The Christian Response to Pride Month - ft/Elizabeth Woning
The month of June is here and with it comes a lot of noise, thoughts, and opinions about Pride Month. As we tackle issues of sex and sexuality from a biblical perspective, so many people ask, "What should the Christian response to Pride Month actually look like?"
Some think we should boycott every store with a rainbow flag on display, others think we should just love and accept everyone, and some are wondering why we're even asking the question. So let's talk about it.
This week on the podcast, we're joined by Elizabeth Woning, a once-gay pastor, who went to seminary openly gay and then encountered God and left the lifestyle. She shares with us insights on the LGBTQ experience, how the LGBTQ community has changed through the years, and how we can love and hold a boundary.
We hope this episode brings clarity to a topic that can feel confusing or daunting.
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"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." Ephesians 6:12
@leshavchurch
12 күн бұрын
AMEN!!!! Satan would like the Body Of Christ to dilly-dally around with political double-talk to somehow sweet-talk demonic strongholds... Corinthians 2:12-14 "Now we have received, NOT the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."💪✝️👆🏿
@kathleenpett3194
9 күн бұрын
Right on
I'm calling it Humility Month. God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.
@johncollins8304
11 күн бұрын
SHAME MONTH.
@deidresowerby4687
11 күн бұрын
There is nothing Humble in these alphabet soup people prancing down the streets prideful in their queerness. It is PRIDE, as they themselves call it.
@reginaford8575
11 күн бұрын
Great idea
@TheNinjapancake14
10 күн бұрын
Good luck babe
“Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. “ Proverbs 16:18
@_munkykok_
13 күн бұрын
Yes, and we're already past that point.
@claudiatheobald9928
13 күн бұрын
I agree that pride goes before destruction, and I find it awkward that many christians don't have a problem with the term pride, when it is pride to be American or Canadian. Pride is a very bad attitude to have and I wouldn't use the word at all.
@cweditor
13 күн бұрын
We're not talking about being proud of who we are in that verse. We're talking about being proud as in a feeling of superiority. Stop clobbering people over the head with verses like that taken out of context.
@MisterEvvvSymphoenix
12 күн бұрын
@@cweditor Please don't exaggerate. This is a Christian video. She hasn't even gone to an LG87+ video to say this, and there's no forcefulness involved. Isn't 'clobbering' too melodramatic and sensationalist? In any event, The Bible promotes wisdom and beneficial behaviour. LG87+ movement is blatantly against that. Even if our English definition of 'pride' may have some uses that the original biblical word did not, taking 'pride' in something God is against can never be a good thing.
@MisterEvvvSymphoenix
12 күн бұрын
@@claudiatheobald9928 I'm under the impression that the English word for 'pride' doesn't have all the same nuances as the the biblical one used for the sin. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like all instances of 'I'm proud to be an American' come from a negative place. That could be more a matter of admiration for your country and the things you stand for, as well as appreciation for being a part of it.
Wow! This made me really think about what I believe about pride. Listening to Elizabeth speak I felt like I could hear humility in her voice as she professed her love for Christ. God Bless each one of you! ❤️🙏
This lady truly understands both sides. When you put Jesus first everything else will fall into place.
@citytrees1752
13 күн бұрын
She seems to really understand Jesus more than many.
@danielaorellana8216
12 күн бұрын
First than your own children? cause you are you so selfish that you prefer eternal life than loving your children if they are gay or trans? Many religious parents stop communicating with their children when they tell them they are gay. Or they make them choose between living a miserable life or being rejected by them. And this is correct? Insane.
@j.lindley3953
10 күн бұрын
I agree but I also get the sense that she’s still giving caviate to the earliest form of the lgbtq movement
@pdxnikki1
9 күн бұрын
Ikr?! Amazing grace.
@hernmar.4
9 күн бұрын
Good observation. Put Jesus first. Stop the hate!
