That's one reason when European truck manufacturers started making electric trucks, those trucks were based on their normal diesel trucks. And they are evolving over time.

@Secretlyanothername

3 ай бұрын

They're way ahead of Tesla's semi

😂Then they can't make more money. Greed speaks. But you guys are to the point and down to earth. All the world needs businesses like you.

@ratchetfox8111

3 ай бұрын

You would think that they woukd want to use common parts as economies of scale means the parts cost less so more profit for them. But i guess the they wouldn't be able to make parts obsolete in

@martinpoulsen6564

3 ай бұрын

​@ratchetfox8111 Tesla is all about the monopoly. Get a fleet hooked, and here we go. Might handle fine, last pretty decent etc., but there's only one place to go...

This is exactly what I was thinking about... while leaving work today, working at tesla. My man, I'm so ready to invest into Edison. Sign me up.

But but but but I _like_ using left-handed fasteners for everything 😅

Ah, the voice of reason. So few people can hear it these days. Keep up the sensibility! Y'all are doing GREAT!!! I only wish I could afford to put one of your retrofit kits on my '89 Chevy K1500 and become a dealer and installer for your system down here in the US. I've been looking for someone with an open mind to pitch the idea to. I hope to find someone soon!

@invisibilianone6288

3 ай бұрын

I hope to keep my old '69 GMC K2500 on the road til I die. It's had me 28yrs and though it is not perfect, in appearance, it's perfect for me. It gets about 8mpg, going downhill, engine off, with a good tailwind and the sails catching air...😁

@VTX00128

3 ай бұрын

​​@@invisibilianone6288I hope those sails have the colors.🏴‍☠️

@invisibilianone6288

3 ай бұрын

@@VTX00128 You know it ☠ Final colors, before I die, hopefully black & gold 💣💀😎☕

Im sure you understand more than anybody that Tesla got all its valuation as a tech company not a vehicle company. Mentally they had to do all all the engineering because thats what makes a Tesla. From the top down this thinking probably never allowed them to consider the easy option and anyone that questioned that got told to get out. Its asinine.

Thats what is great about the milking robot i have. The base is stolen from a cnc machine the, programming is from the older robot what still worked, all air is from festo. Milking equipment is the same in all there conventional machine. Only the downside they still calculate a pretty big mark up on licenses and parts

Agree , they have more money than common sense. The last thing they have in their mind is actually helping us truckers.

@1337w0n

3 ай бұрын

It's worse; they're making it bad on purpose because if no one else makes the parts then they get more money selling overpriced custom parts.

What happened to yesterdays video? I opened it in the morning but when i went to watch it in the afternoon it was taken down.

Exactly! Just got my kit reservation hat and stickers in the mail! Looking forward to hopefully having the first F250 Bricknose build. I'm kit # 180, so no idea if anyone else will get to a bricknose f250 before me, but there won't be many I am sure.

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

I got a 96 f250 which shares many parts with the bricknose

@highplainshollarhomestead3188

Ай бұрын

@@JD-yx7be It sure does.

I would love to have one of your Edison kits in an old 70's Chevy crew cab dually. Maybe with a small diesel engine for charging

@BlackEpyon

Ай бұрын

The option is available. You can either go straight electric, or go the hybrid route, as your needs dictate.

"Use the same Sh- parts as everybody else" That's why we love you

Apparently the normal Tesla motors only have something like a 60 hp continuous duty rating, which is safe to say is just not nearly enough for a loaded semi truck.

@beyondwhatisknown

3 ай бұрын

That's a useful spec that no one ever talks about. Thanks. I wonder how that varies with ambient temperature.

@jamesphillips2285

3 ай бұрын

A few years ago I interviewed for a place that did efficiency mods on trucks: like run at a higher temperature,,, and limit the horsepower to 60hp while cruising.

