The Creation Myth of the Proto Indo-Europeans

Balance, order and chaos, the key themes in this creation myth, probably first told 6 to 8,000 years ago. This version, influenced from work by Bruce Lincoln and David Anthony, along with my own research, this is a contemporary telling of a reconstructed creation myth of the Indo-Europeans.
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  • @ezrafriesner8370
    @ezrafriesner8370Ай бұрын

    As an archaeologist I love these videos! Obviously our professions have very different methods, but we share our ultimate goal in expanding upon the collective knowledge of humanity 🙌

  • @Diogenes_43

    @Diogenes_43

    Ай бұрын

    Understanding reconstructed myths could help with the interpretation of finds.

  • @ezrafriesner8370

    @ezrafriesner8370

    Ай бұрын

    @@Diogenes_43 precisely, understanding mythological themes and ideas often informs how we might suggest our findings be interpreted

  • @ezrafriesner8370

    @ezrafriesner8370

    4 күн бұрын

    @@DudeNamedDuncan oh I have, they’re both horrid men with stupid ideas who should be shunned. Any archaeologist can tell you they’re frauds, and are actively trying to mislead the general population in malicious anti-archaeological and anti-scientific ways

  • @The.BansheeRose
    @The.BansheeRoseАй бұрын

    What a treat. Sitting here witnessing totality of the solar eclipse listening to the creation myth of the Indo-Europeans. Perfect timing, kudos

  • @charles.e.g.
    @charles.e.g.Ай бұрын

    I think your telling of this primordial tale may be some of your very best work. Not only is it enormously informative and educational, it is also so beautifully written and narrated that there are times when it sounds truly poetic. Thank you for this rare gem. ❤

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for your very kind words.

  • @argentandroid5732
    @argentandroid5732Ай бұрын

    It's nice sometimes, just hearing the story without all the breakdown and references. I appreciate the research and effort, but sometimes I just want to hear a good story.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I do have the Crecganford Reads channel, which I will slowly add that sort of content too.

  • @IndoAryan
    @IndoAryanАй бұрын

    The Nāsadīya Sūkta, also known as the Hymn of Creation, is the 129th hymn of the 10th mandala of the Rigveda. It is concerned with cosmology and the origin of the universe.

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUMАй бұрын

    I am writing a thesis on mythology, and your videos have been a huge source of inspiration. This will be one as well, I know. Thank you for being this huge source of knowledge

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you, and I hope my future videos help as well.

  • @colorpg152

    @colorpg152

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford for the love of christ will you please stop with the asmr it almost impossible to watch the video

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    @@colorpg152 This is just my voice, no effects, just me reading out loud.

  • @davidramos5559

    @davidramos5559

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford i LOVE your voice

  • @theotheagendashill818
    @theotheagendashill818Ай бұрын

    Its interesting how the Indo-European creation myth was largely replaced with the Uralic "earth-diver" creation myth among the Slavs, although other versions existed

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, and a Christianized version of the Earth Diver myth at that, which gives us a clue of why it was replaced.

  • @theotheagendashill818

    @theotheagendashill818

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Crecganford wait so you mean that the earth-diver myth appeared amongst the Slavs only after christianisation?

  • @jurgenjung4302

    @jurgenjung4302

    Ай бұрын

    KZread:ROBERT SEPHER mit "Origins of the First EUROPEANS" 👋

  • @shanegooding4839

    @shanegooding4839

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like the Christianised version offers clues to its replacement not its appearance.

  • @starhash
    @starhashАй бұрын

    I do not yet know for sure how these stories trickle into the Hinduism practices today in India, but from a linguistic perspective the words Manus and Yemo bear direct derivatives from their Proto-Indo-European forms into Sanskrit as मनु / Manu and यम / Yam. Manu was an ancient sage and Yama is considered to be the cheerful king who whence dying first became the guard of hell in our stories. And not to ignore the importance of cows and their protection. We still have a saying that goes "A family doesn't starve in drought if they have a cow at home". Fascinating!

  • @starhash

    @starhash

    Ай бұрын

    P.S. You mentioned eternal cycles in the universe, which is also mentioned within the Vedas in a similar fashion. In fact, we call the faith/practice as Eternal Duty (or how you interpret it, also as Eternal Religion).

  • @starhash

    @starhash

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this btw!

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    We use the Rig Veda to help reconstruct this myth, and so that is why you see connections, and these connections link to Romans, Greeks, Old Norse, Iranians, Persians, and even some biblical texts.

