Are any of you interested in the Paleolithic period, its culture and religious growth?

@ajithsidhu7183

2 жыл бұрын

Please do on warfare and how they trained warriors

@ajithsidhu7183

2 жыл бұрын

Also on the sky father in indo european culture

@ajithsidhu7183

2 жыл бұрын

Indo aryan india please

@ajithsidhu7183

2 жыл бұрын

Indo aryan north indian culture

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajithsidhu7183 I will do all of these in time :) Thank you

Can’t stop thinking about how insanely exciting it would’ve been for a group of men to bring down a giant lion. And how much kudos would’ve made finding a mate easier.

@donaldsharpe9914

5 ай бұрын

I think bacis human thought is so much more simpler than that. Why does everything have to be so deep. Artist do this all the time, is it possible they just liked the way it looked and there was never a deep hidden meaning.

@samstarlight160

5 ай бұрын

@@donaldsharpe9914 If you mean this in particular, I think a large part of why we assume these things had meaning is because of how much more difficult art was back then. It's not like pulling out a pencil after work and doodling on a page. Someone took a large amount of time to do this, time that could have been spent doing other work like carving tools, hunting and foraging, or other activities really important to their survival. It's very unlikely that someone just did this for some flight of fancy. They spent time, effort, and energy on this when all three of those would have been in pretty short supply.

@lancelaurel3828

5 ай бұрын

@@donaldsharpe9914yeah, basic human thought is simple. But the key word in your description is basic. If you leave a human in a room with no stimulation, they will still think. Those thoughts will vary from simple to complex, but thoughts are just drops of a larger ocean of information. This ocean is infinitely complex and art is ALWAYS calling back to this ocean, whether the viewer notices and on what level, this is up to the viewer.

@fbauzo024fb

4 ай бұрын

What if its a statue of heracles.

@samstarlight160

4 ай бұрын

​@@fbauzo024fbIt isn't

I originate from the small village of about 1.000 inhabitants where the lion man has been discovered. We're very proud of having the status of a world's heritage by the UN... One of the explorers lived for a while in my parents' and grand-parents' house in the late 70ies...

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

That's amazing!

@laurap6534

5 ай бұрын

Very cool

@chaishalom8701

5 ай бұрын

What explorers and in what century?

@Jake-zk3eb

5 ай бұрын

Nice story.

I just opened youtube and saw I had another response from you, Jon. I want to tell you, you interact with your viewers more than any other youtuber out there. I really appreciate the individual attention and I know others do, too. Thank you so much! 😊

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

I try my best :) thank you

Not only did they have to devote that many hours to making it instead of hunting/gathering, there were also many hours spent practicing such carvings to get to ones that look as precise and detailed as that one.

@chochonubcake

8 ай бұрын

Good point. That implies that someone in the clan was charged with making these artifacts, and the others were committed to supporting that person full time.

@HeavyLefty

6 ай бұрын

@@chochonubcake prolly N old person or a woman who made this, they we’re not much hunting, a little gathering

@carymartin1150

5 ай бұрын

Not really, people engaged in crafts like this when they couldn't hunt; at night and during the winter for example.

@HeavyLefty

5 ай бұрын

@@stevhen42 yes, that is why we now have cities, cars and airplanes now, no?

@Noooiiiissseee

5 ай бұрын

@@HeavyLefty Source?

Very interesting, I would definitely be interested in more videos on the Palaeolithic. The cultural evolution that you talk about probably happened many years before the carving of the lion-man, as the first caving were probably made using easier to carve materials; i.e. wood and / or clay (hardened in the sun, not fired), and so have not survived to our time. Unfortunately, with no such carving having survived, we are left guessing when these concepts first occurred to our ancestors. Both the lion-man and the Venus of Hohle Fels (both made from mammoth ivory) are the oldest know figures, both dated to between 35,000 and 40,000 years ago, while the first cave paintings of animals and people date back 45,500 years, and a hand-stencil from the Cave of Maltravieso (Spain) has been dated to 64,000 years old.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, the real change probably happened between 45 and 50k years ago, and I will talk about this more in the coming months, and about the Venus figures and the cave paintings and common symbology within them, and what they can tell us about religious thought. It is a fascinating time, and I will do more on this time period. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment :)

@francisfischer7620

7 ай бұрын

Yes! Yes!

@strappedfatman7858

6 ай бұрын

The altar and pillar! Isaiah 19:19 Revelation 5:5 The Land of Nod, Was the sign of Cain a Lion. Cain worshipped Jehovah God. He offered sacrifices to him. So did Jehovah forgive him by marking his land with the Lion. The Mark of Cain. Genesis 4:13 At this Cain said to Jehovah: “The punishment for my error is too great to bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land,* and I will be hidden from your face; and I will become a wanderer and a fugitive on the earth, and anyone who finds me will certainly kill me.” 15 So Jehovah said to him: “For that reason, anyone who kills Cain will suffer vengeance seven times.” So Jehovah established a sign for Cain in order that no one finding him would strike him. 16 Then Cain went away from before Jehovah and took up residence in the land of Exile, to the east of Eʹden. Genesis 4:24 If 7 times Cain is to be avenged, Then Laʹmech 77 times.” Matthew 18:21 Then Peter came and said to him: “Lord, how many times is my brother to sin against me and am I to forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22 Jesus said to him: “I say to you, not up to seven times, but up to 77 times.23 “That is why the Kingdom of the heavens may be likened to a king who wanted to settle accounts with his slaves.