@the_undead

3 ай бұрын

How does 240 horsepower sound for keeping a loaded semi at 50 to 55 mi an hour

@beyondwhatisknown

3 ай бұрын

@@the_undead At 30 L /100 km (8 mpg), and 20% efficient diesel engine, I calculate in my head that 80 hp could keep a loaded truck running on flat ground, on average. A car uses about 20 hp at 7.5 L/100 km from what I remember. Going up the Coquihalla Hiway from Hope to Merritt will use all the horsepower you've got. 240 horsepower would require 89.7 liters per hour at 20% efficiency.

@tankiadam4967

3 ай бұрын

Something I wanted to add is my source is from aging wheels. He has a school bus that he is turning into a toy hauler/camper/maybe a tow rig, and wants to make it electric, and that is where I learned about the continuous duty rating.

The five years probably had a lot to do with attempting self driving, which looks like it will stay 95% complete and have to be renamed to something like 'cruise control plus'.

The trucking business is based on economy of scale. If you don’t address economy of scale, fleets will have no interest in your product, and this disinterest will carry over to the independents as well through economic determinism. Fleets drive the market. Thanks for the videos. Good luck in your endeavors. Take care.

I agree but keep your eye on the target for your company your doing stellar

Take advantage of decades of product development and testing for no cost. That alone is worth millions. Off the shelf parts sourcing is brilliant. This is a wise decision. There is plenty of choice available for all applications. And still, there is room for creativity.

I read somewhere that automotive suppliers wouldn't work with Tesla, which is why they make everything themselves. But it most probably suits then so they can control parts supply and pricing.

They'd rather it last just long enough for you to be able to afford to buy a another one rather than service it and keep it on the road. So wasteful.

It's the same reason why apple has their special snowflake charge port instead of adopting USB like everyone else did 15-20 years ago. Tesla isn't an automotive manufacturer, they're a fashion statement. You control the standards, you control the repairability, which means you control when your customers need to buy a new truck.

@BlackEpyon

Ай бұрын

Apple was pissed when the EU forced them to use a USB-C port like everyone else.

Делай дальше свои видео у тебя всё обязательно получится!

Well said.

You are Brilliant!

you have not meet enough design engineers if it works it means it doesn't have enough features. I'm quality engineer I fight this all the time

Very well said!!!

Love hearing you talk about all these things. Loving watching your videos. I really hope your business takes off and you get hundreds and thousands of orders. I would love to know how well Topsy does how does it compare to a standard diesel mpg. And how well it does for logging like you mostly designed if for right? Everything I hear you say resonates with me and gets me angry that I don't see more companies like yours.

Coral has the prettiest eyes :)

Me watching this having just had to call around looking for 20-spline slack adjusters for a truck that had a front drive system upfitted to it...

You're right but their brand in many senses is "reinventing the wheel" and this is not the best plan all the time lol😂. I am not a Tesla fan or advocate just a guy pointing out some brands stick to their thing even if it kills them.

@BlackEpyon

Ай бұрын

Pretty much the same with SpaceX these days. I mean, with the Falcon, they made a rocket that worked, and THEN bolted on the guide fins and landing struts and experimented with getting it to land. With Starship though, they are not only re-inventing the wheel over and over again, they keep repeating the mistakes NASA learned from over 50 years ago! SpaceX has a MASSIVE advantage over NASA in that they're not structured like a government jobs program, they build everything in a single facility, which makes the manufacturing so much cheaper. But they WASTE those savings by running fast and loose in the development instead of taking the time to plan things out! Simple stupid mistakes like not having a water deluge system, or not having enough baffles in the tanks, that cost SpaceX millions more than if they just did it right the first time!

I completely agree!!! Screw that guy, you have it figured out! We find it hard to get parts on mass produced trucks sometimes much less a completely proprietary truck that's barand new

Over Engineered, Over Priced with built in Obsolescence for parts. They don't want to build vehicles that last they want maybe five years and customers buying new ones. As much as they cost they should last and be warranted for life!!

Agreed !

Now hopefully tesla doesnt redesign their axles and batteries, and discontinue the old stuff

Amen! But why use those E-axles? Shouldn't you isolate the motor(s) and all those weak connections and components from road bumps, bangs, and vibration? Is parasite drag of the driveshaft and diff really a big deal or is the E-axle builders warranty the draw? Really love the idea...hope the best for the Class 7/8 truck, but really, really excited about the light-duty (pick-up) conversation.

Tesla does things to benefit them, not necessarily the customers. If they can make the custom parts slightly cheaper or predict they will make more from selling parts only they can supply, then that’s what they are going to do.

The longest lasting "anything" can be repaired over and over and over with common parts. Why was Chevy the most popular brand years ago? Parts interchangeability! How many small block engines were built from parts from other small block engines despite displacement differences? Millions and it was fun and rewarding! Not today. Nothing to do with cars or trucks is fun anymore. Parts problems, prices, availability and STUPID LAWS from STUPID POLITICIANS that have never owned a wrench.

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

GM partially invented planned obsolesce. To compete with the model T, gm came out with a new update every year and marketed as vanity and you wouldn't want to be seen in the old model. The model t had very few updates from 1908-1927 and resisted making the model A for several years. GM also introduced auto financing to the masses, Ford didn't believe in usury(charging any interest)

@BlackEpyon

Ай бұрын

I love when I can just go to my local Lordco and order a bag full of the common bearing sizes my equipment uses!

What's new with your semi truck production company? You built a badass truck, now get somebody that knows how to do major marketing campaigns and get financing to build your factory. Come to Mexico and build here. I mean dude, you have something that would be awesome and there are mines here in Sonora and heavy trucks everywhere and people here would be eager to build and buy trucks.

Not to mention that standard parts would reduce the cost A LOT! I think the thing is that they make more money off of custom parts - but that seems VERY short-sighted. Reduce the cost and you'll sell more AND develop a good reputation for reparability.

@sabotabby3372

3 ай бұрын

its Tesla, they won't even let you report defects to consumer protection agencies without cutting off your OEM parts supply oh and of course if they catch you using 3rd party parts they'll brick your car

Tesla doesn't want to use standardized parts. They want to sell you proprietary ones that only they make when their custom ones inevitably fail in the field.

So Edison's business is to produce Electric Hybrid Vocational Trucks & EV Conversion Kits that deliver fuel savings without compromise. These kits will be comprised of off-the-shelf parts that you can source anywhere. Where is the value add? Software?

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

easy, they just sell a good product at good value. Not everything has to be a wall street scheme to milk everything to death.

@carl-oscarbjorkman8923

3 ай бұрын

It's ready made kits that they know work together so you don't have to source ALL the parts to convert a truck on your own and trying to make parts from different sources work together.

Where is the ontario to bc trip

@CyFr

3 ай бұрын

That was in yesterday's video

@stephenbinkley

3 ай бұрын

@@CyFr it's gone though

Here's the secret to Tesla, they are designed to last about as long as your phone does.

Forget the guys name/ tag was but has anyone heard from the guy putting this thing in fs22?

Man your common sense build sure pisses people off! I love it!!! Keep pokin the Bear!

Who would have thought that to build a truck you go to the truck store and buy truck parts!

"If you want the truck to last" Bold of you to assume Tesla does 🙃

@the_lost_navigator7266

3 ай бұрын

Just wait for an out of warranty cyber truck to throw a steering fault code. Who is going to want to fix it, and how much are they going to charge?? If the battery is suffering high deg, then it may well be uneconomical to repair it.

@Wrenchmonkey1

2 ай бұрын

@@the_lost_navigator7266 At that point, just install an Edison truck retrofit. 🤣

The real Tesla engineering is the money funnel

You can't make as much profit if the owner doesn't HAVE to buy the part from the manufacturer and then the parts get more expensive for repairs than buying a new truck. From the CEO's place your argument doesn't guarentee that big yearly bonus.... From behind the wheel your argument is why people hate the new trucks!!

Well damn 😂😢

No more government subsidies for electric trucks in Germany.

TESLA may partly be doing their designs of every part in-house because of greed and planned obsolescence, but there is another factor being missed in these comments. That factor is Elon Musk has his vision and no amount of common sense is going to interfere with that vision. On the one hand this is useful in pushing technologies forward, learning more and inventing new stuff. On the other hand it adds cost, complexity and piles on "Features" strictly because Musk is a nut for techno-golly-gee-whiz-bang add-ons. The reasons I'd never own any Tesla is the not simply the high price tag but the expectation of Tesla that owners absolutely love and adore Musk's vision for what a car or truck should be.

Tesla began with high end expensive luxury vehicles, Then branched out into more models and more affordable... Still ain't cheap, But it's still do able I'm betting that the tesla Semi Truck isn't under Elon's supervision. Basically it's been on the backburner Between opening gigafactories, the Boring Company, SpaceX, and his pet project Twitter-X Too many irons in the fire

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

I think elon is getting ready to jump ship. He is now pushing a narrative to buy Disney. A billionaire can't just sell shares or else the market will crash the stock, so he has to sell a narrative. He partially did this with twitter and now is trying the same with Disney.

@sabotabby3372

3 ай бұрын

also they burn through engineers at an insane pace, nobody can afford to keep working there and they work young grads to the bone then let them go once they can't keep up with demands no wonder they have the worst workplace safety in the industry and thats without mentioning the rampant workplace discrimination

nah... I'm sure you will not be able to complete your truck and get a VIN Number... I'm willing to bet my Tesla shares... (disclaimer: this was a joke, they already got a VIN number for their truck)

While you are correct this video should be under the "Shorts" section of your channel. Fans of what you are doing (LIKE ME!) want to see the longer form, full screen width videos of the development, the building and the running of your really smart designs.

That hat! Dead.

Many suppliers would not sell to Tesla in the early days. GM and Ford literally went to car shows so they could look at Tesla’s to figure the part suppliers Tesla was using and give them an ultimatum (No Tesla or No GMor Ford). Since Ford and GM were much bigger buyers, most suppliers chose to avoid Tesla. As a result Tesla is not willing to rely on those part suppliers who cut them off in the early days. The result is from scratch efforts that are super efficient, but non-standard.

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

Tesla was partnered with Mercedes and Toyota in the early days. The b-class ev and rav4 ev were tesla powertrains

Elon makes his money from war

Half agree and half disagree. Without engineering new stuff, technology would never advance. There is a reason why Tesla "re-invents" so many things, they want to advance technology. Not be stuck in the 70's. Like going to 48 V electronics. A lot of it has to do with safety. Edison trucks are as safe as a truck from the 70's. But advancing tech shouldn't mean it's too difficult or expensive to maintain vehicles.

I truly believe in your approach of embracing the established history of trucking to build a new truck for the future based on the best of the past. That being said, Elon is building stuff for use on Mars and other off world endeavors where the part store will be his closest 3D printer. If he owns the specifications and pattern he doesn’t have to travel far for parts. Meanwhile he gets to troubleshoot all the bugs on earth and sell his cool stuff to bored people with lots of cash to burn. Celebrate the differences. Old school cool vs new age shade.

@sabotabby3372

3 ай бұрын

Elon Musk builds overengineered vanity projects for the wealthy, not for people who have to worry about reliability or savings half of his projects are just poisoning the well to divert attention and funding from transit because that threatens his bottom line progress isn't made through wannabe tony stark figures blowing billions on vanity projects, its made through collaborative efforts which provide actionable solutions to real problems

Tesla truck is what happens when the iphone idiots try to build a better truck.....the edison truck is what happens when truck drivers and mechanics try to build a better truck....the tesla truck will not be able to realistically go logging.....the edison truck can go dry-vanning......one was conceived as a virtue signal.....the other because it should out perform whats currently the standard.

Sorry for unsubscibing but I came to your channel for your good videos and not TikTok shorts that you mostly like to upload.

@JD-yx7be

3 ай бұрын

you could just watch the longer videos he has a few recent ones over 30 minutes long. I am subscribed to dozens of channels many who i only watch a small percentage of videos from