The Connecticut Pattern: What’s its Purpose & Why it Sucks

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In this video, I restore and old True Temper Kelly Works Connecticut pattern and hang it in a 30” Killinger handle. In order to test this axe, I do some light limbing, bucking and splitting. Interspersed through out is so theory on the development of the pattern and its uses.

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  • @KillingerUSA
    @KillingerUSA3 жыл бұрын

    I remember my first time! Haha! Great discussion! I believe you got the 32" tall eye, which is ment for exactly what you used it for. Taller eyes and the ability to get it to that 30" mark. In fact, the original handle came off a kelly Connecticut, seen restored in one of my videos splitting wood. Side note, I do not pretend the connie is a great splitter. Cause it's not. Still fun to swing! I'm going to say it because no one else will. I like the Connecticut because of how it looks. It's that simple. It just looks absolutely classic! I'm definitely guilty of not doing research or field research. I'm simply just busy with a lot of things and unfortunately playing with axes is at the very bottom. I do hope some day to do what your doing, but in the mean time. I'm going to enjoy your experience!

  • @IndianaDoug

    @IndianaDoug

    3 жыл бұрын

    This 100%☝🏻

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    The handle looks great on it! And I see nothing wrong with liking it because of how it looks. I’m attracted to it for the same reason. It looks fantastic! And I suspect it’ll find it’s place in my rotation as a felling-limbing tool. If you get any spare time, consider trying the one tree challenge. Doesn’t have to be big. But in any case, thanks for producing good handles and watching my videos. Your ha does make hanging an axe so much more fun because I don’t have to thin them down. Thanks

  • @bobbarker5884

    @bobbarker5884

    5 ай бұрын

    Your both huge influences to this community. Thank you both for sharing intelligent content!

  • @jamesmiddleton6464
    @jamesmiddleton64643 жыл бұрын

    I have to say these big felling axes were optimized for cutting big chips in green wood. They will do the job but this seasoned oak illustrates what they are best at and not. I think its part of why people keep wanting to modify the cheeks on old axes and hope it will help buck seasoned firewood. People switched to buck saws for bucking and other cross cutting a soon as they could for good reason. Axes are the champ cutting along the grain and at angles but no fun for bucking. This also illustrates why timber sports have limits when applied to timber work. Connecticut and Tasamanian top flair just isn't an issue for felling which is what they were designed to do. Your point (and Mr. Scott's) is well taken that the design optimization is only at the edges of performance not in the main but if you are doing the same job every day for years those marginal differences add up. The Dayton is an excellent all around pattern and that makes it a good base from which to develop specialized patterns that can still do other work when necessary. The problems you are having with bucking and splitting are to be expected fromna specialized felling design.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I pretty much agree. I’m sure it will fell just fine. But all axes need ground to chop. But yes, this is definitely a specialized pattern, not a general one.

  • @KevinsDisobedience
    @KevinsDisobedience3 жыл бұрын

    It might not chop great (and the jury is still out on that), but there’s no denying it’s an aesthetically pleasing pattern. Not quite sure what it is that makes it so alluring, but if you’d like to see more videos like this please like & subscribe and hit the bell notification. I upload weekly. Thanks for watching.

  • @casterman2
    @casterman23 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff! Funny how 2 or 3 degrees on a grind can make an impact. Killinger is like air, he’s everywhere.😊

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is surprising how much difference it makes, but it does. Also I had to big a secondary bevel on it.

  • @bobgox
    @bobgox3 жыл бұрын

    that is one beautiful Axe, thank you for sharing this detailed overview, enjoyed learning from someone who obviously knows his stuff, much appreciated !

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is gorgeous. I’m glad you enjoyed it. I’m just sharing my experience, not really trying to teach. Take away what you will. Me and a few others are just trying to rediscover some of the lost knowledge concerning these tools.

  • @bobgox

    @bobgox

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience > understood, yes i actually enjoy hearing about how these various axes were used way back when, and the significance of their varying shapes and sizes. thanks again !

  • @NewMoonTelescopes
    @NewMoonTelescopes6 ай бұрын

    Getting into axes myself, and I've hung probably 30-40 so far. I notice so many people machining exaggerated curves with laminated palm swells...always very pretty. What I like about this hang (and what I try to mimick) is that you were cognizant of following the grain from the eye to the knob. Generally it results in a smaller sweep from shoulder to belly, but certainly works out to being a stronger axe handle. Well done!

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah, most people who are hanging axes are never going to use them. You can tell right away that they don’t use them if they have that huge stupid shoulder and a big sweeping palms swell. Nobody would swing that long if they used it.

  • @elemental4rce
    @elemental4rce Жыл бұрын

    rewatching a load of your old videos. Nostalgia!

