The Donkey Kong that Nintendo Forgot

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There are bucketloads of Donkey Kong characters at this point. DK, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, FUNKY KONG. But, there's one Kong that Nintendo seem to have forgotten in recent years. Today we'll investigate where the character came from, and what happened to them!
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Sources
- web.archive.org/web/200612100... - history of dk jr
- www.nintendo.com/super-nes-cl... - how super mario kart characters were chosen
- www.suppermariobroth.com/post...
- tcrf.net/Proto:Mario_Kart:_Do...

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  • @ThomasGameDocs
    @ThomasGameDocs4 жыл бұрын

    Follow me on Twitter! - twitter.com/thomasgdocs

  • @andrewgarcia1664

    @andrewgarcia1664

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Game Docs ok

  • @TrustedTexan

    @TrustedTexan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Game Docs if you don’t follow on twitter you will become the forgotten Kong!

  • @spacepawdity4973

    @spacepawdity4973

    4 жыл бұрын

    W... what if I don’t have twitter?

  • @TrustedTexan

    @TrustedTexan

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's Kitty time to install

  • @jesusramos2910

    @jesusramos2910

    4 жыл бұрын

    Modern dk isn’t the old dk the old dk is cranky and the modern one is his grandson

  • @shuumatsunojoshua
    @shuumatsunojoshua4 жыл бұрын

    He has no style, he has no grace I didn't know who he was in the first place

  • @ghostly-toaster3766

    @ghostly-toaster3766

    4 жыл бұрын

    joshy the scrub he can inflate just like a balloon

  • @epicsmg3740

    @epicsmg3740

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ghostly-toaster3766 this unknown kong just digs his tune

  • @epicsmg3740

    @epicsmg3740

    4 жыл бұрын

    shouldn't have commented that but keeping it anyways

  • @ramsbottom4745

    @ramsbottom4745

    4 жыл бұрын

    He has no style, he has no grace This Kong was a big mistake

  • @ABitofEpicness

    @ABitofEpicness

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ramsbottom4745 he has no style, he has no FACE This kong, is a big disgrace

  • @TaxEvasionUS
    @TaxEvasionUS4 жыл бұрын

    The modern Donkey Kong is actually Donkey Kong III, son of Donkey Kong Jr.

  • @eyeccantseeyouu

    @eyeccantseeyouu

    4 жыл бұрын

    Silent Death people say that donkey kong jr is our modern donkey kong and cranky was the og one against mario i can believe that honestly

  • @wobblesama6014

    @wobblesama6014

    4 жыл бұрын

    It is, because the of donkey Kong country has cranky on the og donkey Kong stage

  • @Hokatoman

    @Hokatoman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wobblesama6014 In Donkey Kong Country Cranky says: Who i was Young i have kidnapped beautiful Woman climpe up Buildings and throw barrels at plumbers.

  • @maymaymanufacturer1351

    @maymaymanufacturer1351

    4 жыл бұрын

    So DK Jr Is Diddy Kong and Dixie kong’s grandpa, right ?

  • @re_thinkable8653

    @re_thinkable8653

    4 жыл бұрын

    TARTAR BOI no this comment is wrong. Diddy is from another family of monkeys or gorillas or whatever. The donkey Kong jr from the arcade game and super Mario kart is the modern donkey Kong. The family tree is complicated.

  • @johnathanbarnes8639
    @johnathanbarnes86393 жыл бұрын

    HE'S FINALLY BACK!!! ... in Mario Kart Tour...

  • @guillermogazanol1729

    @guillermogazanol1729

    2 жыл бұрын

    But in 16 bits

  • @ChronoSquare

    @ChronoSquare

    2 жыл бұрын

    both a blessing and a curse I'm surprised they've added somany reskins of characters and haven't added classic veterans of Mario Kart like WIGGLER or QUEEN BEE

  • @CaitlinKoi
    @CaitlinKoi4 жыл бұрын

    I remember him being in Mario Tennis for the N64. I loved that game. I never seemed to be able to unlock Donkey Kong Jr. but I remember going into a tournament, and he was one of the opponents. I was like "that ain't diddy, that ain't donkey, who the hell is that"

  • @ashmander3465

    @ashmander3465

    11 ай бұрын

    That's dks dad

  • @redeadbone9007
    @redeadbone90074 жыл бұрын

    _Calls Modern DK Junior's father_ *DKC FANS SCREAM*

  • @Stratilex

    @Stratilex

    4 жыл бұрын

    picklejuice ikr, I like Thomas’ channel but he missed out on some crucial research

  • @RobinLSL

    @RobinLSL

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Stratilex yep, that's really uncharacteristic of him.

  • @alexasbagel

    @alexasbagel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dk jr is modern dk right?

  • @GilWanderley

    @GilWanderley

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alexasbagel Cranky Kong says he is the original arcade DK, and the current one is his grandson. That makes Jr the current one's father.

  • @FancifulDancingStar

    @FancifulDancingStar

    4 жыл бұрын

    In fairness, Nintendo is incredibly inconsistent about this. They've flip-flopped between modern DK being the original (this is usually done in games where he's alongside Mario), being the son of the original (well, I think only Rare has stated this, and only in DK64), or being the grandson of the original.

  • @martymcfly1312
    @martymcfly13124 жыл бұрын

    Diddy Kong was originally going to be DK Jr but Nintendo thought Rare's design was too different so they asked them to change it to look more like his classic design or keep the design as a new character with Rare choosing the latter.