@strappedfatman7858

6 ай бұрын

Compare bible translations verses. [System of Things] vs [End of the Age] [Morning Star] vs [Bright Morning Star] I do realize how a word or phrases changes the meaning. I used the King James Bible that's where I learned God's name. Psalms 83:18 unless you use a revised King James Bible. Matthew 20:18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the [system of things].” Jesus is the Bright Morning Star. Jesus said I would be with his disciples until the end of the age. Matthew 28:20 Teach these new disciples to obey all the commands I have given you. And be sure of this: I am with you always, even to the [end of the age].” The end of the age was 2012 it was The Transit of Venus and Jesus is the Bright morning star. Revelation 22:16 “‘I, Jesus, sent my angel to bear witness to you about these things for the assemblies. I am the root and the offspring of David and the [bright morning star].’” Jesus shows up in Jerusalem when he is 12 years old. He shows up 18 years later and throws out the money changers. So 2012 + 18 years 2030. But right after when the 8th King is ruling the earth. I use bible hub for most translations and New World Translation. Here's the Dragon. Revelation 13:11 This is why the beast like a lamb started speaking like a dragon. Satan is a morning star who was hurled to the earth. The morning star of 1874 The Transit of Venus. Who gathered the nations for the Great War of 1914. Isaiah 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, [morning star], son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! Isiah 14:12 How has Lucifer, that rose in the morning, fallen from heaven! He that sent orders to all the nations is crushed to the earth.

@arkamukhopadhyay9111

6 ай бұрын

@@strappedfatman7858 please, spare us the zealotry

Just found your channel about 2 weeks ago and I have been binge watching them like mad - this story is nearly my favorite of all. Appreciate your channel - keep up the great work!

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I appreciate your support :)

@beanndip

Жыл бұрын

I'm at about this stage as well. I found him about 2 weeks ago. I'm about a third through the content. Very high quality.

I can imagine a connection between the lion man and Hercules, who also appears in multiple cultures

Thank you so much for sharing your vast wealth of stories!!

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching :)

I've long thought modern humans and our older ancestors were not all too dissimilar.. if you ask people today 'why did you do that?', they often reply 'because I can' , and rhey did it for no orher reason but that they could, and so they did. And then everyone else reads something into it. Your videos are epic.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching so many of them, and for commenting, it all helps and is really appreciated.

@6Haunted-Days

6 ай бұрын

Yea no one is devoting the time it Took to make this item as just cuz meh they could….🙄🤷🏼‍♀️😂 The had little to no free time and hard harsh living…..Christ….think what you want, typical ignorant uneducated person assuming they of course know more so much more than someone that’s educated in these subjects. Well an uneducated opinion is about pointless and inane imo. So I guess dismiss all he’s said in the video and all the worlds experts have said on what it means and how amazing it is. To you it’s some, trinket someone made cuz they were bored 😂🙄🤡 I give up.

@jm329

5 ай бұрын

@@6Haunted-Days Wasn’t it shown that they would have a lot more free time than we do?

@gmork1090

5 ай бұрын

@@jm329 They had a lot more free time. After dark they did absolutely nothing but stay inside near a fire.

this statuette has fascinated me for quite some time now, really pleased you covered this area

I cant believe I haven't found your channel before. Love this stuff and your production. and what a voice! Excited to dive in over Christmas. Thanks a million.

The “Lion Man” looks a lot like a Ken doll. He is so tall and upstanding, but he looks relaxed and even smiles calmly. I think he would be a good buddy for children or adults. Like a night-light for the scary cave.

@DJWESG1

Жыл бұрын

Even Disneyesque

What an amazing channel. I am a writer and Poet, and these are exactly the things, that inspire my writing. Ancient Folklore, tales, legends and art. Sometimes, I feel closer to my ancient Colleagues than to my contemporaries.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I get a lot of creative types here, especially authors, as they enjoy these journeys into our past. I hope you find something that inspires you.

Thank you for the work you do. Your steadfast research and concise reporting is a real gift. You have helped to deepen my understanding and curiosity about what it means to be a human being. Cheers!

Very interested in the Venus statuettes. In the Neolithic phase in Malta there was a significant number of examples found emphasizing female figures. And well done for your videos, I m hooked. I ve been looking all over the place for articles and look forward to read the book of David Anthony. You make the past human, as history does.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. I will talk more about the venuses, hopefully in the near future.

@jmarsh5485

2 жыл бұрын

I'm reading it at the moment, very interesting indeed but I am trying to remind myself, as a novice, that there are other hypotheses, for example the anatolia hypothesis, which I think... I specific to PIE language. I'm really looking forward to Steve Mithens 'after the ice' as my next read because it seems relevant to there era Jon is talking about here, it's details 20,000 bc to 5,000bc. You will love David Anthony I'm sure 👍

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmarsh5485 I'm pretty sure the Anatolian hypothesis for PIE is now considered by many, the far lesser likely of the two theories, mainly due to the horse domestication. But, and its a big but, equally people do move around, and in different directions, so there will never be a clear picture. The answer may come in a couple of years once the Crick institute here in the UK stop doing Covid DNA analysis and get back to their project of DNA sampling 7,000 ancient bodies. That will provide some incredible information. And yes, I will slowly cover 5,000 to 40,000BCE, this is an era that really interests me, from the Upper Paleolithic to the Neolithic. And as we go through this journey via my videos I'll continue to link to the books and papers I have used to help build my videos.

@jmarsh5485

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford I see, very interesting, thanks for the feedback. The other hypothesis is the Armenian hypothesis on a quick Google, for other noobs like me. The Crick institute sampling sounds promising.

I would love to hear about current research on the possible, likely probable, cultural & artistic exchanges that occurred between different humans. Cave art previously attributed to sapiens were recently attributed to Neanderthals. Denisovans likely produced highly refined jewelry and tools. They clearly interbred so it seems likely there was an exchange of mythology and art.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, and I can add that to the list of videos to make.

I greatly appreciate this channel and the wealth of information presented here as well as the even-tempered, soft-spoken manner in which you present the information. I'm equally curious about your collection of artifact replicas. Is there a website or two that you'd recommend purchasing such items from? I'm thinking about starting a collection myself and wondering where to begin.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Some are originals, but others I get from a museum curator who makes moulds from the Czech Republic. He sometimes advertises on eBay so check out replicas on there.

massive amounts of information packed into a short space of time! brilliant vid 🔥

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much,.