Elizabeth was great! What a gentle, loving spirit she has. I'm so appreciative of what she had to share and you gained a new sub today! I used to own a coffeehouse in the gay part of my town and most of my customers were gay. Because they'd come every day, I'd get to know them and hear their stories and so many of them were truly heartbreaking. They'd fallen into the lifestyle and didn't know how to get out or they'd become a Christian and the "family" (gay community) had instantly rejected them or they were dying of AIDS-related illness or they'd contracted HIV from a man in the community who made it his goal to infect as many men as possible. I mean ..... it was heavy. Really heavy. After a while, I realized they just needed someone to talk to who felt "safe" and, frankly, who was outside of that community because it's a pretty gossipy community. So maybe the first step is to be willing -- as Elizabeth said -- to hear their stories and show compassion and be a safe place. (Although I kind of hate that phrase now but you know what I mean. Hold their stories in confidence.) You can show compassion for someone's pain without endorsing their sin. Jesus did that all the time.
@SH-mn8pq
11 күн бұрын
You can show compassion for someone’s pain without endorsing their sand. Love it!
@moniquemonique6074
10 күн бұрын
Do it then. And, say to them what Jesus said, “and sin no more”.
@NightmareRex6
10 күн бұрын
@@moniquemonique6074 yea im still trying to figure out the "sin no more" part how?
Pride is a human attitude that is not of God. Pride, like lying, is a sin.
I think we should simply display banners with a rainbow with Genesis 9:13 on it in June, reclaiming God's rainbow and it's real meaning.
@josiaholden5080
15 күн бұрын
things can have multiple meanings
@ElizabethS519
15 күн бұрын
@@josiaholden5080 they can't have paradoxes meanings.
@josiaholden5080
15 күн бұрын
@@ElizabethS519 It isn’t a paradox though?
@ElizabethS519
15 күн бұрын
@josiaholden5080 yes it is. The rainbow is a covenant from God. Pride is the anthisies of God and his creation.
@josiaholden5080
15 күн бұрын
@@ElizabethS519 So people can’t be proud of who they are? I think you’re equating Pride with people who are overly prideful which is what the bible is referencing. Let’s try and think a little deeper here?
As a teacher, I also see that the most current movement brings a sense of belonging to the youth. We have so many young people who feel left out, feel sad, and utterly see how accepting this movement is that they are drawn to it. We have to pray for our youth so that they start believing in the identity that they have in God. We need to listen to them and make them feel that they can open up to parents and leaders whenever they are struggling.
@project.family4
11 күн бұрын
Great insight!
@josephhunt9764
10 күн бұрын
Speaking also from the perspective of an educator and a gay man, I have become painfully aware of an initially shocking phenomenon that occurs when students who are experiencing these feelings of non-belonging and affiliate with the LGBT+ community in an attempt to find that sense of belonging within the confounds of the "community" are ultimately adopting beliefs or learned behaviors that may in that specific group or sect provide them with some form of a sense of belonging but what it is potentially simultaneously doing is ostracizing them from the familiar bonds of previously established communities that are far deeper rooted and perhaps more profound than relationships that are only formed by a shared longing to feel included and not the specific beliefs or culture of the LGBT+ community specifically when it comes to sexuality. I see students latch on to these misguided fads or fetishes believing that by accepting them they have found community but if you dig past the surface you'll often find that they don't truly hold the same desires or beliefs but will subconsciously accept them as their own because they so crave that sense of belonging but it is ultimately just a superficial construct that they'll often drift from with age then they're right back to feeling like they don't belong.
June is Sacred Heart of Jesus month. now that’s something we can be proud of
@pama.6410
13 күн бұрын
And where our attention and focus should be.
@leshavchurch
12 күн бұрын
HUH???🧐
@yvie0136
12 күн бұрын
@@leshavchurch what do you mean?
@mysonsmom9754
12 күн бұрын
@leshavchurch They’re Catholic.
@notyou9743
11 күн бұрын
Absolutely right
I was a young Christian woman filled with the Holy Spirit who then left my faith due to a marriage that i entered even after supernatural vision from God telling me not to marry the man. After the divorce i slid into hardcore sin, dating married men, drunkenness, LSD, cocaine, and living for the flesh 100% Within a few years i developed a sexual desire for women. I dated women for 3 years. My life devolved from fast paced and "fun" to being a dark depressed lonely place. In 2020 i began begging God's forgiveness, praying and intensely seeking a relationship. Within seconds i felt the love of God. Within a few days my life was radically different. I began seeing everything around me for what it was. I didn't even think about the homosexuality but later realized that the thought of sex with women suddenly made me feel honestly grossed out. I hadn't prayed about it but the Holy Spirit had somehow washed that away.