  • @joshhacker8503
    @joshhacker85034 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr: The Kong who probably regrets fathering his own usurper. Lmao

  • @channel_87
    @channel_874 жыл бұрын

    Title: The Long Lost Kong Me: Kiddy Kong! Thomas: DK Junior Me: *sobs*

  • @SnapGorgon

    @SnapGorgon

    4 жыл бұрын

    We don't speak of Kiddy Kong

  • @ThomasGameDocs

    @ThomasGameDocs

    4 жыл бұрын

    kiddy kong haunts my dreams

  • @channel_87

    @channel_87

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Game Docs sorry but kiddy’s my fav

  • @vincenzomottola7778

    @vincenzomottola7778

    4 жыл бұрын

    What about Fedora Kong

  • @channel_87

    @channel_87

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vincenzo Mottola ah yes the star of the Bible, Fedora Kong

  • @Nightcaat
    @Nightcaat4 жыл бұрын

    “cream of the crop” _7 clone characters shown_

  • @SpoRkManiac

    @SpoRkManiac

    4 жыл бұрын

    that's the joke

  • @RobbWes

    @RobbWes

    4 жыл бұрын

    They should of been made into alternate skins like the 9 yoshi colors

  • @mosey3127

    @mosey3127

    4 жыл бұрын

    crop of the cream

  • @lowercaseletters_

    @lowercaseletters_

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nightcat omg u are everywhere

  • @mrbisshie

    @mrbisshie

    4 жыл бұрын

    We got Pink metal Peach, but adding Diddy Kong was too hard!

  • @PlayerN101
    @PlayerN1013 жыл бұрын

    0:37 The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma *Donkey Kong Jr racing*

  • @pamka6913
    @pamka69134 жыл бұрын

    Found this channel few days ago and already seen almost all videos. I learn a lot of cool stuff from then and they are very well researched. Already one of the best channels i discovered in 2019

  • @Larry
    @Larry4 жыл бұрын

    I thought Nintendo lore was Donkey Kong Jr IS the current Donkey Kong now grown up, and the original Donkey Kong is now Cranky Kong.

  • @ThomasGameDocs

    @ThomasGameDocs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rare flip flopped on it a bunch of times but I believe that Nintendo's current story is that the current DK is the _son_ of DK Jr., and that Cranky Kong/Original DK is the grandfather of current DK. It's all a bit of a confusing mess though, if you ask me haha

  • @petervandebeek5980

    @petervandebeek5980

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, that is indeed correct. The DK Jr. from the 80's is DK from the 90's (and later) and the original DK is Crancy. Play DKC1 again and you'll read it everywhere in Cranky's lines.

  • @maxfigueroa3345

    @maxfigueroa3345

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wrong dk jr is donkey kong’s dad and the donkey in the arcade game is cranky kong

  • @venus3986

    @venus3986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThomasGameDocs lol Edit that not the truth look what I said and look what everyone else is saying

  • @billblaski9523

    @billblaski9523

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@petervandebeek5980 its been retconned. Even in the manual for Donkey Kong Country, it says Cranky is Donkey Kongs father. But somewhere along the line Rare retconned it so Cranky is now Donkey Kong's grandpa

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom4 жыл бұрын

    Clearly, Mario must've still been salty after being defeated by Donkey Kong Jr, so when he joined Mario Kart, Mario saw it as a chance to get rid of him

  • @ThomasGameDocs

    @ThomasGameDocs

    4 жыл бұрын

    mario's a sneaky boi

  • @monugrg

    @monugrg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uh...

  • @dialaforawesome2029

    @dialaforawesome2029

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eliminated

  • @tuxedobird

    @tuxedobird

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nintendo moved on, Mario hasn’t.

  • @bronyazaychik7683

    @bronyazaychik7683

    3 жыл бұрын

    Donkey kong jr is in tour now so i guess marios good now

  • @Smokin420nAZ
    @Smokin420nAZ4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video man! Really enjoy your presentation and the content you have within them! Can't wait for the next!!

  • @MattFlame
    @MattFlame2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why I haven't subscribed until now, but I definitely did after this one. Love your videos man!

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds99174 жыл бұрын

    11:05 Kamek was a placeholder until they got permission from Rare to use their design for DK, actually.

  • @monugrg

    @monugrg

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh

  • @PotatoGawds

    @PotatoGawds

    4 жыл бұрын

    big if true

  • @eyeccantseeyouu

    @eyeccantseeyouu

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can believe that

  • @airplane6417

    @airplane6417

    4 жыл бұрын

    So were finally here, performing for you...

  • @RoofOfAstora

    @RoofOfAstora

    4 жыл бұрын

    The more you know

  • @GmNdWtchr96
    @GmNdWtchr964 жыл бұрын

    A few missing details: DK Jr was supposed to be in DKC1, but Rare's redesign was so drastic that Nintendo made them turn this design into a new character, Diddy Kong. Also, DK Jr. was a Mystery Mushroom costume in Mario Maker 1.

  • @MrJWTH

    @MrJWTH

    3 жыл бұрын

    And he stared in a math game for the NES.

  • @crystalalumina

    @crystalalumina

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrJWTH didn't Donkey Kong Jr. Math came AFTER DK jr.'s debut on Donkey Kong Jr. (NES/Arcade game)

  • @PhantomOfficial07

    @PhantomOfficial07

    Жыл бұрын

    @@crystalalumina Yeah but he still starred in math

  • @djr.bklyn.ny.

    @djr.bklyn.ny.

    Жыл бұрын

    And MKT

  • @darrenmacqueen9884

    @darrenmacqueen9884

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't know this. Honestly, I'd have preferred they just say Diddy Kong is DK Jr. It's weird that we haven't seen DK Jr in any of the main Donkey Kong games, and now Nintendo are the ones responsible for Diddy becoming more widely known than their own creation. They should retcon it and say Diddy Kong was the one that starred in DK Jr, just like Jumpman is now called Mario. King Koopa is now Bowser, Princess Toadstool now Peach. They've changed names many times, DK Jr can now be Diddy Kong. And he wasn't really DK's son. That was never outright stated within the games anyway, so it's fine.

