The Design Flaw Behind MacBook Pro’s “Stage light” Effect!

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The Touch Bar generation of MacBook Pro always had its quirks, but the thin-at-all-cost design may finally be proving more trouble than it was ever worth. The latest issue to crop up-dubbed “flexgate” by one of our users, Alex-reveals that the compact design for the display’s flex cables is prone to fatigue and failure, leading to a host of display problems that can’t be easily (or cheaply) fixed.
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  • @AmusementLabs
    @AmusementLabs5 жыл бұрын

    A non-replacable flex cable bent around a sharp corner that starts breaking after the warranty expires?... Say it with me: OOOOOFFFFFF COUURRRRRRRSSSEEE.

  • @christiandeuctor3606

    @christiandeuctor3606

    5 жыл бұрын

    *_-OOF-_*

  • @systemofapwne

    @systemofapwne

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice design choice - As always for Apple. Produce excellente devices (hardware + software wise - No doubt!) and make customers "extremely happy". But: Introduce a design flaw, to make the customer pay every 1-2 years the full price for a new device again. Some plebs simply do not and dont want to learn.

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @seicento2tone

    @seicento2tone

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly why I’m getting a Google Pixel 3, can’t take it with this cheaply made Apple shit

  • @rationalityfirst

    @rationalityfirst

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@systemofapwne - excellent devices - design flaw pick one

  • @k1ngjulien_
    @k1ngjulien_5 жыл бұрын

    You really have to "Think Different" to design a laptop with a hardwired displaycable that has to bend around a sharp corner every time you open the device xD

  • @cataria3903

    @cataria3903

    5 жыл бұрын

    "cough planned obsolescence cough" and remember integrating the display cable into the display, making it impossible to replace for 3rd part or user replacements is 100% done to fuck with people, it has 0 other reason :D

  • @kartaloktay

    @kartaloktay

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's pretty crazy that a damaged ribbon cable leads to a 600$ replacement to get the device working again.

  • @SwitchedOnNetwork

    @SwitchedOnNetwork

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like it's not accidental!

  • @hollymolly518

    @hollymolly518

    5 жыл бұрын

    yea i feels like it's design to last a year or so....sales drop they gotta find a way to make people buy new one...

  • @arzolt4765

    @arzolt4765

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@SwitchedOnNetwork Its almost like its just unlucky that this issue appears at the end of the warranty period...

  • @KS-ov1ul
    @KS-ov1ul5 жыл бұрын

    MACBOOK PRO-BLEM

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @wrook4324

    @wrook4324

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much

  • @dharmeshsolanki4354
    @dharmeshsolanki43545 жыл бұрын

    A petition to let them know??? THEY ALREADY KNOW THIS... 😂

  • @schoonerthedog

    @schoonerthedog

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dharmesh Solanki you should read the petition... it’s not about letting them know, it’s to legally extend the warranty

  • @dharmeshsolanki4354

    @dharmeshsolanki4354

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@schoonerthedog bro its just a joke i can't evan afford an apple laptop

  • @JNP232

    @JNP232

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@dharmeshsolanki4354 you don't know what petition even is.

  • @dharmeshsolanki4354

    @dharmeshsolanki4354

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@JNP232 yes i know.....

  • @ClevelandTerry

    @ClevelandTerry

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dylan Greene people don’t read anymore. They just react.

  • @tt2000hp
    @tt2000hp5 жыл бұрын

    this is not a design flaw, this is planned obsolescence

  • @sonny926

    @sonny926

    2 жыл бұрын

    ahhh yes my favourite two words when describing apple design

  • @nomadben
    @nomadben5 жыл бұрын

    Apple's business practices are despicable. I keep hearing about more and more things they've done that make it seem to be getting worse and worse. It's beyond me why so many people continue to blindly support them, no matter what they do.

  • @curbdawg3818

    @curbdawg3818

    5 жыл бұрын

    They will keep doing it until people stop buying their products.

  • @AmusementLabs

    @AmusementLabs

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@curbdawg3818 That's sort of already happening in China. Granted that has more to do with the competition and their lack of innovation, but people there see that they're less about making a reliable and reasonably priced phone and more about designing something to fail so you keep pouring more and more money in.

  • @systemofapwne

    @systemofapwne

    5 жыл бұрын

    They simply make good products (initial hardware state + excellente software support). But if the hardware breaks, they charge for a new device. The customer plebs simply remember their "happy moments" and buy the "updated, overpriced, follow-on device" every 1-2 years - They stay happy by the continuing product-quality and completely disregard the fact, that they are constantly getting ripped off by apple. (Works in other buisinesses too like "light bulbs" but not on the same scale. E.g. LED and conventionals could last decades by technical standards, yet they will break in a few years to keep the companies alive...) Planned obsolescence, a skill, apple really is good in and customers don't complain about...

  • @superstarDJ537

    @superstarDJ537

    5 жыл бұрын

    Airpods are brilliant but they have to be replaced every 18months. Watches are likely to fail after 2 years. Dongles you have to tiptoe about not moving stuff whilst they're plugged in. You have to expect failures on their products, Apple Care is mandatory. Thinkpads usually come with 3 year return to base warranty, someone will literally come to your house and pick it up. You don't have to book an appointment with a 'genius' or whatever. It baffles me that anyone serious still buys these laptops unless they see it as a fashion accessory or must only use FCP.