@christine460
10 күн бұрын
You're gonna be ready for the day of His visitation and will be used mightily to preach the gospel and lead many out of sexual sin. This is year of his visitation.
@JudyChartrand-qd7yc
9 күн бұрын
After my divorce I got into adulterous behavior. I knew better, but the desire was strong. One day I saw the darkness in it too. The hurt it caused me, by my being spiritually irresponsible. Living in that sin. I committed my life to God, got into the scriptures. Ask God’s forgiveness of course. God took that desire away from me. That was years ago. I’m still single because God made it clear that I’m not to remarry. I’m happy with that although at one time I simply couldn’t imagine being single for the rest of my life. Only God.
The term 'pride' is an interesting description of this movement. The Bible makes it very clear that pride is a sin, no matter the context. It is sad that this movement reduces humanity to sexual preferences. The attack on Biblical marriage is real.
@peterjermey7235
13 күн бұрын
The pride the Bible condemns is Donald Trumps boasting, not the movement asking you to allow your gay neighbor the same rights and freedoms that you have
@channahnoyb4803
13 күн бұрын
@peterjermey7235 Why call it pride then?
@peterjermey7235
13 күн бұрын
@@channahnoyb4803 because the feeling was that gay people didn't have rights because they were all fearfully hiding in the closet. It's easier to say "gays should be banned from government jobs" or "gay people should not be allowed to meet in public" than Uncle John should be banned from government jobs or Uncle John should be banned from organizing a public event
@Emily-rz7fs
13 күн бұрын
@@peterjermey7235pride is pride. There is no such thing as righteous pride. And the lgbt community is now trying to take away the rights of religious communities.
@smclindsey
13 күн бұрын
What does Trump have to do with this?
Listened to this entire interview and never heard the word sin at all. God wants us to turn away from sin (all sin) and become as we are meant to be. We all struggle with this is some way (sexual sins are just one type of sin). But make no mistake, we must all turn away from our sins and we should share the truth in love
@bjteacher3721
12 күн бұрын
@rhondalandry5215, amen.
@ColorEnthusiast
9 күн бұрын
I think that it is important to tell Christians that God wants them to repent from sin, and also to those who are curious about our faith. However, we should not expect those who are completely removed from Christianity to follow the Bible, as the concept of repentance from sin is likely not considered relevant or important to them. The most we can do for them is to pray for them and to show them love and compassion, without being in support of their sins. So, I think mentioning the word "sin" may or may not be appropriate depending on if they claim to follow the Bible or not, as people in the church and people outside the church live by very different moral compasses.
@pdxnikki1
9 күн бұрын
God meets each of us where we're at & taking our willing hand, leads us forward. Some people don't understand the concept of sin. It's like teaching preschoolers calculus. Jesus met me in my atheism where sin was a fictional idea at best. He taught me. He showed me. It took years. Wisdom is always to evangelize with this in mind. Beating the blind over the head with a flashlight doesn't restore their sight. Use what works. Don't try to be right, just show them salvation.
@rsviews2167
9 күн бұрын
People who act according to the bible's teachings just to avoid going to hell are not worthy. They're just cowards. I make as few mistakes as I can and try to learn from them to simplify my existence and feel happier. That's my code, and I think it's decent. I stay as far away from people like you as I can and if I end up in hell, then so be it. All you folks ever have on your mind is sin. Try love instead, and a good day to you.
@dianecourtney2724
7 күн бұрын
@@ColorEnthusiastSin doesn’t matter for the unsaved. The only issue for the unsaved is SALVATION !! Then sin comes into the discussion.
As a conservative Christian mom of an increasingly militant trans son, I found this discussion to be very wise as well as tender. Thank you, God bless 🙌 🙏
@d4hd4h
7 күн бұрын
i feel awful for your kid. they deserve a real mom, not an ideologue who wants them to suffer for their god. pray that your child finds a better family someday. lord knows the one they have now is inadequate
@Maksie0
3 күн бұрын
Your child should come first. Not your cult.
@d4hd4h
3 күн бұрын
@@Maksie0 she’s a militant christian, of course she cares about her cult more than her kid
@jennaphage
11 сағат бұрын
If you think the modern trans movement is not its own cult - you dear, sweet summer child.
@Maksie0
10 сағат бұрын
@@jennaphage Don't patronize me, you reactionary freak.