  • @milanmadhani323

    @milanmadhani323

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford Outstanding. If there is a video where you can show the similar constructs of time & Creation between both the Bible and Rig Veda, that would be truly amazing. In the Vedas, time is cyclical. Each major time period, according to the Vedas, consists of a Kalpa. A "kalpa" (or one day & night of Brahma, the first living being) is 4.32 billion years. It consists of 14 sub time periods, known as a "Manvantara," led by a "Manu." Preceding the 1st such Manvantara, there is a "Sandhya" (or "twilight" of Brahma) consisting of 1.728 Million years, and so on and so forth preceding the rest of the remaining Manvantaras. The earth ("Bhu-loka") is submerged in water in each of these "Sandhyas" or twilights of 1.728 million years. Each such "Manvantara" means a duration of time of each Manu ("Manu" = man; "Antara" = interval/term), thus indicating there are MULTIPLE "Manus" leading each cosmological subepoch (14 to be exact). That's not all. Each such "Manvantara" lasts for 306,720,000 Earth years (or, 852,000 divine years, with 1 divine year = 360 of our 4 season-completed 'solar' years) not including Brahma's twilight period of 1.728 million years preceding each such Manvantara. Each Manvantara is then further subdivided into 72 more cycles known as "Yuga Cycle". Each Yuga Cycle consists of 4 Yugas; namely a Satya Yuga (1.728 million years), Dwapara Yuga (1.296 million years), Dwapara Yuga (864,000 years), and Kali Yuga (432,000 years), with each such Yuga Cycle consisting of 4,320,000 years. Completion of 4 such Yugas is a "Maha" (great) Yuga (or Yuga Cycle). It takes 72 such Maha Yugas (cycles), to complete one Manvantara. There are 14 Manvantaras, as mentioned, The current universe, per Wikipedia, is currently being ruled by the 7th such Manu, meaning we are in the 7th Manvantara, 28th Yuga Cycle, in the 4th Yuga (Kali), of which we have only gone through about 5000 of the total 432,000 years of this Kali Yuga. After all the Manvantara's are completed, Creation will be destroyed ("Pralay'), with such destruction equaling 1,728,000 years. And that completes ONE day (and one night) of Brahma (the "kalpa"). One "Month" in Brahmic time (i.e, Brahma's time) means 30 such "days & nights," ie, 30 such Kalpas., or 259.2 billion years 30 x [2 x (306.72 M x 14 + 1.728 x 15) ]. Twelve "months" of Brhama is one "year" in HIS life, and he lives only 100 such cosmic years, constituting a "maha-kalpa" (311.04 trillion of our years). Fifty of Brahma's cosmic "years" have elapsed, and we are now in the "Shveta-Varaha Kalpa" or the 1st cosmic "day" of his 51st cosmic "year." Each Kalpa (cosmic day of Brahma) has a name, according to the Matsya Purana. Each Manu of each Manvantara has a different name. This Manu's name of our time, in Sanskrit, is known as "Vaivasvata," who was the king of ancient Tamil Nadu (southern kingdom of India), before a great flood. This same Manu, was warned of such a great flood, by a fish incarnation of God ("Vishnu"), and thus built a big BOAT which carried the Vedas, his family, and the seven sages "Sapta Rishis" to safety. Sound familiar? Thus we have the concept of CONSTANT dissolutin/destruction followed by creation. All matter is subject to CONSTANT decay and destruction, a similar theme throughout ancient Hindu metaphysics. The Genesis also says God created the Universe (or this Universe anyways), in 6 such "days." It is not clear on what such "day" references, a cosmic day or a human day. The first man, or Manu, is "Adam" and the first woman is "Eve." Beyond that I do not know much of the concepts of time, creation, destruction. Would love to see you publish something which speaks to the Vedas but in line with Christian and Hebrew metaphysics.

  • @annawoudstra6574
    @annawoudstra6574Ай бұрын

    I can easily imagine you telling this story on a pleasantly warm summer eve to a group of companions gathered around a campfire, as I imagine those who first told it did thousands of years ago :)

  • @jurgenjung4302

    @jurgenjung4302

    Ай бұрын

    KZread:ROBERT SEPHER mit "Origins of the First EUROPEANS" 👋

  • @kirgan1000
    @kirgan1000Ай бұрын

    It is the creation myth of the Norse fate thousands of years later, details differ, but the major concepts are there, like the cow, order vs chaos, the brothers, the sacrifice/slaying of a giant, to build the world out of his body parts.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    That is because the Old Norse myth had significant influence from Indo-European cultures.

  • @kirgan1000

    @kirgan1000

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford I know Norse fate have a Indo-European orgin, I was so surprise that it was still so close to the "original" fate thousands of years later.