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    Hay, thanks. Always fun. I do the same with yours.

  • @MichelleMakesStuff
    @MichelleMakesStuff3 жыл бұрын

    Very good editing on this one. I’m sure you’ve been told a million times already, but please rest your elbows when you can! I went 2 years with a very painful right arm/wrist (tennis or golfer’s elbow?). It’s mostly gone now but acts up when I use a computer mouse, carve, or use axes for too long. I find taking stretching breaks during these activities helps

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Michelle. I know I know, this was stupid. I just missed swinging an axe. That this could be permanent scares me. I’m still working as if it wasn’t there because I don’t have much of a choice. Hope to see another vid from you soon. Thanks

  • @MatthewAmsbaugh
    @MatthewAmsbaugh2 жыл бұрын

    Love these videos sir. Love the honesty and no BS reviews you give. I definitely agree that the Dayton is the best all around pattern for an axe. The wide Dayton specifically is my go to axe for all kinds of work. I’ll admit I don’t have near as much experience when it comes to chopping as I’d like but I’m currently in the process of testing different grinds/patterns to find out which is the best for me. I’ve had many connies in my time and agree that most are worthless for splitting. I do however have one unmarked 3lb Connie with particularly fat cheeks that has been a really good axe. Splits and bucks well for its size, but it is not typical for its pattern.

  • @Slick519
    @Slick519 Жыл бұрын

    i have several connies and they are all fantastic choppers. I use mine for wilderness trail clearing and they are my go-to axe and have been long before this whole connecticut craze took over. They are great for bucking as they have a nice wide bit and the profile is great for sinking deep, not sticking, and breaking chips with its high, far back centerline. the poll isnt too fat (like a jersey) so it doesnt hit the edge of your scarf on a big log and cause your bit to dive. i think your results are a lot different than mine because your connecticut pattern looks to be filed back quite a bit (ie, not much life left in it), which would necessitate that you thin out your cheeks quite a bit before the axe would really bite and sink. all of my axes have a longer and thinner bit, including my identical true temper kelly works flint edge axe.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you like them. I’ve used many, many different patterns to do a lot of chopping at this point-cords of wood, and, I’ve used three different Connie’s now (two of them mine). I like them okay for felling and limbing. But for my money, a common Dayton or, for Bucking and Splitting, a Tassie would be my first choice. But boy are these fun to swing. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I’m always learning and altering my opinions, thanks.

  • @benscottwoodchopper
    @benscottwoodchopper3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, couldn't agree more on what was said

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even with the quote from that cantankerous old English man?

  • @jaskiniamestwa
    @jaskiniamestwa Жыл бұрын

    Damn, those precise shots! nice ones!:)

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks man

  • @johnhudson6469
    @johnhudson64693 жыл бұрын

    My right arm is practically useless right now because of tennis elbow! Take care! My doc actually put me in a wrist brace and it helped immensely! First video I’ve watched of yours very fun and informative. Subbed!

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, and I’m sorry to hear about your arm. I can sympathize. It sucks. Never imagined it could be this bad. And thanks for the sub, means a lot to us small timers. Feel free to check out some old stuff, but I do try and post regularly about once a week.

  • @johnhudson6469

    @johnhudson6469

    3 жыл бұрын

    I definitely understand what new subs are worth! They don’t grow on trees now do they 🪓😜💪

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah people are stingy with subs and likes. It’s the first thing I do when I watch a video and enjoy it. Costs me nothing. Thanks by the way.

  • @ryanb1314
    @ryanb13142 жыл бұрын

    I’ve come to come clean with you. When I envision and axe. It’s the Connecticut pattern. And because of that I also love the looks of a Jersey and Tassie. That being said I do find other axes more functional for lots of tasks I think the Scandinavian forest axe or the likes being my general purpose axe to tote around. I still love my wide bit axes. Also your filing job on those looks perfect. I try so hard to have mine look like that they never do.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a very pretty axe! I think a Tassie will work better in my woods though. This axe performed much better on Red Oak. Your filing will improve with time.

  • @Megastring
    @Megastring Жыл бұрын

    I follow the edge radius when I sharpen my Connie and it cuts great (3-1/2 pound at 23-degrees). It holds the edge for a long time. The entire edge is roughly 1/2" wide from heel to toe. Competition edge and geometry are a whole different story for the younger folks that race (like your associate Ben, who has my admiration and quite the axe collection) and the wood being cut is a consideration. For splitting I use a heavier Dayton at 4-pound and a 5-pound when I am feeling ambitious. Axes and their fine tuning are per application and how one develops their swing is a consideration. The patters are what they are - a user preference. Any axe is better than no axe.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    Any axe is better than no axe. Well said

  • @axemonkey
    @axemonkey Жыл бұрын

    I agree with you on that really nice conny.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a beauty!