Elizabeth, God Bless you. God is Mighty to save! You are a Blessing! ✝️
For years June is the month of the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
“If [we] have not chosen the Kingdom of God [first], it will make in the end no difference what [we] have chosen instead” (William Law, 18th-century clergyman).
June is for The Sacred Heart of Jesus. As a Catholic, I proclaim it proudly.
"Since I can't change I will change the church." Now I understand why they call it pride.
@jpowers7320
12 күн бұрын
Change the church in the way that the church should not promote fear and hate. They have pride because Christians would love to stone them and now they can’t.
Elizabeth is humble and truly wise.
June has always been the Sacred Heart of Jesus Month and dates back to the 17th century
@notyou9743
11 күн бұрын
Absolutely true
@joanboulio9758
9 күн бұрын
I was going to comment that this month is a special month dedicated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus
I personally wouldn’t say “in celebration of pride month” but instead “as all of us are well aware it’s pride month, what does it mean to you?…”
@mchiaramonte3
13 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly! I was thinking, Yikes, I would never say that. I wouldn't want to give anyone the impression that I was celebrating pride month.
@katherinewaite1577
13 күн бұрын
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@snappysnap955
13 күн бұрын
So appreciate this conversation and Elizabeth's testimony. I actually feel sympathy for the individuals that have been boondoggled into the idea that this is their identity. And while I know not in every instance, there are many that land there because of some kind of molestation, abuse or trauma when they were young and they were vulnerable in the stage of understanding who they are. I also feel sympathy because I think many, even intelligent people, get swept along by a movement, especially now, and you are almost distrusted if you dont adopt all of their dogma (the rainbow group dogma). I think they want to identify with this powerful movement but are often victims of it just like all the rest of the culture is. I also admit that it can be hard for me to separate the individual from the movement when they promote it. I do get angry and distressed because children and corrupting their minds and heart seems to be a top priority in this movement. And that is highly charged for me.
@geraldinetoughey9622
13 күн бұрын
@@snappysnap955I feel the same way. Children are so innocent and unknowing.
@amandadangerfieldpiano
13 күн бұрын
Yeah. 💯
Pride goes before the fall!
This was incredible. I have been looking for this type of discussion and testimony. Not only to hear within the world, but as well to seek answers within myself. Again, insightful and amazing. Found this on tiktok and am so glad I got to hear this all the way through.
"What do we say? We speak the truth in love. John 3:16
@arthurattila7835
11 күн бұрын
The truth is also found in Mark 7:21-22. Spoken by Jesus the Messiah.
Rosario Butterfield, Christopher Yun, Becket Cook are also great teachers, each has written and voicing being “born again”. Hallelujah!!
What a beautiful video! I was deeply touched by Elizabeth, her story, and her ministry. Thank you for giving her a chance in this video to share her relationship with Christ and the love, compassion, wisdom and ability to empathize with everyone so deeply that she has no doubt gained from putting Him first and wanting Him most. May we all experience this - and continue to experience His love - always, as the praise and glory go to Him for His healing grace and His eternal relentless pursuit of each one of us. He paid every price to take every pain and be in every detail and stand beside us. What mercy! May we let Him work through us, I pray!
1 Corinthians 6:9-20 9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. 12"Everything is permissible for me"-but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"-but I will not be mastered by anything. 13"Food for the stomach and the stomach for food"-but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, "The two will become one flesh." 17But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit. 18Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
The church does need to change. We need to get back to Biblical authority. We need to get back to the great commission and GO OUT and preach the gospel not hide in out in our Sunday buildings. We need to speak the truth in love and call out sin clearly and lovingly. We need to love sinners enough to let our gay family and friends know they need to repent. I
@JudyChartrand-qd7yc
9 күн бұрын
That is the truth. We can live people but not condone their sin.
The month of June is DEDICATED TO THE SACRED HEART OF JESUS. not some immoral group.
As wonderful as this testimony is, she still sounds apologetic. As Christians we are being pushed to the side everyday. The government through the school system is telling us how we must raise our children. I think the response to pride month is for Christians to declare the month of June and a national month of prayer, fasting and repentance for ourselves the church and the nation. seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other things shall be added. SO THE RESPONSE TO PRIDE MONTH IS FOR CHRISTIANS TO DECLARE IT A NATIONAL MONTH OF PRAYER AND FASTING. And you see this movement bow to the lordship of Jesus.