  • @galihprabasidi8498

    @galihprabasidi8498

    5 жыл бұрын

    Because they are one of the biggest PC manufacturer so there is no way that they make bad design. Right? LOL

  • @user-ju4ve5ft6c
    @user-ju4ve5ft6c5 жыл бұрын

    It’s not a design issue, it’s purposely designed to be broken after the warranty, which is also when they publish the new laptop. It was carefully designed.

  • @bennaambo2716

    @bennaambo2716

    2 жыл бұрын

    bullshit

  • @chickinpop1235

    @chickinpop1235

    6 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @sneedsneed460
    @sneedsneed4605 жыл бұрын

    ATTENTION FLEXGATE SUFFERERS! If you want a fix, here’s what you need to do. First, buy some metal polish. Then, gently rub off a small piece of the oleophobic coating off on your display. Then, take your computer to Apple. They will fix it for free under the oleophobic coating recall, even if the screen has other defects.

  • @Lvlaple4Ever

    @Lvlaple4Ever

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or just don’t buy an overpriced Apple product.

  • @kobedabest

    @kobedabest

    5 жыл бұрын

    lvlaple4Ever This sounds like a better idea!

  • @CyberWaifu

    @CyberWaifu

    5 жыл бұрын

    You use the metal polish to rub off the coating?

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    That wont solve this issue

  • @storino03

    @storino03

    5 жыл бұрын

    It'll come back in a few years. Requires a total redesign of the cable flexing.

  • @ethansworld210
    @ethansworld2102 жыл бұрын

    My 2018 Macbook pro has this issue after 3 years of use. Took it to Genius bar and was charged $678 plus tax to fix it. As an Apple fan, It's sad see the quality of Apple products and service is failing.

  • @MoejiiOsmanTV

    @MoejiiOsmanTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Why the eff would u pay that when you could buy a 15in display off ebay for 200-250 and install yourself..

  • @Fubbel42
    @Fubbel425 жыл бұрын

    Meanwhile I'm watching this on my Jobbs era mid 2010 MacBook Pro that simply refuses to die. Things have changed...

  • @348adilshaikh
    @348adilshaikh5 жыл бұрын

    Dont worry! This will be fixed in the next software update 😎

  • @summushieremiasclarkson4700

    @summushieremiasclarkson4700

    5 жыл бұрын

    @ȘȚɄƑƑɎǾɄ1oo at this point that isn't a risk. Apple fanboys won't even believe this is Apple's fault, "you're bending it too far". To require a fix in the update, the fanboys first have to acknowledge Apple has something to fix, which they won't.

  • @AlexMkd1984

    @AlexMkd1984

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@summushieremiasclarkson4700 because apple customers are stupid blind brainwashed 😂

  • @carholic-sz3qv

    @carholic-sz3qv

    5 жыл бұрын

    @ȘȚɄƑƑɎǾɄ1oo you are the fanboy here he is just trying to make fun and you are butthurt thats pathetic

  • @conf1rmed819

    @conf1rmed819

    5 жыл бұрын

    if you can see things on the screen

  • @treshanremolano159

    @treshanremolano159

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually, this is kind-of hardware problem, not software. In some cases, software updates can't fix hardware problems, it's just temporary remedy. If you making it serious, then fix it...

  • @mindhead_
    @mindhead_2 жыл бұрын

    Fell victim to this issue today on my otherwise flawlessly operating 2017 Macbook Pro. Drove over 250kms round trip to the apple store to be told that the flexgate issue was a rumour and that it would be an $850 fix. Having exclusively used Mac computers since 1999, feels like a punch in the face. Frustrated and computerless. Bring back Steve Jobs!!!!

  • @MoejiiOsmanTV

    @MoejiiOsmanTV

    Жыл бұрын

    Buy a 15in display on ebay for 200 and fix ur self...jesus

  • @mindhead_

    @mindhead_

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MoejiiOsmanTV Oh true? So I can just click the old one off and click the new one in? Thanks heaps for the kind advice, didn't realise it was so straight forward. Appreciate it.

  • @learntonganwithandrew

    @learntonganwithandrew

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@mindhead_ lol

  • @aminm6453
    @aminm64533 жыл бұрын

    I have this issue with a 2018 model (A1989). Always treated it carefully and now the exact same problem occurred. I now have to pay 700€ even though it‘s a known design issue. Soo angry about this customer unfriendly behavior

  • @WRNPR
    @WRNPR5 жыл бұрын

    You’re holding it wrong!!!

  • @samtv19981

    @samtv19981

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wilfredo Rodriguez WTF. If you wouldn’t open your MacBook the Cable wouldn’t be worn out.

  • @ijsbert6174

    @ijsbert6174

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's an iPhone 4 reference @@samtv19981

  • @naimmazmi

    @naimmazmi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... They'll say that you're opening it wrong

  • @GideonLfc

    @GideonLfc

    5 жыл бұрын

    They're actually opening it wrong 😂

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    Accurate

  • @EdwardChen
    @EdwardChen3 жыл бұрын

    Please help me, do you know why my 15inch macbook pro mid 2014 retina display, i notice that the black color become little bit green..and sometimes not greenish . Can i fix it?