  • @skaagkaal2613
    @skaagkaal26133 жыл бұрын

    Dude I winced for your elbows hearing those swings hit all those dry dead limbs. You could hear that loud thud echo down through the woods. Man though, that hang and edge look sharp like a tailored suit. I like how you left the patina on the head and didn't do like what most people seem to. Dunking that sucker in vinegar, or goddamn, running a freaking grinding wheel to the thing trying to make it all shiny. Props man, be safe and get better, you know best. Later.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that was the hardest wood I’ve ever chopped. I shouldn’t be chopping. I just really miss it. The edge is pretty keen now. And yeah, I like experimenting with axe builds, but this one (as most of my axes) are just to nice as they are to clean up. But sometimes it’s fun to do something different. Anyway, thanks for commenting. You know I appreciate it.

  • @uncletony3674
    @uncletony36743 жыл бұрын

    True it does buck, but I mainly use mine for limbing. I don’t know if it was made for bucking.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah seems like a dedicated feller-limber.

  • @Fogyt121
    @Fogyt1213 жыл бұрын

    OMG, THIS KID DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT!!!1! :^) I really love the shape of the Connecticut! And I agree with the toe digging into the dirt thing. I got my China head and I trimmed a centimeter off the edge on both the toe and the heel, just to keep it from bashing into rocks, but also preserving the edge curve. It made it look even more like your Connie! About the bevels-on the relatively fresh oak logs I've cut so far, a flat secondary bevel is quite jarring and sticky. As soon as I blended the transition between the flat cheeks and the bevel, chopping became a walk in the park. It's on a 30inch ash handle, if that's important. About your elbow issue-you may try gaining a few pounds of bodyweight, the extra resources might help fix damaged tissues faster.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s funny you say that, as I just wondered out-loud if it would be a crime to shave off the toe of the Tui Camp Axe. Lol. Aesthetically, the Connie is gorgeous! But I was under-whelmed as a user.

  • @theodorewood5083
    @theodorewood50832 жыл бұрын

    Its a hardwood felling pattern. Optimized for felling and bucking green New England hardwood. Thinner is hardwood, thicker is soft wood as a general rule. I have found the Maine wedge and the Taz patterns tend to work well on pretty much anything.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a rule, that’s my experience too. This axe did better in red oak.

  • @emericanchaos
    @emericanchaos Жыл бұрын

    You should have researched this. The Connecticut pattern is one of the oldest and predates the Jersey, PA, Michigan, Dayton, etc by at least 30 years. In truth most patterns are copies/modifications on the original Collins axe out of Connecticut. If you wanted to throw shade that would have been the angle. The patterns that came after were made to address the needs of the workers in the area and the wood's they encountered. Having a big chunky axe for soft pines you find through Michigan wouldn't be the best move. A slimmer grind with some bite would cut faster ,wouldn't need to be as heavy, and would save time and energy. This is especially true for Tazzy and AUS axes. Australians came to the US and sat with Plumb, of Philadelphia, to design an axe pattern for the big hard gum trees they had. This happened in the early 20th century, 1920's-1930's. A very clear example of the evolution of the axe being based on worker's needs and the environment they were in.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @antitactical
    @antitactical3 жыл бұрын

    I dont have any connies but I've got a bunch of jerseys and a heavily thinned cheeks Arvika 5 star. You are 100% correct that a connie and tassie are the same just connies are 3-3.5lbs and tassies are heavier. They really get limbing and felling duties for me. I split alot of wood with a kentucky pattern Belknap bluegrass that is super thick. I was kind of let down because the bluegrass axe was so thick (ebay). A kentucky is a Dayton/jersey hybrid deal. Like a longer bit jersey without the flair upward on the bit but does flair downward. I'm kind of glad to hear someone call out the mighty Connie.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was easy for me to say that because I didn’t even know axe forums existed until a few months ago when I was told about Axe Junkies, so I wasn’t fed the same story as a lot of guys interested in axes. I asked why we don’t call a 2.5 Dayton something different than a 4lb Dayton on one of the popular forums, and people said I was stupid (in much stronger words). Then I asked, walking them into it, why do we call the Connie something different when it gains a pound? They called me even stupider names. Lol. I still suspect I’m going to like this axe for felling larger trees. Oh and the Rockaway is just a Jersey with rounded lugs.

  • @kurts64
    @kurts643 жыл бұрын

    Good honest vid mate. Shame the Connie hasn't quite lived up to the hype yet. My experience with axe patterns down here in Aus, is basically tassies, daytons, and maybe a Rhineland hatchet thrown in. It's good to see some actual criticism of a pattern so sought after. Also, on handles.. never heard anyone else mention an asymmetrical palm swell. Been doing this a few years on axes and occasionally on custom knives (I call it a bias handle) It's a fiddly little detail but can add to the final product. Hope those arms heal up soon

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kurt. I suspect the Tassie would buck and split a lot better with the extra meat behind the bevel. I’m not out to cause controversy, but I will continue to call them as I see them. I’ve never seen an asymmetrical swell either, just seemed like a good idea and a neat experiment nonetheless. Thanks as always for taking the time to comment.

