Excellent video - really enjoy your explanation of scaling vs performance and your overall video style, great job.

I’ve been researching this topic for the last couple of weeks and found so many different answers. Thank you so much for clearing this messy topic up once and for all, excellent video! 🙏👏👌

@inv3st_eth839

Жыл бұрын

How it would show on external display if i buy 32 inch 4k display and downgrade it to 1080p ?

@TripleIProductions

9 ай бұрын

​@@inv3st_eth839did your figure this out?

I was literally looking for a new monitor for my Macbook right now, and the 4k scaling issue was still a big question mark. And then your video came online, what a fortunate coincidence!

@ErikGT

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too

@ValdemarDeMatos

Жыл бұрын

Coincidence would be that none of the thousands of viewers of this video were looking for a new monitor 😅

@himashakurera

Жыл бұрын

@@BozBundalo what's about the scaling? is that sharp?

@chidorirasenganz

Жыл бұрын

@@himashakurera not unless you’re running it at a 1080p equivalent vs 1440p equivalent for a 5k display

@ngamsomset

Жыл бұрын

@@chidorirasenganz that's correct. I scale mine on 1080p as well.

Thanks Kyle! I appreciate your well-researched content and the high production value of this video. I’m a graphic designer working on a mac mini m1 and am so happy I found your channel. I’m thrilled about buying the 27” 4k monitor and scaling to enlarge the interface so I can actually see the menu. I also appreciate the many helpful viewer comments. Generating great engagement like this portends much success for your channel! Way to go!

Nice overview. Being a photographer, I picked my iMac 5K to give me as much room to work at 1::1 density and added a 4K LG to my MacBook for the same reasons. I needed the ability to zoom to 100% 1::1 resolution to edit and apply sharpening correctly. Having said that, I wish Apple would allow independent text scaling (2x, 4x, etc.) along with the display scaling... it can be a pain on those monitors to see menus, fly-outs and panels since they can be very small on those high density displays. It usually means working closer to the monitors than most would typically do so.

@eoinkirwan3147

11 ай бұрын

Exactly, just give us text scaling please!!

@AaronFigFront

6 ай бұрын

maybe third party apps like better display can help? it can create dummy display with or with HiDPI at different resolution.

@Ed_Mann

5 ай бұрын

One thing is for sure, OS functionality that helps their customers isn’t going to come from Apple. The recently announced new Apple credo is “DEAL WITH IT. Suckers”

Thank you! I didn't find this to be an issue either but heard so many youtubers make a hue and cry about it. Frankly if I'm using a larger 4k display, I definitely need the extra space it comes with where I can see more of the panels or place more program windows alongside as the need be. So while I will continue doing what I was doing, at least after seeing this video, I'll be more at peace about the overall performance hit. Thanks for testing this out and sharing your thoughts here!

Thanks for the video. I have been using a Viewsonic VP-2768 4K for a year now on my M1 Mac Mini connected in DP on a thunderbolt hub, and noticed no issues.

This was very helpful. Thanks for the in-depth analysis!

Excellent! subbed! High quality detailed production!

Very thorough explanation on how scaling works on macOS. Certainly the best I’ve encountered so far. Very well presented - thanks a bunch! 👏

@otherother8664

Жыл бұрын

It is im looking for a good not great moniter without paying $1599 but the only down side for that is 60 hz for me so much money should have everything i need in it

@trungdaivlog

11 ай бұрын

With scale factor of 1.5 -> blurry at border of texts. I would rather take a 27" 2K monitor

Thank you! Just what I needed to watch to understand scaling on my Mac! Cheers! Great video!

This was the perfect video for my question I had. Thanks!

This cleared out a lot of things I had in mind. Thank you so much!

Thanks Kyle, after a lot of research your video finally clarifies things to me!

This is my first time in your channel. WOW! what a great video! Thanks for putting all this info in a simple way to understand Have a Productive and Healthy Day!

Hello Kyle, finally a video that clearly explains this scaling thing. I even went to the Apple store and ask to the specialist and he just did not have a good answer. Thank you very match for your time and efforts!

Thank you so much!! I'm upgrading from 2k due to blurry texts to 4k to solve it and now I found out about virtual scaling and as I found out after watching your video there are so many missinformation abou this online. Thanks a lot for this video.

A thing to note - the text rendering quality on non-retina displays degraded when Apple removed sub-pixel antialiasing. It was hidden from the settings in Mojave and removed entirely in Big Sur. The scaling wasn't an issue beforehand, you could use a 1366x768 display and it would have nice, sharp text. It was my favourite MacOS feature and they didn't bother to support it because with Retina displays it's not needed. But if you have a 3rd party monitor with less DPI than ~220, it doesn't look as good anymore. This is of course a separate issue than the performance. I never noticed a difference running scaled resolutions. But the font rendering thing bothers me a lot as a webdev. Such a dickmove from Apple. Kyle says the difference is not noticeable, which may be true if you're on 4k 27", but on 32" it's not. The text looks like garbage, it's blurry, the whole thing is embarrassing considering Jobs was about nice typography. More info: www.howtogeek.com/358596/how-to-fix-blurry-fonts-on-macos-mojave-with-subpixel-antialiasing/ news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17477526

@lucalorenzetti9905

Жыл бұрын

True story!!

@emilemouannes2236

Жыл бұрын

32 4K here. Text was blurry. I returned the MacBook Air m2 and went back to my windows machine. Night and day difference.

@mrjellow

Жыл бұрын

I've been using Macs since '06. This will be my last Apple computer. Apple was always a nuisance when it came to removing features but lately it really feels like you are trapped in a very very expensive cage. 'Oh you want an external monitor for your 2000 dollar MPB?'' Buy our 1500 dollar display..without a stand'. Think different, think Windows.

@smeyichou3514

Жыл бұрын

I was considering buying a Mac Mini with a 4k ultrawide, around 32 or 34 inch. So you're telling me either I should go with a 27 inch 4k monitor, or a 5k monitor?

@hydrolifetech7911

10 ай бұрын

I was viewing some code on 32 inch monitor and I was flabbergasted. The code didn't make sense. Only after hours of trying and failing did I view it on Macbook's screen and noticed all the - signs I was seeing on the 32 inch were all =signs! Ridiculous!

This video helped me out a lot! Thanks for this.

Thank you for this video. It was pleasantly surprising, and informative.

Thanks for clearing this up for me!!!

Great video on a topic I am very interested in since I just bought 2 27" 4k panels for my m1 pro. I have to say I have used the scaling option and everything is working just fine. No slow downs or anything.

@Tonellacam

Жыл бұрын

You scaled down to 1440 from your 4k computers , im about to buy a 4k 27 maybe I should just buy a 1440 asus pro art instead of the 4k , im gonna plug my M1 Max for video editing

@ElayneOkaya

10 ай бұрын

@@Tonellacamwhat did you eventually decide on?

@georgemalczynski

8 ай бұрын

I'm also using a M1 Pro Macbook, I was given a fairly high quality 4k display and it has been fine so far.

@Ed_Mann

5 ай бұрын

@@Tonellacamthat’s what I’d do.

@Ed_Mann

5 ай бұрын

@@georgemalczynskiI think success or struggle in that configuration is largely dependent on how GPU intensive your work is. Video you’ll perceive lag, photo editing lag will be there but it may not be noticable to you. Pedestrian tasks, whatever your system yiekds, you’ll think of as normal.

I have been looking around for many weeks to find a definitive answer to this after deciding the Apple Display was not for me. You have cleared up a lot of concerns. Thank you! Subscribed.

@ZR1Terror

22 күн бұрын

So did you get this display?

Just revisited this from a year ago. It is so well explained and illustrated that IMHO it is the "go-to" V;og on the internet for this question/matter/explanation! Thanks again - very well done and as preofessional as it gets!

Great video! Helps demystify the topic.

I wish I would have seen this video earlier. I wasted way too much time and mental energy stressing about this issue. Thank you for making this plain and clear!

Thanks, Kyle, for the amazing video review about 4K resolution. I was really confused before I watched your video, and now it's much better.

The best explanation I could find - good job!

Excellent video - as always!

Fantastic video! Thank you for posting!

Thanks for the awesome and in-depth explanation! I have a 27" 4K monitor hooked up to my top spec macbook pro 16" 2019 and have not noticed any performance hit, scaled at 1440p. Under most tasks, I don't even hear the fans spin up.

@officialmultimedia8107

10 ай бұрын

Same here

@samaelmorningstar8737

3 ай бұрын

which monitor do you have?

@Aspireonthego

3 ай бұрын

@@samaelmorningstar8737 Dell u2720qm

@Aspireonthego

3 ай бұрын

@@samaelmorningstar8737Dell u2720q

extremely underrated youtuber, going off the quality and video information alone, I would’ve assumed you had over a million subscribers. Keep up the good work man 👍

Hello! Nice video, thanks for the info. I ve been reading tons of information and posts saying that there is also a big problem with QHD ULTRAWIDE resolution (bluriness, text clarity), do you know if is true or is it the same misunderstanding as you said about 4k?

In the end I bought the LG 40” ultrawide for my Mac Studio. Yes, in native resolution, text is too small. I’m using it scaled, no issues, its awesome! Thank you! 🙏

@SharkBoy87

10 ай бұрын

What scaling, the 1440p? Seems very large for 40”

From my experience, the scaled performance thing doesn't really affect M1 chipset much, but if you use an intel mac, and try to watch some video at scaled resolution, you will see the GPU usage jumps up pretty high and the fan starts to kick in. that is true when I compared this on my 2017 macbook pro 15 inch vs the Mac mini m1

@gamervmid

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! The same story with my MBP 15 2018 😢

@UTJK.

Жыл бұрын

I have a 16" Intel... it got really slow if used at scaled resolution. No problem with the M1.

@ricarmig

Жыл бұрын

Well on my M1 Mac Mini if I move a lot windows, 3D ... I notice some slowdown. On native nothing at all.

@frostgodx

Жыл бұрын

every computer no matter the chipset will start heating up playing 1440 or higher video its just the nature of rendering video to the monitor even with any M1 (my m1 max 32 core even gets to 65c from 40c resting temp when watching a 4k video.

@RNFedit

Жыл бұрын

@@UTJK. so what’s the best resolution for mac intel?

That was so helpful. I have a mac mini with a samsung 32 inch 4k. I scaled it to 3200x1800. I liked the scaling size but it still looked scaled. I thought it was still 4k but making it look bigger. So I took a screenshot and realized it was 4x. So now I just set it to native 4k and manually adjusted screen elements such as the menu bar size, the dock and desktop icons as well as the Safari text size.

@MonicaRubio

2 ай бұрын

wish you could do a tutorial or something because i have a macbook air with a samsung 32 inch 4k and i genuinely hate using it bc of how laggy it is

I have a Late 2015 iMac 27 and an LG 27MU58-B 27" monitor. I've had this setup for 5 years. For many years I ran the monitors at a resolution higher than 1440p thinking it would be better. I saw a similar video a couple years ago explaining basically the same thing and switched to 1440p for both monitors. Other than a brightness difference and a slight color difference, the LG monitor looks just as sharp as the iMac. Yeah, I could pixel peep and see a difference, but the reality is for 95-99% of the work I do, it doesn't matter. For video editing, I use the iMac to make sure my colors are good, but otherwise, it doesn't matter which monitor I'm using. Great video.

@frostgodx

Жыл бұрын

you can easily tell a difference between 5k running at half (1440) vs a 1440 display at native res once your used to the 5k though which is what annoys most people. You see the same things in windows laptops people cry about the 1080 screens looking like crap but love a 4k screen running at 200% scale the same 1080 just because you don't see the pixels.

Thank you for the information, I am looking for a new monitor for my Mac Studio and was worried about 4K monitors but I am no longer worried.

Thanks. An extremely helpful video, which helps debunk myths around scaling and performance

Thank you very much for your point of view on the subject. It has convinced me to go for a 4k monitor

Very thorough explanation, thank you!

Very good explanation, thanks a lot!

Thanks for this explanation, it helped me understand why the ASUS ProArt 2K monitor I use with my Mac desktop scales so well.

@Scolio

Жыл бұрын

Thats the 300 dollar one right? Im trying to find a display that will work with the mac mini Im getting out of the box and that one claims “mac support” which I would hope means it doesnt need any special treatment to look good

@bryans8656

Жыл бұрын

@@Scolio Yes, that's the one. You won't have to do anything special to set it up with your mini. Just plug in the HDMI cable and the power cable and you're good to go.

Thanks Kyle. Great explanation!

FINALLY SOMEONE DID IT. Thank you, subscribed

As someone who has been using dual 4K monitors since 2015 and recently went triple monitor setup I can confirm that the scaling is a huge problem on intel macs and less so on my M1 mini and even less in my M1 Max Studio Max… for now anyways. Webex, google meet and zoom kill the machine and force me to disconnect a display and switch to 1080p in order to stay on a call. Even more so if I’m trying to screen share. When I work on my 34” 1440p ultrawide I have zero issues with performance. Same scenarios run smooth. That’s in a 2019 15” MBP with 32gb of ram and two GPUs. Go 5k or 1440p. It will future proof your setup. Trust what apple is doing. They’ve optimized their machines well as well as scaling.

@sagunmdr

Жыл бұрын

1440p 60hz or 1080p 120hz?

@jayel27

Жыл бұрын

@@sagunmdr if you are on 27” monitors, 1440p. You can find some with higher refresh rates. I have one that is 75hz. But I don’t game so if you do, I’d imagine you want higher. But 1440p if you are using it for work and creative. If you are gaming, get the best your machine handle. I don’t use 1080p on 27” as the UI is too large. Not good for the work I do.

@myrealusername2193

Жыл бұрын

@@sagunmdr if you’re at anything above 24”, then go 1440p. macOS is (despite apple’s attempts) not really used for gaming so a super high refresh rate is less important than resolution.

@moshcorerider

Жыл бұрын

I had massive problems with my old 27 Intel iMac (i5 2015) when plugging in to a second 4K panel the GPU was struggling very hard and the fans spun very high

@user-xb9pq8hj1c

Жыл бұрын

@@myrealusername2193 in makos at 144hz it is much more pleasant, and accordingly more productive to work, than on clumsy 60 or 75 Hz

Congratulations on the quality of your analysis!

Best video of this topic and great community in the comments too Thanks a lot

Finally someone made a concise, well researched video to address such a serious Apple Mac screen display issue. There are a few other videos related to this issue and they certainly contain a lot of scare-mongering misinformation. This video hits the nail on the head. As a video editor, plus grading footage means I am using a 5K Mac Display plus a 4K Display as dual monitors with my Mac Studio. Thank you. 🙂

@visualstudiosproductions

Жыл бұрын

How? 5k imacs can't be used as external displays. There is no other "5k mac display". Do you mean the apple studio display?

@tgilbert4319

Жыл бұрын

@@visualstudiosproductions Yes, that would be what Dion meant. They are running a Mac Studio that has no built in display. The only 5K external displays available now are the Apple Studio Display and (maybe still available) LG Ultrafine.

@lenguyenphi

Жыл бұрын

Yeap, I work on both Windows and Mac and I've been hesitating to buy a 32 inches 4k monitor or save for the 32 inches XDR whichs is ridiculously expensive until I have to buy it for my wfh office. Man I can say that I was being happy from day 1 until now. Windows and MacOS both displayed great on my LG 32UN650 which is 1/3 the price of the XDR's 1000$ stand!!! I can confirm that all Kyle say is correct!!!

@tomhollett

9 ай бұрын

@@lenguyenphi What display settings do you use on your LG in terms of scaling size and HDR? I'm trying to decide the sweet spot for my LG 32UN650 on a Mac Studio M2 for photo and astrophotography editing.

Great content. Brilliant presentation. Such a shame that those leaks and rumors channels have 20x subscribers than this professional.

Finally someone explained this properly! Thanks a lot!

Great video. Liked and subscription added. Keep going 👍

Great video. I will definitely be coming back to check out more. I love the crispness of My Apple Thunderbolt or is vibrant colours. What would be a good PC counterpart at 24-27" 4K in a Samsung or like?

Great, best video on that topic! Thanks!

Great review! What’s a good 4k monitor you recommend for scaling? I have a Mac mini m2.

Great video. I really liked it and learned something but have you tried changing the codec of your final file? When you use your A-Roll you see these circles around the light. It doesn't look beautiful. I don't know if it's a problem from YT or FCP but i would like to see you fix it. Anyways great job.

Thank you very much! This is exactly what I want to know about that when I change my scaling on my m1 pro Mackbook because I like to have more space on a screen.

Great explanation. Thank you.

Great video! Thanks for your clear explanation of the whole thing. If I got it right, you have no information about performance issues on base models, like the M1 Mini, MacBook Air or MacBook Pro, since you tested on M1 Pro/Max; you rather suppose there could be some bottlenecks. Have you any further info about those base models performance working with a scaled resolution (typically looks like 2560x1440)?

Thank you. I was worrying about this because I plan on using the setup for film and graphical editing. 2k resolution not really being the standard for those anymore really screws me up so I'm happy that I don't really have to worry about this anymore lol.

I had been shopping for a new monitor to replace my aging Apple Thunderbolt and had landed on the Dell U3223QE as a possible choice but could never find one being demonstrated anywhere. I tried looking for information online but was continually warned off because of the “dreaded Apple upscaling performance hit”! I witnessed many people calling others foolish for even considering a 4k monitor, mostly based on a video made by a seemingly well meaning young man who was very vague about the specifications of the gear and workflow he was basing his opinions on. I was dubious due to my several decades of experience as a digital artist, creative director and purchaser of gear for art departments. It just seemed like something else was going on. Like maybe he was using a low powered Mac mini or worse yet an older Intel based computer with integrated graphics. Since the Apple Studio Display did not seem like a good deal to me and I really wanted a 32 inch so I could sit back a bit from the monitor with my aging eyes, the Dell seemed perfect. I am very glad I ignored all those people insisting that it would cause technical heartache to hook a 4k monitor up to an Apple Studio Max! I purchased the Dell and it has been GREAT! Thank you so much for working to dispel this nonsense. I wish this video had existed back when I was looking, it would have quickly put my mind at rest and made me feel less crazy about my inherent belief that the information must have been overblown.

@imtony

Жыл бұрын

I’m also planning for a monitor. Does it give the retina look at 3840x2160?

Hello there... thank for this video! So when it comes to Blender, which 32" Monitor would you go for if you're using an M1 Max? Thanks for your help :)

Excellent video, I expected the scaling to work similarly to windows, but it seams it supersamples the image, which in the end it has pros and cons.

I just don’t understand why Apple won’t let us change size of system font. We could use monitors native resolutions and adjust interface

@Ryan-sn6gn

Жыл бұрын

You’d still have a problem with file and app sizes on the screen

@SokoladoFabrikas

Жыл бұрын

because interface design system is not a piece of water

@joekim3902

Жыл бұрын

Windows does that already and scaling on 4k displays is an absolute shitshow

@ellandill

10 ай бұрын

@@joekim3902 fonts on windows looks a way better on 27'' 4k than on mac, even comparing same applications like chrome or evernote

@michaelriga6431

8 ай бұрын

@@ellandillAgreed! I have a 4k LG Ultrafine on WIndows everything looks a lot better. Even SuperHuman looks better!

Great video man!

I had'nt seen any good explanation obout the scaling issue, until now!

Hey Kyle, great video! I'm purchasing a Mac Studio in a few days and still undecided with a monitor. Microsoft, LRC, PS, & Topaz is generally what I used. Any recommendations on an affordable one? Thx!

Thanks mate, helpful!

Great video as always. Thanks. Love your-shirt. Where did you get it?

@KyleErickson

Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t tell you! No idea

@kmcsmart

Жыл бұрын

@@KyleErickson ok, just mail me your shirt ;)

Kyle, excellent video, thank you for posting. Question, if you use a WUHD display, e.g. 34” native 3440 x 1440 or 38” native 3880 x 1600 does Apple still scale this up to 5K and then down to the native resolution?

Noone talks about DisplayPort vs HDMI, but that also makes big difference. I had blurry texts as well when I got a 4k and QHD connected simultaneously, but resolved it by using a USB-c to Display Port cable instead of HDMI.

Great video, do you think running dual 4k would have an additional impacts? I have noticed some challenges when running MS PowerPoint while on a zoom call In presentation mode

@markeissler

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what @KyleErickson refers to in his video...reports of performance issues that can possibly be attributed to hardware capabilities. Someone with a maxed out mbp (m1 max) is less likely to have problems here vs someone running with something like a mbp air (m1/m2). I just watched a review for a 4k 32" display by a software engineer that complained about performance problems and then also noted his mbp only had one video output...so that would be a base model??

Good explanation... We needed to get this ironed.

He did a video no one asked and I’m so glad he did that. Very informative.

Excellent Explanation !

Really great video! Just a comment regarding the explanation at the beginning of the "4K Scaled Performance" section. We can't compare pooling and batching to actual screen refresh because those are two completely different things. Batching saves CPU and memory, which is great and highly appreciated, but that's completely unrelated to refreshing the display. I know it's just an example, but I feel like the comparison and conclusion isn't relevant to the video. Displays do need to redraw 60+ times per second and the Mac does need to render at a given resolution and downscale every time. This doesn't mean things need to be recalculated, but again, this has absolutely nothing to do with the display. And finally, this isn't as terrible for performance as it sounds. You can think of it as taking a screenshot and resizing it. Once everything is rendered and you get the final (for example) 5K image you just need to downscale it, which is fairly quick and explains why there's virtually no difference between native and downscaled resolutions.

Excellently done!

I got a mb pro 16 2019 with 16gb ram and i7 and sometimes my mac slows down a lot with 2 4k monitor and the scaling to 1440p. With the new silicon chips maybe it's not an issue but with my config sometimes gives me problems... I wish i had bought 2 qhd monitors and not 4k or even a super ultra wide .

Thanks for that one! 🙏🏻

After researching on this issue and watching other videos on this specific topic I came to the conclusion MacOS takes the info from the monitor to determine if it is "Retina capable" based on the pixel density and the target number is 220 ppi. People with 27"4K have to juggle around and play with the scaling to get something that works for them. As I was using a 23" 1080p and my objective was better image quality for my sight (instead of screen real state) I opted for a budget 24" 4K from LG which, apart of manually adjusting the color calibration, it enabled the Retina scaling by default and I didn't need any hacks. I'm using an MBA M1 8Gb with Big Sur.

@reinercraja

9 ай бұрын

" budget 24" 4K from LG" what is the model number

@ortsaslan

2 ай бұрын

And how 4k monitor work with MBA m1 8gb? Is there lagging or other difficulties because of 8gb? I have this MBA too, and looking for monitor. I'm not that satisfied with my 2k 27 monitor.

@jdelgadocr

2 ай бұрын

@@ortsaslanmy 24” 4k works great. Very nice. I would like to get a 27” 4k 144hz for smoothness but M1 won’t handle that. I’ll need to get an MBP M2 Pro/Max first to have high refresh rate.

@jdelgadocr

Ай бұрын

@@ortsaslan The 24" 4K monitor has been working like a charm. No video issues of any kind. I'm planning on my next HW upgrade already: 4K with a high refresh rate (120-144Hz) instead of the standard 60Hz. For this, I've found 2 caveats: 1 - no 23-24" 4K monitor with a high refresh rate in the market so a 27" will have to do. It would mean around 10% less PPI but it's acceptable as overall eyesight strain will be lower. 2 - The M1 family doesn't support high refresh rate video. Only from M2 onwards. Well... I was already thinking of an M2 Max 32GB anyway! 😉

I'm running a MacBook Pro M2 Max in clamshell with (2) Dell 27" 4K external monitors set at 1920x1080 (HiDPI). Works well for my purposes. Crispy display and no performance issues. Toggle the "Show all resolutions" setting to select HiDPI mode.

@berndnuel508

3 ай бұрын

Same / prefer also $K 27" Dell

I’m searching for a new monitor for an M1 Mini and debating between 27inch 4K and 24inch 1440p. So this video did help, but I’m still stuck with this question… Which should be better, the 27 scaled to 1440p or the 24 inch at 1440p??

What display settings do you use on your LG in terms of scaling size and HDR? I'm trying to decide the sweet spot for my LG 32UN650 on a Mac Studio M2 for photo and astrophotography editing.

You're nearly the only one that says don't worry too much about it. This whole conundrum about native scaling gave me headaches, 'cause I didn't want my MacBook to feel sluggish. But my base MacBook Air M1 has no problem at all running a 4k 27" display monitor. Just as you said. What I mean is thank you. PD: I bought a QHD monitor, used it with better display at a HiDPI, and decided to return it for a 4k monitor.

@zaaap0

4 ай бұрын

It won't be sluggish as probably 99% of macbook pro users dont use >80% of it's potential. But text will look bad, images are not that sharp also.

@vladibarraza

4 ай бұрын

@@zaaap0 Before I used the app Better Display the text wasn't sharp, but that app solved those problems you mentioned.

I really like your real-world approach to your testing, although you‘ve missed a pretty important point in regards to 3D rendering performance: as long as you‘re rendering something like cinebench where you‘re outputting a specific resolution, of course there‘s no change in performance because the workload is literally the same. When you‘re rendering a 1080p image, you‘re always rendering a 1080p image no matter the scaling. Now if you take a look at realtime rendering performance, like the blender viewport, you will definitely see a performance impact because the viewport is rendering at a resolution based on your internal resolution. So 1x scaling renders at the displays native 4k resolution while something like 1.5x renders at an internal 5k resolution which will demand a lot more from the GPU. With simple scenes not a big deal. But when your scene becomes more complex, that impact will become increasingly noticeable.

@iamdragonetta

Жыл бұрын

Why not use a 5k monitor instead of a 4k monitor, if the 1.5x renders at an internal 5k resolution?

@axelsfirst

Жыл бұрын

@@iamdragonetta Either price of buying one or maybe quality od displays, 5k monitors do not have true HDR, like QD-LED monitors, so they could be much better for watching movies.

@markeissler

Жыл бұрын

@@iamdragonetta Where are these 5k monitors coming from? There is only one 5k option right now: Apple Studio Display. That's the whole problem. The world has settled on 4k monitors (and the occasional 8k) but Apple has settled on 5k and 6k monitors. What sucks more is that Apple has decided to only offer one choice at each resolution.

@chidorirasenganz

Жыл бұрын

@@markeissler LG has their 5k monitor as well but 4k is usable on smaller displays such as the old Intel 21.5in iMac and the new M1 24in iMac. As far as other options I’m sure they are coming sooner than later

@smashedlegends

Жыл бұрын

@@markeissler 27 inch from Apple is not an option. Its way too small to be an option.

Great video!

Just bought a 4k monitor(Samsung ur55, 4k, 28') and running it off an m1 air 8gb. No issues so far, I use it mainly for school work and software development.

@davidrenoz

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I have the same setup, and I'm finding the text blurred

Very good! I avoided 4K because I seen the same video as you haha. I might consider it as my second monitor then, which can bounce between a work and PS5 monitor

Man, I thought about making this video but this is so good I don't think I have anything to contribute. This is a great video,.

@KyleErickson

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thanks! I really appreciate it!

Nice explanation! But I still have this question related to scaling. Say I have macOS scaled to 1440p on a 4k screen and when I play a 4k video fullscreen will that be scaled down or native 4k? Thanks!

@Minsetti

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The real resolution of your display is still 4K no matter the scaling so the video plays at 4K. The scaling just makes the UI elements look like they are the same size than on a 1440p display.

Nice explanation! I own a Mac mini M2 8gb of ram. Could be any problem on performances for the low ram of the Mac if I chose a 27” 4k monitor? Thank you

I just got the LG 40" 40wp95-w, it's a 5k2k monitor. Scaling issue is there but barely noticeable, the blurriness is minimal and I haven't had any performance issues. The default resolution makes the interface very tiny and the next native resolution without the scaling/performance warning makes the interface huge. So to hit the sweet spot I have to used a scaled resolution. Thanks for this video and all the research/ tests performed.. I feel at ease knowing I shouldn't worry about scaling issues since this monitor was a big investment.

@Brithor

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What chip are you using? I'm looking at buying this monitor but worried my base M2 chip is not going to cut it.

@EnokMadrid

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@@Brithor M1 Mac mini

@markeissler

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@@Brithor Probably not a good idea. Neither is the M1 Mac mini. They just don't have the GPU processing power and I bet that for every negative review you see on KZread or threads like this it probably comes down to: 1) I'm running an Intel Mac; 2) I'm running the most affordable base model M1/M2 MB or MBP I could find. You're likely to find better success with a native 5k monitor (the 5k2k is just a gimmick, it's 5k horizontally but it's a 4k vertically) otherwise you'll still run into needing to scale and a lesser machine just won't perform well.

@EnokMadrid

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Mac mini, M1 with 16gb ram... I run design software with large files. Video editing. Zoom calls while presenting my screen with all design and browser software running. So far so good, I haven't had performance issues from the monitor. It's all smooth.

good learning experience on your video but I was wondering about connections and 4k - 5k . Connection what is the best to connect m1 m2 base to monitor hdmi / displayport / usb c / thunderbold 3-4 also which K is better on the m1 m2 4K or 5K . I haven't bought my studio yet and I want to make I a good monitor with no issues . BTW the monitor I connect to the studio would be greater size of 34 inches ti maybe 38" in wide monitor and maybe 43" in regular 16/9

What would be the best choice of 23" and larger monitors for Mac Mini M2 8GB? Should i avoid 4K's and settle with QHD? Thanks.

2:27 that part is what I mean. Is there a setting for this or is it supposed to be automatic. This is a lot to take in, and I kind of understand it. On the rescaling info, when I try to change the display resolution from default to the next on up, or even the highest resolution which on my Mac is 3456x2234 all the text and icons are too small. Is there a way to adjust the text size without effecting the screen resolution.

What resolution do you reccomend for a LG32UN88A-W using a basic mac studio Max?. Primarily for photography. Regards

A video I didn’t even know I wanted to watch. Cheers.

Is it just the UI that gets scaled, not the actual pixels on the screen? Ie. if I run photoshop, will it still display 4K pixels with regards to the image, but with the UI elements scaled to 1080/1440? Or are you basically turning a 4K screen into a 1080/1440 screen, hence negating the whole point of having the 4K?

Have you tested older MacBook Pros (eg 2018) with a 4k monitor like the Dell U2723QE? Does the image look okay, and would it perform okay for editing in Final Cut Pro?

Thanks for this video. QHD seems to be the best choice monitor for those that cannot afford a $3k 5k iMac or Apple 5k Monitor in general.