@jennifernagely5097
12 күн бұрын
It is also the month of the Sacred Heart of Jesus since the 17th century.
@deidresowerby4687
11 күн бұрын
Everyday should be a National Day of Prayer, not just one month.
@victoriafreudenthal4528
10 күн бұрын
Excellent
What a wonderful interview! I praise God for His beautiful workings with this precious daughter of His. He is a true Redeemer.
Satan is the father of confusion and lies which causes people to live in sin and accepting sin as normal. The truth of God’s word is clear to those that trust Christ. It is sad to see so many being deceived especially our churches.
@terryhuffaker3615
12 күн бұрын
Satan uses the guise of compassion to cover the ugly depth of self-harm and sin.
Such an important topic!! I’m glad this popped into my feed!
As a Catholic Christian, June has been celebrated in a special way. The Catholic Church dedicates the month of June to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. This tradition dates back to the 17th century when St. Margaret Mary Alacoque, a French nun, had visions of Jesus Christ revealing His Sacred Heart to her. This devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus became popular and spread throughout the Catholic Church.
@notyou9743
11 күн бұрын
Exactly right
@claytonspeed
11 күн бұрын
I celebrate the sacred heart and pride. With Jesus all things are possible. You don’t have to choose one over the other.
@maf1746
11 күн бұрын
Just so you know, this couple is against Catholisism and has an entire video about it. 😪
@lilyanrolander9021
11 күн бұрын
@@maf1746 That’s okay, Catholicism since 33 A.D.
@ebriggs3498
10 күн бұрын
Paganism!
Thank you for sharing your story. I have been praying for someone close to me to have a change of affection for opposite sex. But this gives me new perspective to pray that affection will be changed for relationship with Jesus. That should be the foundation for all of us.
I'm surprised there was no mention of how we should respond to an invitation to a friend's or loved one's so-called marriage.
@astroterf.
11 күн бұрын
Refuse? Marriage is between a man and a woman Tell them that you love them, wish them well but can't support the sin
Yes and Amen to Elizabeth’s prayer!
Doesn’t feel like “building trust” but rather looking for an opportunity to pursue in your favor. Listening - in order to fashion a defense - is not loving, accepting, or reconciling in my opinion.
I'm sorry but there will be no moral revolution without repentance and turning from sin. How do we have 'reconciliation' month when James tells us that friendship with the world is enmity with God!?!!? What are we reconciling about? Jesus said, " Whoever believes in me is not condemned but whoever does not believe is condemned already." Paul adjures us to ABHOR what is evil and HOLD FAST to what is good. These are people desperately in need of the understanding that they are separated from their Creator and facing judgement unless they repent and believe. This message needs to be shared because of a love and concern for their condition but also an understanding that their situation is dire; truly frightening. Love will tell the truth and show the way to a better future and reconciliation with their Creator.
The word, pride, itself explains everything that needs to be explained. Just open The Bible and see what it says about it.
@NightmareRex6
10 күн бұрын
why when i hear "pride" i think of a human crapping on toilet or a cat crapping in a cats pride TM cat litter?
@ryr1974
8 күн бұрын
Yes just open your bible in which you are admonished to be proud in the knowledge of the LOrd or in your faith or in faithfulness. In Greek there are different words that mean pride in english. So in English we must look to context or add some additional words to specify when we don't mean pride as a rightful satisfaction and confidence and willingness to be known for having a solid character or overcoming adversity and so on. We have some words that help us clarify when we mean the dangerous and shameful forms of pride. These words include Hubris, or pompous, or we specify in some way that a person's attitude is a kind of misplaced and ill informed self opinion grounded in the meaningless or shameful. To point to the use of the word Pride as an example of how gay people flaunt the fact that they hold and encourage an attitude that God condemns just says that you are superficial and not verry reflective in your approach to reading your own sacred texts and the use of your native language or that you are moved by popular expressions and statements that seal your membership to a certain group of ideologically aligned persons and let such political acts of self identification determine how you use your words rather than ruling your toung and subjecting it to the demands of truth and wisdom or engaging in plain speech in which yes is yes and no is no and you do not invoke God's will for your own vein purposes. It is a criticism I have of the many who are making these arguments. I just wrote something here. I do not mean to attack you personally but to make the point. I make similarly superficial arguments most people probably do at points but when the mem begins to carve its wisdom out on real people living in this world we need to rise to higher standards of truth.