  • @dusanskrbic90
    @dusanskrbic905 жыл бұрын

    louis rossmann knew this a long time ago....

  • @jojodroid31

    @jojodroid31

    5 жыл бұрын

    First day it came out probably.

  • @TechnoboxOG

    @TechnoboxOG

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah

  • @jamesisaac7684

    @jamesisaac7684

    5 жыл бұрын

    He made a video about it saying it's impossible to fix it.

  • @IIGrayfoxII

    @IIGrayfoxII

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesisaac7684 How will you get a replacement screen? Apple wont sell you one. You have to buy a new laptop.

  • @unlokia

    @unlokia

    5 жыл бұрын

    So what? He's not that amazing, he just happens to be a LOUD, opinionated prat that can't stop making videos, or getting himself in the news. Just because he's *popular* doesn't mean he's the go-to man for repairs. Many FAR more qualified, more dignified, respectful and mature, experienced engineers exist.

  • @Stuntman707
    @Stuntman7075 жыл бұрын

    Apple knowingly designed this cable as part of the display. Just like how they hold the back on with clips as well as screws. It's all intentional design to make the MacBook more likely to break through increased fragility of the display and excessive force required to remove the back cover.

  • @TheHumble0ne

    @TheHumble0ne

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stuntman707 Just like how the butterfly switch was designed to flex at its thinnest point unlike the traditional scissor switch. It too will succumb to material fatigue. It’s all in line with Cook’s goal to increase services revenue. Jobs never stooped this low.

  • @magsec5

    @magsec5

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stuntman707 yeah No your wrong. They’re just not designing them perfectly enough

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    And make is not able to replace cable to get 600$ by replacing screen

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@magsec5 they are desgining it perfectly to break and cost 600$

  • @magsec5

    @magsec5

    5 жыл бұрын

    glitch gamer everything is getting more and more intergrated. This is just another one of those casualties.

  • @keomafernandes7442
    @keomafernandes74425 жыл бұрын

    It's almost like it was designed to wear out after the warranty to stimulate a replacement

  • @empirerecords1332

    @empirerecords1332

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yessss🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒

  • @davidelliott5843

    @davidelliott5843

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s designed to outlast the warranty. That’s it.

  • @bhushaaa4244
    @bhushaaa42445 жыл бұрын

    The video quality was amazing. Thanks!

  • @southpew3535
    @southpew35355 жыл бұрын

    soo glad that i got myself macbook pro 2015 seeing all those issues with keyboard now lcd in newer models

  • @haramaschabrasir8662
    @haramaschabrasir86625 жыл бұрын

    Here we go again. The first LED screen MacBook Pros early 2008 had a similar issue, the display cable twisted and caused problems. But at least back then it was easier to replace a cable. Class action lawsuit anyone?

  • @Sereosh
    @Sereosh5 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure this is what happened to my 2016 MBP. Luckily I live in the EU and I got my screen fixed days before the 2 year warranty ended...

  • @iftikharsadeed9943
    @iftikharsadeed99434 жыл бұрын

    My 2016 Macbook Pro just started to have this issue today. I am going to get it tested by Apple if they are open now days.

  • @robbinklg9
    @robbinklg95 жыл бұрын

    This is a quality video, nice work!

  • @moneymoney3780
    @moneymoney37805 жыл бұрын

    Apple gives you only 1 year of warranty for macbook that costs $1000+? I got 4 years of warranty for my $400 HP laptop

  • @cameranut

    @cameranut

    4 жыл бұрын

    What HP comes with a 4 year warranty without paying extra? If you paid for an extra warranty, fine, but you can also pay for AppleCare on the Macbook pro, so your argument is moot.

  • @damiengreen28

    @damiengreen28

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bet your $400 hp laptop needed it too. I've never seen a 4 year old cheap laptop in a case that isn't falling to bits.

  • @damiengreen28

    @damiengreen28

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ioannis Skardasis another person pretending pc laptops are all perfect and never break? I fix computers for a living, I see a lot of broken pc laptops and not many broken mac ones. And no, I'm not a mac fanboy I am typing this from my windows pc.

  • @scod3908

    @scod3908

    Ай бұрын

    Let me guess, you're no longer using that HP laptop 5 years on

  • @moneymoney3780

    @moneymoney3780

    Ай бұрын

    @@scod3908 exactly 💀 macbooks were absolute dogshit back when they had intel but now theyre really good

  • @tritron5519
    @tritron55195 жыл бұрын

    Its sad to see what apple products have become. My 2012 Macbook pro still works without a problem, the 2015 one doesnt

  • @johnsam4764
    @johnsam47642 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. May i ask what are the different causes between stage light effect and all black out effect. these two issues both cause by ribbon cable broken. But my mbp has only stage light effect. so i want to know what exact wire of that cable cause stage light effect. thanks

  • @swmike
    @swmike5 жыл бұрын

    Do we know if the new 2018 Macbook Air has this problem as well?

  • @gokmenkilincarslan7082
    @gokmenkilincarslan70823 жыл бұрын

    The issue also applies to the 15 inch models for those of you wondering. However Apple does not cover the 15 inch models.

  • @FVBmovies

    @FVBmovies

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes they do. You just need to be persistent and spend up to 3 hours on support.

  • @antoniesb4330

    @antoniesb4330

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@FVBmoviescould you explain this? Thanks

  • @FVBmovies

    @FVBmovies

    5 ай бұрын

    @@antoniesb4330 Louis Rossman channel told how a customer was on phone with Apple customer support and got trough to accept his 15 inch model for screen replacement. Not worth to explain further as most of these models have expired warranty anyway not counting Apple Care.

  • @AustinPetDetective
    @AustinPetDetective2 жыл бұрын

    So frustrating that a problem like this can even exist from just opening and closing the computer. So when the laptop goes in for repair are they putting in longer cables to fix the problem or is the same thing going to happen in a years time ?

  • @cletusclark4988

    @cletusclark4988

    11 ай бұрын

    no it wont ! am a professional mac technician and i can tell for a fact with my experience with flex, the issue wont happend again beccause if the flex is longer it wont break, so far ive fixed or repaired over 20 macs issues with backlight flex or the lcd panel itself especially from 2016 - present and they all been good till now

  • @arthurguimaraes00
    @arthurguimaraes004 жыл бұрын

    My 2017 touchbar macbook pro started to show this issue yesterday. It got worse today. It shows black lines at the bottom of the screen.

  • @Spiteful_Crow
    @Spiteful_Crow5 жыл бұрын

    Does this affect all MacBook Pros or just the touchbar models only?

  • @onedgurl425
    @onedgurl4252 жыл бұрын

    This literally just happened to my MacBook, I was so confused because my previous one lasted for 6 years and this one is went out after 3 years (I used warranty and they replaced the same one after my cat stepped on the screen and broke it

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades5 жыл бұрын

    well the funny thing is in the EU they must fix it under warranty laws since in the EU there is a 2 year minimum warranty and since its a design flaw they are not allowed to scam customers in thinking its their fault

  • @astroguyco

    @astroguyco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most of apple customers are in the US, there are no laws preventing them making money here

  • @deemasg6235
    @deemasg62355 жыл бұрын

    Hey any information If the MacBook Air 2018 has the same problem?

  • @s-j-e-1
    @s-j-e-13 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible to sand the edge where the cable is breaking down a bit so its not that sharp?

  • @ArthurMoore
    @ArthurMoore5 жыл бұрын

    What's really impressive is how long they lasted after Steve's death. Finally now, we really see what's left of apple without him.

  • @roger767
    @roger7675 жыл бұрын

    macbook pro 2015, last good macbook Apple made

  • @jonvincentmusic

    @jonvincentmusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nah last great Apple MacBook was the 2012 13" pre-retina, MD101. Plenty of those models still in use today, and everything about it can be upgraded, repaired or replaced.

  • @jacksprrow

    @jacksprrow

    5 жыл бұрын

    i agree, thats why i bought a brand new sealed in box mid-2015 as a spare last week.It will sit unused until my current mid-2015 dies(which it probably wont). Hopefully this will allow me to continue to use MacOS until tim cook the moron is ousted and new non-shitty macbooks are made.

  • @QueenGoesYT

    @QueenGoesYT

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jonvincentmusic Got my 2011 15 inch pro here beside me and it still performs like a champ. I got the logic board and battery replaced under extended warranty so it's basically as good as new, until the logic board explodes again.

  • @Act1veSp1n

    @Act1veSp1n

    5 жыл бұрын

    2012 non-retina

  • @Erik.Lundberg

    @Erik.Lundberg

    5 жыл бұрын

    In MacBook Pro retina you need to replace the whole top case to replace the battery. So they are also not that good if you compare them to the older thicker MacBook Pro models.

  • @Tenmilmedia
    @Tenmilmedia4 жыл бұрын

    Can this be replaced on the non-touchbar model? Without buying a screen?

  • @18PregnantAndProud
    @18PregnantAndProud3 жыл бұрын

    if i got a staingate, do they also replace the entire screen? thus fixing the flexgate also ?

  • @koustavpramanick8373
    @koustavpramanick83735 жыл бұрын

    I am waiting for the day when apple would say "its normal"🤣🤣

  • @wertusp
    @wertusp5 жыл бұрын

    You are opening the Macbook wrong.

  • @wolfgangkoeppen52

    @wolfgangkoeppen52

    5 жыл бұрын

    I saw that too, made me cringe

  • @zxttgg

    @zxttgg

    5 жыл бұрын

    Should never open, and tell your friends you have a macbook, and it’s cool.

  • @JamilKhan-hk1wl

    @JamilKhan-hk1wl

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Masterr Laster nice , thank you apple fanboi for mentioning that

  • @innagramtv6731

    @innagramtv6731

    4 жыл бұрын

    everyone is so smart saying it's wrong, but no one says what's the right way

  • @tang8425
    @tang84253 жыл бұрын

    Exactly same issue for my computer, 13 inches, 2017 models!!!

  • @toontownlegomaster
    @toontownlegomaster5 жыл бұрын

    OMG. OMG my inverter cable was coming apart from the connector but that happened like 4 years after owning my MacBook. And now it's just happening wide spread with newer laptops.....

  • @Adri_BlackBeast
    @Adri_BlackBeast5 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting 👌

  • @hopsie9983
    @hopsie9983 Жыл бұрын

    This has just happened to my Mac book Pro.

  • @n37sun3

    @n37sun3

    Жыл бұрын

    same. such a frustration. Repair appointment only available after 7 days, whereas the new max chip model only available 16days later😅 and my exam is two days ahead

  • @vaanrodriguez

    @vaanrodriguez

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too we should all make a vídeo about our problem ando give them bad advertising, this is all planned from them

  • @arun8623

    @arun8623

    Жыл бұрын

    Was it repaired for free? They are trying to charge for mine.

  • @shanejrwoo9744
    @shanejrwoo97443 жыл бұрын

    Hi curious any update of it?

  • @samanthaagneslumapas8388
    @samanthaagneslumapas83883 жыл бұрын

    Yes this is my problem. But i can still plug it thru hdmi connector to my tv . It has stage loght effect but eventually black screen... Whats the link for the petition? Or repair in apple site?

  • @Alvin-eq5rc
    @Alvin-eq5rc5 жыл бұрын

    Did apple did this on purpose to break MacBook so customer will buy a new one? Utterly disgusting quality assessment.

  • @brandon_nope

    @brandon_nope

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alvin obviously not.

  • @LucasDeEirozRodrigues

    @LucasDeEirozRodrigues

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@brandon_nope innocent

  • @maxdamage8562

    @maxdamage8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    NO! It's a design defect. It's always easy to see why you shouldn't have thrown that pass AFTER it's picked off. In the words of Chuck Knox, "hindsight is 20/20".

  • @ryanvacation7319

    @ryanvacation7319

    5 жыл бұрын

    I like to believe its more because Apple wants to design thinner and thinner laptops rather then it intentionally manufactured it to break within a year.

  • @Alvin-eq5rc

    @Alvin-eq5rc

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Villanueva I know I am too quick to judge. But the iPhone 6 bendgate issue Apple knew it in their testing before they released the product.

  • @TheActiveAssault
    @TheActiveAssault5 жыл бұрын

    Despite their absurd price and flawed hardware they still possess crazy market share

  • @MariaMaria-gt6iz
    @MariaMaria-gt6iz4 жыл бұрын

    Hello. I have trouble on my Macbook Pro 2017, touch bar. A year ago, it starts flickering. I do not have enough money to fix it by LCD replacement. So, what I did was when the screen starts to flicker I just close it for a few hours and use it again. It takes only 15mins before flickering again, so, as I student its kinda hassle. Then, there was this online friend of mine who told me that I do not need to have an LCD Replacement, I just need to fix the flex. So, I want to ask you, if ever I fix the flex on my laptop is it a good move? Or do I really need to have an LCD replacement?

  • @hebermix
    @hebermix3 жыл бұрын

    this happend to me i have a macbook pro mid 2012 so what about this model how can if fix it. any idea?

  • @mrraywhite7928
    @mrraywhite79285 жыл бұрын

    Apple Support “Have you done a software update?”

  • @mindhead_

    @mindhead_

    2 жыл бұрын

    is it turned on?

  • @HuxTheSergal
    @HuxTheSergal5 жыл бұрын

    Apple cares more about making their devices nice and light rather than usable and durable.

  • @peterthepanda

    @peterthepanda

    5 жыл бұрын

    *more about making more money by using poor design choices to force more expensive repairs than FTFY.

  • @anandsuralkar2947

    @anandsuralkar2947

    5 жыл бұрын

    They actually make internationally breakable after one year span..and also 6$ replacement made 600$ thats called bussness

  • @TechnoboxOG

    @TechnoboxOG

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@anandsuralkar2947 aka. being a asshole to your customers

  • @jonaswunderkind4580

    @jonaswunderkind4580

    5 жыл бұрын

    Its not the problem of being light, look at newest Swift 7 or Asus - they light, tiny and have no buttons or display issues like Apple. Also they cost the same price.

  • @ppsarrakis

    @ppsarrakis

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jonaswunderkind4580 dont fool yourself,all laptops have one issue or the other....

  • @wrangleroooo
    @wrangleroooo4 жыл бұрын

    What about new models with Vega graphics and AMD Radeon Pro 5300M ? What kind of cable is there?

  • @marshallsun1602
    @marshallsun16022 жыл бұрын

    I just noticed this problem!!! I bought a new 16'' mbp in 2019 since the screen of my 15'' mbp does not work. I just find that the screen works well when I only open the screen with a small angle while it shows nothing but black if I open it completely.

  • @Hurricane31337
    @Hurricane313375 жыл бұрын

    My 2016 MacBook Pro 15 Touchbar was also affected and I had to buy a completely new display after only 1.5 years. In three Apple Store they didn't want to do it for free and said that I would be the first one with this problem, so I had to pay ~500€ for their design fail. Good to know that I've been lied to and they knew exactly about this flaw... Btw my keyboard is getting "stickier" too and one key already stopped working for a day.......

  • @mrhats830

    @mrhats830

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same computer as you...and yes Ive already had to get the display fixed and my keyboard fixed. This computer has been a joke. Over $1,000 in repairs that I didn't have to pay because apple care covered it. Thats ridiculous! I'm Cooked out. Ready for a new CEO to come in and fix Apple after all the issues that dude has brought on the company.

  • @nameinvalid69

    @nameinvalid69

    5 жыл бұрын

    it got me wondering, aren't you guys are at a point to start thinking "this isn't worth it" and find alternative products, instead of continue paying those unreasonable sum...?

  • @mrhats830

    @mrhats830

    5 жыл бұрын

    ZeroLife if only PC manufacturers started making their computers super easy to run mac os, they wouldn’t have any problems selling their PCs. Hackintosh laptops can be a nightmare to get working correctly compared to a desktop hackintosh. And to answer your question, my next computer will be a hackintosh. I’m done paying high prices for sub par hardware. I love Mac OS but the hardware choices under Tim Cook tend to be lower quality.

  • @kushantha7

    @kushantha7

    5 жыл бұрын

    If macos is what you need then no other choices. But if it's not just get a thinkpad and it'll run like toyota corolla. Boring but works.

  • @diegomesa2337
    @diegomesa23375 жыл бұрын

    i just started having this problem ):

  • @RogwinMusic

    @RogwinMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    me too.........unbelievable.

  • @Rudi82831
    @Rudi828314 жыл бұрын

    still the same issue on the 2019 Macbook Pro 16 ?

  • @Sasha-hg2jd
    @Sasha-hg2jd5 жыл бұрын

    New MacBook Air 2018 has the same flaw?

  • @angeloreyes1951
    @angeloreyes19515 жыл бұрын

    oMg ItS NoT apPleS FaUlt you're just opening it wrong!!!1!

  • @MidnightBloomDev
    @MidnightBloomDev5 жыл бұрын

    *_You are buying it wrong_*

  • @visalbotrchan1431
    @visalbotrchan14315 жыл бұрын

    Have you guys found any solutions to fix this problem? Two of my friends have usbc MacBook Pro models and they both have this problem, and both Apple and third party repairs ask for 500$ or more for the screen replacement.

  • @user-np1he4mu2u
    @user-np1he4mu2u5 жыл бұрын

    Razer blade 15 has the same issue. The display cable is routed very similarly.

  • @justinwhite2313
    @justinwhite23135 жыл бұрын

    What gives Apple? It's just one screw up after another. I love Apple products, but I can't stand this anymore... Posting my MacBook Pro for sale and buying a windows laptop is very tempting right now.

  • @HIIMUsc

    @HIIMUsc

    5 жыл бұрын

    yeah, since the new iPad is coming bend from the Factory im not going to buy one, my iPad Pro 9.7 looks like new and performs great, why should i buy an overpriced Banana, also can‘t use my apple pencil on it and no more Lightning Connector, Apple sucks since a few years now....

  • @power21100

    @power21100

    5 жыл бұрын

    if you're looking for a thin and light, you should check out laptops from Razer, Dell, HP, Asus, and MSI etc.....

  • @JoseMendez-wu4om

    @JoseMendez-wu4om

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then do it. Nobody’s stopping you.

  • @blumac9801

    @blumac9801

    5 жыл бұрын

    Justin White just get a new RTX laptop...

  • @latitudeash

    @latitudeash

    5 жыл бұрын

    in late 2011, I got myself a £2100 GBP Mac book pro. I love it, but its over-heats, and I have had to get a table cooler. I have also had to instal FAN control. I love the Mac Operating system then and now. Than My graphics card chip fried and I was just in warranty to get the motherboard replaced ( it cost almost £700 GBP (free to me). The Mac book overheats still. So I have employed the previous measures. Its a love-hate affair with me with me. Lots of things to love about apple but lots of things to hate. I have an iPhone, 11.9 iPad Pro 2019, MacBook Pro2011 (as mentioned), earPods, iPod (x3). That said I am well established into the Apple ecosystem and they got me good and proper. It is difficult to detach myself. I can tell you that I will never get another MacBook Pro, too unreliable. I will be getting a razer Laptop and installing AppleOS on it on a dual boot set-up. It's possible using Hackingtosh process. What can I say, I gave Apple all the chances in the world one would give. I wish Apple would sort themselves out as I would not want to go away, but at this moment I will not be getting another MacBook Pro. Sorry, Apple you messed up too many times on this product.

  • @johnnyjones2773
    @johnnyjones2773 Жыл бұрын

    This issue has just started on my 2017 MacBook Pro 15 inch and since it cost me and arm and a leg to buy I was hoping it would last to my second degree at uni starting next year but nope, it’s already starting to fail. I’ve always used apple computers but their lack of care for people forking out £2-3k for laptops some of which are students working long hours to afford them is genuinely despicable. Time to look at other companies.

  • @MarkusAT
    @MarkusAT5 жыл бұрын

    I have really close to the same issue on my iPad Pro 12.9 2017

  • @sk9c00
    @sk9c005 жыл бұрын

    Lmao this happened to my sans Touch Bar MBP (same year as Touch Bar release) model 6 months after they just released it, luckily it was within the 1 year warranty period and they did a full screen replacement.... they didn’t explain it to us at that time what was wrong, but after watching this video, I wonder if they have actually fixed this issue or if it’s going to reoccur again and again until you buy a new model.... which technically isn’t out yet. Great. Just great. 👍

  • @RaddDronzy
    @RaddDronzy5 жыл бұрын

    First of all they are expensive. Then now they have this type of stupid problems. Thought of buying one next month but nope never buying an apple macbook.

  • @danielhirsh2937

    @danielhirsh2937

    5 жыл бұрын

    Radd Dronzy never bad this problem the MacBook Pro is really good for work

  • @kaylamitchell1982

    @kaylamitchell1982

    5 жыл бұрын

    Get an iPad instead

  • @Thatapsguy12

    @Thatapsguy12

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have an older MacBook (2012) and love it.

  • @RaddDronzy

    @RaddDronzy

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Thatapsguy12 Old macbooks are great. But if I want them then I will get only secondhand.

  • @MrUnkownGuyAC

    @MrUnkownGuyAC

    5 жыл бұрын

    Look into buying pre - 2015 models as they are rated high in repairability, and my 2012 is still rocking strong after 4+ years of being on the bed, backpack, and on the table.

  • @ATF.California
    @ATF.California5 жыл бұрын

    Louis Rossman Were you at 🤔

  • @Lockiel

    @Lockiel

    5 жыл бұрын

    He told me if he repaired my computer it would just happen again :/

  • @wyc2462
    @wyc24625 жыл бұрын

    Question: How do I know if my MAC BookPor 2017 Mid has the "Clutch Cover"? Can someone answer me?

  • @asicdathens
    @asicdathens5 жыл бұрын

    I have one of the last Vaio models from Sony (2014 model) After a lot of wear and tear and two falls I replaced the plastic shells and the laptop is as new. I replaced HDD (solid state), battery, wifi module (upgraded to 5Ghz). It's an i7 with 8GB and I can run all the software I need.

  • @psbx

    @psbx

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... , since my 2018 model Mac book pro has this issue, I switched to Sony Vaio 2010 model by upgrading to SSD.

  • @buttsexandbananapeels
    @buttsexandbananapeels5 жыл бұрын

    I was literally going to buy a new MacBook Pro today. Nope.

  • @crabbynebula

    @crabbynebula

    2 жыл бұрын

    word

  • @nelsonpun
    @nelsonpun5 жыл бұрын

    can we get the 60k peoeple who watched this to all write in on their feedback page?

  • @abhishekpatil9599
    @abhishekpatil95993 жыл бұрын

    I am using a MacBook Pro 2017 model...I am currently have a backlight flickering issue in my user profile but I do not face the same issue in the safe mode...Is it the same issue explained here or is this something different ??

  • @RUokLiebe
    @RUokLiebe5 жыл бұрын

    Does this issue exists for the 2017 13' MacBook Pro ?

  • @emailalpha6437
    @emailalpha64375 жыл бұрын

    I was deciding on weather to buy a MacBook Pro - this answers my question. Absofuckinglutely NOT buying until I see how Apple handles this.

  • @mindhead_

    @mindhead_

    2 жыл бұрын

    3 years later and aside from just one of a slew of affected models they are charging their customers through the roof for a repair and telling them that the flexgate issue is a rumour.

  • @TheJesperX
    @TheJesperX5 жыл бұрын

    #courage

  • @idiotlyuseful
    @idiotlyuseful5 жыл бұрын

    My ipad pro had that problem too... is it a cable quality issue?

  • @KurenaiKimitsu
    @KurenaiKimitsu3 жыл бұрын

    my 2013 pro have this problem after a few yrs. took years to figure out wtf was the problem (i guess I didnt use correct words to try to google it). brightness doesnt adjust but other than that no other screen issue but that might be because I stopped closing it at home. now i have to use an app to adjust brightness (which puts a "shade" on the whole screen). not great for screen caps.

  • @TheRealMarkS
    @TheRealMarkS5 жыл бұрын

    Out of warranty, Apple will tell you that you need a new display panel, and possibly a logic board, and that you'd be better off buying a new laptop. That seems to be the way they do business these days. Someone really needs to start selling Hackintosh kits, both for desktop and laptops. Sell a kit of compatible components, and include everything but a Mac OS disk, and you'd get everything you want at half the price. Personally, if I could easily buy a nicely spec'd kit, I wouldn't care if it was heavier, thicker, or made of plastic. I (and I suspect a lot of people) just want Mac OS.

  • @moth4256

    @moth4256

    5 жыл бұрын

    problem is that installing mac is can be really difficult for a regular user and they can't advertise themselves as a hackintosh device or anything like that, as apple legal team will be very mad at that

  • @ThereminHero

    @ThereminHero

    5 жыл бұрын

    You really are better building one though, to make sure you don't get ripped off and so you can choose the spec you want for your budget. The info is all there and quite straightforward to follow. www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/building-a-customac-hackintosh-the-ultimate-buyers-guide/

  • @chabaniabdelfatah704

    @chabaniabdelfatah704

    5 жыл бұрын

    Selling hackintosh causes jail

  • @JanCiger

    @JanCiger

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nobody can sell "Hackintosh kits" because you will get sued for contributory copyright infringement by Apple, even if you don't distribute the disks themselves . They will claim that your "product" is designed only to facilitate copyright infringement by others (installing MacOS on anything but Apple hw is prohibited by their license) and you will have very expensive legal problems. And if you don't label the kit as "Hackintosh", then you are just selling a regular PC that anyone could buy on every corner. Not sure what would be the point.

  • @jamesisaac7684

    @jamesisaac7684

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's a lawsuit. Apple went after them and won.

  • @MrFijiBoySako
    @MrFijiBoySako5 жыл бұрын

    Not a good year for Apple.

  • @AmanKumar-so6tl
    @AmanKumar-so6tl4 жыл бұрын

    I am facing the same issue.. please help ! Too expensive to get it replaced.

  • @imbaBOSCO
    @imbaBOSCO10 ай бұрын

    I have A1706 model and the camera has gone dead the repair guys said the flexgate is display backlight issue only. but the camera cable is also similar which has killed the camera and no one is ready to repair since they haven't worked on it.

  • @Kysen10
    @Kysen105 жыл бұрын

    Fire Jony Ive, thinness at all cost is really screwing up this laptop.

  • @watcherob

    @watcherob

    5 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Jony Ive needs to start creating products that people can actually use instead of pretty fluff that breaks when you look at it.

  • @bibletwink666

    @bibletwink666

    5 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't steve jobs also about thinnes?

  • @jeffdickey

    @jeffdickey

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bibletwink666 Jobs was an engineer. Ive is a designer totally consumed by his "thinner, lighter, flimsier" fetish. Don't enable people bent on harmful behaviour.

  • @PrimalNaCl

    @PrimalNaCl

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jeff Dickey - The only 'engineering' Jobs ever did was getting people to let him use them until they were of no value to him. Had he not had the lottery luck of meeting Woz and Woz not telling him to piss off, Steve would have likely been a used-car salesman and/or killed for trying to screw w/the wrong person at some point in his life. Did he do an amazing thing wrt to creating a high valued company? For some value of 'amazing' sure. Was _he_ a high quality individual? Absolutely not. Did he have any technical ability/skills? Not really.

  • @summushieremiasclarkson4700

    @summushieremiasclarkson4700

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@PrimalNaCl finally. Jobs was an overrated preacher.

  • @Memorax
    @Memorax5 жыл бұрын

    Uh oh just wait til the apple disciples find out you implied Apple may have made a design flaw

  • @AndyKYu
    @AndyKYu5 жыл бұрын

    @iFixit Video, are the new Macbook Air (Late 2018) notebook computers also affected by this Flexgate?

  • @madesusena96

    @madesusena96

    5 жыл бұрын

    Andy K. Yu i have the same question, and i did experienced it with my 2016 macbook pro

  • @deltoid77-nick
    @deltoid77-nick5 жыл бұрын

    You could strip the display cable and add extra lengths using thin jumper wires

  • @meloD30
    @meloD305 жыл бұрын

    Apple. Excellence in design till 2015.

  • @maxdamage8562

    @maxdamage8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    There are plenty of examples of crappy Apple products prior to that date. Go get a look at a PowerMac 6100. I could go on all day...

  • @meloD30

    @meloD30

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@maxdamage8562 Agreed. But since 2015 there seem to be significant design flaws in every product line.

  • @haramaschabrasir8662

    @haramaschabrasir8662

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, the pre 2015 MBPs had staingate and the pre retina 2012 MBPs had dying graphics cards. Apple wasn't better with Jobs around, stop being nostalgic. But I think customer support got even worse with Cook.

  • @justinbeamon6624
    @justinbeamon66245 жыл бұрын

    1 year warranty lollllllllll

  • @maxdamage8562

    @maxdamage8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    Industry standard. Try moving out of mommies basement.

  • @garvinputra5329
    @garvinputra53295 жыл бұрын

    Does this still happend on 2018 models?

  • @Rahul-iq5eg
    @Rahul-iq5eg5 жыл бұрын

    Same issue with my macbook pro touch bar..waiting for the any update frm apple..mean time using cheaper laptop...but does company understands tht these things affects people

  • @shaocaholica
    @shaocaholica5 жыл бұрын

    Lol if you’re not throwing your MacBook into the dumpster after a year. That’s the manufacturer recommended service life.

  • @muhammadiq
    @muhammadiq5 жыл бұрын

    never ending Macbook Pro problems ...

  • @jen_zyf
    @jen_zyf4 жыл бұрын

    if i ignore it (since mine isn't as bad as the one in the video), will it get worse overtime?

  • @lastminuteboi

    @lastminuteboi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, definitely. For my 13 inch 2017 MBP, stagelight effect started about couple weeks ago. So I started using it at about 50 degree angle. After a week or so of continuous using now the display is completely gone black.

  • @silentjeff41
    @silentjeff415 жыл бұрын

    For people who have this laptop and haven’t had this happen yet, will modifying the rigid edges by add some padding or something, help stop the issue from occurring?

  • @maxdamage8562

    @maxdamage8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is a though, although I don't think padding would be it. perhaps reinforcing the cable with some mylar tape? Dunno.

  • @zacharysandberg
    @zacharysandberg5 жыл бұрын

    What a terrible company

  • @maxdamage8562

    @maxdamage8562

    5 жыл бұрын

    What a stupid comment.

  • @NanoMine
    @NanoMine5 жыл бұрын

    Here's the fix: Open the display so that you can see the screen while it's still working, then login into your Apple account and order another MacBook. Checkout and the problem should go away in few days. I tried and it works.

  • @haramaschabrasir8662

    @haramaschabrasir8662

    5 жыл бұрын

    You spelled Lenovo Thinkpad wrong

  • @patrickraposas5889
    @patrickraposas58895 жыл бұрын

    this problem is much more common to those who use the UAG case. i found lots of complaints about that case

  • @AhmedHassan-nz9xk
    @AhmedHassan-nz9xk5 жыл бұрын

    Is 2018 model also affected by this?

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