Have had the 8203 blue dial for 4 years. It's so accurate, solidly built and reliable. Gains only 5s per day. 8203 doesn't hack but that's what gives it character in my opinion. I've put on a solid link, milled clasp, jubilee bracelet bought from Mark Long Island Watches and it has truly transformed it. The value these watches offer is unbeatable. They look great and like no other diver, are ISO certified and have great history with the Italian military. This and maybe a square G shock 5610 is all the watch anyone ever really needs.

This watch design has been real world tested down to 500m by the Italian military.

@sheepdog-kp9hb

22 күн бұрын

But I dont live in the real world

I have the 8203 version I purchased in the mid 90's and the latest 8204 version. The best dive watch for the money ever made. I own Rolex's and Omega Dive Watches and I'm proud to have this Citizen watch sit beside them. The robustness of this Citizen is amazing. I reckon in a tough test, the Citizen would match the Swiss watches any day of the week.

@dirk143

2 ай бұрын

When did the switch, I just bought a used one with 8203 on the dial but it has second hacking.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

2 ай бұрын

@dirk143 on the case back it has probably 8204 written 👍😉

This was my military watch and I did a lot of divers courses. All with the simple citizen. It’s a great reliable watch. Actually the ultimate field/dive watch. Put a nice canvas strap on it and it won’t give you troubles. Ever.

@sheepdog-kp9hb

22 күн бұрын

Steel there is no substitute

I always liked these better than the seiko skx personally.

Sorry they are aligning perfectly Pls talk about the movement on this beautiful citizens

Accuracy according to Citizen: non hacking calibre 8203 minus 10 to plus 20 seconds a day, hacking calibre 8204 comes with minus 20 to plus 40 seconds a day. Personal experience with two watches with 8204 calibre when worn 24/7 is that they are about 5 to 10 seconds fast a day, depending an amount of activity. Just my personal experience, be aware of this.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information!

I have that very watch and it's great, I would almost bet my life on it TBH! The BIGGEST difference between them is that the Citizen is still an ISO rated 'Divers Watch', the Seiko no longer meets that individual watch has been tested to 25% over the stated water resistance rating? My NY0040-17, is far better than the equivalently priced Seiko in quality and performance, I just love the 'Pro-master air tank' case, it's just amazing!

Best watch for the price. Have two of them. So easy to wear as daily beater. No alignment problems.

@Ferien7

10 ай бұрын

These often have alignment problems. Ask me how I know

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

@Ferien7 That’s sad

@OscarOSullivan

10 ай бұрын

Has it become Seiko bad

Mineral crystal = less glare and reflections. Sapphire crystals are ridiculously reflective, even with ar coating

@OscarOSullivan

10 ай бұрын

And not the best when it comes to shatter resistant

@knutjunker2019

4 ай бұрын

Depends :-) I have several watches with AR coated sapphire crystals and I can't complain about the legibility at all. On the contrary, sometimes you wonder if there is a crystal in there at all. And I have Seikos with single domed mineral glass that reflect as fuck. But i love them :-) Both, mineral and sapphire, have their advantages, mineral glass doesn't break as quickly as sapphire (which is better under water) and is cheaper to replace.

@LamarFaciane

2 күн бұрын

I agree, I find Seiko Hardlex to have great clarity.

I have bought this exact version almost 2 years ago, it's been a keeper in my collection and the only diver i have. Wear anywhere go anywhere type of watch. And very solid movement of Citizen which must be a standart.

LOL 4:55, I don't have just the 1 promaster I have 2 plebes- get out my face! LOL. I like your tone of voice during this review - very calm and steady, not hyper like I see on other channels with a new unboxing. keep up the good work 👏.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words!

Recently i bought a Ny0086 Coke with the 8204 inside (and 8203 on the dial) for my Collection. It became my everyday beater really fast. Unique design, accurate, perfect size, with rubber straps perfect fit and with a double domed sapphire perfect look. Currently my favorite watch.

@knutjunker2019

4 ай бұрын

PS: Bezel is perfectly aligned on my NY0086 (but i like the bezel design on the NY0040 better)

Fantastic watch , I own several of the citizen 0040 ( titanium , full lume dial ) a d I just ordered the one from your video fir 195€ before it's gone since you can't buy it directly from citizen anymore! Great video !

Dobry zegarek wygodny bezel a dalej się zobaczy. Parę dni temu kupiłem promastera w stali z bransoletą. Pasków nie lubię. Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Warszawy ❤🇵🇱

I have a NY0086 Pepsi fugu with the 8204 movement that I recently purchased. It’s an amazing watch and love it. My bezel lines up perfectly.

