or two, and then there's a lapse of enforcement. And that's how crooked feeds and lifting became "legal." Refs didn't penalize!

@mikejones-go8vz

3 ай бұрын

Most of the time no one is injured and stop with the ultra slow motion replays. When a team loses a player, I switch off

@annefilippobertozzi7601

2 ай бұрын

I totally agree: most of matches are absolutely distorted by absurd red cards.

Change the substitute rule too. The 7-1 and 6-2 bench splits are hurting rugby just as much, I would suggest a mandatory 5-3 or even (less likely) 4-4 split

@KiloPage777

25 күн бұрын

Who is it hurting? 😂

Why the heck did you guys end up calling this the Dupont law?

@chipperjaunte

3 ай бұрын

He exploits it the most

@WSEDT-re6mn

3 ай бұрын

​@@chipperjaunte Should be called the Russell law then!

@Jonjammin

2 ай бұрын

Dupont makes Farrell look like an amateur thug, so they have to drag him down somehow.

If the kicker continues to run he puts his players onside! No problem at all!

@Jonjammin

2 ай бұрын

After 5 meters of running it's open play and everyone is onside, regardless of where they are on the park.

Get AWJ back on here. He's so knowledgeable and lucid.

Shur, Kearney used to do it for a period as well. Himself, Lee Byrne, Bauxis etc.

Matt: No, it isn't the Du Pont Law killing rugby but the Boks. 😂

The "dupont' law sections have been in the law book since the 1870s! Always been there. Nothing has changed. Obv needs to (and looks like it will be)!

Competitive games played at a high level are about finding weaknesses, both in the opposition and in the rules. This problem isn’t new.

I’m really surprised coaches haven’t taken advantage of this. I think the best thing to do would be to catch the ball, wait for the forwards to return, set up a rolling maul, and move up the field. It would probably create a penalty and would definitely put your kicker in a better position.

@jamess3408

3 ай бұрын

You can't create a maul without an opposition player

@StopTheRot

3 ай бұрын

@@jamess3408yes, sorry, I meant make contact first. What I mean is that the forwards could literally prepare behind the person that catches the ball, and the opposition players HAVE to stand still while they’re doing it.

@ldfreitas9437

3 ай бұрын

@@StopTheRot I played for quite some time. My club wanted to counter attack if we played a team that kicked and played 10 man rugby. The FB ( I played FB) and/or wing would set this counter move up, and we practiced it in training for ten to fifteen minutes each session. It was the responsibility of the other players to retreat and become part of the move, especially the other back line players and flankers.

@arandombard1197

2 ай бұрын

They only need to send one onside player down to force a pass and then they all become onside again, which is stupid.@@StopTheRot

One good spiral kick with MASSIVE hang time would negate all the other kicks in that or any other sequences you played.

Lifting in the lineout and squint put ins to the scrum helped kill the game for me years ago ... all we have now is15 a side rugby league

@iluvmusicqwe

3 ай бұрын

Lifting in the lineout have killed the game? Jesus wept 🤦🏻‍♂️

I am curious, why in the world is that called the Dupont Law ??? Oo

@Farzocalypse21

3 ай бұрын

I think he was either the first one to spot it, or certainly was the first one that exploited it regularly by not retreating when his team kicked it and waiting for the opposition player to move forward.

@howshecuttingbogman8999

3 ай бұрын

It is called the DuPont Law in memory of the guy who invented it, Ruprect Dupont.

@tootsie323

3 ай бұрын

@@joebateson1081 No - they couldn't wrap that one up

@thecuttingsark5094

3 ай бұрын

He was one of the first to exploit it

@rob.1

3 ай бұрын

​@joebateson1081 yes, he gets to live in your head regardless of the topic of conversation.

I thought poor refereeing was killing the sport

@AjaySalmon

3 ай бұрын

It is, haven't you heard? Everything is killing the game, scrums, mauls, kicking, the ref and basically anything that isn't running. I've got an idea, let's make a new game without all the silly fluff, and take away 2 players so there's more open space to run. That'll surely save rugby which is obviously on life support right now.

@Davidvx1468

3 ай бұрын

Everything that goes against their team is killing the sport lol

@bluetheminx

3 ай бұрын

It is. And kick tennis

@71bootneck

3 ай бұрын

Blaming the regs. That’s line shooting h the messenger. WR is a mess

@davidpeters3857

3 ай бұрын

@@AjaySalmon Exactly,it’s becoming ridiculous

DuPont and French team: let’s play kick tennis. Lowe and his big cannon left boot: na, that’s boring.

What is the law change that brought it back?

