Could you imagine a president's family and staff being basically the only voters and then said president loses DC? I'm dead just thinking about it.

@MarloSoBalJr

Жыл бұрын

Not gonna be a fun conversation at the dinner table on Pennsylvania Avenue

@davegreenlaw5654

Жыл бұрын

I believe that it could set up a serious paradox come election time, especially if there are not enough members of that district who are not holding a public office to be appointed as electors. (This means that the President can not be his own elector.)

@letsburn00

Жыл бұрын

There is argument that certain former presidents actually didn't want to win. It was originally set up to scam money.

@ganapatikamesh

Жыл бұрын

@@davegreenlaw5654 that’s an excellent point! Though the Constitution doesn’t say the electors of a state or the federal district must be residents of that state or the district. It says the state’s legislatures will choose the method and likewise that Congress will choose the method for the district. Though currently all states have laws that state they must be residents and Congress likewise has established that the electors of the federal district must be residents so it is indeed setting up such a paradox if Congress didn’t change any statutes.

@diorcolon8543

Жыл бұрын

That would give the president and his family more voting power than the Royal Family of many countries.

The president typically is not considered a resident of DC but instead maintains his or her residency from his original state, just like our members of Congress. This is why the sitting president always goes back to their home state to vote.

@loganiushere

Жыл бұрын

That being the case, what would happen to DC’s 3 electors?

@Gay-is-_-trash

Жыл бұрын

DC is the most woke city in the US.. Burn it to the ground!

@universenerdd

11 ай бұрын

@@loganiushere they would get thrown out likely

@dthomas9230

10 ай бұрын

If they change their voter registration to DC they're in.

@AlexEvans1

9 ай бұрын

@@loganiushere Good question. The President is also able to change their residency remember Trump entered as a NY resident, but in 2020 voted as a FL resident. That means that the President could choose DC residency.

There would not be 436 representatives. The total is set by law at 435. The allotment would be reapportioned between the 51 states.

@ThornesOddWorld

7 ай бұрын

at the next census yes, but until the census of 2030, it would be 436.

@Vortex1988

5 ай бұрын

​@@ThornesOddWorldWtf are you talking about?

@ThornesOddWorld

5 ай бұрын

@@Vortex1988 by law, congressional reapportionment can only happen after a census, however if a new state is admitted to the Union, they must have at least one representative. so the number would temporarily change to 436 to allow for representation then after the next census, go back to 435

@thegamerboytgb4350

4 ай бұрын

​@Vortex1988 he's not wrong

@RedXlV

3 ай бұрын

There's nothing to say that law has to remain in place. It's a really stupid law, too. It *should* be repealed, and the size of the House of Representatives significantly increased.

it may be easier to remove most of the federal district designation, return the land to Virginia and Maryland, and only have tiny enclave of a few federal buildings under federal control, not an entire city.

@patpat8727

8 ай бұрын

Nah. DC should be its own state. If Wyoming can be a state, DC can.

@dodgeplow

8 ай бұрын

@@patpat8727 but in this context, it's showing that people won't allow it. If I were a resident in DC (I live nearby but not in it) I would want an assurance of full representation now and not a pie-in-the-sky dream of statement that will likely never come in my lifetime. (edit for grammar)

@the500mphtortoise

8 ай бұрын

​@patpat8727 Wyoming is massive, states are not just based on population its a compromise between land and people with the ultimate aim to placate/prevent secession.

@homuraakemi9556

8 ай бұрын

This, except the Virginia land was already returned. It should simply be part of Maryland

@patpat8727

8 ай бұрын

no it shouldn't. DC has been administered and governed independently for more than 200 years. There has never been a political state or district just disappeared in this country.@@homuraakemi9556

Fun fact: The Pentagon isn’t located in Washington DC: it’s located in Arlington, Virginia.

@bababababababa6124

Жыл бұрын

Wait you mean not everyone knows that?

@ninjakitty5057

Жыл бұрын

Wait, people don’t know that, granted I live in Arlington so

@matrixace_8903

Жыл бұрын

That is technically true, but Pantagon have Washington DC mailing address.

@Juanguar

Жыл бұрын

@@bababababababa6124 well yeah not everyone lives in America

@pyropulseIXXI

Жыл бұрын

that isn't a fun fact. More like an obvious fact

As someone who's lived in DC my whole life, I'm glad you finally covered this topic. However, not being a state doesn't just mean DC residents have no representation in Congress. It also means that the federal government can basically repeal any local law they don't like that we voted for ourselves (This has happened a few times and is pretty fucked up tbh). We also don't have our own state prison system meaning that people who are convicted are moved across the entire country to federal prisons.