  • @kurts64

    @kurts64

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I don't disagree with the Dayton comment at all. I think it's actually quite telling that it's remained, as u said, ubiquitous as the all rounder when many others have faded away as needs become less specialised. I've seen those pics of all the fancy american patterns and wondered why we don't have that many here. Answer- not needed. Our logging species are generally very widespread and by the time the crosscut saw came about, axe choice had been refined down to what really worked. At the end of the day they're all just a delivery system for the edge.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    You got it. Tassies worked in your wood, so why modify when it’s working just fine. I think a lot of the small changes in American patterns was just marketing wank. Axe companies just wanted to sell more axes, and at the turn of the century through the 50s there were a lot of competition.

  • @bobbarker5884
    @bobbarker58845 ай бұрын

    I think I know from watching some of your other videos, and you sort of eluded to it in this video, but what is your favorite chopper/ bucker design? And then what's your absolute favorite model of bucker ever?

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    5 ай бұрын

    Depends on the size of the wood. Small wood, thin to win. Montreal is nice. Kent felling patterns are great. Dayton always good. On big wood, nothing beats a Tassie.

  • @FortyTwoBlades
    @FortyTwoBlades3 жыл бұрын

    If your axe is sticking, swing lighter. Match the force to whatever level you can use without it binding the bit.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. And thanks for taking the time to comment. It means a lot to me.

  • @cosmicbilly
    @cosmicbilly3 жыл бұрын

    I agree, the handle makes the axe for me. If the handle ain't right for me, i dont like using it. If the handle is comfortable and tuned up, it makes a night and day difference in enjoyment and performance. My favorite axe is my HB Montreal. because i spent most of my time tuning the handle and it's the most comfortable axe i own, and also the one that i can get to perform the best. I credit some to the grind i gave it, the the handle is what makes it so nice to use.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely. That HB of yours is probably one of the best CordWood axes you could get, and you’re doing good work with it too. Keep it up, brother. It’s great to see your enthusiasm on the FB page! Thanks for commenting.

  • @hotspur4237
    @hotspur4237 Жыл бұрын

    I’m curious about axe patterns and their effectiveness. As I understand axe patterns and their names, they are based on geography. Meaning they are designed for the majority of trees in a particular location. And, given that axes are also particular to purpose. I’m not an axe man. I don’t cut for fuel or any other reason. I wanted an axe to keep in my truck in case I needed one. I wanted an axe that would be able to handle task that I may put to it. I purchased a Rinaldi Trento 1300 and put it on a 28” handle because the weight/ handle combination seemed to be the best for all around performance. I chose the pattern after watching videos of It and the similar Prandi design being used and it seemed to suit my purpose. (Ben Scott sold me on the pattern after watching use the 1500 to take apart several trees). I keep searching for and fail to find a video that explains how axe geometry/patterns work and why the designs are suited for particular regions. My curiosity extends to why a particular pattern wasn’t developed for the Southwest where I live. Even though your videos haven’t answered my questions. I have found them to be well made, entertaining, and thought provoking. I appreciate your efforts to provide good content.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I’m not really interested in the history of axe patterns, so I can’t really help you there.

  • @samzeng159
    @samzeng1592 жыл бұрын

    Thats a hard tree. We have a ton of well seasoned dead ash in Ontario and the sound of that oak reminded me of that.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    Green they are actually enjoyable to chop, but hard not fun at all lol.

  • @rogerrobinson4446
    @rogerrobinson44463 жыл бұрын

    I'm very fond of Daytons as well. Modern Daytons are just straight up wedges though, where the vintage ones have a high center line. The True Temper Kelly Woodslashers, with the silver eye ridge stickers, were the last of the good ones. Occasionally you can find a decent older Council Tool Dayton with good geometry (like yours 11:30 ). There must be a significant reduction in production cost to produce a wedge shaped axe over a beveled axe. Even Collins sometime around the 70's started making strictly wedge shaped axes.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hear you and you’re probably right, but I’m quite fond of a true wedge. Finally got my hands on a Maine wedge I’m eager to try, but can’t because of my arms. Anyway I’ll take your word for it that HCL are the best in big woods. I’m rarely cutting large stuff, so I don’t tend to notice too much. Sometimes I think an axe is sticky because it is on the first day out, and then on a different day in different wood it isn’t. So hard to know at this point in my experience. But in theory HCL make sense, and that fact that older axes have them and newer ones don’t (when people stopped using them) pretty much tells the story. Thanks