@paulmilligan2657

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford welcome brother! when you said Lionman is 40,000 years old I had to rewind to make sure I hadn't misheard, what an incredible artefact... may I ask where you got the Lionman figure? I would love a replica keep on keeping on 👍

I e joy your videos. Thank you. We have art in coastal Africa something like 80,000+ that clearly shows creative thinking in fantastic mysteries. This is, indeed, an aspect of human capabilities. To have great imaginations and manifest them is quite a feat, and one that Snorri suggested was why the Æsir were considered godly, “because they made nature do what they wanted.” Of course, it also appears that something like this may have happened with the spread of the Yamnaya culture. What really sets us, humans, up as the “chosen people (animal/creation) to see God,” apart from our other life, even other hominids, is that we developed a genetic ability to narrate stories. Neanderthal, for example, could speak but could not hold down a conversation where one “fantasy” could be easily transferred to another mind. They could learn, but always by experience like “on the job training.” We, on the other hand, can tell a story, which became the ability to write and read them for preservation. This explains how the lion-man figure could have been passed around. Mentioning the “talking stick” kind of thing brought up an idea. Kings were depicted as many animals, but the fiery Lion became the Emperor seated in the throne of the heart. The watery Bull became the sacral region, associated with the basin of earth holding the soul essence from the moon. The moon was fashioned like the kidney, as the earth holds the rain that pours out of it. The lion killing the bull was the image of the Emperor enforcing his will upon the earth, manifesting his “divinely inspired” visions. We see this displayed in the Etana myth where he learns about the fight between the Eagle and Serpent. He was told by Shamash, the Sun god who witnessed the oath between the beings where they agreed to feed each other’s children with the spoils of their hunts. While out hunting, the Seroent lost her children to the Eagle, who fed his children with hers. One son warned his father to honor his oath and supposedly refused the meal as well. She returned to an empty nest, so she demanded Shamash tell her how to be avenged. He said she should hide in a bull’s carcass and strike when the Eagle feasts…so she did, and that’s how the Eagle was trapped in an earth pit without feathers. Etana was told to give the Eagle its feathers back and it would fly him to the highest heaven for an herb of progeny by which he could have an heir for his kingdom. The Eagle took him to the first heaven, where Etana saw his prayer hut (sweat lodge?), then to the second heaven where he saw the extent of his entire kingdom as he gained a sky view of it. Then he got scared going up to the highest heaven and demanded to be let down. Look at Loki and Thiazi… Loki used a bull sacrifice to draw the attention of the Eagle. Loki, however, couldn’t heat the carcass up enough to eat it because it was so huge. Thiazi had to help and, claiming the champion portion like Keltic warriors, ate the choicest pieces. Loki took a stick from the fire and stuck the birds ribs. Loki’s hands stuck (as fire clings to both ends). He was dragged across the tree line (first heaven), then along the Rocky Mountain tops (second heaven), then Loki begged to be let down! His price for this freedom, however, was to attain Iðunna (Etana) for the Eagle! Immortality for humans is progeny, but there has been an academic comparison with Indra stealing Soma from the Asuras while gaining the favor of the çayana (Phoenix), which he rode as a horse to the mountain. Krshanu, the archer, failed to protect the herb and as the thief flew away the archer shot at them. The Eagle dodged it but dropped a feather that fell upon this earth to become the first Agni fire altar. The Phoenix feather is important in Chinese culture, but Etana gave the featherless Eagle flaming ones while the Æsir removed Thiazi’s feathers with flames! The real importance to us here links the Mesopotamian theme to Icelandic through classical Greece. A thiassi is a religious cult of Greek culture. And the Sanskrit cognate to Greek Prometheus is the name for a stick, taken from the fire in order to teach writing! This is how comparative studies of myth, religious ideology, and cultural practices can enlighten human cultural evolution as we are all one family, spreading our stories in a never-ending appropriation process. We learn, forget, and relearn for others.

I found and wonder the Lion man and Narasimha in Hindu and Elshaddai in Hebrew connection. Also, there was a king in Sumerian name Narasimha as well. Lion man may reflect level of consciousness had already developed.

I love this video ive been having trouble sleeping but your voice is very soothing and i now feel relaxed thank you so much

Wonderful! Fantastic lecture! Thank you for taking your precious time to create this remarkable lecture for us! I can't believe I've never bumped into you before! Wonderful scholarship! Bless you!! I can't wait to listen to your other lectures!! You're remarkable!! Dr. Fischer

Thank you so much for this video this is such a significant artifact

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed it is, more than many people realise…

It'd be interesting to hear your views Gobekli Tepe. It seems belief structures were more fundamental to social development and that was seemingly necessary for big groups to coexist. To me, it seems very much reasonable that technological developments we seem to champion so much, like farming, are secondary products of human activity when compared to the cognitive developments in the paleolithic. The apparent surge that has happened in the last 12,000 years seems to me to be merely a numbers game benefitting cultural transmission. Whereas as the intial ability to combine ideas, as you've talked about here, what I'd call spiritual speculation seems far more fundamental to the technological developments being possible because of how we think about what i call creative adaptivity. I find it interesting imagining how people may have met up in bigger numbers along spiritual or rather ritual lines, when foraging in small groups was the day to day. That alonr shows spiritual social cohesion, if indeed my impressions are right. Coexisting together consistently hasn't come cheaply or rationally but theres a prioritisation of what I see as an intellectual pursuit that makes civilisation possible. Maybe farming just made it efficient. The fact we see the incredible craft of Gobekli tepe before catalhoyuk seems to support this.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, a great idea, and this is something I am working on, but is a huge topic, and one that is constantly changing due to new findings, which in turn produce new theories and papers. But I will tackle it, but possible in a different way to how others have, so we can understand what is going that would have created such a culture.

Thank you very much, as always, this is a wonderful presentation of a very well researched topic. It is also engaging, interesting and I hope your audience grows, it is worth watching.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, and for taking the time to comment. It all helps support the channel.