  • @crumstopher
    @crumstopher4 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong Junior: you took everything from me Nintendo: I don't even know who you are

  • @Wolf-ge7iz
    @Wolf-ge7iz2 жыл бұрын

    You no got me questioning every character’s background that I watch! Funny, interesting and a little sad. Apparently Goofy had a wife, but she passed away do to untold circumstances. Thank you! Love your videos by the way!

  • @barrybulletkin901
    @barrybulletkin9014 жыл бұрын

    Never thought I’d hear sexy midriff and donkey Kong in the same sentence

  • @BirdieSenpai

    @BirdieSenpai

    4 жыл бұрын

    Never have I needed to hear something so badly and not known it until I heard it.

  • @kanzakiloveless7031

    @kanzakiloveless7031

    4 жыл бұрын

    *MAX NUT*

  • @Kurostyle21

    @Kurostyle21

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@BirdieSenpai DBZA Vegeta is a wonderful thing to quote

  • @Typhoon1620

    @Typhoon1620

    4 жыл бұрын

    What’s funny is that I saw this comment seconds before it came up

  • @rezahydra
    @rezahydra4 жыл бұрын

    Knew instantly this was about DK Jr.

  • @LandaPanda8

    @LandaPanda8

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @nightmare6186

    @nightmare6186

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @eddie0252

    @eddie0252

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @Seab3551

    @Seab3551

    4 жыл бұрын

    ReZaHydra or lanky

  • @rezahydra

    @rezahydra

    4 жыл бұрын

    @RiceCakes Nobody forgot that Kong as HE HAS NO STYLE HE HAS NO GRACE HU HU HU HU HUH THIS KONG HAS A FUNNY FACE

  • @Ougerosity598
    @Ougerosity5982 жыл бұрын

    I'm loving this ever-so-slightly less professional, more jovial Mr. Docs 😂

  • @josearmando9933
    @josearmando99334 жыл бұрын

    your videos are always interesting for me, no joke! you make the best contents. keep it up!

  • @i.m.evilhomer5084
    @i.m.evilhomer50844 жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact: DK Jr's model for Mario Kart Double Dash was used as the beta models for the helper monkeys from Donkey Kong Jungle Beat.

  • @dannyorange9023

    @dannyorange9023

    4 жыл бұрын

    This' more interesting than anything mentioned in this entire video

  • @twilliamspro
    @twilliamspro4 жыл бұрын

    I like the fan theory that DK Jr is todays DK as OG DK has died or become cranky Mario of today is OG Jump Man's Son

  • @mattpietropaoli835

    @mattpietropaoli835

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure that first statement is canon, as in OG DK became Cranky Kong and DK Jr. is the DK we see in games today with Diddy and company.

  • @jesusramos2910

    @jesusramos2910

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nintendo confirmed that modern dk is crankys grand son, it’s not a fan theory the video is just wrong when it says that modern dk is jrs father

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jesusramos2910 And because of that, that means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

  • @jesusramos2910

    @jesusramos2910

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samofford5919 darn, foiled again, curse you math

  • @onepiece190993

    @onepiece190993

    4 жыл бұрын

    The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races.

  • @HippoEatTortoise
    @HippoEatTortoise4 жыл бұрын

    0:53 a,b,c. Shows numbers.

  • @Hockeybro42
    @Hockeybro42 Жыл бұрын

    Even when i watch a TGD video 5 times, I still learn more things!

  • @mrhappy623
    @mrhappy6234 жыл бұрын

    According to the Kong family tree, Donkey Kong Jr. is actually Donkey Kong’s father. The original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong, who is Donkey Kong’s grandfather, thus showing that his father must’ve been Donkey Kong Jr.

  • @anishthefish2439

    @anishthefish2439

    4 жыл бұрын

    donkey kong jr abandoned dk.

  • @AymenZero

    @AymenZero

    3 жыл бұрын

    No please. Just no.

  • @poweroffriendship2.0

    @poweroffriendship2.0

    2 жыл бұрын

    If that's so, then the modern Donkey Kong we all know and love would've been called Donkey Kong III.

  • @larniieplayz6285

    @larniieplayz6285

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AymenZero what’s wrong?

  • @larniieplayz6285

    @larniieplayz6285

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@poweroffriendship2.0 not necessarily

  • @jacknation1141
    @jacknation11414 жыл бұрын

    6:06 Yes, Mario wears 2 pairs of overalls at once

  • @NickFamzi

    @NickFamzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least Mario (SNES) is finally in Tour.

  • @DiagonalTanooki

    @DiagonalTanooki

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NickFamzi and so is dk jr!

  • @NickFamzi

    @NickFamzi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DiagonalTanooki Oh holy you are right, I mean I commented that comment around ten months ago and I did forget to mention Donkey Kong Jr. (SNES) as well, but thanks for replying Diagonal Mario as at least DK Jr. (SNES) gets mentioned here! I'm still hoping for 3D model of DK Jr. to finally appear in Mario Kart Tour, future new Super Mario games, new Donkey Kong games, and more on soon in the future as well!

  • @WackMaDino
    @WackMaDino4 жыл бұрын

    why is the donkey kong family tree so needlessly complicated

  • @cryptidliam8452

    @cryptidliam8452

    4 жыл бұрын

    WackMaDino pretty sure dk Jnr is donkey kong and the original donkey kong was is kranky Kong

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@cryptidliam8452 The original DK was Cranky, then DK Jr., then the modern DK, named Donkey Kong Jr. II

  • @les5247

    @les5247

    4 жыл бұрын

    I spent an entire day at school constructing a family tree graphic and i'm not done yet.