  • @majidbineshgar7156
    @majidbineshgar7156Ай бұрын

    Thank you very interesting , incidentally regarding that matter , in the film Prometheus directed by Ridley Scot , humanity is imagined having been created and instructed by extraterrestrial entities "the engineers " now I mentioned that because in the film the android was able to communicate with those beings only via " proto-indo-european language " hinting that " indo-european languages for their elegance , beauty and sublime power must have been brought to humanity from a higher intellectual realm.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, that was quite a clever scene, and from that a book called Grammar of the Indo-Europeans - Prometheus Edition was made. And a solid piece of work it is.

  • @Bjorn_Algiz
    @Bjorn_AlgizАй бұрын

    Already got some coffee ready and about to tune in and watch.😊 can't wait for this indeed brother.❤

  • @shanedussault740

    @shanedussault740

    Ай бұрын

    Coffee! Heresy!

  • @Bjorn_Algiz

    @Bjorn_Algiz

    Ай бұрын

    @@shanedussault740 😅 hehehe

  • @HangrySaturn

    @HangrySaturn

    Ай бұрын

    It shoulda been tea

  • @kevinmurphy65
    @kevinmurphy65Ай бұрын

    This is an awesome addition to your library! Really well done! Thank you!

  • @adventurecreations3214
    @adventurecreations3214Ай бұрын

    You are such a great storyteller with such great stories to tell. Thank you.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @Ryz414
    @Ryz414Ай бұрын

    These myths can tell us so much about our past and understand of the universe.

  • @HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo
    @HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo16 күн бұрын

    I can see dark souls got some inspiration from this tale. Great Narration!

  • @maxtrevor9910
    @maxtrevor9910Ай бұрын

    Fantastic video. I really appreciate the shorter than usual length. I know you have so much to say and it can be hard to trim things down, but sometimes its hard for me to make time for longer videos.

  • @dalestaley5637
    @dalestaley5637Ай бұрын

    I loved this. Your voice is so soothing. Perfect for story telling. The program is beautiful.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @nod55106
    @nod55106Ай бұрын

    Wonderful telling of this story. The best i've heard. thank you so much!

  • @bradrcool
    @bradrcoolАй бұрын

    Crecganford is just the best! What a great way to start my day. Thanks for posting this

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @panninggazz5244
    @panninggazz5244Ай бұрын

    thank you for taking the time to create this video

  • @miguellimzon9317
    @miguellimzon9317Ай бұрын

    To get a visual storytelling of the earliest creation myth that predates other ancient cultures is the both entertaining and enlightening. Thank you for this video sir 🙏

  • @oki9395
    @oki9395Ай бұрын

    I always love your video. This video reminds me to your very first video. Your style has been improved over time ❤

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching, and the kind feedback. I do try and improve where I can, but there is still a way to go.

  • @christopherfelser
    @christopherfelserАй бұрын

    This is a great format.

  • @WACkZerden

    @WACkZerden

    Ай бұрын

    I agree.. And I'll say: while I like the long presentations, I also appreciate these shorter videos!

  • @RhoArtMagic
    @RhoArtMagicАй бұрын

    Refreshing mythology. Thanks for your work. 😎👍

  • @prazoles4450
    @prazoles4450Ай бұрын

    Crazy how it sounds so much like Hindu story. The celestial cow, Manu, etc

  • @TioDeive
    @TioDeiveАй бұрын

    Thank you so much. Thanks to your videos I developed an interest in mythology and this has brought a lot of new knowledge and entertainment to my life. I'm now quite curious about PIE, prehistory and everything related to that. Thank you again, it's a always a great experience watch your videos.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing how much my videos have inspired you, there is a lot more to tell and so I hope you keep watching.

  • @erikhoff5010
    @erikhoff5010Ай бұрын

    Very nice, excellent! Thanks for sharing. Skal

  • @MatthewCaunsfield
    @MatthewCaunsfieldАй бұрын

    A lovely tale, thanks for bringing it together

  • @debrajohnson3233
    @debrajohnson3233Ай бұрын

    Such a beautiful story, full of love, respect, and perseverance. Thank you, Jon

  • @Thomas83KO
    @Thomas83KOАй бұрын

    I truly love your Videos... Sometimes hard to understand (cause I'm German and some technical Terms and your accent are hard tonl come by) but luckily you do have German subtitles and Transkript! Thanks for all your work and Insights.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching and your feedback, I will always try and improve.

  • @Robert-gc9gc
    @Robert-gc9gcАй бұрын

    Beautiful, after seeing the eclipse today I really feel this deeply. Good timing ❤

  • @matthemming9105
    @matthemming9105Ай бұрын

    Thank you for this! Perfect timing, as I'm sitting here in Toronto, watching the Moon eat the Sun while listening to this lovely rendition.

  • @gregvondare
    @gregvondare19 күн бұрын

    As I hear this narrative, I am struck that there are many parallels in the Big Bang theory of a disrupted singularity and the cosmic inflation that followed it. Coincidence? There are many derivates of the creation story, but this one as the potentially oldest and most central amazes me with its plausible details (in the early parts).

  • @Alex-zo1sl
    @Alex-zo1slАй бұрын

    This is great! I realize this is a synthesis, and you have pulled on several different myths to create this. Would you mind listing which traditions you used? I love to compare and contrast the stories.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I have made a video about this, the sources and differences, just check out my channel and look for the Indo-European Creation Myth.

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven5176
    @ludwigvanbeethoven5176Ай бұрын

    Tea time 🫖

  • @archismanrudra9336
    @archismanrudra9336Ай бұрын

    The first part of the video seems almost a word to word translation of the nasadiya sukta from the rigveda

  • @MarcusCactus
    @MarcusCactusАй бұрын

    The video is proposed with a French-translated title. Hum! It reads: " The myth of indo-european creation " instead of " the i-e myth of cr." That is why I never use the expression Artificial Intelligence. Say Artificial Stupidity.

  • @auggiemarsh8682
    @auggiemarsh8682Ай бұрын

    Truly a wondrous reconstruction of one of the oldest recorded creation myths

  • @AhJodie
    @AhJodieАй бұрын

    Thank you for a beautifully done video.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    And thank you for watching.

  • @Vlow52
    @Vlow52Ай бұрын

    It’s very sad that despite all the progress and enormous variations of information a human mind can only describe its consciousness and nothing else. Probably, it’s the universal thinking limit: “There was nothing until a mind has formed and started to blindly divide and name every thing that it could possibly comprehend”.

  • @ernestschroeder9762
    @ernestschroeder9762Ай бұрын

    Another great show.

  • @KetsaKunta
    @KetsaKuntaАй бұрын

    The slaying of a multi headed serpent and the herding of cattle brings Hercules to my mind. Fascinating myth.

  • @katmai90210
    @katmai90210Ай бұрын

    had no idea chaos was cunning. surprising discovery.

  • @richardburns3543
    @richardburns3543Ай бұрын

    That was great. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @milanapeacock6062
    @milanapeacock6062Ай бұрын

    Beautiful. Thank you.

  • @Cytoferus
    @CytoferusАй бұрын

    I like this creative assemblage of several known moteifs. It is fairly distinct from my own attept at a plausible prehistory creation myth cycle, which focuses more on the earthdiver, primordial sea, pleiades, solar cycle, and water serpent as an ambivilant force.

  • @freedom2012inworld
    @freedom2012inworldАй бұрын

    Thanks for the story ❤

  • @gabork5055
    @gabork5055Ай бұрын

    The beginning of this story actually sounds a lot more scientifically accurate/plausible than what later religions came up with.

  • @finickygods3896
    @finickygods3896Ай бұрын

    My name is Manas, pronounced esactly like you did (Manus) - it means man in Sanskrit. Thanks for connecting to my some distant roots. I am Amazed.

  • @OmegaWolf747
    @OmegaWolf747Ай бұрын

    And from this, we get stories like Marduk defeating Tiamat, Heracles defeating the Lernian Hydra, Thor defeating Jormungandr, and St. George defeating the dragon.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I think the Marduk connection is less likely, but the others, absolutely.

  • @funkrabbit6599

    @funkrabbit6599

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford well, it seems so similar to the splitting of Yemo to create the cosmos as we know it. Marduk splits Tiamat in two pieces which become the waters above and the waters below. I thought the same thing.

  • @funkrabbit6599
    @funkrabbit6599Ай бұрын

    Hi, great video. I'm curiuous what some of the main primary sources are for this myth. It seems you have agregated several versions that appear over time - but what are some of the oldest versions (in terms of extant original texts we can read) that form the core of your version? Also, are you sort of translating certain ideas culturally, I'm wondering? I ask mainly because of you saying "nothing" existed. My understanding of at least the ANE is there was not a concept of "nothing" like we have today (and idea of no matter/material existing at all) but it was more functional or related to order and chaos. ANE creation myths often start with the ocean/abyss or dark chaotic waters. Like their version of nonecistent is just chaos with no order. Would you say its the same for these Indo-Eurpopean myths or do they have more like a modern understanding of "nothing". Thanks.

  • @tcp1623

    @tcp1623

    Ай бұрын

    This story bears SOME similarities with the Nordic creation myth - written down in Icelandic some 800 years ago.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I have made a video, I fact many videos about this. Have a look at my channel and you'll find videos on the IE Creation Myth. I hope you enjoy them.

  • @thebordoshow
    @thebordoshowАй бұрын

    great video! I just made a video where I cover Caucasian version of Manu and Yemo, Manuka and Januka. It has a lot of similarities to this reconstructed myth but its more of a Flood myth than creation of the world and has the Bull fight the dragon. What I've researched (like Hindu Manu or Mazdian Yimo) its mostly about the destruction of the old world and recreation of the new, rather than outright a creation myth. maybe its like this in more eastern stories. keep up the good work

  • @user-pj5by8lx2m
    @user-pj5by8lx2mАй бұрын

    Pretty awesome story thank you.

  • @donkfail1
    @donkfail1Ай бұрын

    What a treat! What is the origin of the name "Ingri"? It's very close to the female "Ingrid", a quite common name here in Sweden (and I think in all Scandinavia + Iceland). Similar male names here being Inge and Ingvar. But I guess the origin of Ingri is other than old Norse.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    It was meant to be Ng Whi, but I didn’t pick up the mistake in the captions.

  • @majidbineshgar7156

    @majidbineshgar7156

    Ай бұрын

    It must probably be cognate with " Ignis = fire " in Latin-> proto -indo-european *h₁n̥gʷnís (“fire”).

  • @theunknownfragment5473
    @theunknownfragment5473Ай бұрын

    Sweet I get my favorite subject in ASMR form

  • @elizabethford7263
    @elizabethford7263Ай бұрын

    Wow. So many of these these and elements are at the core of our current modern existence. Of all the questions I have, the predominant one is: how would the world be different if the primordial myths did not involve sacrifice and salvation?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    If you don't sacrifice something how do you show you really believe in it?

  • @joannemccuaig6041
    @joannemccuaig6041Ай бұрын

    Very cool story!

  • @antidweller6373
    @antidweller6373Ай бұрын

    Reminds me of the Bundahišn.

  • @Valdagast
    @ValdagastАй бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @Baptized_in_Fire.
    @Baptized_in_Fire.Ай бұрын

    Nice. I still would like to hear older stories that don't have recent additions, like farming, in them. I'll guess that 15,000 years old and back is where they would be found. I would like to know about our carnivorous past and what people believed when they knew fatty meat was life. I've never seen a cave painting of a salad or potato.

  • @guidoivanmendez2354
    @guidoivanmendez2354Ай бұрын

    All the myths condensed in one!! Incredible!! And by the way, the serpent was also a universal symbol of chaos, not only for indoeuropeans. Do you guys, believe that there was an original mythology from before our ancestors left Africa? I know, sounds crazy, but is just incredible to find similar stories around all the globe. Love your channel. Keep up the excellent work!!

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, I have made a video about this, our oldest creation myth.

  • @majidbineshgar7156

    @majidbineshgar7156

    Ай бұрын

    You are free to believe that your ancestors left Africa based on a mere hypothesis Not a fact , whereas most Eurasians do not believe their ancestors came from Africa .

  • @guidoivanmendez2354

    @guidoivanmendez2354

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford i'll check it out. Thank you!!!

  • @thedivinemrm5832

    @thedivinemrm5832

    Ай бұрын

    @@majidbineshgar7156 Cringe...

  • @Dice_roller

    @Dice_roller

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@majidbineshgar7156Don't make me laugh.

  • @user-wk8nk6zk7c
    @user-wk8nk6zk7cАй бұрын

    Basque mythology for diversity

  • @chriselliott4621

    @chriselliott4621

    Ай бұрын

    Would be best taught and told from the Basque themselves.

  • @chocoquark4831

    @chocoquark4831

    Ай бұрын

    Yay, stories older than indoeuropeans! This will be very interesting.

  • @BaltimoresBerzerker

    @BaltimoresBerzerker

    Ай бұрын

    He does a good amount of non indo European myths. But that's his academic focus if I remember correctly. So he does mostly indo European stuff

  • @shanegooding4839
    @shanegooding4839Ай бұрын

    Interesting how the Germanic version moved Mannus into the position of Tuisto's son. Assuming that Tuisto is a form of Yemo of course. While the Norse Odin is Ymirs grandson.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, but we also have to be a little cautious on the reliability of this, but also the myth changed the three parts of Yemo’s body to three regions of land. And so there would be an evolution dependant on society and the environment. What is really interesting is how Manu disappears from the Old Norse myth, a myth that probably influenced the Germanic myths initially. Where did Manu go, the reasonably young god Odin.

  • @ReaderBoy-ql7qj

    @ReaderBoy-ql7qj

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford One more thing in the Indic myth... Manu was a king... where the god of cosmic order Vishnu... took the form of a fish and informed Manu about the upcoming flood that would destroy humanity... and asked him to get onto an Ark, and carry all the necessary things, 7 sages, food supplies and animals with him. Tell me why would Manu be added into a story which is completely similar to the Semetic-biblical stories? A character that was supposed to be the primordial God. Doesn't really make sense... and also Manuus is the word used to describe a person in India and or Old Persia... which is (Manushya) although Yemo/Yama was sacrificed... both of these guys would later become to be the Sons of the SUN God in the Indic Faith... I'm kinda missing out on something things here btw...

  • @victor_bueno_br
    @victor_bueno_brАй бұрын

    Beautiful!

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @abhiramn474
    @abhiramn474Ай бұрын

    Great video! 👍 In India, I believe the Austroasiatic cultures have given birth to the Vedic idea of the cosmic egg.

  • @wramper
    @wramperАй бұрын

    Pretty good!!!

  • @tejasnair3399
    @tejasnair3399Ай бұрын

    Is the Mahabharata a work that exhibits somr influence of Hellenistic Greek culture? I was thinking that because it says online it was compiled between the 3rd centuries BCE and CE, which is the same time as there was this cultural cross-polinization in Gandhara and with the Kushans and so forth, from whom we see this golden age of Greco-Buddhist artwork, as well as perhaps the first manuscripts of the Buddha’s teachings. I’m starting to view that period, along with the reign of Shah Jahan as artistic Golden Ages in India’s history. I’ve seen discussions online that the Mahabharata could’ve been influenced by the Illiad. If this Hellenistic influence extends to Hindu epics is India as a much an heir to the Ancient Greeks as is Europe?

  • @gaufrid1956
    @gaufrid1956Ай бұрын

    Cows are important. My wife and I have two Brahman cows here in Mindanao Philippines. It's easy to understand why cows were such a great part of the Proto-Indo-European creation myth.

  • @chadgoose7886
    @chadgoose788611 күн бұрын

    Dark souls intro

  • @ArnavSharma-bj4ct
    @ArnavSharma-bj4ctАй бұрын

    A fascinating video. You used rigveda 10.129 rigveda 10.190 rigveda 1.105 rigveda right. There are a lot others as well for ex purusha sukta(rigveda 10.90.1) right. As far as norse mythology goes you might be referring to voluspa verse 3 right

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I combined many creation myths from the Indo-European cultures, and picked the oldest versions along with the common stories, and then leveraged other’s work to ensure academic concensus.

  • @ximono

    @ximono

    Ай бұрын

    I find parts of Rigveda 10.129 to be curiously similar to 道德經 (Tao Te Ching), at least Yuhui Liang's English translation.

  • @ArnavSharma-bj4ct

    @ArnavSharma-bj4ct

    Ай бұрын

    @@ximono True bro true. I always find taoism and hinduism very similar. And I also read Tao te Ching. When you look at the Brahman in upanishads and look at Tao you don't see any differences. People always say Chinese philosophy is either Confucius or buddhism but the reality is taoism is older than both of them. Not only that but when you look at greek philosophy they are very similar to brahmanism as well.

  • @ArnavSharma-bj4ct

    @ArnavSharma-bj4ct

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford That's great

  • @ximono

    @ximono

    Ай бұрын

    @@ArnavSharma-bj4ct Absolutely. Heraclitus especially of the greeks.

  • @luciferostelladirubino5208
    @luciferostelladirubino5208Ай бұрын

    This video is beautiful.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @Noeaskr
    @NoeaskrАй бұрын

    What source gave you the idea that the gods were born from their thoughts?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Why does there need to be a single source?

  • @Noeaskr

    @Noeaskr

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford ok source(s) just curious where that came from, not familiar with it.

  • @Noeaskr

    @Noeaskr

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford so there isn’t one? I believe in Hinduism the gods come from Yemo’s parts. So not aware of the gods existing before explained anywhere or the gods coming from Manu and Yemo thoughts explained anywhere. If there is I’d like to know.

  • @Merikat07
    @Merikat07Ай бұрын

    Is the Greek myth of Apollo slaying Python related at all to Trito and the serpent?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, I have made some videos about dragon slaying, however the Apollo myth has less Indo-European influence than some of the others, as the hero isn’t Trito and no bovines are rescued.

  • @Merikat07

    @Merikat07

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford I see, thank you for the reply! I visited Delphi last May, it was one of the most magical places I’ve ever been and I couldn’t help think of the hero slaying a reptile serpent

  • @teyanuputorti7927
    @teyanuputorti7927Ай бұрын

    Great story many similarities with other creation stories

  • @glennsimonsen8421
    @glennsimonsen8421Ай бұрын

    The Genesis account is the only creation story which begins with a God outside of Time and Space. God speaks the material Universe into existence and remains outside of SpaceTime. Every other creation myth begins with something material. This one begins with some cosmic seeds which hatch out hot and cold mist which go on to make gods and cows and such. Where'd the seeds come from?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    If you take Genesis 1:1-2 apart, you realize the god it refers to is Marduk, and so not a god out of time and space. But I can understand why believers in the Abrahamic faiths would think that based on translations of those lines.

  • @Spoeism
    @SpoeismАй бұрын

    The Tocharian bridge Eastern beliefs with Western.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_Ай бұрын

    Logic and internal consistency are not very important to those inventing mythology!😂 Still, a well presented video!👏

  • @rahulj.005
    @rahulj.005Ай бұрын

    Hey, you never talked about the 'Battle of 10 kings' in vedas. You said you will 2 years ago but till now you didn't. It's a crucial part of Indo-European history, especially the Indo-aryan. You should have covered it.

  • @patrickbureau1402
    @patrickbureau1402Ай бұрын

    sorry - couzin Do you know this book ? - change me as a teenager ... IMAGES ENCYCLOPEDIA by Allan Wesler PHD FN'84. It surveys 367 images from the Terminal Ice Age decorated caves (the first art in the world) through primitive and ancient civilizations to today's societies and religions; and conjoins the images within the singularity of a graphic Snake Ring Story by advanced toolmakers in the Terminal Ice Age caves initiating

  • @royarnejosefsen1863
    @royarnejosefsen1863Ай бұрын

    Silmarillion next?

  • @flawlesslygurdy748
    @flawlesslygurdy748Ай бұрын

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @CharlesHuse
    @CharlesHuseАй бұрын

    In some respects, this is a lot closer to the creation myths of the Norse sagas than it is to the Torah/Bible. Being of Germanic/Slavic descent, I find this very favorable.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    That is because the Bible is influence significantly from the Near East, where as the Old Norse myth is significantly influenced by the Indo-European cultures. Still, both also have influence from the other cultures too.

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
    @user-qs7gx7rp7mАй бұрын

    Yaweh - Storm God ?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    It is said that Yahweh was at one point in his evolution a Storm God.

  • @user-qs7gx7rp7m

    @user-qs7gx7rp7m

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford Indeed. Caught a show just recently. Yaweh was doing OK till he met Lilith. Don't recall if that's what turned him into a Storm God or not : )

  • @Leo-us4wd
    @Leo-us4wd10 күн бұрын

    You mention an ocean God, may it have been either the Black sea or the Caspian sea or perhaps both?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    8 күн бұрын

    The Caspian Sea may well have been more in the minds of the earliest Indo-European speakers when creating their myths. However, in truth, gods were more like spirits, the "life force" of nature, and so not as we really consider them today.

  • @Samuel42069
    @Samuel42069Ай бұрын

    So in this tale that warior was only source in the eyes of other humans that he "defeated" the serpent. What if serpent just gave it to him because he liked people and then that warior lied just as his favorite storm god lied?

  • @judewarner1536

    @judewarner1536

    Ай бұрын

    This is an ancient myth, and it is what it is. Surely, it does not require falsification in a 21st century reimagining?

  • @stargatis
    @stargatisАй бұрын

    Tell me a story

  • @VanaheimrUllr
    @VanaheimrUllrАй бұрын

    b-e-a-u-t-i-f-u-l

  • @iamdigory
    @iamdigoryАй бұрын

    There is no way that this is disconnected from the mesoamarican hero twins

  • @Noeaskr
    @NoeaskrАй бұрын

    Needs to be written in a meter!

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    That will be published in my book.

  • @Noeaskr

    @Noeaskr

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford what meter did you choose?

  • @aripiispanen9349
    @aripiispanen9349Ай бұрын

    ♪♫♥- Very Interesting - Thank you for sharing this ;)

  • @Ponakalaranjit456
    @Ponakalaranjit456Ай бұрын

    Instead of Ranjit P I am gonna change my KZread channel as a channel dedicated to myths and folklore of the World.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    I hope you are successful, you can never see too much content about myths!