@Xorthane

3 ай бұрын

No change, I dont think, just the French took on a retired referee post 2019 and using that they figured out the loophole There's a great article by Kinsella on it

It's ok. Springboks will just call a scrum.

Some of the laws aren’t too bad. It’s the coaches doing work around to bend them to their limits. Gone are the days of good running and skilled rugby. Take a look at South Africa who now have a referee as part of their coaching team. That says it all.

Union has been destroyed by the governing body. They are inept and incompetent administrators and officials have ruined the game removing any continuity. It's boring as a spectacle. Most people give up following a sport when the outcome is a lottery. That's how bad it has become.

What are they on about? "Kick tennis" has always been a part of the game and this law change isn't going to change that. Especially when there are back three players who have a long kicking range because it works and gains territory. You think France and Ramos are going to stop kicking it long? Of course not because in that little tennis battle then end up gaining 30-40m by the end of it

It's the northern hemisphere teams. They can't just play tough rugby. They have to play rugby like it's an exam just so they can beat the southerners. That's why they can't win a world cup. The only time they did was eng 03. And they really did earn that win.

@GrowRich-si6qy

2 ай бұрын

Well SA or all blacks need the refereeing like in 1995, 2011 or 2023 to win world cups. Ofc northern hemisphere can't do shit about it

I thought everyone being worried about concussion is killing the game. Saving brain cells mind your

Anyone of them could have read the laws 2 years ago and worked this out. But they didn’t. THAT is the problem with rugby.

Rugby laws have become the worst example of unintended consequences. Run by idiots.

@johnteeling4679

2 ай бұрын

And administered by morons

The Laws have al.ways been flawed... most of the time those complaining about it lost their match. Deal with it; train harder, work harder, play better. If you are outclassed stop moaning about the Laws!

It's not a law. It's not. Law 10 4c and 10 8 explains it. I feel like im in the twilight zone

Really?

So get a petition up to Workd rugby and do something about then just getting paid to talk about it😮

This is a storm in a tea cup. For how many minutes was aerial ping pong played Scotland v France? One minute? Two? By all means fix the rule but let's not get our knickers in a twist over this.

How Many years does it take for rugby to die 😅

Royce Dupont?

Calm down Finn is the only one doing it right now and it only happened a few times. It’s like this happened for 20 minutes of the game

Hey Matt....have you gotten over your PTSD already....SA won the World Cup😂😂😂😂

@kesivan

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Will rugby survive?!?!

@freddupont3597

2 ай бұрын

LMAO!

Rugby is dying a slow death ,far to many rules to help even up the playing field , Boring is the word

I'm conflicted at the reality of agreeing with Matt Williams... well, sh*t... lol.. #Bokke 🇿🇦

WR is effin up rugby...

@iluvmusicqwe

3 ай бұрын

They have nothing to do with this.

this isn't killing rugby. the desperate slowness of play kills rugby. scrums take forever. penalty kicks take forever. more points are made from penalties than tries I stopped watching last year.

A sport that doesn't enforce its own laws is already ruined.

I thought poor punditry was as killing the sport

The moment Matt opened his mouth, I stopped the video

Irish people complaining about France making the game boring

Bullshit,,,,, make kicking duels great again

Stop trying to change the game at every turn. Rugby is beautiful the way it is. If you want to see what "boring" and endless stopages look like watch an NFL game.

@mysteryhombre81

3 ай бұрын

The NFL is alot more exciting than Rugby Union as Rugby league, exactly for crap like this.

@iluvmusicqwe

3 ай бұрын

Nfl has millions watching because they know how to make a spectical of the game and attract everyone to watch. Rugby is run and supported by dullard snobs

@iluvmusicqwe

3 ай бұрын

Nfl is massively popular and successful and has millions watching because they know how to make a spectical of the game and attract as many people from all walls of life to watch. Rugby is run by and supported by (majority of rugby fans) boring, elitist snobs

@mariadanielalavia8877

2 ай бұрын

@@mysteryhombre81 have you ever watched an NFL match? it's like it's scrum day all day.

@mysteryhombre81

2 ай бұрын

​@@mariadanielalavia8877I've watched thousands of hours of NFL probably. And it's not quite like that, it's so tactical u run routes, blocks schemes individual feats of athleticism. It has way more mass appeal. The main reason alot of people my age, don't watch or turned off rugby is the games rules make it miss some kind of step in watchability. A good mate who played, his whole childhood into being a young adult. Told me he doesn't watch anymore. He now finds it too slow and convoluted. Colin from Eggchasers kid who plays doesn't watch. This comes from a place of luv, but rugby union needs to make itself a funner more dynamic games if it is to survive.

Wait, what? When did THAT become the law? That is BS!

Who are these guys again? How many world cups have they won again?