Lolol I was just looking at mine while watching this and noticed 2 things, the bezel insert is different on the new ones slightly (the triangle specifically) and the crown guards are unsymmetrical 🤷‍♂️😂 I love this damn watch so much, I got a well running one at +1-+4 seconds on the time grapher unopened 8204 movement I just got it 2 month ago. My cheapest yet some how favorite watch

@GadgetsforGentlemen

11 ай бұрын

I know right. It packs a whole lot of value.

I just got mine today my second watch( after my red casioak) it's a very amazing even though it doesn't hack.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

4 ай бұрын

Fantastic and affordable watch. If yours doesn’t hack then it has the movement Miyota 8203. The newer Miyota 8204 does hack.

I have the BNO 150 black version. It came on the rubber/polyurethane strap. Wore it for a month and just didn't like it. I ordered a stainless steel oyster bracelet from Long Island Watch ( BRAC 35 ). They make two versions specifically for citizen Promasters. Been wearing it for a month and really love it, life is good. This was an excellent and informative review.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

6 ай бұрын

Much appreciated and thank you for your feedback!

@kenamaro3942

5 ай бұрын

Citizen watches are criminally under rated..

@GadgetsforGentlemen

5 ай бұрын

@kenamaro3942 truth be told

Great review. This watch has incredible value for less than $200.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

11 ай бұрын

Much appreciated

@OscarOSullivan

10 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemenIt is a grail of mine I attest to CWC Admiralty Grey G10 NATO

Citizen should never give up this line, just keep refining it. Better movements, sapphire, etc. The NY0040 line is King in the entry level automatic ISO divers.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

5 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more! Would love a 38mm/39mm version too 🫡

@bunnys1980

Ай бұрын

Citizen did just that. It's now a 44mm iteration. Looking forward to buy the NY0140-80E It's sapphire glass and 8204 caliber. And there are the even newer versions, called the fugu line.

I have two myself. Bezels are great. 8204 is a nice movement too just “loud”. If the crystal seems to be a real deal breaker you can get a clear cover like what we put on our iPhones or other screws to prevent cracking and scratching. I’m actually in my second for my black NY040 as I smashed it on a door handle and the initial crystal protector did it’s job. Oh and yes I dive too but I I feel daily life in a rushed environment to always seem to cause more damage to watches so don’t downplay yourself as a “desk diver”…. It’s still keeping it real with a capable watch! Best!!!

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your experiences! I am also in my second NY0040 because of a big scratch on the crystal. No clue how that damage occurred lol.

@OscarOSullivan

10 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemenThe blue version of this watch is on my birthday list

@robertjakubczak9437

10 ай бұрын

​@@GadgetsforGentlemennie było Citizena promastera z szybą z szafiru? Mój ma szafir ❤️🇵🇱

@kevinong1735

10 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemenHave you considered sending your watch back into Citizen for replacement of the mineral crystal? 🤔

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

@kevinong1735 is that possible?

5:29 Misalignement @twelve 😱 Mine too…

Just received this in coke bezel version yesterday. This is my first Citizen watch. I noticed something that I don't see you are experiencing in the video - change the week date wheel smoothly. Mine gives strong resistant when the week wheel turn half way. I need to very forcefully turn the ctiwn to change it. However, if I stop forcing the turn and reverse the crown when the resistance starts, the wheel date will change to the next day. So I just turn crown half way and reverse the crown turning continously to keep changing the week day. Quirky and something I don't experience in ETA, Seiko, Orient mechanical watches. Neither do other quartz like Alba, Casio.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

4 ай бұрын

Congratulations with your new watch! Is it the movement Miyota 8204? Maybe good to check with your Citizen dealer?

@jouwenlee7829

4 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemen Bought from Jomashop. Would try to gather more user experience before deciding on whether something amiss (lemon). Thanks for the reply.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

4 ай бұрын

@jouwenlee7829 you are welcome! I guess when it keeps time and changes the date correctly it should be fine.

Mine is perfectly aligned. Make sure before you trash an excellent piece.

@CardScapeGame

5 ай бұрын

Yes but his is not aligned

@alicansunal3487

4 ай бұрын

​@@CardScapeGame Definitely, it is about how lucky you are but Citizen has less allignment problems comparing to Seiko. Seiko with 1000 usd Willard has allignment problems, this is a 230 usd watch and very understandable.

Fun fact: When Citizen got the contract with Italian navy they didn't test the watch for depths over 200m( rumor is that even 200m was never tested by Citizen before the contract),they just erase on the dial 200m and put 500m beacuse Italians wanted the watch with 500m capabilities for submarine purposes.Officers,crew of submarines wore this watch daily in operational depths of 300m without any malfunction,after that with word of mouth among navy NY0040 became the iconic watch!

@DFlemming

8 ай бұрын

It's an iso certified watch, it has been tested.

@gvoluto2816

8 ай бұрын

Selten so einen Schwachsinn gelesen, jeder Taucher schüttelt da nur mit dem Kopf. In einem Uboot ,egal welche Tiefe herrscht immer normaler ( leicht erhöhter) Druck. Millitärtaucher mit Sauerstoffkreislaufgerät maximal 6 Meter. Mit Pressluft ist bei 70 Meter Schluss und Trimextaucher wo es tiefer geht, hat das Militär nicht, weil sinnlos. Jetzt hast was gelernt und postest hoffentlich keinen Unsinn mehr! Übrigens sämtliche Uhren von Seiko werden in Druckkammern überprüft!

@vittoriobiondi4855

8 ай бұрын

Wrong information. The Italian nave bought a bunch of watches, upgraded them with different o-rings and other stuff, then sent the watches back to citizen and Citizen scratched away the dial text to print on it “Marina militare” and “500M”

Hola muy buen video es un reloj icónico que más que fama tiene historia militar tengo 2 el radiactivo y el azul que es el único que todavía conserva el nd límites saludos🇵🇦👍

I just paid 185 usd for my citizen and it came with the metal bracelet.the seiko 5 sells for 165 usd.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

4 ай бұрын

Very good value for money!

Promaster is my favorite diver,i got the pespsi with 8204 movt and the green titanium but be carefull because on the titanium version you have to change the spring bar if you want to wear it on a nato strap, you need curved spring bar because there is not enough space between the case and the lugs ;)

@GadgetsforGentlemen

11 ай бұрын

Fantastic watch!

I already owned a citizen a wad of more expensive Seikos and Citizens before I discovered this beauty and it’s a little sickening as it’s so bloody good I wish I’d went with it first. But that’s the joys of being watch fanatics I suppose.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

2 ай бұрын

Truth told 👏

Just got one bt the 8204 movement feels a lil too loud to me. Does urs make some loud clunky noise when u shake it as well?

@GadgetsforGentlemen

3 ай бұрын

Yes it does

Steel bracelet on mine because its masculine

Hello my friend great review. I’m try to get a hold of this watch in the uk. What did you search for to get this model with the new movement. Thanks Roberto

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir. I looked on Amazon Netherlands. The new movement is the 8204 I believe. The old one 8203. Each have pro and cons.

I have an SKX007 and a Kamasu and would like to add a Citizen diver to complete a set. Lovely watch but try as I might on this model at least, I cannot unsee the underpants at the 12 o'clock position but as a beater it should be fine

@Ferien7

10 ай бұрын

You just ruined this watch for me.., And I currently have one in shipping transit to me……

@terencemurtagh3189

10 ай бұрын

@@Ferien7 It’s an observation high listed in many of the reviews I’ve watched. Having pondered it I’ve since ordered this as it’s a fine watch and I consider it a quirk of the watch which if anything adds something to it. You’ll enjoy it when it arrives.

@OscarOSullivan

10 ай бұрын

@@Ferien7How endemic is misalignment?

@Ferien7

10 ай бұрын

@@OscarOSullivan Not sure but I have a suspicion it’s seiko bad. I’m going on my fourth citizen diver purchase. Returned the first three due to horrific misalignments.

@Ferien7

10 ай бұрын

@@OscarOSullivan I think citizen is following Seiko’s lead because they’re learning they don’t have to spend money on qc because the market will still buy up their watches anyway just like seiko fans do seiko watches. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Does this version with caliber 8204 comes with the yellow bottle as a box?

@GadgetsforGentlemen

4 ай бұрын

The one I got from Amazon came in a very simple black paper box without the yellow bottle.

You should get 37 mm and eco drive.

A misaligned bezel would drive me crazy I have OCD really bad!! It really ruins things for me because I notice every out of place detail ☹️

@GadgetsforGentlemen

5 ай бұрын

Same here lol 🤣

Hi, very nice video. Congratulations. May I ask you the seamaster reference? On the wrist which one suits the best for smallish wrist the seamaster or the promaster? Thanks

@GadgetsforGentlemen

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! The Omega I have is the new Omega Seamaster Professional Diver 300M. For a small wrist the Citizen or Seko Skx013 wears better.

@leonardocozza3140

6 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemen nice thanks. Do you think the seamaster is worth 30 times the promaster?:)

@GadgetsforGentlemen

6 ай бұрын

@leonardocozza3140 depends how you define value 😉

@leonardocozza3140

6 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemen can see your point. Would be interesting a video comparison though:)

@GadgetsforGentlemen

6 ай бұрын

@leonardocozza3140 Agreed. When I have spare time I might do it 👍😉

How do you do a watch review without any lume shot

@GadgetsforGentlemen

7 ай бұрын

Great point!

Is the new version with the 8204 movement also ISO certified?

@GadgetsforGentlemen

8 ай бұрын

I think so!

@wayneholmes637

4 ай бұрын

Ifca watch says something like "divers 200m" then it is normally an iso watch. If it says "wr 200m" or similar then it normally is not a dive watch an example being Orient Mako/Ray which are diver style sports watches.

Just want to check if anyone ny0040 has this strange issue.I found my watch day stopped at the other language at the time 8pm or am which when I turn would reverse the day from english to the other language instead of the other way and would only change at 8pm or am.After I turned my day to change it the issue stopped.

@GadgetsforGentlemen

7 ай бұрын

That’s weird

@JohnDoe-zo2xo

7 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemen Yeah it somehow reverse lol is back to normal already but I dun think I have done anything to make it like that

@GadgetsforGentlemen

7 ай бұрын

@JohnDoe-zo2xo Only thing I can think about is maybe something went wrong with the date changing. Never change the date when the hands are in a certain position. I always move the hands to 6:30 AM (precisely) and then date change. That way nothing can go wrong with the movement. There are videos on KZread explaining this issue further 👌🏻

@JohnDoe-zo2xo

7 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemen So far now the day date is running fine.If the date time travel again I think I will just send to citizen for repair 😂

@GadgetsforGentlemen

7 ай бұрын

@JohnDoe-zo2xo hope it will stay functioning flawlessly 👍

Hello, nice and detailed video! Just one thing: I've recently bought the same watch, with 8204 movement, but I've noticed a little discrepancy. The movement number stamped over the dial is still the 8203. That is a kind of annoying. What about yours, are you noticing the same thing? Thank you very much and keep up with the great work!

@Roughdraft214

11 ай бұрын

I don’t think they updated the dial when they switched. The case back would show 8204.

@kentrustee12

11 ай бұрын

Same here

@GadgetsforGentlemen

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words!!! On my new piece it also reads at the 6 o clock position 8203. On the caseback 8204.

@franciscoalmazanalhambra1143

11 ай бұрын

Same with mine.

@colinfdunphy3994

10 ай бұрын

@@GadgetsforGentlemendid not notice that until now I got it too

I just purchased the same watch and getting this itchy rash on the part of the strap just below the lugs. Argh..

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

Probably better to replace the original strap by something different like a real rubber strap, leather or NATO.

@Cr33pingdeath

8 ай бұрын

​@@GadgetsforGentlemenWhat I did is replaced the rubber strap with a stainless steel bracelet and this solved my problem. 🙏

@GadgetsforGentlemen

8 ай бұрын

That’s the perfect Michael Corleone ☝️

I wear my NATOs the other way round.

Bezel alignment concerns on a 200 dollar watch, get over it, it's just a beater. If it was on your SMP I would understand.

@Ferien7

10 ай бұрын

I agree to a point. If none of the hour and minute/seconds markers align, then you have a real problem

@user-jd4uc4xm2k

9 ай бұрын

I consider a cheap digital Casio a beater. Not a $200 watch.

What i dont like about the orient watches is that they're made in china. chinese watch = no value. That's why im going in for CITIZEN.

@nickschuster4254

9 ай бұрын

Orient is japanese

@dominicserafino6029

9 ай бұрын

This Citizen is also assembled in China using the 8204 movement which is made in Japan.

@kabirh3626

8 ай бұрын

They all made in china 😂

Nice but not sure about the watches with those short stubby fat hands

@GadgetsforGentlemen

10 ай бұрын

Thank you. Yes not something everyone likes.

Hand set is terrible

The new movement has worse accuracy?

@GadgetsforGentlemen

8 ай бұрын

Yes I think the tolerances of the 8204 are different to the 8203