  • @csolisr
    @csolisrАй бұрын

    And now we wait for somebody to translate it to Dnghu a.k.a. Proto-Indo-European

  • @rosstaytie3712
    @rosstaytie3712Ай бұрын

    ta

  • @nukhetyavuz
    @nukhetyavuzАй бұрын

    skyfather gökturks tengriism ancient siberia animalism ... a time where ancient people were among animals,hundreds of thousands of animals,and where they would most probably be happy encountering each other,and exchanging cultures,rather than eradicating each other... 🧿

  • @user-dt5fp1xp5e

    @user-dt5fp1xp5e

    Ай бұрын

    warfare was more common then

  • @majidbineshgar7156

    @majidbineshgar7156

    Ай бұрын

    Tian (天) is one of the oldest Chinese terms for heaven , since the proto-turkic peoples lived side by side Chinese civilisation then they must have borrowed that cosmology Ten-ri( cognate with chinese Tian (天) ) from the Chinese.

  • @nukhetyavuz

    @nukhetyavuz

    Ай бұрын

    @@majidbineshgar7156 thanks for that info...i always defend this...once most thing,especially what considers spirituality and humanity was more globla,universal and unbiased... people shared more,especially of similiar cultures,and when they encountered a different one,they taught each other...nothing like manipulaton,greed,ego and stuff...there was only one god...the sky god... greeks took it and named it skyfather...it was most probably scythian,prototurk origin,stemming from siberia...greetings to china🌎

  • @theotheagendashill818

    @theotheagendashill818

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@majidbineshgar7156iirc they're not cognates and the ancient Chinese word for Tian was quite different than its present-day form

  • @majidbineshgar7156

    @majidbineshgar7156

    Ай бұрын

    @@nukhetyavuz Thank you yes Indeed all humanity share some common elements of mythology and even underlying common linguistic structure , however Scythians were not Turkic , and I know that in Turkey as well as some Turkic speaking countries their official education claim as If Scythian had been Turkic, while one should note that Greeks and Latin historians related Scythians to Persian world and the direct descendants of Scythian Alans i.e. Ossetians have survived who speak an Iranic language .

  • @sunnysuryani5674
    @sunnysuryani5674Ай бұрын

    Wasn't this already posted before?

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    This has been rewritten as a standalone piece, and so no, this has not been posted before.

  • @benkah5055
    @benkah5055Ай бұрын

    Great job articulating the root of Gilgamesh, the signs form astrology and many other primordial stories. however, I would add that That there is a lot of evidence behind yemo being intersexed... Why were the Greeks and Romans so terrified of intersex children that they destroyed them from birth?..... They are not the only cultures where these people are. Centerstaged

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    Only in specific cultures where Yemo is considered the first primordial being, and so often Manus has been replaced… for example in the Old Norse, where Yemo is Ymir, and Odin has taken the place of Manus. And the reason for this is far to complex to write here, but I could make a video about it one day.

  • @benkah5055

    @benkah5055

    Ай бұрын

    @@Crecganford Fair enough. Good job on summing up almost countless human histories into 7 minutes

  • @patrickbureau1402
    @patrickbureau1402Ай бұрын

    So ... Aboot Middle Earth... Aint on me map..

  • @robertd9067
    @robertd9067Ай бұрын

    I have never been this early, so Raise your Swords in honor of the Sky Father today and take all the cows you see, clearly those other people stole them from you and your kinsmen

  • @arkemiffo
    @arkemiffoАй бұрын

    I wonder what the source is for the milk from the cow. You specifically said "they could even use its milk to feed themselves and their children". That's what I'm having problem believing it's actually part of the original myth. Lactose tolerance most likely began about 10.000 years ago, according to genetic studies. At the most densest tolerance population today, it's only roughly 75%, while in other parts of the world, only 25%, and that's after 10.000 years. This myth would've been started only about 2.000 years after lactose tolerance started to become a thing, and it would be rare at this stage. I'm not saying that it is false, or incorrect that it's part of the myth, but I'm saying I would love to see some more in-depth about this, as it ties into what we know about the pre-historic eras.

  • @Crecganford

    @Crecganford

    Ай бұрын

    This is a very interesting part of the myth, and one I will expand upon either later this year or next once my research on it has been completed. We must understand that the nurturing nature of cattle is of a Neolithic Farming influence, and so the earliest myth had this within it, before the cattle became more sacred.

  • @DrD0000M

    @DrD0000M

    Ай бұрын

    There are lactose-intolerant cultures that still used milk via fermenting processes that convert the lactose to digestible sugars. Fermented milk, yogurts and certain hard cheeses can be eaten by those with intolerance. Cultures in Sudan and Tibet used fermented milk products. And don't forget, children up to age 5 everywhere can drink straight milk and even in majority lactose intolerant societies, there are still thousands that are tolerant of lactose into adulthood. Also, lactose intolerance is usually not 100%, that is intolerant people still produce the lactase enzyme, just a very tiny amount, so they can still sample dairy foods within small limits.