  • @dippin4dots

    @dippin4dots

    4 жыл бұрын

    WackMaDino they are stuck on a singular island, how can you not expect an Alabama slamma!

  • @oatjuice5921

    @oatjuice5921

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@headcrab4 you know that you can post youtube links, right?

  • @VideoJamesNZ
    @VideoJamesNZ4 жыл бұрын

    I sure hope DK Jr gets his time in the spotlight again 😦 makes me feel kinda sad.

  • @SuperbitGamer-db6iw

    @SuperbitGamer-db6iw

    Жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @Kictor
    @Kictor4 жыл бұрын

    This was a great video, I loved the secret ending!

  • @BulletBillSoilder
    @BulletBillSoilder4 жыл бұрын

    Correction, corrections, dodododo: The DK we've had in MK64 onward (technically DKC 1 onward) is actually the DK from Donkey Kong Country and not the OG DK, that DK we have in this modern era is the son of DK Jr, and the grandson of the original DK, who is now: Cranky Kong. So really, DK Jr is rooting for his son after time traveling into the future.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    YES! Thank you! A small fun fact for another who knows the truth, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

  • @seandwalsh3

    @seandwalsh3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jacques Offah Junior (II) from math is pink and otherwise identical to Jr. in every other way. I’m pretty sure he’s not modern day Donkey Kong.

  • @deadlive3212

    @deadlive3212

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eggman Robotnik modern Donkey Kongs name is actually Donkey Kong the third.

  • @bert7651

    @bert7651

    3 жыл бұрын

    time travel... just admit that donkey kong still has a son that just isnt used in games anymore.

  • @BorgztheDutchCyborg

    @BorgztheDutchCyborg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@seandwalsh3 hey... I remember you! You're that Mario lore guru I argued with on Twitter!

  • @sethy804
    @sethy8044 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure I'm not the only person to point this out, but current DK is not the original DK, Cranky Kong is. DK is Jr's son!

  • @AymenZero
    @AymenZero3 жыл бұрын

    Is it me or is it satisfying to look at the super Mario all starts in the tiny TV in miyamoto's desk?

  • @ffburger101
    @ffburger1014 жыл бұрын

    This videos ending made me very happy thank you very much

  • @geoleo965
    @geoleo9654 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't DK Junior be the present Donkey Kong we know nowadays? *EDIT #1-* I could swear that it was already established with the SNES game that Cranky Kong would be the old school Donkey Kong. *EDIT #2-* It seems that Nintendo hasn't officially cleared up if the present DK is Cranky's son or grandson. Should have started with such important clarification in the video.

  • @mattpietropaoli835

    @mattpietropaoli835

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are correct, it's right there in the opening for DKC

  • @geoleo965

    @geoleo965

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mattpietropaoli835 So... This video was a irrelevant to begin with, and BOY what a clickbait with its false title.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr. is Cranky's son. Cranky is the original DK. The modern DK, however, is Cranky's grandson, not his son, which means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

  • @geoleo965

    @geoleo965

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samofford5919 Source, please?

  • @BirdieSenpai

    @BirdieSenpai

    4 жыл бұрын

    The primary debate on the topic comes from "Is the modern Donkey Kong the son or the grandson of Cranky Kong?" Some games, like the Donkey Kong Country games and others refer to DK as Cranky's grandson. Notably, DK64 refers to him as Cranky's son. Some games, like Mario Superstar Baseball and Brawl refer to him as Cranky's descendant (or, more specifically, refer to Cranky as DK's ancestor). Nintendo really hasn't helped the debate any, as thev're been quite inconsistent on the topic, themselves. The Mario vs. Donkey Kong series acts as though modern DK has always been the DK of the 1981 classic, for example. It's a huge mess, and we've never really received any definitive, official answer that puts the debate to rest and clarifies all the inconsistencies and contradictions. Of course, since these are games primarily aimed at children to enjoy, we can't really expect the company to put much stock into the lore and consistency, since children generally don't care enough about such matters to dwell on, much less debate, them, they way we older fans seeking to make things make more sense do.

  • @weinerlover6972
    @weinerlover69724 жыл бұрын

    CLARIFICATION: Dk Jr is actually DK's father. Cranky Kong is the Kong in the original arcade game, Jr is the one in Jr, and Modern DK (aka DK III) is the one featured in 64 onwards.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Quick correction, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

  • @weinerlover6972

    @weinerlover6972

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samofford5919 Not canon

  • @blinkingberry9591

    @blinkingberry9591

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then does that mean Cranky is DK's Grandpa after all?

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@blinkingberry9591 yes

  • @koreyjeffers6963
    @koreyjeffers69634 жыл бұрын

    How do you not have more subs? Your content is original, fun, informative and more. I'm legit confused. So many hack frauds on youtube just regurgitate other peoples content and they have a million subs. I'm pissed for you bro. Keep up the good work

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs4 жыл бұрын

    Going through the comments I've had to realise that Donkey Kong has an extensive lore to its games on par with Dark Souls series. Damn Nintendo... just sneaking this stuff in. First with the Kirby games being super freaking dark... now with extensive Donkey Kong lore.