@scruf153

Жыл бұрын

you do know that you live on a military base it was federalize during ww2

@donelec5955

Жыл бұрын

@@scruf153 that doesn’t change anything they’ve said

@oecw124

Жыл бұрын

Too bad. DC was not meant to be lived in. Allowing DC to be a state opens it up to partisan politics and you don't want the capitol to be influenced by either party

@donelec5955

Жыл бұрын

@@oecw124 half of the capital was given to Virginia so idk what you by the capital will be influenced by an individual party if it was split properly like the map in the video showed multiple times; that you obviously did not pay attention to

@nickygionis6609

Жыл бұрын

@@oecw124 ok and? It doesn't matter what it was "intended to be". What matters is how it is now and we have a larger population that 2 states.

If the issue was about representation, the residents of D.C. would be willing to join the State of Maryland or Virginia. There isn't any need for residential areas to be included in D.C. so an easy solution is to make the district smaller.

@Jossarianz

Ай бұрын

Facts. No reason for DC to be separated

The whole point of a district for Federal activity is that it is not a state, that it is under the firm control of the federal government. It was supposed to house federal institutions and not much else. If it has become too populous to do this, then most of it should be handed back to Maryland. Keep enough to work as it was designed.

A correction. Carl B Stokes was the first elected African American mayor of a major US city in Cleveland. Cleveland at that time had around 800,000 residents.

@RoCK3rAD

Жыл бұрын

Wendover makes mistakes in a surprising amount of videos but we still love him

@RealLifeLore

Жыл бұрын

Walter Washington entered office as Mayor-Commissioner of DC on November 7, 1967. Carl B Stokes took office as mayor of Cleveland on November 13 six days later. Both tremendous achievements

@sakethrayudu

Жыл бұрын

@@RealLifeLore hi

@MarvinPowell1

Жыл бұрын

@Patrick Hudson It's a major American city, due to population. It's just not a relevant, popular, or desirable city to live in.

@xp8969

Жыл бұрын

🤔@@MarvinPowell1tell me you've never been to Cleveland without saying it, oh wait, you just did

Interesting fact, Guam, U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands also all have non-voting Representatives in Congress and Puerto Rico has Congressional representation through a position called a Resident Commissioner who also does not have voting rights.

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

That's correct. Although the non-vote Resident Commissioner and the non-voting Delegates can vote in Committee meetings if they're a member of said committee.

@davesprivatelounge

Жыл бұрын

they're effectively colonies

@brucesmith3740

Жыл бұрын

I heard was very pro Trump. So unlikely they will be ever allowed to vote.

@BorgKween

Жыл бұрын

Those areas are all colonized by the us.

@pcmdoubts3317

Жыл бұрын

Important fact is that they dont pay taxes

The federal district was carved out of Maryland and Virginia originally. The part across the river was given back to Virginia. If anything, the residents within the district should be considered citizens of Maryland as far as representation goes. Were out Capitol to ever move, it would be given back to Maryland and 10 miles square carved out of whatever state it was moved to. There's no provision to create a state out of what in essence belongs to Maryland. So no, it cannot ever be a state.

"One State to rule them all, one State to find them, one State to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them; In the Land of DC where the shadows lie."

@theanomaly2587

3 ай бұрын

LOL

@prdarlin

Ай бұрын

It would be funny asl if DC lost statehood again

Citizens of Washington D.C. get to vote for mayor for the first time, and they immediately vote in a guy named Washington EDIT: For the people saying that this is incorrect, 9:48 in the video blatantly explains DC residents were able to vote on mayor and elected Walter Washington.

@noahburns6042

Жыл бұрын

Great observation!

@CopyandPaste101

Жыл бұрын

That wasn’t how it worked bud 💀

@sonye-jin6737

Жыл бұрын

Washington in Washington!

@tesmith47

Жыл бұрын

President Johnson forced mayor Washington on the city

@Yelper_yelp

Жыл бұрын

@@CopyandPaste101 its called a meme ☠️☠️☠️☠️💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

Yes, the whole point of D.C. was so no state would host the nation's capital. Few people, aside from federally elected representatives and staff, were ever expected to live there.

@Dryltd

Жыл бұрын

Most capitals in the Eastern US followed the same principle of not being a major economic center and therefore not the largest city.

@commander8625

Жыл бұрын

@@Jtzkb yeah, I really don't get it. This is the obvious solution... you want representation? Go to a place where you get representation! I did see a comment that said that this idea was stupid because they don't want to be part of those states, but I really don't understand that perspective. If you see the solution, but don't take the solution, you can't get mad when you don't get what you want. Thats like saying that you want a sand castle, but when I hand you a shovel and bucket you throw a tantrum.

@roflcopterIII

Жыл бұрын

@@Jtzkb it also is the headquarters for many, many large organizations. If you're a large ngo, you have a DC office. If you're a large labor organization, you have a DC office. Religious group? DC office. