Will said something that we all know in some contexts, but has really crystallized for me recently: Contrary to right-wing myth, enduring hardship or abuse does not usually make you a better person. I fact, it usually makes you a worse person. This myth ends up being destructive in so many ways, not just when "pacifying" populations. Take Justice Thomas, who suffered brutal poverty and abuse as a child. Did it make him stronger? maybe in some ways. Probably "tougher" or "more callous" is more like it. But not only does he set a misleading example for the right to take advantage of, he also bought into the myth himself, allowing his callousness to inform his decisions

@OrangeStrayCat

9 ай бұрын

Broadly speaking I would say suffering offers people a choice between good and evil. Having suffered forces you to choose whether you think no one should suffer like you did, or wanting payback, which tends to be generalized instead of put only on the people responsible for it, if there even are people responsible for it instead of random chance (Thomas has clearly taken the second route). That does assume you're able to endure the suffering though. People who are tortured usually come out the other side insane after all. I'm not sure where the conditions in Gaza fall on the routine hardship to torture spectrum, but it might not be a situation where the normal rules can be applied very well.

Friends don’t let friends build illegal settlements.

@Jeffberg42

8 ай бұрын

Now that's some world-class comedy right there. Kudos. Laughs are few and far between just now. Merci.

My view on the conflict is a lot like when I look back on United States history; you read a part about how a fort, or a frontier town, or a wagon train was massacred by natives, and you feel sympathy for those poor families. But ya kinda know WHY the Indians did it.

@banjo304

9 ай бұрын

Exactly, 100% the way I've been thinking about it. You can argue whether individual settlers are to blame. Somehow I find it hard to be ok with killing women and children, go figure. But if you told the Indians in early America and Canada exactly what was going to be happening to them in 50, 100 years? They probably would agree that they didn't kill ENOUGH settlers.

@ultravioletiris6241

9 ай бұрын

💯

@mortystraphouse5077

9 ай бұрын

bro yes the regular ppl of Palestine live in dystopian apartheid, north korea with war crimes. but hamas is just as bad as isreal. they r both awful. its like nazi's vs nazi's. and both of them way too religious. its 2023 u dont get to use all the tech and meds and pretend its 500 b.c. hamas leaders r disgusting as isreali leaders.

@HesGotaGun505

9 ай бұрын

@@mortystraphouse5077Rick and morty fan with the -1000 IQ take

@Praisethesunson

9 ай бұрын

America finished the job Israel can't.

im sure this comment section is going to be totally reasonable in discussing this topic and not full of extremely deranged people

@undeniablyfunk5497

9 ай бұрын

I’m gay

@adriandavies8097

9 ай бұрын

people already talking about marrying cousins, elephants and hook noses

@deborshigoswami5810

9 ай бұрын

It’s unhinged out here today.

You guys are right on the money with your all of your commentary regarding the normalization of violence against the Palestinians vs. the shock over the violence against Israelis. All of it: the acceptance of the "cleanliness" of airstrike warfare vs. the visceral reaction to the violence and atrocities of Hamas militants; the complete removal of any context to the discussion (i.e. decades of occupation, violence, and degradation); etc. I too was appalled by the easy slide into racist bloodlust that followed in the wake of 9/11 here in the States, and there are certainly echoes of it across the social media sphere right now. I don't propose any easy solution to this crisis, but the calls to "bomb Gaza flat" sure as hell aren't it.

@lanceblankenship9995

9 ай бұрын

"A young woman who was perhaps his secretary, and who was sitting with her back to Winston, was listening to him and seemed to be eagerly agreeing with everything that he said. From time to time Winston caught some such remark as 'I think you're so right, I do so agree with you', uttered in a youthful and rather silly feminine voice. But the other voice never stopped for an instant, even when the girl was speaking. Winston knew the man by sight, though he knew no more about him than that he held some important post in the Fiction Department. He was a man of about thirty, with a muscular throat and a large, mobile mouth. His head was thrown back a little, and because of the angle at which he was sitting, his spectacles caught the light and presented to Winston two blank discs instead of eyes. What was slightly horrible, was that from the stream of sound that poured out of his mouth it was almost impossible to distinguish a single word. Just once Winston caught a phrase -'complete and final elimination of Goldsteinism'- jerked out very rapidly and, as it seemed, all in one piece, like a line of type cast solid. For the rest it was just a noise, a quack-quack-quacking. And yet, though you could not actually hear what the man was saying, you could not be in any doubt about its general nature. He might be denouncing Goldstein and demanding sterner measures against thought-criminals and saboteurs, he might be fulminating against the atrocities of the Eurasian army, he might be praising Big Brother or the heroes on the Malabar front -- it made no difference. Whatever it was, you could be certain that every word of it was pure orthodoxy, pure Ingsoc. As he watched the eyeless face with the jaw moving rapidly up and down, Winston had a curious feeling that this was not a real human being but some kind of dummy. It was not the man's brain that was speaking, it was his larynx. The stuff that was coming out of him consisted of words, but it was not speech in the true sense: it was a noise uttered in unconsciousness, like the quacking of a duck." Orwell, 1984

@gobblu

9 ай бұрын

​@lanceblankenship9995 you just keep this copied in case you disagree with someone's agreeing? Soooo 1984 dude.

@cryptbeast3222

9 ай бұрын

A lot of that bloodlust comes from Americas own history as a genocidal colonial project, former Apartheid state and rampant imperialist nation that has never been fully reckoned with. Dehumanizing the other until their deaths and suffering are normal, while violence and suffering of the "Better" races is an instant tragedy. It would take an unbelievable amount of deprogramming, probably over a couple generations, to really undo the hatred that has been fostered as the norm for so long.

@Thyinternet

9 ай бұрын

@@lanceblankenship9995 Brave New World was better, there was more fucking

Wish Christman was around for this. He would have much to say

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, he'd say that any crimes against the more privileged are justified because the only good in the world is when pain is shared equally. Equalize the amount of pain everyone feels so we realize We Are All One, that's what he says on CushBomb, that's his religion, his God. I hope he recovers as perfectly as possible, because I don't think the way he does.

@jm6406

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 you are a raving psychopath

@returnalnocturnal7729

9 ай бұрын

​@@jm6406Yeah that's the comments section in Chapo videos. You've got either normal people commenting or cracked out libertarians and conservatives shitting their pants and crying for multiple paragraphs. It's depressing and hilarious

@MrKYT-gb8gs

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 yeah, reasonable take. Makes sense to me.

@fuzzydumpling9829

9 ай бұрын

Can you do me a favor? Can you say you wish Christman was here on every episode forever?

Three weeks without Matt and this happens. Our boy was holding the world together with all his orgone

@jsdldfsfsdf

9 ай бұрын

You gotta admit he did pick a good week to have a serious medical emergency

@Fleshdeficiency

9 ай бұрын

Literally fucking Atlas holding the world on his back. No wonder he got so sick.

The preponderance of violence even including the most recent Hamas attack was overwhelmingly on Israel’s side and there is something especially gross about being forced to apologize and only allowed to add Israel is also bad in the footnotes (if at all) after condemning Hamas at a moment when Israel is levelling and bombing apartments and starving and genociding its captive population of Palestinians in Gaza with full western backing (where most of the people asking for anyone who condemns Israel to apologize before being allowed to say Israel is bad come from). It really feels like being asked to condemn the NLF (Vietcong)/North Vietnamese violence as American planes carpet bomb Hanoi and turn Laos into the surface of the moon and kill thousands.

Every Chapo has one issue they really care about that relates to larger point about their life/upbringing Felix - zionism and Israel Will - the media, mainly print and esp. the NYT Matt - control/distribution of labor surplus Amber - rights for workers Chris - audio levels Virgil - age of consent laws

Unimaginable how horrible it must be just trying to live during normal times under that awful situation, let alone now. It is just so painful to see all the voices of reason being ignored.

@howwitty

9 ай бұрын

It's annoying to see Zionist Jews destroying property in the US. But their blank emotionless faces as they spew hateful, sarcastic, racist bullshit is unlike anything I have ever seen. They are so self righteous because of the brainwashing that it always seems to end with them telling the property owner(s) to call the cops. They apparently feel politically motivated and legally empowered to terrorize people in the US.

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

@@howwitty The people saying to glass Gaza are disgusting. Don't ignore that we also live in a world where crowds are chanting "gas the ****" outside of the Sydney Opera House, and where a bunch of white DSA hipsters praised the Hamas fighters and said the ravers were "having a great time until the resistance came in electrified hang gliders and took at least several dozen hipsters" and then everyone cheered.

@howwitty

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 Yeah, but I'm not sure that really measures up to the sociopathic Sderot cinema. Irony has lost all meaning in this war. Why give Israeli Jews victim status, because they're a minority in Israel? Also, pretty cool story about the electrified hang gliders. I've never seen one of those or a Palestinian in person.

@5508Vanderdekken

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286sorry, who is genociding who?

Free Palestine

Israel deserves as much sympathy as apartheid-era South Africa did.

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

Nelson Mandela didn't want to expel every Afrikaner from South Africa from the border to the sea. Hamas does, deranged privileged white DSAers who cheer on Hamas do.

@returnalnocturnal7729

9 ай бұрын

​@@coreyander286so like 60k people spread across the country? Oh wow what an opposition. Now let's talk about the millions of people supporting Isreals plan to remove Palestianians from their land you lemming

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

@@returnalnocturnal7729 So you're saying ethnic cleansing of 60K people would be wrong, but ethnic cleansing of 7M people is justified? Talk about perverse incentives.

@I_can_do_20_push-ups

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286what would you think the chance of them actually doing that are? 0.000001% or closer to 0.0000000000001%?

@hoboroadie4623

9 ай бұрын

Amnesty and forgiveness? I think that ship was shelled when it tried to leave the harbor.

Why do so called allies love to equate Palestine with Ukraine? Last I checked, Palestine isn’t being propped up by US weapons, Israel is.

@frolicsomgaiety

9 ай бұрын

Nice

@nickrails

9 ай бұрын

Because both Russia and Israel are illegally stealing land via application of state violence.

@freakyzed8467

9 ай бұрын

Never use 'so called.' It's demeaning to all sides. Use facts and not emotion.

@hoboroadie4623

9 ай бұрын

I have no allies. Last I checked, Israel is equateable to Ukraine. 🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇦🇺🇸

From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free.

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

Where do you want the 7 million Jewish Israelis to go? How will you humanely get them to leave? Self-deportation, like what Nick Fuentes says when he swears removing nonwhites from the US doesn't have to be bloody? Do you think all 7 million of the Jewish Israelis have summer homes in Long Island? Only 30% of Israelis are Ashkenazi, more Jewish Israelis are from the Middle East, North Africa or the USSR.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

In your wet dreams. I bet Israel is gonna turn Gaza into a giant Walmart parking lot and i have my popcorn ready 🍿

@cryptbeast3222

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 They will stay and adjust or leave if they have the money once Israel goes the way of Rhodesia.

@qwert0

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 back to Europe lol

@slickstufneatstuf

9 ай бұрын

England. @@coreyander286

I've attended many "Bush doof" music festivals like the one raided in Israel, but the idea of doing drugs and dancing to psytrance right next to a fucking concentration camp with ppl having their homes colonized every day is sickening. Time and a place, ffs

@ultravioletiris6241

9 ай бұрын

I’m holding my next rave with members of the international community right outside the Warsaw ghetto

@macnsteez3938

9 ай бұрын

@@ultravioletiris6241 like an fbg duck tribute held on O-Block

@ItsOgre

9 ай бұрын

I wonder what the response would be if the allies bombed or concentration camp prisoners broke out and shot up a ball or festival of concentration camp guards and part time Wehrmacht soldiers and their families outside the gates of Auschwitz with the ashes of dead people falling all around?

@user-ig4dl4iv1j

9 ай бұрын

Maybe you could say that about the foreigners who went out of their way to travel there for the festival but it's a 75-year-old kibbutz, dude, the kibbutz is literally older than the Israeli occupation of Gaza. Israeli military and settlers are still responsible for the majority of the violence and its disgusting that the western media is overlooking the murder of Palestinian civilians by Israel but cmon don't just make shit up based on vibes

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

I know it might not seem like you need to say that that doesn't justify the bush doofer's being murdered, beaten and kidnapped, but actually you do need to say that that doesn't justify the bush doofer's being murdered, beaten and kidnapped.

people can relate to going to a music festival but can't relate to living in gaza. Palestinians are expected to suffer in silence for their sins of being born in this part of the world. If you are young and didn't understand how the Iraq war were that popular at the time well you can see it clearly happening now the dehumanizing of Palestinians has exceeded post 911 rhetoric and the propaganda machine is playing the same old notes. I wish we have learned from our mistakes.

@lotoreo

9 ай бұрын

just a heads up, there's an awkward typo in the second sentence of what you wrote

@sherifnour183

9 ай бұрын

English is my second language can you point it out pls?@@lotoreo

@sherifnour183

9 ай бұрын

Never mind I got it. Thanks @@lotoreo

@lotoreo

9 ай бұрын

@@sherifnour183 you fixed it, no worries

@bitteralmonds666

9 ай бұрын

A music festival in an apartheid state… coincidentally, isreal supported s0uth africa and rh0desia back in the day. 🧉🦄👌🏽

When I was a kid I saw a bunch of poor kids throwing rocks at tanks and bulldozers demolishing their homes and I've been a fan of those kids since because it was the modern day David Vs Goliath story. Now those kids have grown up and replaced the rocks with rocket launchers and those tanks are now up in smoke and it's indescribable how good it feels to see Goliath take a Mike Tyson uppercut to the jaw.

@Thyinternet

8 ай бұрын

Didn’t Mike Tyson rape someone ?

Apartheid policies are to blame for this.

Free Palestine 🧉🦄✌🏽

Free Palestine 🇵🇸

15:00 anyone who thinks irregular forces can’t strategize never went to high school…

🎶From the River, to the Sea🎶

Palestinians deserve freedom from Israeli tyranny. They also deserve better than Hamas

@user-ig4dl4iv1j

9 ай бұрын

If only there was a political philosophy that historically opposed both Zionism and Islamism

@Praisethesunson

9 ай бұрын

@@user-ig4dl4iv1j Communism?

@joshuamarx8209

9 ай бұрын

You peckerwood Americans shouldnt have gotten rid of powerful Left Wing politics then..

@just_a_turtle_chad

9 ай бұрын

​@@user-ig4dl4iv1jcommunism? Hasn't that failed everywhere it's been tried?

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

​@@just_a_turtle_chadVietnam is doing p okay, even if it's not "full communism" (which hasn't ever existed).

How is what’s happening today any different from the Warsaw ghetto uprising

@AnwarKarimi-tc1xg

9 ай бұрын

It's not

@Terbyn

9 ай бұрын

The rapes and baby killings?

@Alexander_Speaks

9 ай бұрын

@@TerbynThe ones that just so happened to have been unconfirmed and quietly dropped from major news talking points?? 🤔

@anthonybencivengo6901

9 ай бұрын

... That the Warsaw Ghetto Jews attacked military targets?

@tonycampbell1424

9 ай бұрын

​@anthonybencivengo6901 And Nakam sought to kill 6 million German civilians as retribution for the Holocaust. What about it?

Felix didn’t crack one joke the whole time. This was the hardest show to listen to.

@5508Vanderdekken

9 ай бұрын

Damn - what’s the “Felix isn’t funny” guy going to do now?

@GayTier1Operator

9 ай бұрын

@@5508Vanderdekkenlmao i thought the same thing 9:27

@frolicsomgaiety

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m not here for news from guys who think Ukraine is too spicy, I’m here for memeing about Mobilized Handglider Divisions and Hamas tricking the IDF by ALSO wearing big floppy berets

Took me 3 days to gather up the courage to expose myself to the potential depression that this thing would probably give me.

Big propaganda energy in the comments today

@alexmeyer2222

9 ай бұрын

Where did these people come from seriously

Excellent interview. Thank you. One point people constantly make about the Israeli Palestinian conflict is, "How can Israel deal with an enemy which does not recognize its (Israel's) right to exist?" The response should be, "the Palestinian Authority did recognize Israel, what have Palestinians gained from it?"

@ChannelMath

9 ай бұрын

Hasn't Hamas also made it clear that they would recognize Israel if Israel withdrew to the '67 borders? I've heard something like this several times

@justcommenting4981

9 ай бұрын

No the response should be that Israel doesn't acknowledge the right of Palestine to exist, thus creates millions of refugees we call Palestinians.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

This is no justification to behead Jewish toddlers.

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

​@@TruthSeekernplnobody has done that

@stevenagelutton4322

9 ай бұрын

@@TruthSeekernpl keep repeating the lie champ, maybe someone will believe it eventually!

The way that anti-communist historians write up the Partisan wars against German occupation, especially in Yugoslavia, is that they were wrong to fight the Germans because the Germans did reprisal massacres, and that they should instead have sat on their hands and waited for the Allies to come. So we've seen this line that it's the victim's fault for resisting and that all the massacres perpetrated by the occupier are on the resistance's hands before. And it's the same people always effectively advocating collaboration with Nazis and pogromists, like in Ukraine where the active swastika-tattooed aspect of the Washington-installed fascist regime is completely whitewashed because "Putin Bad".

@ultravioletiris6241

9 ай бұрын

@Shinshocks555 It comports with the facts of the situation. You should probably stop watching CNN

@macnsteez3938

9 ай бұрын

​@Shinshocks555 I dunno about Washington-installed (not out of the question at all with how the media heroise Zelensky) but they certainly seem fascist. Not just the Azov battalion or other far right militants either- Zelensky himself banned all the leftist parties from participating in elections a couple of years before russia invaded. Pretty damn fascist imo

@5508Vanderdekken

9 ай бұрын

@Shinshocks555there’s literally a recording of the deputy Secretary of State choosing the post coup Ukraine administration officials. Do some f u c k i n g research

Israelis in the comment section proving the stereotype that they’re bad tourists

Maybe this is a dumb question, but the issue of these attacks making things worse for Gaza came up a couple times in the episode which as far as I can tell were dismissed because things are as bad as they can get already, but is there actually anything stopping Israel from taking the one obvious worse step of just killing everyone in Gaza? It's not like they'd have to occupy the place if they can bombard at will and shut off all food and water going in, and Israel never seems to pay any diplomatic penalty for what they do even when they don't have some cover story of having no choice but to hit back at Gaza. Is outright wiping out Gaza really a step too far for Israel after all the horrible things it already does, or is there actually something external holding them back?

@ZepawFox

9 ай бұрын

Is it technically possible? I guess. But it's the kind of doomerism where you may as well constantly be freaking out how many could launch a nuke anywhere at any given moment.

@pipefx64

9 ай бұрын

there will likely be limits to how far they can go. much like in the 80s when they invaded lebanon to eradicate the PLO, eventually the massacres of lebanese and palestinian civilians went on for so long and became so egregious that you had reagan of all people telling them to dial it back because the tide of public opinion was shifting so significantly against israel. also, the thing israel fears more than anything is hezbollah joining the conflict in any significant way. if that happens it becomes a genuine possibility that israel is cowed militarily and collapses as a society. in this interview mohammad downplays that likelihood, but a major part of hezbollah's entire raison d'etre with their base is this ideological commitment to liberating palestine. so it becomes a balancing act of not dragging lebanon as a whole into a destructive war vs. the need to not completely lose their base as they do nothing while israel steamrolls gaza. hopefully this all limits things to some extent. but we are in a completely unprecedented situation, and there is a real chance they will push to genuinely, finally ethnically cleanse the whole of gaza

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

If Israel could glass Gaza without any risk of repercussions, you wouldn't see their spokespeople and allies saying that they are taking efforts to keep Gazan civilian deaths to a minimum. You can well say they're lying about taking those efforts, they don't really care, but they wouldn't even say such things if they literally think no one will ever hold them accountable.

@dirtycelinefrenchman

9 ай бұрын

Israel is reliant on the U.S. for military aid. (Over $3 billion a year). How will this be defended by US govt and NYT columnists? How do they continue to portray Israel as victims and having the right to defend themselves if they’ve wiped an entire population of 2 million long-suffering people off the map?

@MorlockTrxsh

9 ай бұрын

Israel would not survive the blowback from such an unjustifiable act. The international community would fully turn on them. Amerikkkan public support amongst the youth under 30 is already really tenuous so it would jeopardize their main alliance. Like my man pointed out the whole reason to do the Gaza siege at all is so they don't have to do that. They want to displace and outbreed the Palestinians as quietly as possible. There's world's of difference between slow manifest destiny style genocide and the quick systematic liquidation of 2.5 million men, women, and children in a small area like Gaza. Think about what it would take to do that. There would have to be fuckin literal actual death camps. What an irony that would be. The world just wouldn't stand for it it would be a PR nightmare that would make Russia's invasion of Ukraine look like a fucking bar fight.

Ethnic cleansing is not very speed boat dope

Peace love and solidarity with all suffering people.

" Plain and mountain, rock and ocean, From the Shannon to the sea. Ireland, Ireland, ’fore the wide world, Ireland one and Ireland free! "

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

Yes, Ireland should unify. Not sure what you're getting at, Lance.

@deathmagneto-soy

9 ай бұрын

Erin go Braugh, tiocfaidh ár lá ☘ ✊

wow so many fascists in the comments

Felix huckin DARTS today… Dan Carlin better keep his head in the trench when he’s drawing his dumb bird

Wow. I am speechless but feel like I have way more information now

@Puketapu

9 ай бұрын

Also, David Pakman really needs to listen to this

@warmlycalculated390

7 ай бұрын

@@Puketapu Pakman is notoriously trash on Israel. And on most things outside of some domestic policies.

Very good discussion thanks

Send Seth Rogan over there , he helped Kanye maybe he can set a two part solution

@lanceblankenship9995

9 ай бұрын

"hey there, Abdul (awkward laugh), wanna hit this bong with me? (awkward laugh), there's more where that came fr- *takes bullet to the head*

We love you Palestine. Keep fighting ❤ 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

@libertariansasquatch

9 ай бұрын

Keep cheering on those rapist and baby murderers, my guy

@hoboroadie4623

9 ай бұрын

🇪🇭✌@@libertariansasquatch

Worth the wait

i know its just his broadcast voice, but will always sounds way too chipper to be discussing things like this.

Free P

We have watched covid rip through and officials be fine with collateral damage not to mention events previous to covid so why would we think Netanyahu would care about hostages being taken?

@ongobongo8333

9 ай бұрын

this is making bibi look really bad, he may lose power and the conflict may actually become more peaceful as a leftist coalition takes power

@deborshigoswami5810

9 ай бұрын

@@ongobongo8333on your side but this is cope. This will end with genocide. The west won’t entertain any other possibility

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

Same reason Republicans saw 9/11 as worse than COVID, when a virus kills your friends and family it's an impersonal natural distaster, when a human kills your friends and family it's personal.

@WootaY

9 ай бұрын

they dont care about hostages, look up the hannibal directive

Managing the calories allowed to enter to keep them just above starvation. Sounds like holocaust tactics. Chilling.

Thank you Mr. Alsaafin. Incredible podcast guys.

The idea that people in Gaza have never even seen an Israeli before really shook me. What does someone in Gaza even think an israeli looks and acts like?

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

This is no justification to behead Jewish toddlers.

@thephlophers

9 ай бұрын

The people sleeping in their homes in Gaza getting blown up by Israeli bombings are beheading toddlers? Even that is burying the lede. At this point not even the IDF corroborated that blatant atrocity propaganda, it is that ridiculous.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

@@thephlopherswe have eyes bro. We are seeing it in the media. Also those people sleeping in their homes, they should have told their government not to do this crazy sht. Now they deserve what’s coming to them.

@HotTakeYeller

9 ай бұрын

​@@TruthSeekernpl This is something an idiot would believe.

@kalbrymer8555

9 ай бұрын

​@TruthSeekernpl there is no justification to blow up Palestinian toddlers.

Israel is reaping what they have sowed. This will be the end of Bibi. He promised safety at the cost of humanity, and lost both.

@noidontlikeu

9 ай бұрын

It might go bad enough for him to get ousted in a military coup

@Luminousreign

9 ай бұрын

He is fine. The only real flak he is getting domestically pushed the narrative that violence was inevitable. Which implies that it couldn’t be avoided because the domestic sentiment is that totally alleviating the conditions was impossible. The only way his power gets threatened is if he doesn’t “resolve” the issue.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

Omg !! Send these idiots to live in Gaza. How can Israel lift seize from Gaza when the ruling regime of that area don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist? All this blaming of Israel and not a single word of condemnation towards folks who were shot at Music festivals, farms and houses. Kidnapped bare naked being paraded as some kinda war trophy. I come from Nepal. We had no enmity with Palestines. We had few talented students who went to Israel to study agriculture. Hamas came and they said they were from Nepal. They were gunned down , nonetheless. How can you have peace with these animals ? I ain’t saying all Arabs or Muslims or Palestinians are animals. But Hamas surely is . And if they were not capable of defending their territory after kicking the hornet nest, they shouldn’t have kicked it in the first place. Also Hamas is elected by people of Gaza, so they deserve everything coming to them. These fat socialists living in a first world country eating taco bell quesadillas are saying “ what avenue they have other than armed resistance?” Are you serious ? Did these idiots seriously condoned mass shooting of everyday innocent people on KZread.

@hemingshark327

9 ай бұрын

he'll be fine :(

@Janon48

9 ай бұрын

Weird how fascist “strong men” always end up making their countries weaker

First (Intifada)

@bitteralmonds666

9 ай бұрын

We were here first before your first. It’s mine now 🧉🦄

Treat men like monsters don’t be surprised when they attack you etc aand poof everyone forgets about Ukraine and Eastern NATO encirclement

interacting

Palestine deserves better than Hamas, and Israel deserves better than Netanyahu. Israel are the aggressor state, the imperial invader. Supposed historical ties from the ancient world to the land are meaningless, the land isn't holy, its the opposite of holy after all the blood we've shed there. The people least guilty in this equation suffer the most. Hamas' actions against civilians are no more warranted than Israel's actions against civilians, but they are understandable as an outlet of the pent up rage the 2 million people in Gaza strip feel after being housed in the world's largest open air prison complex, and Israel's extreme excessive violent overreactions are not really warranted as a self defense measure. Like they are going to flatten Gaza now. That isn't justifiable regardless the actions of Hamas this past weekend. That said, Hamas doesn't do itself or the Palestinian people any favors parading out dead bodies of women and children, even if some of those people are in fact Israeli soldiers just not in uniform at the time. Ultimately, there are no good solutions to this equation. The original sin here was letting Israel form after WW2 in Palestine. The US and Canada had plenty of good, arable land, with sufficient access to the oceans. We could have easily taken a chunk of land from both states along their border, near Washington State or Maine for instance, and created New Israel for the post WW2 refugees. The world chose to create a powderkeg in the Middle East instead and this is the consequences of our collective stupidities. I'd be lying if I said, at 43, after decades of watching this conflict reignite over and over again, that I have any real solutions to offer. I have none.

@cryptbeast3222

9 ай бұрын

I think the location served a purpose of locking white Imperial interests into the Middle East. They were originally going to choose spots all over the world including South America and some African countries like Uganda (but not on their own land as you suggested). They wanted most Jewish people out of their countries while also playing the role of white supremacy wherever else they put the colony. Israel was always going to be a colonial nightmare, even if it wasn't in its current location.

@ItsOgre

9 ай бұрын

@@cryptbeast3222it would have worked and been totally justified on moral grounds carving out a large part of Germany for Jews. Something in its industrial heartland. But that would have required a commitment to hold Germany to account for its crimes amongst western allies. Which there really wasn’t they were already restoring collaborators and Nazis to power before the smoke settled. As well as a commitment to abandon colonialism in all forms, which again before the smoke settled they were already trying to restore countries to colonial rule.

@ItsOgre

9 ай бұрын

@Shinshocks555not sure if that was dumb move. It’s allowed them total western backing as a bulwark of imperialism in a critical energy hub. Monstrous, absolutely.

@SpicyTake

9 ай бұрын

"South Africa deserves better than the ANC"

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

​@@SpicyTakeI mean we do. The ANC in its current form has failed to live up to its promises, deliver basic services to the most vulnerable among us, and coasts by on its (genuine) past as liberators. There's not much in the way of alternatives though. Our hope is in the youth. Maybe they can restore the ANC (& others) to its former glory and finish what was started so long ago.

i sat omy balls

@lamer6767

9 ай бұрын

who else livin in the bomb hospital country

May the Palestinian freedom fighters prevail against these impossible odds.

@libertariansasquatch

9 ай бұрын

Yes, the brave Palestinian freedom fighters that slaughtered an unarmed music festival, truly brave

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

What do you think would happen to the 7 million Jewish Israelis if the Palestinian freedom fighters prevailed?

@libertariansasquatch

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 don’t you know that Islamic extremist groups are known for their mercy and forgiveness.

@justcommenting4981

9 ай бұрын

@@libertariansasquatch "ah man the racist kids of brutal colonial settlers were just trying to have a good time in occupied territory!" Imagine the cringe if Jews busted out of Warsaw and killed Germans enjoying a nice showing of Triumph of the Will. Big yikes. What's funny is this happens to every hog settler, literally every single time and they are always surprised. Turns out their kids can die too. At least they don't have to fake being attacked anymore.

@justcommenting4981

9 ай бұрын

@@coreyander286 I don't know, maybe the same as all the pro Russian Ukrainians. Of course many Israelis could just go back to the country they were born in.

The real tragedy is everyones twitter timeline being caught in the crossfire, the real victim.

Loving these comments "Turning a big dial that says racism and looking back at the crowd etc etc etc"

why do you think people dont know that felix, what have u been doing trying to educate people

Finally a good Felix episode

everyone thinks they're the good guy with the gun

35:21 No

#fromtherivertotheseapalestinewillbefree

Long Live the Fighters

@sickjuicysjamshack3580

9 ай бұрын

I feel like these events are going to affect the release of Dune 2

@justcommenting4981

9 ай бұрын

​@@sickjuicysjamshack3580lmfao....I was literally wondering if that would be too tasteless to post. I think you might be right.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

They gonna die bro.

Look, im not into the religious elements of hamas but regards their murdering of "civilian" isrealis... its beyond morality. In fact i'd say its totally fine, neither good nor bad. When it comes to your people being wiped out, theres really no wrong way to respond Those few isreali's killed are like people who lived on an active volcano before it erupted. The death of children is tragic, but the only people you can blame is their parents, because they chose to raise them on the front lines of a warzone. I would say this about those in Gaza, but they have zero choice in the matter. Isreal was designed by the british empire to be another Ulster, but even our native hill billies never went this far, or got this level of military support (though funnily enough did get arms from aparthied south africa and isreal)

@Thyinternet

9 ай бұрын

In fact I’d say that’s some sociopathic shit and it’s possible to dislike the phenomenon of dead civilians regardless of what side they’re on and what political leanings you have. Thank you for sharing your deep expertise on the issue, you’re seen, you’re heard, you’re valid. You matter.

@condor237

9 ай бұрын

Hamas had a choice to not kill the children. They also had a choice to not RAPE the women. Your logic would justify any rape worldwide as long as the person comes from a disadvantaged background

Hate to invoke the R word, but the commentary from 27:00 onward, about regional positioning, is... ok, call it 'anachronistic'. You haven't been giving due focus to the re-orientation in Iran-Saudi relations, nor to official signals that this goes deeper than people tend to assume. I can guess what your sources are, but I suggest you move beyond highly generalized or broadly western sources (this includes Qatari media). A couple months ago, Saudi, Iran, and Emirates held joint naval exercises. The fabled "Chinese diplomatic coup" getting them to shake hands in 2023 belied 3-4 years of intensive, low-key negotiations that originated with one Qasem Soleimani contacting the then-Iraqi PM to act as mediator in late 2019. 1-2 years of mediated talks (3 months into which the US bombed Soleimani, which, for the R/A crowd... that was a message to the Saudis) was followed by 1-2 years of DIRECT talks, with periodic signals they would soon open embassies, carried on media outlets nobody reads. Every major shift that emerged in the region stemmed from that phone call: major shift in KSA's position in Yemen; its commitment to Chinese infrastructure investment and non-exclusivity of the petrodollar; its willingness to bully Emirates to toe the line on OPEC+ decisions; its full-on endorsement of Syria normalization, preluded in the April 2022 address in UAE by Assad, which should be understood as an official signal of KSA's regional policy shift; etc. If you missed these broad strokes as part of a definitive reorientation in the region, then you probably missed the slightly more unpredictable Turkish one. People still talk about Turkish regional aims in the same language that applied a decade ago - I point this out only to underline that the two countries' regional policy shifts are interlinked. This comes more into focus when you reintroduce Qatari goals in the region, and enumerate the ways & magnitude in which Qatari regional policy has drifted from those of KSA & Turkey. It should be like the proverbial sledgehammer getting you to zoom out a bit and pay attention. Consider the real cooperation hidden under those (and many other) signals to be two steps ahead of the collective consciousness... and then assume that the residual flavor of regional machinations - including US & Israeli diplomacy - are one step behind. Israeli analysts & some American ones, are aware of the underlying shift, judging by some of the less obvious signals of their own in recent months. But it doesn't appear they have the talent or bargaining power to effect any major reversal. They're way behind, and it was always a tricky proposition to get KSA to stick to its traditional posture in the event that certain carrots & sticks became inoperable. Certain carrots & sticks have become inoperable, folks. If you have a realist view of political economy, you'll know that that can still be masked by diplomatic puff words & big Boeing deals - even "tech" deals. The layer just beneath that is what you should be tracking. How it relates to Hamas's immediate strategy is anybody's guess. Where it matters is in the lateral signaling KSA has been making to the rest of the Arab world on issues such as Hezbollah and Syrian sovereignty. Hamas is an opportunistic organization, it's had fractures - especially when Qatari money was involved (now revisit that pin you should've placed on Qatar's positioning in the Arab world in this half-decade). It's had a complicated relation to Damascus, too. And KSA's positioning re: Syria normalization & sovereignty, and Hezbollah's legitimacy, is part of that same pivot - pirouette if you will - with Iran. It has more momentum & political cache behind it than the erstwhile US-focused arrangement. The old arrangement will now continue on a parallel, transactional track. That includes Israel. There's no obvious reason why KSA would benefit from publicly rejecting something like normalization. So it intends to shape the terms instead. Take all the official statements since the Hamas raid, and roll them into the past 3 years of real repositioning re: Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Yemen (and Qatar), and you'll have to conclude the terms they have in mind now cleave toward Palestinian self-determination. The role of Russia & Russia's own diplomatic pirouettes is probably huge. It's now an open secret that Iran-Saudi normalization was an active project of the Russian foreign ministry for some time, before the ceremonial baton was passed to Beijing. KSA was persuaded in other ways in the interim - in Syria particularly. Russia's hyperdrive diplomacy in 2022-23 targeted KSA's most relevant neighbors, including Oman and UAE. There's little chance we know to what extent it was involved in Yemen - but you can bet the closed-door bargaining raised that topic often. US-OPEC+ tension doesn't quite explain a Russian nuclear-powered frigate docking in Jeddah for the first time. I think Russian "tech" speaks compellingly on its own (and Chinese "tech" is a fallback for the other stuff). Yemeni/Iranian "tech" spoke loudest in 2019, days after that call from Soleimani... Patriots were implicated in that debacle, if memory serves. Patriots like the ones in Kyiv. You can also bet that a young MBS, inheriting the foreign trysts of his father, not only has spotted shiny investments & toys elsewhere, but he's new enough to be personally embarrassed that the only constant regional allies of the Palestinians the last 20 years have been non-Sunnis. Don't underestimate shame.

@valeriesummers8100

9 ай бұрын

So where should English speakers look to find this good info about that region? Any time I search for anything online it's a flood of AI articles and mainstream US media.

Not to make light of this, but… I can’t be the only one who heard about hamas shooting up that Israeli EDM raid and not kinda giggle imagining the name they had for that festival. Imagine getting merked at some rave called “Go-go sexy fun time castle”

@Thyinternet

9 ай бұрын

Good luck with your podcast

@ts-wo6pp

9 ай бұрын

​@@Thyinternettoo busy getting canoed by a 17 year old in the ketamine hut at go-go sexy Funtime castle

@Thyinternet

9 ай бұрын

@@ts-wo6pp all you wannabe is el chapo

Matt's going to wake up from his corn syrup coma in a few weeks and hear Israel and Palestine have both been glassed and he wasn't there to riff on it

@lanceblankenship9995

9 ай бұрын

I doubt it was drugs. I'm utterly convinced MR's Michael Brooks died of a heroin overdose though.

@wguid

9 ай бұрын

@@lanceblankenship9995 It was a blood clot, wtf is wrong with you

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

​@@wguidcheck his other comments. Lots wrong with Mr "The Incestuous Arab Mindset" over here

@trentwolfgram9571

9 ай бұрын

​@@wguidpossibly one of the most pathetic posters I've ever seen. On pretty much every Chapo related video, and just trolls fairly clumsily. I like to imagine the sad, sad man prying a little feeling out of his life by upsetting others, and then look at my family and be so thankful I have meaning and love in my life. Long story short, classic loser troll, ignore as usual

@lanceblankenship9995

9 ай бұрын

Ok, then. I will longer believe that Michael Brooks died of a heroin overdose, much like Tom Segura no longer believes Tommy Lee Jones is gay.@@wguid

I fundamentally disagree that Israel “has the right to exist.” Wtf does that even mean? 1948 do-over.

@colonialstraits1069

9 ай бұрын

Nobody has the right exist, it’s always been the victors enjoying the spoils. Wherever you are writing from, you have benefited directly from other people’s suffering and loss. You have blood on your hands, like everyone else.

@hegaliandialectics4289

9 ай бұрын

Israel does not have the right to exist as a ethnostate which it currently is.

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

People have a right to exist where they were born and grow up, even if their parents behaved as war criminals to birth and raise them when they did. Nobody should be judged communally. What are you, a medieval Chinese emperor who sentences people to the *nine familial exterminations?* (Look it up.) Everyone must be judged as individuals. You have no history from before you were born. Not if you're Palestinian, not if you're Israeli.

@whentheleveebreaks4732

9 ай бұрын

@colonialstraits1069 - My point exactly. The Zionist project was only successful, Israel only exists, because of the largess of the United States. Western governments and other institutions abetted the Jewish people in the theft of the Holy Land from people who had lived there for centuries. The result of partitioning up this land, evicting its inhabitants, and fabricating a “Jewish State” has been endless war and death and misery. The US needs to give Israel an ultimatum: make it right or we’ll do it. There are things the US can do… Israel exists at our pleasure.

@technologic21

9 ай бұрын

That which cannot be defended, cannot be retained.

Point taken but "Hamas interacting with Israeli civilians" is like... no-one says F-16s fucking 'interact' with Palestinian kids.

@samsca8529

9 ай бұрын

What minute mark do they say that

@5508Vanderdekken

9 ай бұрын

You’re only right because no one talks about f16s killing Palestinian kids at all

@elelegante9104

9 ай бұрын

Cool I must be psychic

@qwert0

9 ай бұрын

@@elelegante9104 *psycho

@samsca8529

8 ай бұрын

@@5508VanderdekkenNot wrong, but still doesn’t make it any less ridiculous

Hezbollah is begging the IDF to walk into south Lebanon again

Of all the euphemisms I’ve heard, hamas guys “interacting with Israelis in their homes” has to be one of the wildest. Come on man.

@Juliusthebastard

9 ай бұрын

Israel has been interacting with Palestinians in their homes for nearly a century. Fuck around and find out

@slickstufneatstuf

9 ай бұрын

The zionist white supremacists have been engaging in kinetic situations with particular rock-throwing age-limited individuals for decades.

@coreyander286

9 ай бұрын

@@slickstufneatstuf Most Israelis are of non-European descent.

@joshuamarx8209

9 ай бұрын

​​@@coreyander286Lmao! yeah you mean the Palestinians that live in greater Israel as 2nd class citizens? Cool story bro.

@samsca8529

9 ай бұрын

⁠@@JuliusthebastardLmao I love this response, has nothing to do with his point at all but just uses the same dumb euphemism he was complaining about. Kinda proved his point, if Zionists talked that way, which many of them Im sure do, then it would be equally as ridiculous

Judging by this interview Hamas just went in a took a walk

@elyjah6380

9 ай бұрын

youre about tonget dog piled by Americans sitting in the comfort of their home telling you dxactly why killling civilians is a required part of revolution lol

@slickstufneatstuf

9 ай бұрын

What form should Palestinian protest take? When they're peaceful, they are shot and maimed. When they throw rocks, Israel rolls in tanks. Israel has stripped every Palestinian of any rights, so what else should they do? @@elyjah6380

@hemingshark327

9 ай бұрын

if you have a functioning brain phrases like attack might mean something to you.

@justcommenting4981

9 ай бұрын

​@@elyjah6380the civilian settlers that have been killing and imprisoning Palestinians so they could bulldoze their ancestral home and put up a Pizza place for New York hipsters on birthright? Those civilians? Get mad like the South African pig apologists before you.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

American communists ignorant about how world works fat on taco bell quesadillas

I stand by my earlier comments about the open support for Hamas and celebration of the killing of Jews in these comments being troubling. But I also want to make clear that the unconditional support being shown for Israel's actions in response to Hamas' attacks by other commenters is even more troubling. Civilians in Gaza are not at fault for the actions of a few terrorists, and the collective punishment against them that Israel is engaging in through its bombings and blockade are clearly a war crime under Article 33 of the Geneva Conventions. 1400 Israelis were killed in these abhorrent attacks. Over 2300 Palestinians have been killed since then, the vast majority of them civilians, and over a million people live in the part of northern Gaza Israel is planning to invade. Our elected leaders are overwhelmingly lining up behind giving Israel more weapons. Who do you think holds the most power in this situation? Just as sympathy with oppressed Palestinians is no justification for supporting the killing of Jewish civilians, sympathy with the loved ones of the murdered Israelis - some of whom are actively speaking out against Israel's retaliatory acts - should not blind us to the fact that creating more grieving families will only make this conflict worse.

Genocide is BBBBBBBBB B. BBBBBB BAAAALLLLLLLLEEEERRRRRR!

You guys are horrible on Russia-Ukraine but actually not horrible on this. Mohammad rocks

@Its-Not-My-Problem

9 ай бұрын

You guys never explain why they're "horrible" on Russia-Ukraine.

@Eddie-px9fb

9 ай бұрын

@@Its-Not-My-Problem no nuance, no historical understanding, and no interviews with guys who had been involved in fighting or humanitarian efforts through 8 years of low intensity warfare

@Eddie-px9fb

9 ай бұрын

@@Its-Not-My-Problem also no understanding of russia's internal politics or Russia in general. To be fair and balanced, Israel-Palestine is a lot more clear cut situation to understand

@Eddie-px9fb

9 ай бұрын

@@Its-Not-My-Problem did they even mention the Odessa Massacre when talking about the current conflict?

@Its-Not-My-Problem

9 ай бұрын

​@@Eddie-px9fb They're not journalists, nor have they ever claimed to be. So if you're looking for that kind of coverage from them, then you don't know what this podcast is. Also they barely ever talk about Ukraine, so I don't know what you're even upset about. As far as I know, their stance is that war is bad, they want people to stop getting killed, and whatever brings the war to an end the fastest with the fewest casualties is the best thing to do.

I stand with those sitting this one out

@whentheleveebreaks4732

8 ай бұрын

Coward.

When talking about the hamas attack on "Israelis", why do you struggle with saying "civilians" or "children"? Why do you focus on "taking hostages" as if the killed are only collateral of this "operation"? Is it this hard to acknowledge atrocities committed by that side in this conflict? You don't have this problem when (correctly) describing the very misguided counter-attacks on Gaza. Can we only criticize Israel by siding with what is objectively a war crime?

@Arjava.

9 ай бұрын

The unprovoked occupation has led to tragedy

@stephanwalsch

9 ай бұрын

​​@@Arjava.Ignoring the loaded language here, let's accept your premise:and that makes it right to respond with a massacre on civilians? Are Hamas just reactionary to whatever inputs they receive from the "occupiers"? Have you heard the term "racism of low expectations"?

@bedosar

9 ай бұрын

@@stephanwalsch No such thing.

@bedosar

9 ай бұрын

How many children have been killed?

@Code_Dee

9 ай бұрын

@@stephanwalsch "occupation" is not a loaded term, it's a simple description...

Patiently waiting for the Chapo take on the Tigray genocide....

@Praisethesunson

9 ай бұрын

Lol a civil war in parts of Africa 98% of Americans couldn't find on a map. That war will end before Americans care about it.

@RavingCelt009

9 ай бұрын

That’s what Radio War Nerd is for.

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

Ethiopians sufficiently non-consanguinous for you to care about them, Lance?

None of them called hamas a terrorist group or what they did as terrorism. I had to listen twice! This is insane

@whentheleveebreaks4732

8 ай бұрын

Are you Jewish?

@totallynotalpharius2283

8 ай бұрын

What would that accomplish?

@actionjaxon903

8 ай бұрын

@@totallynotalpharius2283 it would let me know they aren't a bunch of sub-human dipshits who think what hamas did was justified

@actionjaxon903

8 ай бұрын

@@totallynotalpharius2283 worst legion btw

@CoolAdam247

7 ай бұрын

@@actionjaxon903 it was a reaction to 75 years of brutal occupation. A pressure cooker explodes when under extreme pressure.

The comments are exactly what I thought a bunch of limp wristed American socialists would say lol

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

Fat off of beyond meat burgers. Fkin Soy Boys.

@g-money1247

9 ай бұрын

So much hate.

@virag1132

9 ай бұрын

cry more

@discountchocolate4577

9 ай бұрын

@@TruthSeekernpl THE SOY BOYS ARE GROWING FAT OFF OF BEYOND MEAT BURGERS, THIS IS WHAT STALIN DREAMT OF

I just like the Jews more than Tuskan raiders

@Jefferu_Nintendomoto

9 ай бұрын

Lol ok racist

@voiceofreason2674

9 ай бұрын

There was a level in battlefront 2 where you could do jawas vs tuskan raiders and it is essential that you play that to understand the conflict . Both sides are relatively weak and have very slow reload times so it's shoot first and RUN if you miss or to just squad up as the jawas and go patrol

@Gum_Cuzzler

9 ай бұрын

*Jawas

@grahamcarpenter691

9 ай бұрын

I think the Empire is a little bit worse than the Tuscan Raiders.

@technologic21

9 ай бұрын

The Tusken Raiders are the original inhabitants of Tatooine. Obi Wan was wise to exercise caution and give thema a wide berth.

The horrors of the siege of gaza for us Americans doesnt mean we just sit and wait for Hamas to retaliate because they have a right to it means we spend all of our waking free time dedicated to trying to free Gazans. What have the chapo hosts and their community been doing with their free time? American leftists are just as much responsible as any right wing Israeli, your inactivity helped lead to this situation, I'm glad Felix has his video games he spends thousands of hours on and Will has his movies though

@tonycampbell1424

9 ай бұрын

And what are we going to do, exactly? Get a plane ticket to Gaza and take up arms? What do you suggest, oh enlightened one?

@WootaY

9 ай бұрын

@@tonycampbell1424 theyve been adults since 2014, they could ahve dedicated countless amount of hours to educating and organizing around the issue just as thousands of other americans could have but they chose not to and instead chose to fill their lives with the many pleasures the west affords them. I suggest they start looking in the mirror a bit more and feeling shame and then acting differently

@tonycampbell1424

9 ай бұрын

@WootaY Look Hoss, around here we recognize the futility of things like boycotts "raising awareness." You need to find the essential truth of GrillPill ideology, i.e. that no individual has the power to make a difference. What have you been doing with your every waking moment for the last decade? Working a "job" to pay "bills?" Pffffff. Could have spent that time organizing (to what end, whi can say?). Trying to enjoy the last decade or two before the entire modern world collapses on itself under the weight of endless capital accumulation the the nihilistic drive for infinite profit growth? Pfff. Should have been organizing (again, organizing to do what? Send AK-47s and wire guided missiles to Gaza?). I'm sensing some hypocrisy here, if I'm honest. Here you are, listening to and commenting on a podcast when you could be organizing (perhaps a children's crusade/jihad/whatever? Still unclear).

@rpemulis

9 ай бұрын

@@WootaY they have dedicated countless hours to building a platform that anyone even cares about. navigating a tightrope walk to bring legitimate leftism back to national discourse in a country that has recoiled with horror from it for decades now. this podcast is literally the largest platform in the US even willing to discuss this from this perspective. they ARE educating, you dummy. why you gotta make me defend podcasters like this?

@condor237

9 ай бұрын

They’ve been getting high, being spiteful, and shitting their doodoo ass (Matt)

Great episode but when he said “interacting with Israeli civilians” I had to lol

“ Armed struggle is sometimes the only way “ What’s amazing is it is being said by bunch of guys who would get winded climbing a flight of stairs. I have seen these guys do a livestream. They have a body of how you would imagine body of a manchild socialist would look like. They won’t survive a day in armed struggle. One of them is still in hospital because he got stroke because of all the fast food and lack of exercise. And these idiots are encouraging an “armed struggle “ . Yeah armed struggle sounds romantic like Che Guevara when it is happening to Kibutz dweller thousands of miles away. Meanwhile we would continue to live like an obese teenager with horrible food habits. This is called peak western privilege or first world privilege. Armed struggle for thee but not for me.

@andrewblair370

9 ай бұрын

So, how does all *that* equal them being wrong? If the Rock or some navy seal meathead was saying the exact same thing they are, would you all of a sudden agree because of his big, juicy, succulent, pulsing muscles? Are you like, expecting these guys to go to Gaza and join Hamas? Is that what you want from them when they could use their platform to promote the Palestinian plight in a brainwashed, propagandized nation.

@KarpKomet

9 ай бұрын

Such a dumb argument.... your playing on super easy mode against American socialists about foreign issues and this is what you come up with. Quit trolling while you are ahead.

@nightmoose

9 ай бұрын

"you are not physically fit enough to have an opinion on this armed conflict" congratulations, your comment makes no sense.

@5508Vanderdekken

9 ай бұрын

okay champ, let's race. any distance - 400m, 800m, 1500m, 3k, 5k, 10k, ANY distance. Unless you're not fit enough to criticize other people's health

@InconvientNecessity

9 ай бұрын

You're saying if the Chapo guys were sexier you'd be more willing to listen to their arguments...interesting...Are you a Cumtown listener?

Btw congratulations . At least out of this debacle we got a new speaker, Scalise . Too bad Gaza residents have to die for it though. 😂

@g-money1247

9 ай бұрын

Sounds like you really hate the people of gaza.

@g-money1247

9 ай бұрын

Congratulations, I guess.

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

@@g-money1247no I don’t hate them. I dont hate anybody. I just have fatigue of listening about this god forsaken place. As if beside this 70,000 sq km of land there ain’t nothing in the world? When was the last time you heard about Peru or Kyrgyzstan? There are far more people there than these two assh0le countries . Why is our news media so fkin consumed by this patch of desert ???

@frolicsomgaiety

9 ай бұрын

@@TruthSeekernplcuz israel is our outpost over there dude

@joshuamarx8209

9 ай бұрын

​@@TruthSeekernplThe imperialism that undergirds everything you know and love, is why dummy .

"Hamas launched a surprise attack on all the Israeli posts and bases." What a crock of shit! Truth is that most of the people killed were civilians. I have no respect for anyone on this show anymore after this episode and their asinine take on Ukraine.

@Hud23

9 ай бұрын

Keep lapping up that CIA BS.

@zeitgeistx5239

9 ай бұрын

lol doesn’t know that Israel has a conscript army so large swath of the population are reservists.

@InconvientNecessity

9 ай бұрын

No, they were mostly soldiers. Some armed settlers were killed, and no doubt some innocents were caught in the crossfire, but you don't get to live in a settlement next a concentration camp and play the victim when your prisoners break out and kill you - intentionally or accidentally.

@tonycampbell1424

9 ай бұрын

To paraphrase representative Joshua Giddings of Ohio, "I won't laugh when you get what you deserve, but you definitely deserve it."

@kindadumbkindastrong4429

9 ай бұрын

​@@InconvientNecessityexactly, any settlers in Israel are an active part of occupying stolen land and subjugating Palestinians. Rest in Piss

Felix: what is dan carlin gonna make a podcast so good there is a 2 state solution Also felix: lets do a podcast about the problems in gaza....thatll help Jesus christ the lack of self awaeness is mystifying

@williamcarson3011

9 ай бұрын

If you look closely, you'll notice that Felix is a podcaster.... what exactly should he do to show support?

@TheWilsones

9 ай бұрын

He's never claimed the podcast has improved a political or any other type of situation. The "that'll help" part of your "observation" is completely fatuous.

@millhousemillard2140

9 ай бұрын

@@TheWilsones neither has dan carlin lol do you think Dan Carlin thinks he's changing the world talking about history?? So felix is the fatuous one lol he's talking about another podcaster having a worldview and making fun of him for thinking he's doing anything. So felix is either dumb and doesnt realize that same statement applies to him or Felix thinks he's doing something with his podcast. I love chapo but don't be as delusional as trump supporters please lol. They make mistakes sweetie

@millhousemillard2140

9 ай бұрын

@@williamcarson3011 idk what should dan carlin do???? Make a podcast, but according to Felix that is stupid now....."stay tuned to my podcast" 🤣🤣🤣

@millhousemillard2140

9 ай бұрын

I like this podcast but its ok to point out something dumb they do. Otherwise we are just like the trumpers who think daddy Trump never makes a mistake. Felix said something stupid.....who cares??

Based on how you guys started this episode, I won’t be listening to any of your content again after listening since the gang got together. Good luck on your future endeavors.

@deborshigoswami5810

9 ай бұрын

Bye bye

@ezramax5636

9 ай бұрын

bye lol

@wolfror1

9 ай бұрын

Go seek out your comforting propaganda from cnn then lol

@Janon48

9 ай бұрын

If you actually were a longtime Chapo then how are you surprised? They’ve been pretty consistent about their views

@naveenmehta496

9 ай бұрын

Bye Felicia 🤣

To everyone comparing this to Warsaw or Tet: Do your research first. Those two operations attacked military and political targets. Hamas primarily attacked civilian targets. They aren't in the same moral universe.

@HollowGolem

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, like that rave that...had IDF tanks at it. 100% civilian! They're also taking IDF gear and vehicles... Because they're only targeting civilians...? How long until your diseased brain melts out your ears?

@anthonybencivengo6901

9 ай бұрын

Even the hosts of the show admit Hamas was sending its troops into civilian areas and this apologist is trying to act like they haven't seen the photos and videos of what happened there

@YFNA1978

9 ай бұрын

​@@anthonybencivengo6901Are settlers on stolen land legitimate targets? Yes. I don't begrudge an indigenous people, beset by settlers on land acquired through conquest, from targeting those settlers. That's why the settlers are there afterall. To give legitimacy to the possession of the land and to act as a source of violence against the indigenous population and be the targets of violence by the indigenous population. They are human shields. The more violence they experience, the more they commit, the more that can be taken to justify their " security ". Is it horrible, absolutely. But let's not pretend it isn't intended.

@splooie02

9 ай бұрын

Israelis are not civilians

@ThisSteveGuy

9 ай бұрын

The people who lived their entire lives in a concentration camp have the moral high ground over those who support the camp's existence. That's how it works, genius.

OK. So "proper context" means the context in which it's viewed by Palestinians and their supporters? Nah. Also, let's talk about why the conditions are what they are in Gaza. Hamas is able to smuggle amazing amounts of weapons ,but not what people need to survive? If conditions are so bad that people cannot survive, then how is it that there are so many people still living there? These 2 peoples hate each other and won't stop. So at this point, it's not even relevant to talk about who is right or wrong. It's about what's going to happen now that this attack happened.

@leebos

9 ай бұрын

You're right. Why don't they have access to food? It's almost like Palestinians have some sort of state that seems to be pushing them out of existence that controls all air traffic, controls the roads, controls water supply, electricity and construction materials. If only there was a name for that... human rights violations? idk. Also, yeah, you can buy really out of date arms (Which is what Hamas has) on the black market better than you can buy just... what? PIles of food that you seem to be wanting them to buy in. What, in their Sysco trucks or whatever?

@deborshigoswami5810

9 ай бұрын

Let me put it this way, once Israel is done with Gaza you’ll look at it the same way you look at the invasion of Iraq post 9/11. Unlike you, Instead of buying into the outrage machine that makes the leveling of Iraq possible, we’re taking a more nuanced look.

@deborshigoswami5810

9 ай бұрын

Secondly Hamas does smuggle food and supplies for Palestinians. That’s why 2 million of them can survive inspite of not being allowed to leave. You speak as if they can just leave Gaza. That’s factually erroneous. They are in fact held captive and have been so for a few decades now.

@sickjuicysjamshack3580

9 ай бұрын

Proper context means thinking about the situation in Gaza before last Friday

@cwhit0110

9 ай бұрын

Why are people living there? They can’t leave. Look up the March to return. When they tried, Israeli military shot and killed men, women, children, press, medics, the disabled by the thousands.

BrOwN PeOpLe ArE SpEcIaL aNd sHoUlD NeVeR Be CrItIcIzEd FoR AnYtHiNg EvEr! Haven't you ever read your (insert random black studies professor at San Francisco State University circa 1972 here)

@BartekDeGod100

9 ай бұрын

You good bro? Maybe take a break from the internet for a bit.

@voiceofreason2674

9 ай бұрын

I don't like the first part but the second part is funny. People will refer to some bunkass professor as a historian or the founder of a school of thought . When in reality he was just some raggedy drunk bureaucrat with tenure who was too lazy to work on research and instead just wrote a script for a rant that they performed every year to keep getting paid

@ChannelMath

9 ай бұрын

typical right-wing attempt at satire: instead of starting out reasonably and getting crazier until people realize it's satire, you immediately go so far over the top nobody can even recognize what or who you are satirizing. I'd really like to see what Breitbart article made you think this is something resembling what anyone has ever said, ever.

@omegacygnus

9 ай бұрын

Congrats on reaching peak derangement.

@hoboroadie4623

9 ай бұрын

Your insight is keen. How can I subscribe to your newsletter?

All this means one good thing. We as an American will have a house speaker soon. We need to give Israel the money. We can’t untill and unless congress passes it. Congress can’t pass it unless there is a House Speaker. So at least we gonna get out of this limbo. Are few hundreds Palestinian deaths worth having a House speaker election?? Who knows ?? I am not a political analyst.

@Vanya2893

9 ай бұрын

if there's one thing that will make the House choose a speaker by the end of the day it's making sure they can get money to Israel

@kwarra-an

9 ай бұрын

Fingers crossed for the collapse of the American empire!

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

@@kwarra-anno bro i just came to US on DV visa. I hope it doesn’t collapse and i know for sure it won’t .

@returnalnocturnal7729

9 ай бұрын

​@@TruthSeekernplyou're gonna lose that visa soon lol. Our country doesn't favor handouts no matter how much they think they belong. You're gonna know what the Palestianians feel when our country favors the Right Wing and turns their eyes on immigrants like you

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

@@returnalnocturnal7729 dude it is not a Visa . It is a green card. 😂 You don’t even know immigration law of your own country. So you win lottery and you get a green card. And who cares if i lose my “visa”. I didn’t get handouts here. If i get deported I will work back in Nepal. Do some business. Unlike you socialists , I believe in hard work. Also I am getting my US citizenship this November. So until and unless i do something crazy I am a US citizen. Then the case is out of immigration court judges under DHS. If they have to deport me they have to denaturalize me. And i can fight all the way to supreme court and believe me if i can come here without knowing anyone and buy my own house and own a business in 6 years. I will fight my case to supreme court if need be. And denaturalization is almost unheard of. Last time it happened to a Nazi death camp guard. So sorry soyboy I am gonna be here in the US And so is state of Israel gonna be here on earth forever

Coming soon: The Gaza parking lot

@KarpKomet

9 ай бұрын

Congrats you just proved your ideas are just as silly as this pod. Because the brutally crush them strategy always works great against terrorism. Ooooooh wait.... Also enjoy your fantasy of carpet bombing a dense city that's 45% kids. Really locks in that moral superiority over the "street shyting animals". Oooooh wait.....

Lets get some pop corn Because it is gonna be show time in gaza 💥 🍿 😜

@mnjhunt

9 ай бұрын

And in what way is what’s happening in Gaza not terrorism?

@samsca8529

9 ай бұрын

Like the Israelis in Sderot in 2014 who did this exact thing?

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

@@mnjhuntterrorism against terrorist negates terrorism . - * - = +

@mnjhunt

9 ай бұрын

It absolutely doesn’t. It leads to more terrorism and makes the whole world blind.

"Free Palestine" means doing to all Israelis what Hamas did last weekend. That will never happen. עם ישראל חי

@tha_demilich1312

9 ай бұрын

From the river to the sea Palestine will be free 🇵🇸

@itfunes

9 ай бұрын

Copium

@billywiththebulgingbaloonb5105

9 ай бұрын

Doing to all Israelis what Israel is doing to the Palestinians on a regular basis.

@ItsOgre

9 ай бұрын

As long as Israel occupies Palestine and is committing ethnic cleansing, I hope Israeli’s never feel safe. I think if there was one positive from this past weekend is that their veil of safety to commit brutalities with zero or very little consequences has been lifted. There will be consequences and there will not be complete safety for Israeli’s as long as their barbarism continues.

@SpicyTake

9 ай бұрын

A real moose would write a smarter post. You can be sure of that.

Chapo unmatched as a source of brainlet energy

@slickstufneatstuf

9 ай бұрын

You listen to Phish. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I’m sure you guys are all well aware of the geo politics of this saga… but let me tell you , as a Shia Iraqi Muslim… this situation has a very very different taste… I honestly think this is the start of something very very big … I believe a false flag will be constructed to violate and make either Iran or hezballah complicit and therefore will make America an Co will start off something huge. I have a big feeling the Shia and Sunni community will unite in this… minus the scum and cowards in Saudi Arabia and UAE… Shit is about to hit the fan… Gaza is going to go through a very very very bad period..

@noidontlikeu

9 ай бұрын

Maybe this time it's followed by at least partial liberation, probably wishful thinking on my part though

@lanceblankenship9995

9 ай бұрын

What's with Arabs and conspiracy theories? Why are they so rife in the Arab world? Not a single population on the planet is more prone to going down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole than Arabs. Self-criticism (of culture, not of the individual self) doesn't really seem to be a thing in the Arab world. It's always somebody elses' fault. Much of the Western Canon of the past 500 years is devoted to criticism of aspects of western culture, which is part of the reason why the West has reinvented itself so many times. Little Spain published more books than the entire Arab world combined. Arabs need an Enlightenment, a heavy, heaping dose of secular rationality.

@noidontlikeu

9 ай бұрын

​@@lanceblankenship9995it's almost like their left nationalist and communist movements were crushed and the gulf states control most arab language media or something

@Praisethesunson

9 ай бұрын

​@@lanceblankenship9995Lol brain dead take.

@xvvxvvxvvx

9 ай бұрын

​@lanceblankenship9995 are you paid by mossad or something? It seems like all you do is post comments bashing Palestinians. What motivates you to do this?

Free Palestine

From the River to the Sea, Palestine Will be Free

Free Palestine

@nickgarris2971

9 ай бұрын

Freedom ain't free, there's a hefty fucking fee, who gonna pay the buck o five

@TruthSeekernpl

9 ай бұрын

Omg !! Send these idiots to live in Gaza. How can Israel lift seize from Gaza when the ruling regime of that area don’t recognize Israel’s right to exist? All this blaming of Israel and not a single word of condemnation towards folks who were shot at Music festivals, farms and houses. Kidnapped bare naked being paraded as some kinda war trophy. I come from Nepal. We had no enmity with Palestines. We had few talented students who went to Israel to study agriculture. Hamas came and they said they were from Nepal. They were gunned down , nonetheless. How can you have peace with these animals ? I ain’t saying all Arabs or Muslims or Palestinians are animals. But Hamas surely is . And if they were not capable of defending their territory after kicking the hornet nest, they shouldn’t have kicked it in the first place. Also Hamas is elected by people of Gaza, so they deserve everything coming to them. These fat socialists living in a first world country eating taco bell quesadillas are saying “ what avenue they have other than armed resistance?” Are you serious ? Did these idiots seriously condoned mass shooting of everyday innocent people on KZread.

@fuzzydumpling9829

9 ай бұрын

There are no good people on either side of this story

@plutarchtheoligarch1657

9 ай бұрын

​@@TruthSeekernplHamas is a theocratic, fascist organization, however Israel's current regime isn't much better. What Hamas did is terrible, however, what they did has been happening to Palestinians for years.

@voiceofreason2674

9 ай бұрын

@@plutarchtheoligarch1657 Israelites aren't swooping in abducting people like they were the Vulture from spiderman

Free Palestine