  • @TheMadCroctor
    @TheMadCroctor4 жыл бұрын

    I think it's pretty simple, the Donkey Kong Country series didn't exist yet when Super Mario Kart was in development and before those games happened Donkey Kong characters never left the arcade and therefore Donkey Kong wasn't part of the main Mario cast yet. Adding Donkey Kong Jr. to the game was nothing more than a retro throwback in 1992 people probably got about the same feeling back in the day as people got when characters like the Ice Climbers or the Duck Hunt Duo were added to Smash Bros Maybe it's hard to imagine, but Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. were on the same level during Super Mario Kart's development, and DK Jr. was probably chosen because he was more relevant as his game was newer (and just like Miyamoto stated, it was his 10th anniversary)

  • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli

    @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also, DK Jr. was always a playable character, while DK was never a playable character.

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai4 жыл бұрын

    As someone whose favorite part of Nintendo EVER is Donkey Kong Jr. I appreciate your making this video and giving spotlight to my favorite underrated and forgotten character ever so much! When I found out years ago that DK Jr. was going to be in Double Dash but got replaced, I was absolutely livid initially. I don't have anything against Diddy and I adore him immensely, but finding out that my favorite part of Nintendo's history almost made it into my favorite game of the decade was like a banana slamma to the face. Also, if I wasn't already subscribed, your coughing over the abominations that are MORE worthless derivatives of Mario and Peach at the beginning of the video definitely would have caused me to subscribe, lol.

  • @hobossuck2

    @hobossuck2

    4 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr. being left out by nintendo pisses me off more than any other forgotten Mario character. While characters like waluigi are at least consistent in spin off appearances, characters like birdo and spike are included in the games sparingly but still being used over the years, Pauline and King K Rool finally coming back into relevancy after many years of rarely appearing and characters like Wart and Geno who while it would be cool to see them return were only used once or twice so they're kinda not as close to us as other Mario characters. DK Jr was the only one who was just left out by Nintendo in the rain right after he had gotten his chance like wtf they actually went out of their way to remove him from double dash. And don't give me that DK jr is modern DK so he can't be in the games with him bullshit cause baby characters like baby mario appear alongside their adult counterparts in spin off games all the time. I don't hate Diddy though but he just doesn't cut it for me. He seems too cool and hip whereas DK Jr appears to be a more playful and cute child gorilla

  • @CaptainCoolzCT-

    @CaptainCoolzCT-

    4 жыл бұрын

    The guy says 'darling' too much, and I know that for a fact because where he's from here in England, people don’t say that so much... he’s sing a stereotype to boost his popularity...

  • @theneonchimpchannel9095
    @theneonchimpchannel90954 жыл бұрын

    It appears to be a bit more complicated. The Donkey Kong we know now, from Donkey Kong Country onwards is actually Donkey Kong the 3rd, as he is the grandson of Cranky Kong, the original Donkey Kong. This means that Junior is actually cheering on his son. There are several theories as to what happened to him. One being that he died, leaving Cranky to raise the modern Donkey Kong. However, it could be that they thought it was too confusing to have Donkey Kong's dad be referred to as Junior. There was a mysterious character called Fedora Kong that was going to be in Country but was left out. Some believe that this is the grown up Junior. I've personally developed my own theory. Look at what he's wearing...a leotard. What if Junior was a gymnast? This would also explain as to why he was home schooled in Donkey Kong Junior Maths. Instead of following in the family business, he got a scholarship to some fancy college with a strong gymnastics program and is now a successful gymnastics coach, perhaps at his old college. This would explain his absence and why DK3 was raised by his grandparents as Junior was busy with his gymnastics career, maybe he even competed at the Olympics or whatever the Kong equivalent might be. This would also explain why his most recent appearances have been sports based. He does love his son, but he was away a lot and his skill set doesn't fit with the family's adventuring.

  • @liambaron7112
    @liambaron7112 Жыл бұрын

    Your video about Mario's 3rd brother led me to your video about Bowser's brother, which led me to this video. Feels strange to hear your old intro haha.

  • @HeliosimWorld
    @HeliosimWorld4 жыл бұрын

    3:59 Ridley:Is this my people?

  • @Peaman42

    @Peaman42

    3 жыл бұрын

    I saw this as that came on and was about to comment that as well

  • @mrf4ncyp4nts
    @mrf4ncyp4nts4 жыл бұрын

    Okay but what about Swanky Kong, hm? Did you forget about him?

  • @airplane6417

    @airplane6417

    4 жыл бұрын

    Funky, Lanky, Wrinkly, Kiddy, Tiny, Chunky, and Candy?

  • @carlosemilio5180

    @carlosemilio5180

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airplane6417 the first and last onesstill get normal representation. I really wanna see what happened to chunky and kiddy

  • @melisscholten5047

    @melisscholten5047

    2 жыл бұрын

    THERE ARE SO MUCH KONGS! I THINK THE NEXT ONE IS KING KONG THE SON OF DK! OR BIGFOOT AND YETI Tbh...

  • @jackiexkh
    @jackiexkh4 жыл бұрын

    Diddy Kong didn't just replace DK Jr. in Mario Kart: Double Dash, but in Donkey Kong Country as well. Diddy was initially meant to just be Rare's redesign for Jr., but Nintendo didn't like how different he looked, and told them they had to either keep the original design, or just make the redesign a new character entirely, to which they did the latter. The modern-day Donkey Kong introduced in DKC is actually DK Jr.'s son, with the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game now being known as the elderly Cranky Kong.

  • @literallywhy6162
    @literallywhy61624 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure there’s a million comments of this already but that’s not the OG DK in MK64, that’s his grandson, DK jr’s son. OG DK goes by Cranky Kong now

  • @FlourishPorridge

    @FlourishPorridge

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought he was dk jr - not just his son.

  • @chuckarin1365

    @chuckarin1365

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@FlourishPorridge DK Jr. is indeed the Father of Modern DK.

  • @fiQmeister
    @fiQmeister4 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering about this for a while and this video has answered all my questions. Much love, keep up the good work.

  • @bahooneyonastick
    @bahooneyonastick4 жыл бұрын

    Your narration is perfect. I’m sure you have a script but your delivery is very natural and candid. You create great work. I’m such a huge fan!

  • @Garlic227
    @Garlic2274 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Kong junior: I Guess Nintendo forgot me. Kiddy Kong: You stole a title from me.

  • @thewapikmin280
    @thewapikmin2804 жыл бұрын

    I knew it's be about DKJR. But there's also Kiddy, Chunky and Lanky Kong then Ninja, Dread and Karate Kong from the spin-offs like 1 or 2 Kongs from SMRPG, Candy Kong and Swanky Kong have slowly disappeared and I don't think we've seen Wrinkly or Tiny for awhile either.

  • @skploom
    @skploom4 жыл бұрын

    I thought you were gonna talk about chained kong, a prisoner of war

  • @imdone8243

    @imdone8243

    4 жыл бұрын

    More info

  • @dancingmariobros7434

    @dancingmariobros7434

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@imdone8243 I believe he is from Mario RPG

  • @awkwardsilence4427

    @awkwardsilence4427

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm done He’s a common enemy you can encounter/fight in the later portions of Super Mario RPG. Basically imagine the DKC DK model, but instead of a tie he has metal constraints. donkeykong.fandom.com/wiki/Chained_Kong

  • @NickFamzi

    @NickFamzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha yes the one from Super Mario RPG xD I can imagine him being in Mario Kart Tour xD

  • @AymenZero

    @AymenZero

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that was considered a dk, he's probably related to gorella from forest maze or something...

  • @vuppet5684
    @vuppet56844 жыл бұрын

    But does this kong have style, or grace, or some sort of funny face?

  • @rectar_
    @rectar_3 жыл бұрын

    0:42 When the imposter is sus

  • @oldaccount221

    @oldaccount221

    3 жыл бұрын

    AMOGUS

  • @ChickenNEO

    @ChickenNEO

    2 жыл бұрын

    SUSSY

  • @JackAttackgamingXD
    @JackAttackgamingXD2 жыл бұрын

    A little early for Donkey Kong December but good vid

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds99174 жыл бұрын

    Theories say that DK Jr. died in the banana wars before the events if DKC, and that he is the DK we all know’s father.

  • @happycamperds9917

    @happycamperds9917

    4 жыл бұрын

    referral madness Exactly.

  • @seandwalsh3

    @seandwalsh3

    4 жыл бұрын

    DekuShrub 99 I think you mean the Kremean War

  • @happycamperds9917

    @happycamperds9917

    4 жыл бұрын

    Seán Walsh The theories say that they are one and the same.

  • @SurandeDadstorm
    @SurandeDadstorm4 жыл бұрын

    If it hadn't been for Donkey Kong Jr. I'd been married a long time ago

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Where did he come from, where did he go? Where did he come from, Donkey Kong Jr.?

  • @coolj4334

    @coolj4334

    2 жыл бұрын

    Where did you come from, where did you go? Where did you come from, Donkey Kong Jr.?

  • @lyandraangel
    @lyandraangel Жыл бұрын

    A nice video, though like many other commenters I would have liked it better had you acknowledged the DKC lore, which has Cranky as the original Donkey Kong, and the Donkey Kong Country DK as his grandson, making Junior likely to be DK's father.

  • @AffyMoon
    @AffyMoon4 жыл бұрын

    I played DK jr when I was very small and I loved the game back then

  • @quackersencheese5081
    @quackersencheese50814 жыл бұрын

    Correction: Many times, you say that the Donkey Kong in Mario Kart is DK Junior's father. In reality, this Donkey Kong appears to be the same from Donkey Kong Country, which is Donkey Kong the Third. As Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong, and thus DK Junior's father. DK Junior is the father of Donkey Kong the Third, it seems. And while Cranky Kong did wear a tie in Donkey Kong for the gameboy, he still looked different than the modern day Donkey Kong.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Quick correction, modern DK's full name is Donkey Kong Jr. II. This can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math.

  • @seandwalsh3

    @seandwalsh3

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jacques Offah there is no proof that Jr. (II) from math is Donkey Kong the Third. Junior (II) looks nothing like DKIII and is actually identical in appearance to Jr., aside from his pink colouration.

  • @byte287
    @byte2874 жыл бұрын

    Saw him on the NES library for the switch, and saw him on the original Mario Kart on the SNES library. I was wondering who he was, so thanks!

  • @will_marvin
    @will_marvin2 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes thomas saying “Mario” will snap me awake in the middle of the night

  • @Ksrwilhelm
    @Ksrwilhelm4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting video! I always imagined that the Donkey Kong seen in the Rare-games was DK Junior, with Cranky being the Donkey Kong from the original game.

  • @chuckarin1365

    @chuckarin1365

    4 жыл бұрын

    Officially, Original DK (Cranky) is the Father of DK Jr. and the Grandfather of Rare's Modern DK.

  • @Ksrwilhelm

    @Ksrwilhelm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Damn. DK lore too deep.

  • @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth
    @PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth4 жыл бұрын

    8:34 Woah. I *love* that DK design. Oddly endearing. Really wish they used it more!

  • @eggnog4266

    @eggnog4266

    4 жыл бұрын

    Donkey Chonk

  • @vincenzomottola7778
    @vincenzomottola77784 жыл бұрын

    I originally thought it was going to be Fedora Kong, the scrapped Donkey Kong Land character. Fedora Kong is an enigma, his purpose is unknown.

  • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is Fedora Kong the Kong that wears a tuxedo in the cartoon?

  • @vincenzomottola7778

    @vincenzomottola7778

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 most likely not

  • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@vincenzomottola7778 Seriously, who is he?

  • @vincenzomottola7778

    @vincenzomottola7778

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 we don't have a definitive answer, only the DKL Character Designers would know who Fedora Kong really was.

  • @anishthefish2439

    @anishthefish2439

    4 жыл бұрын

    there is a theory that donkey kong jr is fedora kong. people say that donkey kong jr died in the banana wars and this theory states that donkey kong jr went into hiding and didn't actually die and now wears a fedora. this is because a fedora symbolizes father hood which would explain donkey kong jr being the donkey kong nows father.

  • @joelou
    @joelou2 жыл бұрын

    This channel is quickly becoming one of my favs. Do you have a Patreon?

  • @roaringthunder115
    @roaringthunder1154 жыл бұрын

    He’s an enigma of the bunch, I don’t know him well. DK’s family tree, is confusing as hell.

  • @Mom-cf2je
    @Mom-cf2je4 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr should be the fifth playable kong when the next DKC game comes out

  • @onepiece190993
    @onepiece1909934 жыл бұрын

    The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races

  • @johns80schick
    @johns80schick Жыл бұрын

    The effort put in to find a crumb of evidence that DK jr still existed made me chuckle. Like seriously scuba through beta, or zooming in on fans in a stadium on a version of Mario kart lol

  • @arcanepool
    @arcanepool4 жыл бұрын

    8:26 i thought it was some kind of design limitation, where Donkey Kong was too big to fit on a 32x32 space, but not this...

  • @akiyouma8014
    @akiyouma80144 жыл бұрын

    0:50 missed opportunity for where did he come from, where did he go? Great video btw

  • @SJC82
    @SJC824 жыл бұрын

    DK Jr. never left. He grew up and became the current Donkey Kong. So in a way, he's been in every Mario Kart.

  • @yomama5419

    @yomama5419

    4 жыл бұрын

    Huh? The current DK is DK Jr.'s son

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Modern DK is old DK (Cranky)'s grandson, making DK Jr. his dad. Modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

  • @SJC82

    @SJC82

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@yomama5419 no, the current DK IS DK Jr. DK from the original Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong I think

  • @yomama5419

    @yomama5419

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SJC82 Definitely no because Donkey Kong from Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong who's his grandfather

  • @onepiece190993

    @onepiece190993

    4 жыл бұрын

    The OG DK is Cranky Kong, DKJR is his son and (New)DK is his grandson. And Baby DK from Super Sluggers and Yoshi's Island DS is the (New) DK when he was a baby. And since baby Mario is racing with his future self (Ala Partners in Time), it isn't strange for DKJR to appear in the future to see the races

  • @TheOGNoName
    @TheOGNoName4 жыл бұрын

    I was really hoping for kiddy kong when i clicked. DKC 3 is and probably always will be #1 on my top video games of all time, just above 2 and 1. Kiddy needs some love with his little pajama feet hanging off.

  • @majedalrasheed3314
    @majedalrasheed33144 жыл бұрын

    Thomas:there could have been heritage in a Mario kart game Bowser and bowser jr:Am I not heritage to you?

  • @elhugo13
    @elhugo134 жыл бұрын

    Wait, wasn't the original DK now cranky kong, and DK jr is the father of the modern DK? so there are three totals Donkey kongs, Don't remember where i heard that though.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is the truth! Do not listen to the lies! I shall share a fun fact with you, The modern DK's full name is 'Donkey Kong Jr. II' which can be found in Donkey Kong Jr. Math

  • @evilmrbeaver571

    @evilmrbeaver571

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samofford5919 Maybe Donkey Kong Junior II grew up to be Funky Kong. In Donkey Kong Country Funky Kong and Donkey Kong use the same character models

  • @anishthefish2439

    @anishthefish2439

    4 жыл бұрын

    you might have heard it from the leaderboard's video

  • @pearcyjackson280
    @pearcyjackson2804 жыл бұрын

    I knew about DK Jr because theres a local arcade that has it on one of those 10 in 1 machines. Also Billy Mitchell and his "legit" swapping of the Donkey Kong and Donkey King Jr arcade boards

  • @scottandrewhutchins
    @scottandrewhutchins3 жыл бұрын

    It must be your age. Donkey Kong Junior was huge. He had a TV series where he rode around with a Fonz knockoff in a motorcycle sidecar, a breakfast cereal, all sorts of memorabilia.

  • @Chibekoe
    @Chibekoe4 жыл бұрын

    In the Donkey Kong Country series, Donkey Kong as you know him, is actually Donkey Kong Jr. all grown up. The original Donkey Kong is actually Cranky Kong!

  • @chuckarin1365

    @chuckarin1365

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're half-correct, officially Original DK is stated to be the *Grandfather* of Modern DK making Adult DK Jr. the Father of Modern DK (DK the 3rd). The only times Adult DK Jr. appeared was in Super Mario Kart and Mario's Tennis (Virtual Boy).

  • @sir_ian3340
    @sir_ian33404 жыл бұрын

    Thomas time!

  • @vittoman4392

    @vittoman4392

    3 жыл бұрын

    * Tarataratatatatataaan! * *Oh yeah,Thomas Time!*

  • @dario8539
    @dario85394 жыл бұрын

    At least DK jr was remembered in smash, also Thomas Time!