  • @hans-karlfrautschi4434
    @hans-karlfrautschi44343 жыл бұрын

    I always enjoy these videos. Informational and objective. If I ever make an axe I hope you review it so I can get some genuine feedback. Appreciate your videos my guy

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words. I always do my best to speak from experience

  • @cosmicbilly
    @cosmicbilly3 жыл бұрын

    Haha does a Dayton count as a conny? I just reprofiled my council SU boys axe and gave it an amazing edge that it's never seen before. It's actually crazy how much it changed its performance in chopping.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah because the Connie came first and it’s actually a different pattern from the top view. Longer and after. I was surprised at how squat the Connie is. Yep, it’s all about acute angles with meat behind it to blow the chips apart, who would have thought.

  • @baitammo4652
    @baitammo46523 жыл бұрын

    I have a 3lb Kelly Connie like yours and I just picked up a 3lb Plumb Connie. The plumb pattern is thicker in the cheeks than the Kelly. Should spit out chips a bit better, in my opinion. Something you might keep an eye out for or when I get this one tuned up and hung, I'd be happy to send it to you to use for a while. For research purposes of coarse! It will be a good while befor I get to it. I'll see what your thoughts are when I get it put together.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s very kind of you. A little thicker in the cheeks would definitely help. Let me know what you think of it when you get to it. Believe me I’ve got a heads I keep meaning to hang and haven’t lol.

  • @gabrielsturdevant9700
    @gabrielsturdevant9700 Жыл бұрын

    I cant agree that the dayton came first, I've looked up and down and i see both the dayton and jersey's predecessors coming from roughly the same time. I would say its fair to say both styles evolved from two styles of ax, one like a Stohler axe, and another blocky wedge head and they were adapted from there

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s fair. I’m really not the guy to speak on axe history. I’ve not read up on it like that. I was just making an assumption, but first assumptions are often wrong. This axe is a good falling/limbing axe.

  • @gabrielsturdevant9700

    @gabrielsturdevant9700

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience i never really liked daytons too much but im glad you can find so much in them. Speaking of which, ive got a 4# us army collins ive been looking to get rid of if youre up for it.

  • @seff2318
    @seff23183 жыл бұрын

    I think you need a tuatahi camp axe :) I’ve always favored my wedgier axes. It gives them a slight edge towards chopping but you lose a little slicing ability. This was very informative for me because I was fawning over connecticut patterns for a while. I’ll definitely take it off your hands tho :P gimme

  • @the_sharp_carpenter

    @the_sharp_carpenter

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fawntastic, thin Bois.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    I actually asked Ben if it would be a crime to buy a Tui camp axe and shave off the toe lol. I might do it actually. Waiting to see Ben use it in a woodland situation. The Connie is still a cool looking axe. But I’d go with a Dayton or even a Jersey as you can pick them up a lot cheaper.

  • @beavercreekwoodcraft8134
    @beavercreekwoodcraft81343 жыл бұрын

    Seasoned oak is a big ole nope for me😆 even the green white Oak is some tough stuff to cut. Thankfully its mostly maple and ash around me. As far as the carpenter's elbow, grunt candy for breakfast and some beers for dinner😉 it sucks and its why I switched to a wood handled Vaughn over my old steel Estwing about 4 years ago, its definitely taken some of the strain off swinging the "Man Hammer"

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Red and white oak are pretty tough regardless, yes, but I’ve never encounter wood that hard before. I was so surprised. And who do you work for that you’re still swinging a hammer? Lol. I haven’t swung a hammer in years, except maybe to tap something in place. But yeah, I’ve switched to a wooden a handle a while back too. What do you do for a living?

  • @breadbaconcheese
    @breadbaconcheese2 жыл бұрын

    so funny when the narrator contradicts the in-video comments hahaha love it

  • @Joey-L
    @Joey-L3 жыл бұрын

    Damn i really wanted you to love the Connie. I have a few myself and I mostly use them for bucking. None of mine have a sub 20degree grind so that may account for them being less sticky than yours seems to be. I also try and match the axe to the size wood I'm chopping. Small diameter logs get smaller bit axes. Seems to help avoid sticking the toe in the dirt like you mentioned. But great video overall. Also, I have a cordwood challenge submission i'd like to send you. Whats the best way besides Facebook ? (Which I don't have)

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to love it too. And I will eventually use it in bigger wood, but typically if it’s sticky in small wood it’ll be worse in big wood. And of course not all Connie’s are exactly the same. I’ve seen some even thinner than mine. But basically it was the relatively light weight in combination with the wide cutting edge.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh and you can email me: kkevech@gmail.com.