@juanfervalencia

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford I am very grateful to you. I find this content very good. My best wishes, keep on with it, I will watch them and share them. I'm from Colombia, I hope one day you can do one about amerindian myths.

Marvellous video! Thank you!

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Hi Crecganfort, I am fascinated by the Gundestrup cauldron. It has a representation of the Lustration of Lakshmi and a fascinating detail which relates to the group of folk stories called “the three gifts”.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

It is a fascinating piece capturing some amazing iconography. Hmmm, I'm not sure if I can add anything to what has already been said about it, but I will have a look again.

So cool to see evidence of the invention of metaphor. I love the Lion Man. I'd love more paleolithic origins videos like this!

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Evidence is tricky to find, but there are a couple more planned, I hope you come back to watch them.

I'n enjoying your channel so much. Thanks for the information.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching and commenting :)

Love your work! Many thanks

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching

12:19 Us: "Maybe he was flying or laying down" 10,000 years ago : "Shit man, I messed up on his feet" Other dude : "just keep it like that, maybe in 100 years they'll say he can fly or something" Other guy: "LOL, ok"

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, very good! But on a serious note none of the Venus figures have feet either... But I much prefer your version of events :)

@briananderson2219

2 жыл бұрын

😅😂🤣You ain’t right man

Interesting connections you make in this video. I am very interested in the Lowenmensch because it was made and found in my ancestral region of Swabia, and I even discussed it in a February 2020 article I wrote: "Roots of Proto-Celtic/Germanic Mythos, folk faith in prehistoric Swabia?" Part of my ongoing effort to reconstruct a distinctly Swabian Heathenry not only through the folklore but also by showing this continuity from the Paleolithic findings in our region, to the Celtic culture of the Hallstatt, and up to the Germanic Suebi and Alemanni. One continuous yet evolving faith rooted in our landscape, each of the three cultures adding to our worldview and different layers to our traditions. My own view is that the Lowenmensch expresses a shamanic view of the human merging with the animal spirit, such as we later saw in both Germanic and Celtic myths, and in warrior brotherhoods known to use such shamanic practices (although this was mostly the bear and wolf). Its animistic and from such findings (alongside others from the same period across Europe) we can see the earliest expressions of the various myths about either using or merging with animal spirits on this shamanic journey to other worlds. Coming full circle back to your argument, perhaps it was through such shamanic journeys that opened up people's minds and imagination to these new contextual abilities?

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

That is a challenge you have set yourself as the populations migrated and were replaced a number of times from the Upper Palaeolithic to the early Middle Ages. So myths created 40,000 years ago would have been replaced by other migrations especially those post the YD event. Good luck!

Excellent video. Thank you for sharing.

Another excellent interesting video my friend

Can't believe how much I love his channel. Normally, without lots of images and animation, you can't hold my attention. Yet, I'm binge watching. By the way, your accent sounds English and now and then Aussie. Would you be comfortable saying where you're from? Your complexion is so golden, actually Mediterranean and clear, not ruddy. You must have a rich mixture genetically with your exotic appearance.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your kind words, they are really appreciated. I have travelled a lot in my lifetime, but I was born in a small town called Crayford, which is on the edge of London. And it is that town that used to be called Crecganford, and is mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles on the entry for 456/7 CE :)

@jmarsh5485

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, we are spoilt! And inspired. I think Jon just simply loves sharing the content and is confident the quality (ie well researched academic sources) will speak for itself. And it certainly does. With Jon, being very likeable and listenable, the content is SO accessible, and bingeworthy if the algorithm has only just brought you here. We've got an amazing ability to identify with people despite the millenia between us. And stories are fundamental, I believe we are born to believe, essentially, that's what sets us apart from other species. And I don't think my mind will ever piece itself back together after it was blown apart listening 'the cosmic hunt' so hopefully you've got to that one already if not soon. ☺

I HIGHLY recommended reading _The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind_ by Julian Jaynes. (Also it's a shame you stopped the original intro/outro you used to do, I liked those very much)

@dreamok732

Жыл бұрын

And following that with Iain McGilchrist. (Though he probably already has.)

Thank you for this presentation Hank Schrader

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t have a beard though :)

Keep up the good work!!! ✊ never heard of this topic before

Thank you very much for your videos. They are really great!

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching and your kind words.

Very interesting! Thank you! I would definitely like to hear more about the way the human mind became what it is today, at if we stepped out of a cloud of animalistic behaviour into our modern conscious experience.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

There are a few theories about this, and the consumption of fungi is something I’m hearing more about, although am not convinced that happened at this point. It may have come with a job in the complexity of speech. It is a very interesting time period.

@Larcey

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford Thank you for replying Jon! I have also heard the theory about fungi being a catalyst, I agree this time period is fascinating. Your channel is fantastic because it gives us access to the layers which our modern minds seem to be built on through ancient stories, beliefs and language. I watch your videos about these old cultures and I feel I'm learning something about myself. You have done a fantastic job with this channel, I'm sure it's popularity is going to snowball.

@zanir2387

5 ай бұрын

@@Crecganford i think it was more simple: when our ancestors learned to light fire, and discovered that it made the meat easier to eat, it meant our brains got a bit more intake of nutrients, and it made the brain to develop more

@Road_Rash

5 ай бұрын

Even in our modern incarnation, there's still loads of animalistic behavior, so that has actually never been left behind...

I like what your podcast. Time to subscribe and all that. I can't see how thought and language could have developed individually or at different places since they seem to be the same thing. Language is definitely computational as much as communication.

another great video!!!

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@ptrpst

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford thank you buddy.

I’m sure glad I found your channel, you vids are so interesting

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching, and for taking the time to comment. It is appreciated.

Narasimha, avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu.

I had seen images of this statuette before, but I didn't really think about what it could teach us about the people who made it and why they might have made it. Interesting talk, Jon.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

And thank you for watching it, I'll be doing more video covering this period soon if you're interested.