I love how she said: " Focus on Jesus" and what He has done For me. See people as individuals who need to know the love of God. Not chopped down with hate.
Thank you. This was true love.
We’re supposed to say the truth whether it hurts or not it’s not our words. It’s God‘s word.
Please pray for my daughter, she is currently embracing the homosexual lifestyle, but at the same time has a relationship with Jesus. She needs prayers for the scales to fall off and her her to see she isnt living like Jesus wants her to.❤
Thank you
Great discussion very enlightening, thanks for sharing
These stories of transformation gives me so so much hope for me.
@ddrse
15 күн бұрын
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨❤️👨
@melodysledgister2468
14 күн бұрын
@@ddrseElizabeth was. But Jesus helped her to stop sinning. He can help us all stop sinning and glorify God with our bodies.
@ddrse
14 күн бұрын
@@melodysledgister2468 Sounds like you're under the old covenant. And Jesus says you just have to look at someone wrong to break the entire law and become one flesh with a harlot. Restoring the true level of the law. The point of the Bible is to prove to religious people that they are not up to God's standards. Jesus Will judge you by the measure you choose. If you want to keep God's Commandments don't judge others by the law. Your works of righteousness will witness against you that they weren't up to the measure.
@elainep8873
14 күн бұрын
You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you. Ask for hope, strength and the will of the Lord
@elainep8873
14 күн бұрын
@@ddrsenot if you’re practicing. Very clearly were to leave all our sexual sin behind. That includes sex outside marriage, adultery, sexual perversion, porn, and homosexuality
I just loved Elizabeth's testimony and such wise words. Thank you, and God bless you all.
Interesting conversation. As a Pentecostal and now an Anglican, I too realize that I had an ill-formed and uninformed Christian faith. The various parts of the Church certainly need each other. Glory to God!
@WheresWaldo05
16 күн бұрын
Do research. Wherever that research leads you, as far who the original christian church is, that is who you should join. Everything else is watered down via things someone at one point in time did not like so went off and started their own demoninations.
@melodysledgister2468
14 күн бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKeexpqxiZy1g7A.html
@jeannier5938
13 күн бұрын
Original? Just look for biblical truths. If u want original, join a small home based group. Certainly not episcopal or Roman Catholic or orthodox…. But biblically sounds more important than “original”
@WheresWaldo05
13 күн бұрын
@@jeannier5938 Orthodox and Catholic are the two most pure churches. Lol. Every other branch whined that they did not like this or agree with that from the bible. So people left and made their own fake churches disregarding what tjey did not like. After enough versions they are no longwr followers of GOD. Just frauds.
@JudyChartrand-qd7yc
9 күн бұрын
I believe the Bible is always the answer, not a church. As a young girl I was in a Pentecostal church for a period of time. I got saved more than once in that church. Sounds crazy? Yes. Because I didn’t know what being saved was. I thought it was a feeling. They shouted the scriptures but never taught the scriptures. I was an adult before I was truly saved. I found a church that taught the Bible and didn’t run on emotions. I also learned to read the scriptures for myself.
Sin is sin
@lovelife2186
12 күн бұрын
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I took an hour and a half listening to this 46min video. Most of the time was spent rolling back and listening again to certain quotes and copying them in writing. Elizabeth Woning has helped me, a future Global Methodist, to understand LGBTs and how to deal with them alot better.
thank you! amazing revelation!
Finding a way to separate the LGBTQIA+ from the Civil Rights movement an important part of recognizing how far this could go and how this will affect us ALL…that would includes people on every camp. Rosaría Butterfield has good literature that brings wisdom and clarity.
@ryr1974
8 күн бұрын
I was there with a thumbs up till the last point you made.
Thank you for your candidness. I’m learning a lot from it. I love the idea of a reconciliation month.
As a Christian gal I pay No attention to this pride agenda
Real Love is irresistible. I am so thankful for the genuine, loving , Born Again Believers in my young life. (Gotta go…VBS is calling!)
“this far and no farther” also risks a slippery slope.
A real Christian must repent from things that grieve God, period.
One of the BEST interviews I've seen on KZread in a long time. Good job!