  • @Joey-L

    @Joey-L

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you....Done

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek64698 ай бұрын

    trust me: the maximum power attained is by keeping both hands together at the bottom of the handle, and swinging the largest arc possible. Next carnival, ring the bell, and try it both ways, , , watch the carni first, but really, give it a shot both ways. also, I think the whole concept of thin or scandi grind edge with a microbevel, then polishing it does two things, 1) wastes time, the edge won't stay sharp, and 2) a polished edge will stick EVERY stroke. thanks for the video

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    8 ай бұрын

    I agree. Did I talk about polishing the edge? That’s not something I’ve ever done.

  • @thomasgronek6469

    @thomasgronek6469

    8 ай бұрын

    I don't think you mentioned polishing, but I mention things that weren't mentioned all the time @@KevinsDisobedience

  • @cosmicbilly
    @cosmicbilly3 жыл бұрын

    How long is that handle? 32"?

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Started as 32”. Down to 30”. Longest I’d use. Actually prefer if it was a tad shorter.

  • @bigoldgrizzly
    @bigoldgrizzly3 жыл бұрын

    I reckon your elbows are crying out for rubber handles to reduce the shock - now that would be fun to watch ;

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Basically that’s what everyone’s been telling me is that I’ll always deal with it now. It’ll go away but get re-aggravated real easily. Take it easy, Griz.

  • @jeffreyrubish347
    @jeffreyrubish3473 жыл бұрын

    Asymmetric palm swell. I may have to try that. I've always wanted a Connecticut but the vintage ones are too expensive. Here's some more heresy for everyone: I think that the subtle variations in head shapes was mostly marketing. I doubt there was any significant performance difference between a Dayton vs a Delaware or a Kentucky vs a Baltimore Kentucky. And since most of what you find is used, the original edge geometry and profile isn't there anymore, anyway.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    First for me too. I just thought it’d be an interesting experiment. I mean the hand isn’t symmetrical. And I agree with you about it being marketing wank 100%.

  • @asarendars

    @asarendars

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was fortunate to pick up two beautiful Connies recently. A Kelly Flint Edge and a Collins Legitimus. They definitely went for a premium compared to other vintage axes, but less or right around what you would pay for a quality new axe. Certainly less than a German or Swedish axe. The key is not to be afraid of a little rust and chipping on the edge, some mushrooming on the poll or pitting. The rust, chips and slight mushrooming can all be easily removed, and the pitting adds character (within reason) but it all keeps the prices down some. Sometimes the perfect axe needs a little work to be perfect 😁

  • @IndianaDoug
    @IndianaDoug3 жыл бұрын

    Kevin!! Been watching your stuff and forgot to Sub😳 Done!

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey! I appreciate that immensely. Thanks for commenting. This is a beautiful axe. Hope you enjoyed the glory pics. I enjoy making them. Lol

  • @isaiahmountford5815
    @isaiahmountford58152 жыл бұрын

    Also, I have found that most tassies ive had have about half the poll that my connies and jerseys have.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    I gotta get a Tassie to compare. Thanks

  • @johngrossbohlin7582
    @johngrossbohlin75823 жыл бұрын

    Make sense to me... After 1.6 million years of axe evolution we shouldn't expect more than some minor tweaks of otherwise good designs.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the real weird stuff is in Europe where different techniques were developed due to different circumstances.

  • @lifebehindtheaxe3835
    @lifebehindtheaxe38353 жыл бұрын

    Let's see you standing on a thick yellow-poplar with this axe in the near future. I think you'll enjoy it. Definitely doesn't appear to be a do-it-all type axe like you demonstrated.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    The only poplar I’ve got on my property is Tulip Poplar, and I don’t really have a reason to cut softer woods when I’ve got stands of hardwoods. Also, anything big enough to stand on I’m going to save for the chainsaw. In the past, anything big enough to stand on would have mostly been bucked with the crosscut saw, as you probably already know. I’m not really into Timber Sports. I’m just out having fun processing firewood, and unless I get some chain mail I won’t stand on a log and chop. I’ve got to much to loose if I can’t work. But it might be alright in soft wood, but honestly any other axe I have throws chips better.

  • @tobilogie1612
    @tobilogie16123 жыл бұрын

    Is there a name for the Fiskars "patterns"? I mean if everything has a different name...

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good question. From the side they are basically a Turpentine. But from above they are pretty much a wedge. Don’t know myself, but then I’m not the guy to ask about axe patterns. As you may have discerned from this vid, I think it’s mostly marketing wank.

  • @Mynameischef
    @Mynameischef3 жыл бұрын

    Tassie is a fantastic splitter on tasmanian wood funnily enough

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Chef! Haven’t seen you in the comments before. Welcome and hope to see you back for more. And yeah, the bigger thicker Tassie I got to imagine is better all around.