@I_am_Irisarc

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford of course! But do it in your own time, man. Everyone wants you to cover so much that you're going to be at for years.....hopefully😉

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

@@I_am_Irisarc I have a list of about 120 videos I want to make, so I could be here.a while :)

Wow I have missed your videos! This just came up in my feed. I had to resubscribe.

@Crecganford

5 ай бұрын

Welcome back!

hey i don't usually comment but i wanted to say your content is great- thanks for sharing

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your support Jake, it is appreciated :)

Amazing! as all of the other videos. interested in the Venuses, and, on a different topic, how the Mittani got to be the ruling class in India, or how did Indra got there to be one of the main deities. Kind regards!

Thanks for the informative video, Jon. I also loved the reproduction of the lion-man, as well as the goddesses behind you. Where did you get them?

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I have a friend in a museum who casts replicas, a very good friend to have!

@alexanderjentes

5 ай бұрын

Hi Jon! Would you mind if I ask how much a cast reproduction costs? I would love to commission a copy of the Löwenmensch statuette for my two-year-old son. Thank you and kudos to you (and your channel)! ​@@Crecganford

Great video thanks

Thank you for this

... as a German Biologist - I live about 100 km from the place it was found - incredible it is supposed to be 40 000 years old. Where do those Imaginations come from? Down to Egypt and chimera of humans with animal parts.... a shamanic world of inner experiences. Mind Boggling!

@timocryst5449

Жыл бұрын

diese Löwenmenschen sind keine Götter, sondern schamanische Bilder aus der Zeit der Jäger und Sammler in Europa, die den Animismus als Religion hatten. Ca. 18.000 Jahre später kamen erneut Jäger und Sammler nach Europa. Diese beiden unterschiedlichen Gruppen haben es irgendwie geschafft, friedlich zusammen zu leben. Und aus diesen beiden Gruppen entstand in Europa die Nachfolgekultur der "Ackerbaukultur". Diese Ackerbaukultur entwickelte dann auf den Grundlagen des Animismus weibliche Götter. Wobei der Grundgedanke von Weiblichkeit als Schöpfer von Leben bereits noch im Animismus geboren worden sein muss. Männliche Götter gab es nur in den Patriarchaten der kriegerischen Viehhirtenkukturen, die um ca. 4.500 v. Chr. damit begannen die friedliche Ackerbaukultur kriegerisch zu unterwerfen und ihre Kleinkönigreiche zu gründen. Das war die Geburtsstunde eines bis heute andauernden Europas, dass mit sich und der ganzen Welt in ständigem Kriegszustand lebt. Diese Viehzüchter kamen aus den Steppen Osteuropas und zerstörten eine westeuropäische, friedliche Hochkultur mit Demokratie, Schifffahrt bis Malta (und wahrscheinlich darüber hinaus), Kupferschmieden, Goldverarbeitung, Hausbau, Keramik, Theater ect. In England wurden 90% der alteuropäischen Ureinwohner ermordet. Ich kann nicht erkennen, dass irgendetwas glorreiches in der Kultur der Indoeuropäer liegt. Aber ich kann erkennen, dass in der alteuropäischen Vorgängerkuktur eine Art Goldenes Zeitalter in Europa gewesen sein könnte. Ohne männliche Götter.

@michaeldiekmann6494

Жыл бұрын

..... how did they know what a lion is? .... I mean that population. I know lions existed in greece and the near east, but in germany?

@raginald7mars408

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldiekmann6494 .... someone called it “Löwen Mensch” - the head looks like “Lion” - it may be another “Cat” - like Head - used in a shamanic way of representing POWWER .. - and the statue may have been created somewhere else and was imported for rituals....we can make a thriller movie...

@michaeldiekmann6494

Жыл бұрын

@@raginald7mars408 If its from the outside that would make it even more interesting. To be honest a movie, Thriller or not, based on all we know about that Time could be quite haunting when done right.

@raginald7mars408

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldiekmann6494 @Michael Diekmann our modern tech kills all imagination. We can not imagine what a world that was - I can not even explain my son what a world that was growing up in Germany in the 1950 ´s. And we do not imagine - the harshness of the era of the “ice age” - which was NOT! “Ice” everywhere - may have forced unimaginable creativity like making such wonderful Magic Art. And we do not even systematically search for it. The origins of cultures leading to Göbekli Tepe... fascinates me everyday. Makes me trusting Plato and Atlantis ever more.... Now we approach a new edition of Bronze Age Collapse by a new 30 Year war. Who will find the broken remains of our world we LOVE to destroy....

I can almost imagine the backstory to the creation of this statue. Life was so hard that these people needed to be really brave and strong, just like the lions at the time, with with whom they identified due to the pack hunting aspect and being capable of bringing down similar sized prey. I am certain that often lions attacked and killed tribe members and very very few survived. Except one person, who managed to kill one, then wear the skin on his head, like we see even in some more recent cultures. This man became a local legend and people wanted to channel his power and luck for hunting bravery and success, thereby channeling the lion's strength. Then this legend was told long enough that eventually the person morphed half into a lion, and then someone started making statues for good fortune and channeling strength. They must have needed it back then for sure. While I appreciate all the grand assumptions around the significance of this object, I like to view it as an amazingly simple way of connecting to the state of mind, feelings and life of humans 40k years ago, and how little it actually changed at the core.

I enjoyed this video. Thanks.

Second video and I am Subscribed 👍

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support.

in Celtic culture the bear taboo seems to have developed such that the bear, the most feared and powerful creature in the known world, is referred to as ...well god. Art, meaning bear, is also another word/name for "god", and it appears the same god in Gaulish Europe was Artaius who the Romans equated with Mercury. They also equated the very important Celtic god Lugh/Lug with Mercury and maybe the Celts did too which is why they revered him so. Anyway, my rambling point was simply that I think people do worship what they fear - and admire - like a lion.