I don’t know what this channel is but assuming the two are a couple - I think it was awesome that you guys brought someone on who once identified as queer and allowed her to speak openly.
This is a very soft, effeminate treatment of the subject.
@tiermacgirl
12 күн бұрын
What are you talking about. What is an "effeminate treatment" of a subject? How does it differ from a "treatment" of a subject? And what specific subject please? A number of topics are handled during this conversation.
Interesting. The community that demands tolerance and acceptance were not able to offer the same.
@d4hd4h
7 күн бұрын
tolerance and acceptance is never offered to intolerant or bigoted opinions. that’s why your type of christianity isn’t tolerated. if you just followed the non bigoted version no one would have a problem with you
@jennaphage
11 сағат бұрын
“If you don’t allow us to re-write what God has said is sinful and change church history or tradition into how we see it, we will continue to reject you.” The struggle session is strong, with this one.
2 Timothy 3:1But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, 4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! Galatians 6:14 But God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
@JudyChartrand-qd7yc
9 күн бұрын
Bible scriptures is better than anyones opinion. Thank you.
As the number of detransitioners taking lawsuits grows, and the professionals who coerced vulnerable people into destroying their bodies and minds, surgically and medically get held accountable, this ideology will crumble and fall. The brave people speaking out and helping those detransitioners find justice, are doing God's work. The recent publications of the Wpath files and The Cass Review are waking and shaking the world up. The awakening is happening. The pastor has many very relevant points re the dark side of the rainbow. Parents need to protect and educate their children during this month, not embrace and celebrate. The beautiful rainbow and the 'fun'' colours/balloons/bunting has become the long grass hiding the snakes.
Young Christian kids speaking "tongues", crying, falling down etc. Is like nothing Jesus or his disciples displayed when "full" of the Holy Spirit. This outward display of "pentacostalism" IS STILL NOT FROM GOD.
Beautiful testimony
Thank you for this! What an insightful, humble, and wonderful perspective. This challenged me and I will be making some different decisions during pride month and how I support my LGBT friends. ☺️
Good convo
Whenever and wherever the spirit of the Lord is there's freedom ✨️ ❤
Love this, my head is reeling too! But I so want to be that person that can help replace and rebuild their relationship with God.
@martimealer5721
12 күн бұрын
You can do it! Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added onto you
This is sooooo GOOD! The Lord delivered me from sin long ago yet I wasn't walking in deliverance and was a liar, thief, idolater, a practicing lesbian of more than 32 years, a hypocrite, and anything else you can think of. On 04/14/2024 The Lord came to me, called me, delivered me, counseled me, instructed me, guided me, girded me, affirmed me in Him, esteemed me, commissioned me, and commanded me to live Holy! I surrendered my life to Him completely and said YES to Him. My lesbian relationship of six years was dissolved and The Lord took care of all involved and impacted for His Glory and Purpose! The spiritual layers to the physical layers The Lord addresses within deliverance and conversion from sin to Holiness is AMAZING! It's painful, initially, but necessary and BEAUTIFUL! He's right there through it all and He doesn't perform magic or unnecessarily exert His diety and control over us rather He overcomes via His Love, Power, and humanity in the person of Jesus Christ in the Trinity! I'm not concerned with my sexual identity or desires being converted as she said rather learning how to Love and serve The Lord better by His direct and personal guidance! To GOD BE THE GLORY ❤🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿
@erinneikirk2120
7 күн бұрын
Hallelujah!! ❤🙌🙌❤
Do you have any ministry contacts in Austin, TX with similar mission?
Scripture is the final authority.
@JudyChartrand-qd7yc
9 күн бұрын
Amen! Amen!
I applaud this woman for her bold and courageous testimony. Takes a lot to go counter-culture. Nicely done. She's in love with the Lord, plain and simple. Thank God for the Pentecostals. They are responsible for catapulting me into a much deeper walk with the Lord. They are a vibrant community. In a way, it's no surprise that the creative, compassionate types (which many gays are) can find a gateway to the Lord with an act of spirit-filled worship..
Seek the kingdom of God First , your identity in Christ and then everything else will just fall in place organically 🤗
@leahbrock7992
15 күн бұрын
Amen!! ❤Once Jesus gets ahold of you, you’ll never want to be apart from Him!