  • @Mynameischef

    @Mynameischef

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience yea, we swing pretty heavy as well, we have been using a trumpeter tassie i picked up for 5$ to split rounds

  • @jakehardin2323
    @jakehardin23233 жыл бұрын

    What’s a good file you recommend?

  • @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    3 жыл бұрын

    VALLORBE

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It depends. I’ve got a lot of files and intend on doing a video real soon. Vallorbe is okay, but not my best by a long shot. Again depends on what you want it for. For me, the only thing I really want in an axe file is for it to remove metal fast, not clog and not wear out too fast. The best I’ve found are red tipped Simons. They make a new relatively cheap one on Amazon, which is great, but if you can get new old stock you’re golden for years to come. Length matters too. Don’t get anything under 8”. I find 8-10” best.

  • @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    @crackers_are_great_with_am9572

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I'll have to try some red tipped Simmons. Other than bacho vallorbe seem to be the most available in the UK

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    For removing materials fast, they’re the best I’ve come across. Vallorbe makes great smooth cut files.

  • @jakehardin2323

    @jakehardin2323

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I’ve found some simonds on eBay. What types of files should I get?

  • @bzinkman
    @bzinkman2 жыл бұрын

    If it was a Dayton…it would be called a Dayton. It’s not. It’s a Connie.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    Fair enough…

  • @brianmoran4060
    @brianmoran40603 жыл бұрын

    I do not own a tassie but god id kill for one. Hurt to hear they probably suck but honestly that pattern is like the mona lisa of axes IMO

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was surprised out how bad it was, but gotta run it some more before I say it sucks. A Tassie would probably be a bit better since it carries more meat behind the edge.

  • @timwatsonphotography
    @timwatsonphotography3 жыл бұрын

    Do rest that tennis elbow. I’ve had it for the last 15 months because I didn’t rest it. It’s not something you can just work through. Turmeric tablets have helped the most for mine but it’s always there in the background, waiting to flare up again.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m learning that fast. Problem is I don’t have the luxury of taking a month of from work.

  • @Fogyt121

    @Fogyt121

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my anecdotal experience, tendon inflammations can't be healed with rest, you have to inflame the fuck out of it to make it go away. I had a case of golfer's elbow, which is inflammation of the forearm flexor tendon origin. Hurt for 2 weeks, then I had enough and worked the crap out of those muscles for a few days and it went away. If you wait for such an injury to heal on its own, it never will, the body is lazy, you have to force it to do such things.

  • @timwatsonphotography

    @timwatsonphotography

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience but you do have the luxury of not swinging heavy axes for fun - tempting as I know that is.

  • @feralgrandad4429
    @feralgrandad4429 Жыл бұрын

    Wow at 12.30 that thing bits like the illegitimate child of a shark and a pit bull! As to the rest, I'm still to much of a newbee to comment 😁

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a fun axe to use. And pretty good in certain woods.

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek64698 ай бұрын

    I agree, Connecticut, Jersey, etc, , , to some it doesn't matter, , , ,according to my father most people (and it's true BTW), don't know their axe from a hole in the ground, , , they don't know a lot about shinola either

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    8 ай бұрын

    Unless it’s a Tassie, or a hcl Dayton, it doesn’t really matter. Small wood. Thin to win. Big wood, fat and wedgy.

  • @bombsawaylemay770
    @bombsawaylemay770Ай бұрын

    How much do you want for that Connie? 😁

  • @Lilman3000
    @Lilman30003 жыл бұрын

    my old connies are more thin all the wY through.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Owen’s got one that thinner than mine as well. What do you think they excel at?

  • @MrDesmostylus
    @MrDesmostylus3 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t look that bad really. Wood seems pretty hard.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is, but I know how my other axes compare to it. I’m not saying it’s the worst axe ever, just not very good for the money.

  • @casterman2
    @casterman23 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is Gaga over Tassies. But I’m a Connie fan through and through. Beard malfunction 😆😆😆

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Connie’s are definitely one of, if not the most aesthetically pleasing American patterns. No argument from me on those grounds.

  • @casterman2

    @casterman2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I picked up about 4 Daytons last month. No names. Hung one the was the fattest and most wedge like. 3lbs 8 oz. it’s a little wood bomb.I’m tired of paying too much. Dayton’s may be the answer. Until they become the next greatest thing.

  • @casterman2

    @casterman2

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I also admit there aren’t many axes I don’t like.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, the prices on axes with any stamps on it is getting out of hand.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same, although there are a few European patterns I don’t like the look of at all.

  • @veshtitsaaudioworks8736
    @veshtitsaaudioworks87363 жыл бұрын

    You can be anywhere between 18 and 37

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I could pass for a high school student if I really tried. Lol. I’m 36.