Jon, I only know of one other "Lion Man" reference, and that comes from Marcus Mumford! The cave lion was a dangerous predator, and I think you are right in suggesting that perhaps this was a ritual object, used by a tribal shaman either to gain the strength of the lion or to provide protection. My Higaonon wife is a baylan, essentially a shaman, healer and midwife, so I understand the concept. Daghang salamat sa nimo sa imong reply sa akong mga post! Thank you very much for your reply to my posts!

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

I do my best to respond to all civil posts, and so it is no problem at all.

@gaufrid1956

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford I discovered that the meaning of "Crecganford" is "the ford on the river Cray". The word "Crecgan" is similar to "Cregan", which coincidentally was the maiden surname of my maternal grandmother. I understand that name derives from Gaelic 'Creodhe", meaning "Heart".

@Mae_Dastardly

5 ай бұрын

The lion sculpter to his wife after breaking off an arm: i really fucked it up this time, didnt i my dear?

@gaufrid1956

5 ай бұрын

@@Mae_Dastardly Absolutely!

It seems to me that the very concept of Gods is integral to our nature, the more I look into the past the more certain pattern seem to emerge. My interpretation of our devotion to gods is, no matter which deity one worships or has worshipped, from harvest to sacrifice to law & order, at the end of the day for the individual it is done as an act of appreciation or expressing gratitude towards anything deemed important to us (As long as it isn't forced up on one). It's like offering your friends a helping hand; you know you don't have to do it, people most likely won't need your help either but the act itself of offering up time and energy for something that has no benefit to you is what makes it so beautiful. Your time and energy is given to something that you value, in my example it is your friends endeavors but can very well be just the sun rising too, and what better way to honor it by dedicating art to it.

And thousands upon thousands of years later we still ponder and worry about the same things , as we watch this video they sat around the fire and exchanged the same stories of their ancestors? It's wonderful and calming to imagine. Excellent thinking point, thx. 👍🌍🌎🌏

What are your thoughts on human evolution? Supposedly the first “modern human” were found about 300k years ago, yet as you mentioned here, we don’t seem to see evidence of “modern thinking” until 30-40k years ago. What do you think this means? Is it due to cultural propagation and humans gradually learning from each other, or were there neurophysiological changes involved? Are you aware of developmental theories involving a lowering of reactive aggression in humans and what do you think this entails? I’d love to see more videos talking about your thoughts and research on this and related topics.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

That is a really good question, and one I wish I had time to answer here. I think the answer is due to a number of things, and whatever it is, I’m glad it happened.

@yoeyyoey8937

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford yes no problem I totally understand and didn’t expect you to write an answer to this here, but you seem to know a lot so i just wanted to throw my hat in the ring to perhaps encourage you to make some future content on this. Anyways thanks for your response, your channel rocks!

@mrpocock

Жыл бұрын

I'm a little wary of the idea had we were cognitively or cultural prehuman prior to some event 40-50k years ago. This locates the transition to close to us spreading from Africa or the Near East. But people descended from populations that stayed within Africa are no less cognitively and culturally capable.

@waltonsmith7210

Жыл бұрын

I find it hard to believe that early anatomically modern humans were less intelligent than we are. I think maybe there were just less of them, or what art they produced hasn't survived or been found yet.

@AmandaHugandKiss411

8 ай бұрын

​@@mrpocockI agree with you.

Awesome topic and video. Thanks for teaching us. When is the earliest evidence for human burial rituals? I’m fascinated by the anthropology of human spirituality. I always kind of assumed that death rituals were taking place before modern humans even existed, that it was something we inherited from our other hominid ancestors. I thought that because you see death rituals in other animals like apes, monkeys, elephants and some birds. Are you saying there is no archeological evidence for burials in modern humans until around 100,000 years ago?

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

That is a great question, and one that I am planning to make a video to answer. There is certainly some ambiguity in some of the evidence we have right now, and I can talk about that in the video. For example do you know that rodents tend to burrow towards graves, and bring with them artefacts that can distort our dating of the body. And this is a problem with some of the earliest human burials in the Middle East… pesky gerbils! :)

@nu-nisamiracle2401

2 жыл бұрын

125k-115k years old brial in syria, cntaining a skleton of a young man, and an antler. The oldest prper human brial known by arceologist. Was named the grve of abel by the local. Maybe coz it's old. Lol.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

​@@nu-nisamiracle2401 I am not aware of this, I was of the belief that the oldest "homo sapien" burial was 73kyo in Kenya, but I there is not always universal acceptance of these things.

@nu-nisamiracle2401

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford Yeah, i don't know why it's not emphsized by majority of arceologist. Those who study it cnfirm that it was a brial of a very early h.s-spiens, if not one of the first. Maybe coz a religious trminology was atached to it. Lol.

V chill video to relax to my man.

👍👍good job in explaining man's history!

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Just gonna play the devils advocate. How do we know it’s a lion/human and not a human wearing a lion mask?

Would you consider making a video about the Celts and their possible connection to the Danube River? I don’t know of any genetic evidence, but I have heard that the Irish Tuatha De Danann means “Children of Danu” and that Danu could be a personification of the Danube River? Also the Welsh, “Don”. I have seen pictures of Neolithic round houses from where the Danube delta meets the Black Sea. And the proto Celtic Hallstatt culture is not on the River but still nearby. It makes sense that they would have left the Steppes / Black Sea region and traveled along the Danube River to get to Hallstatt. And that’s why the River became an important goddess to them. But the lack of genetic evidence makes it confusing to me. Do you have any thoughts on this topic?

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would, that is such an interesting topic, but also a huge and complex one. I will get there Ryan, there is just so much that I would like to teach people about, but I make sure it is on my list of videos to make :)

@parasharam79

Жыл бұрын

Israelite tribe of Dan were seafarers and after the 12 tribes left Egypt with Moses the tribe of Dan who were expert goldsmiths and seafarers went there own way, evidence of those has been found in Greece where a large cash of Egyptian gold arrived at that time, some link the tribe of Dan with the Phoenicians who had similarities and whose ships were almost identical with Viking ships. As the Danites travelled through the steppes and Europe they left their tribal name wherever they went as evidenced by the Danube etc

Great video!