Please it is simple, love them welcome them, but do not accept their behavior as it is Sin. The sinner has to come to terms with their sin, and see it as sin, so that they can ask Gods forgiveness. Yes it is hard to heal, but it is a necessary. Christens should always lift them in prayer, God will do the rest!! We have to make sure we promote spiritual Truth, not Sympathy.
@ryr1974
8 күн бұрын
Honest question. If someone is married and one of them commits adultery but the couple comes together again. They may have divorced then remarried again but I guess they would not even need to formally divorce by our legal rules. Would our response as Christians be to hold them in prayer and hold them to the demand of healing and repentance? And by that I mean that they would no longer share a bed and dissolve their marriage and remain single or take a new spouse. Or would we consider them right with God having confronted the betrayal and restored their commitment to each other?
June is the month of the sacred heart of Jesus.
I've never heard someone express such a balanced view on this issue
It’s no longer about acceptance but affirmation. We can’t persecute but to No one can/should force anyone to think or speak a uniform way!
I had written a bunch... but Elizabeth says it all!
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Reconciliation not opposition! That was beautiful ❤️
As a Catholic with many gay friends and associates I really appreciate the wisdom of this commentary. Thank you! 🙏🩷
I love this
Excelente testimony.
Sorry I watched this a few days ago & found it quite boring and not substantial or into the nitty-gritty of things. I appreciate the kindness & sensitivity, but not deep enough discussion. God bless y’all ❤ I just want to give constructive criticism ❤
Family Month is the month between mothers day and fathers day.
What a beautiful woman and what profound insight! It's slightly painful hearing this younger man's, the interviewer, his abrasiveness and seeming lack of wisdom, understanding, and much more.... God bless all
Theology of the body.
pride day to pride week to pride month. June when I was growing up was the month of The Sacred Heart of Jesus
@peace-and-quiet
3 күн бұрын
It still belongs to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. ❤️🔥
Jesus delivers.
The sermon “Beware of Pride” Ezra Taft Benson is very good.
Let's get this straight,. A "proud gay person" is teaching us on how to respond to "Pride month". I think I will go to God's word for that, Do you not realize that God calls homosexuality sin?
@clydekimsey7503
14 күн бұрын
Isnt she an ex lesbian?
@Austin030708
14 күн бұрын
Yes, she is a former lesbian......who is now happily married to a man!! Praise God @@clydekimsey7503
@samanthasayer548
13 күн бұрын
Find the context for this.
@terryhuffaker3615
12 күн бұрын
I believe she is currently celebrate and no longer a practicing "gay" person.
@Maksie0
12 күн бұрын
Sure, go listen to your imaginary friend again.
The Bible addresses pride as a sin numerous times across both the Old and New Testaments. While it doesn’t provide a specific count, the theme of pride being sinful is consistently emphasized. Here are some key references where pride is highlighted as a sin: 1. Proverbs 8:13 - “To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.” 2. Proverbs 11:2 - “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.” 3. Proverbs 16:18 - “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.” 4. Proverbs 18:12 - “Before a downfall the heart is haughty, but humility comes before honor.” 5. Proverbs 21:4 - “Haughty eyes and a proud heart-the unplowed field of the wicked-produce sin.” 6. Isaiah 2:12 - “The Lord Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled).” 7. Isaiah 23:9 - “The Lord Almighty planned it, to bring down her pride in all her splendor and to humble all who are renowned on the earth.” 8. James 4:6 - “But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: ‘God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.’” 9. 1 Peter 5:5 - “In the same way, you who are younger, submit yourselves to your elders. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, ‘God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.’”
I love my neighbor as Jesus commands. I let God sort out what they do in the bedroom
AMEN!!!! Satan would like the Body Of Christ to dilly-dally around with political double-talk to somehow sweet-talk demonic strongholds... Corinthians 2:12-14 "Now we have received, NOT the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."💪✝️👆🏿
@terryhuffaker3615
12 күн бұрын
Amen amen amen!
@terryhuffaker3615
12 күн бұрын
Thank you for quoting scripture with your comment!
Marketing departments have largely become lazy and uncreative. I think businesses will blow wherever the wind goes. This world loves money, so use it wisely.
The Gay & Lesbian Vaishnava Association (GALVA) holds to practically the entire scope of the LGBTQ+.
please add a link to this sister’s organization.