  • @veshtitsaaudioworks8736

    @veshtitsaaudioworks8736

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience Legally i think it would be difficult. Ever think of just sitting with a google pic of 30 axe patterns and explaining them? Dig your stuff.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha. Maybe some day. I’ve only got about that many in total at the moment and I’m not that big on axe history, but maybe someday. And thank you plz like and subscribe. It means a lot to us little guys.

  • @robertgraves3215
    @robertgraves32153 жыл бұрын

    Red Oak is brutal . Keep that in perspective for everyone else out there. Fun Video though , and good body mechanics. Tip: neoprene elbow band supports with a chunk of ICE tucked right in against the tendon will heal anything. No you won't get frostbite. PT's do it. It's called "cryotherapy". Do it after dinner, hydrate , take aspirin . If you do it right you'll be pain free by morning. But even then, stretch, be careful . You are right, do something else. Study kinesiology. Avoid Ibuprofen. it will fuck up your kidneys. Eat some more organic collagen .

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hardest wood I’ve ever cut, hands down. I’ve actually been doing ice massages at night. Does always feel better, but by the end of the day it’s just as bad again. I wear bands at work and socks on my arms at night. I’ve just bought some massage thingy. Believe me I’m willing to try anything, but doc was insistent on rest, which I just don’t have the luxury of.

  • @robertgraves3215

    @robertgraves3215

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience I used to be an LMT , sports massage. Tendons heal slowly because they get less blood flow. Research "cross fiber deep tissue " . Also try plunging elbows into ICE WATER . Lie on back on couch , veg out , watch TV. Herbal/natural remedies: collagen (bone broth) Boneset tincture , increase magnesium . Hydrate . You're gonna be fine. Onward.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear some optimism. I just keep hearing “permanent injury”. I’ve been doing some ice massages and exercises in the evenings, but it gets reaggravated everyday. Hope you’re right. Thanks

  • @robertgraves3215

    @robertgraves3215

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience Try this : an Igloo "ICE Cube" cooler (15 bucks Wal Mart) is awesome because it's DEEP. fill it with ice water and plunge your entire forearm into it past the elbow, You must have a couch and HBO to do this. No, it's NOT permanent because they usually want to do surgery . (!!!???) Google "Brachioradialis" . Forearm tendon that goes from outside "Distal" elbow joint to wrist. If you blow this, you will scream. And be out of work. Back off in the Gymn on stuff like one armed bent rowing with freeweights , Throwing frisbees, axes, and pushing , pulling like with the sander at work . Also, try a shot-put sized PVC medicine ball from Dick's (3 lbs. ) and do weird rotations like madonna did in her "Vogue " video. You can do that right after being iced . Yes, it' s weird . You will freak out, Be prepared to hear some crackling and creaking. Afterwards , aspirin, water, wrap it up , and early BED. Make sure you get enough SLEEP . No alcohol or coffee for awhile

  • @robertgraves3215

    @robertgraves3215

    3 жыл бұрын

    Last Note ' google "antinflammatory foods" No sugar, white starches , alcohol, caffeine

  • @isaiahmountford5815
    @isaiahmountford58152 жыл бұрын

    I haven't had this experience with my big mann connie, but that has a completely different profile than this one. Its pretty thick in the cheeks in comparison to this one.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I imagine anything close to a Tassie will work much better.

  • @isaiahmountford5815

    @isaiahmountford5815

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinsDisobedience 100 percent, I also have a kelly flint edge connie that is almost flat in the profile and sticks hard. There might have been some variation in profile from make to make and such.

  • @JourneyNorthAK
    @JourneyNorthAK3 жыл бұрын

    Most the guys buying up Connie's are collectors and the axes they buy rarely touch wood anyhow. Lol

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I guess that’s how I was duped into thinking this was going to be great. People foam over them online. I’m not mad at collectors. Let the, collect. I just wish they wouldn’t pretend to know which axes were actually good choppers, and I wish they’d stop driving the price up by paying ludicrous sums of money for on old piece of metal.

  • @cosmicbilly
    @cosmicbilly3 жыл бұрын

    Tennis elbow sucks man. It stops you from not being able to do anything that you want to do... mine took me over 6 months to fully heal.. i got stubborn and too anxious and would work out and chop wood.. which made it take wayyy longer to heal.. tennis elbow sucks because rest is the best way to let it heal... and if you have a job it feels impossible. Just try to stop using axes completely and rest your arm completely on your days off. Get some resistance bands and do some physical therapy to help.

  • @KevinsDisobedience

    @KevinsDisobedience

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does. Never imagined it could be this painful. And yes, axes are going to have to be put on the shelf for awhile and that kills me. Thanks for the comments and kind words. Much appreciated!

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