@Crecganford

7 ай бұрын

Thank you.

Great video 👍

Narasimhan or thr lion man is a form of god still worshipped in India today. As an avatar of Vishnu the supreme lord this form of god potrays Omnipresent nature of god.

@JC-ts5ii

5 ай бұрын

I don’t know much about Hinduism but could you explain to me the difference between Vishnu and Narasimham or if not differences then how they relate

@FinestaGang

5 ай бұрын

@@JC-ts5ii God's can come to the physical relm in a form of their choosing. Vishnu has 10 such avatars.

All the furry porn nowadays is really gonna confuse archaeologists 40,000 years in the future.

This is fascinating!

Wow would love that iconic artifact (obviously as a replika) if you know where to get one,would be much appreciated 👍 Great channel.

Does that lion man statue have anything to do with Lord Narasimha? Does europeans have an equivalent God of Lord Narayan (Vishnu)?

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

The statuette was made many thousands of years before Narayan or Narasimha, and so the only connection is of how humans perceive lions.

@doriel668

2 жыл бұрын

It's Vishnu in the Narasimha form. Kamalopama Narayani Saktisiva Devi brahmani Vaishnavi Siddha yogini

It seems unlikely that such evolution happened that late as you'd then have to explain the spread of such modes of thought back into Africa and into parts like Australia that were otherwise fairly isolated after the early migration there. It seems more likely that this is simply the first preserved example of such cultural expressions that we have.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

And that is a reasonable thought, but throughout the whole world nothing else was preserved expect here seems unlikely? But we will never know for sure, although there is also the DNA evidence referenced in the papers in the notes to help strengthen the view.

@faarsight

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford Well, it's not so strange if you consider that most such expressions would have been made in highly perishable materials that rarely preserve.

@ikengaspirit3063

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford But remember that this is made of Ivory, something that is pretty good as preserving as its basically bone. As you said, stone would have been too hard for this so most places would use some soft wood which would obviously decay in the same conditions as the Ivory.

That display shelf is a great idea. I think I'll do one too. Do you sell the votives deities on your website? I need art for my main room.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

So on the right hand side, those Venuses are museum regrade replicas and I get them from a man who I mention in the description of this video. I think he sells some on eBay, so check check out Lion Man replica and he may come up. On the left hand side, they (apart from the Frank’s casket) are original items, found during archaeological digs, and so are not for sale. Sorry :(

The prehistoric times have fascinated me since I was very young. I found a book when I was about 11, Clan of the Cave Bear. Ive read it many times and recommend it to others with a love of prehistoric history and tales

@alisonmcclure2096

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonletzco1433 I love there series too!! I've read almost all of them and want to start the collection. My favorite is people of the lakes

I think they probably were carving humans, and animals statues before they decided to combine them. The carving seems to good to be a first one of it's kind and IMO shows practiced carving techniques. Also it would be funny if It was accidental and the carver forgot they were making a lion and gave it a human body by mistake.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Now what is strange, and I didn't mention it in this talk, is that there are very few carvings (or even paintings) found of the human form before the Venus figures which are a few thousand years after the Lion Man. It is odd that they carved animals, and then a hybrid, before carving a human. Now you maybe right and we just haven't found them yet, and so it is a tantalizing mystery as to why, and it probably has something to how humans thought of themselves back then, before they started to think "outside the box".

What do you think of the Neanderthal stone circle found in Bruniquel? It has been dated to 175,000 years ago. Religious focus? Team-building project?

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

Now that is fascinating, I was in awe when I first read about it. It helped establish that Neanderthals weren't "thuggish cavemen" and realised they had some cultural habits, although its purpose still is far from clear. It is on my list of things to make a video about (there's well over 100 items on that list though). Great question!

@Valdagast

2 жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford My money is on team-building exercise. They had a bad hunting season so they brought in an external consultant who had them build this thing to bring them all together. Remember, there is no "I" in Neanderthal.

@Crecganford

2 жыл бұрын

@@Valdagast Hahaha, if that was their first thought in a cognitive revolution... why don't we invent the hunting and gathering consultant :)

@briananderson2219

2 жыл бұрын

I have never heard of this. Looks like we need an episode on it🤔🧐

@nu-nisamiracle2401

2 жыл бұрын

More like anmal scrificial altar.

More please!

Interesting content. subbed.

@Crecganford

6 ай бұрын

Thank you.

2 things i think youve missed or overlooked, though i am drunk asi write this XD lionman was clearly not a first attempt. Great skill must have been gained to produce such a wonderful piece of art and the time given to an individual to explore such talent away from survival means that the tribe this artist belonged to was highly successful. that there was specialisation occuring to 'waste' time in atistic endeavours albeit probally with highly significant 'religious' belief purposes. Even nowadays children are discouraged from pursuing artistic talents even in G7 countries 2, even animals are aware of themselves as individuals, so i believe your idea that this is when we first called each other by name is erroneous. Lionman shows more advancement imo than you seem to be proposing imo, i believe there were centauries previously (totally hypothetical here) of wood carvings that have not survived. wood and leather were the 1st technologies we mastered way before the Palaeolithic 'stoneage' chacterised by stone tools. i looked into buying replicas BTW n most of the ones i want are beyond my price range 😢 esp Lionman, one of my top faves BTW the female figurine witht he 'spiky hair' how is she recognised? i didnt see her on etsy etc n never before i seen her on your shelf

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Some of the figures are original, such as spiky hair person who is from the time and place the Rig Veda was written, and I have a friend who makes casts of museum pieces. And so I am very lucky to be able to get hold of them occasionally. Thank you for watching, and taking the time to comment. Drink some tea if you're feeling a little hungover :)

Hallucinogens by shamans could have inspired these prehistoric sculptures and paintings of animal-headed human bodies, found in caves and on rocks around the world. Supernatural, a book by Graham Hancock, whose works often get attacked as "fringe" or "pseudoscience", explores this topic in great detail and i highly recommend it.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

I must admit, I'm not a big fan of Hancock, any good work he does is off-set by some left field commentary, but on this subject the "Immortality Key" was more up my street. I would recommend that, or the Sacred Mushroom, although the science behind that, based on an etymological link, is quite weak.