  • @cydonyn
    @cydonyn3 жыл бұрын

    This reminded me of the game theorists video, that the current Donky Kong(From Donky Kong Country forward) is actually Donky Kong Jr. (Due to the life span of gorillas) The orginal Donky Kong had passed by the time mario kart would have come out, then in the theory of course, that means that every subsequent appearence of Donky Kong was actually DK Jr. having Dropped the Jr. Since His father had passed. (If i recal the theory correctly anyway, It's just a theory, of course, but an interesting one, and this video just reminded me of it)

  • @V3n0m._.29
    @V3n0m._.292 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if DK Junior pulled a Turbo like in Wreck it Ralph, and when his arcade machine was getting unplugged he jumped in Mario Kart . And then when he wanted some more action, he jumped into Mario Kart Double Dash, that’s when he realized he wasn’t in the roster so he got a foam cutout of himself, put it in the crowd. Then he reprogrammed himself to look like diddy kong, and ripped apart the og diddy kongs game files and made him a glitch.

  • @treeman73272
    @treeman732724 жыл бұрын

    Actually DK JR is current DK's father

  • @Ammvnition
    @Ammvnition4 жыл бұрын

    6:27 the answer is Samus ;)

  • @VGMStudios33

    @VGMStudios33

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bullet Shooty i know right! Poor samus doesn't get much love.

  • @Ammvnition

    @Ammvnition

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@VGMStudios33 She truly is a forgotten character from the back side hahaha

  • @guillermogazanol1729

    @guillermogazanol1729

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Ammvnition but is back in Metroid dread

  • @dodsonbrian
    @dodsonbrian3 жыл бұрын

    I know this video came out before this happened but D.K. Jr. is playable in Mariokart TOUR and his name in the game is Donkey Kong Jr. (S.N.E.S.) with him have a 16-bit design

  • @yoshimasterleader
    @yoshimasterleader3 жыл бұрын

    I'm quite fond of Mario's character in the Original Donkey Kong. He was the Everyman part of the working class. He would push himself to the limit to protect the ones he loves and to get the job done. His actions are understandable in Donkey Kong Jr. After the events of Donkey Kong Mario was not only angry at DK for kidnapping his girlfriend but he saw him as a threat and decided perhaps tasked to capture DK to make sure that he would never kidnap again. He would stop anybody from freeing him even a baby gorilla. Anger and wanting revenge are human emotions and Mario having those made him more human. Later he probably regret what he did. Perhaps his way to make up for it was through Mario Kart. Today he's mostly a blank slate to almost a disturbing level.

  • @JaretOnYoutube
    @JaretOnYoutube4 жыл бұрын

    Prediction: it’s Donkey Kong Junior; from the game Donkey Kong Junior.

  • @ThomasGameDocs

    @ThomasGameDocs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ding ding ding! Correct!

  • @vincentjonesvr

    @vincentjonesvr

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Chrisanity Ok He's literally DK. Original DK is Cranky Kong, and the main DK we know is DKJR.

  • @samofford5919

    @samofford5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@vincentjonesvr The modern DK is Cranky's grandson, not his son, which means that modern DK is Donkey Kong Jr. II from Donkey Kong Jr. Math

  • @NimhLabs

    @NimhLabs

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samofford5919 I see somebody else is studied on the extensive Donkey Kong lore that exists.

  • @burnv06

    @burnv06

    4 жыл бұрын

    I sense somebody watched the video first to look smart XD

  • @alexvalois7778
    @alexvalois77784 жыл бұрын

    6:06 No way, Mario wears overalls? That's crazy lmao

  • @Malyt538

    @Malyt538

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards
    @plsdontbanmeagainyoulibtards3 жыл бұрын

    that's one hell of a lighting set up. looks like it's the middle of the day lmao.

  • @ComplexGMD
    @ComplexGMD3 жыл бұрын

    Finally, I'm finally knowing about DK Jr.

  • @irumamiu
    @irumamiu4 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos!!

  • @ThomasGameDocs

    @ThomasGameDocs

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! :)

  • @bigtimenintendogamer8854
    @bigtimenintendogamer88544 жыл бұрын

    Dk junior is Donkey Kong’s (country) dad

  • @daniellep.4649

    @daniellep.4649

    3 жыл бұрын

    no it is cranky kong

  • @daniellep.4649

    @daniellep.4649

    3 жыл бұрын

    donkey jr is diddy kong

  • @A_G_H_A_N_I_M
    @A_G_H_A_N_I_M4 жыл бұрын

    The Dk - Dk Jr snafu has already been pointed out but I think for SMK, Nintendo chose Jr. as Donkey Kong himself wasn't exactly "popular" until the release of DKC two years later. Jr. was really the only other DK protagonist outside of Mario at the time who is obviously the overall series namesake.

  • @yoshidude64595
    @yoshidude645954 жыл бұрын

    If I'm not mistaken, the donkey Kong from the arcades is actually Cranky Kong in modern games, and the character we know as Donkey Kong is Donkey Kong III

  • @romajimamulo
    @romajimamulo4 жыл бұрын

    I know you say "father", but it's probably "son" since the primary depiction of DK now, the one from adventure, is the grandson of arcade game DK.

  • @AndrevusWhitetail
    @AndrevusWhitetail4 жыл бұрын

    Here's the thing though. The Original DK from the arcade game is canonically proven to be Cranky Kong in the DKC Series. The DK we play as in DKC and Mario Kart and other Mario spinoffs is Cranky's Grandson. Donkey Kong Jr. is actually DKC Donkey Kong's father, not him.

  • @evilmrbeaver571

    @evilmrbeaver571

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are both the original Donkey Kong because video games

  • @slicksilentized8442
    @slicksilentized84423 жыл бұрын

    Huge roster? No, when I think of Mariokart, I picture utter despair of losing to 11 different Funky Kongs all at once.

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