@deewesthill1213

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford Are you referring to The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross by John M. Allegro? That book, the object of relentless critical attacks and efforts to destroy library copies of it, analyzes words in Sumerian, Babylonian, Greek and Latin that may allude to hallucinogenic fungi. That book is hard to find in any library or bookstore. Although The Immortality Key sounds familiar, I'm not sure if I've read it yet.

Hope my question is not off point but I love the replica neolithic sculptures you have on the shelf behind you. Is there an option to purchase these off your site if not could you kindly provide links to where I could obtain these?

@Crecganford

Ай бұрын

Some of these are real, and some are replicas. The replicas can normally be purchased from national museums, this is where I get mine, from various countries across Europe. But if you cannot find what you want then it may be worth checking our Etsy or ebay.

Representation of constellational facets. Our understanding of The Unknown has been given as we can understand it. Good Presentation 😇😎😇

One simple thing it could be is a toy. We tend to think everything we find has some deep meaning and that may not necessarily be true. These people are our ancestors and thought the same way we do. Sometimes we just don't give them enough credit. Love you channel btw.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I agree in principal, but in practice this is a hefty bit of bone and could easily knock a child out... and so from that point of view I think it is unlikely to be a toy.

@freyasdottirx5894

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford when you said that about it knocking a child out, I thought of Erik the red as a kid putting an ax in another kids head.🤣

The lion man is called Narasimha in India, an incarnation of the god Vishnu who incarnated in that form to protect his devotee Prahlada from his demoniac father King Hiranyakashipu. The story is not lost. Hindus in India still worship and make these idols which were supposed to be real history. The gods and goddesses are extraterrestrials that enter the third dimension. Europeans have forgotten the Vedas and Purana history. It is all in India, all the books. The culture is Vedic. Kamalopama Narayani Saktisiva Devi brahmani Vaishnavi Siddha yogini

Even today, nature is just so majestic, it's hard not to imagine there's possibly something grander and higher than our existence. These are my thoughts as an agnostic even when admiring the mountains along some scenic route. So, just imagine the emotions coming from the people of that time seeing a volcano eruption, a tornado, or even the elegance and might of a lion. A being that is both feared and respected. A beast, yet also a creature that leaves you in awe and has an almost otherworldly spirit.

☄️Very interesting!! So much love & Gratitude. 🦁🌟🐈‍⬛🌠

Hello. I love the topics but so far 2 out of 2 of your videos have had recording volume that is too low to hear. I have a hearing disability but most KZread content is loud enough. Thanks

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Ok, I do have captions that I manually type so they are accurate. And hopefully newer videos have far better audio.

Great video's, im finding them interesting. Just wondering where you get those ancient figurines from ? I assume they are not originals.

@Crecganford

6 ай бұрын

Most are replicas, a few are originals. I have friends who work in museums who are able to source them occasionally, and I can mention more about sourcing them when I do a library tour video in a few weeks if that helps?

@MadAFDuck

6 ай бұрын

For sure, thanks for the info. I look forward to that episode@@Crecganford

Jon, from which website do you order these beautiful replica’s of deity statuettes?

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

I have a man who works at a museum, although he does sometimes put things on ebay. Some of the items are original, but the Venuses aren't, nor the Lion Man... try the ID biologus on ebay, he is Czech, and doesn't speak English very well, but he is a lovely man who works very hard.

Excelent AND inspirating video......clear.....thanck you Jon!!!🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

“Take the lion’s crown” gave me goosebumps. Wow.

Thank you very much!

... as German Biologist - I am 100 km from this site - and I wonder- was this Art traveling from Northern Africa with Migrants 40 000 years ago - bringing with them even more of their origins, cults and traditions?Makes it even more intriguing for me...

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if the archaeological record supports that view, due to a lack of finds in North Africa. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it is just difficult to establish evidence to support this idea.

@raginald7mars408

Жыл бұрын

@Crecganford all those wonderful stunning amazing finds happened by sheer chance and accident. As Göbekli seems to show there may have been deliberate hiding, burial as a precaution from destruction. We can be optimistic to find MUCH more when we look more carefully. Human History is much more intriguing and fascinating! It should not be the monopole of the Han Cocks... Cro Magnon is supposed to be a sort of Nietzsche Übermensch ...

Hi John, from where did you purchase your replica figurines?

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

The replicas are from a friend who works in a museum in Europe, the originals I purchased from dealers. I do believe that there is a chap (biolugus I think?) on ebay who I have heard is reputable, and provides similar models.

@babylonsburning1

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford Cheers, I'll check him out.

Great videos, very informative. The tools are also important, masonry is the art of construction which links man to geometry.

This is an absolutely real being I have seen with my own eyes after I said a prayer.. I love your show great work. It's a shame we have been pulled so far away from our past without holding on to its truth.

The Palaeolithic is fascinating, I'd love to see something on the development of musical instruments and songs.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, and yes, that is something I am working on, although I'm unsure when I will finish the research, but it'll be a few months away.

Dude. Where did you get your replicas on the shelf behind you sir? I've always wanted a Venus figurine etc for an ancestors altar so I would greatly appreciate your response. Thanks for your intelligence and the service you provide our folks.

@Crecganford

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching the video, and as for the replicas. I have a friend who works in a museum who takes casts, but there is someone I know who sells similar casts on eBay, I think his ID is Biologus, and I know a couple of people who have purchased from him without issue.

@BaltimoresBerzerker

Жыл бұрын

@@Crecganford how fortunate! What a great friend! Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have to check that guys work out. I've been trying to get my 3-D printing friend to start doing them for sale. Fingers crossed! Have a great day, I'll be seeing you in the comments section sir.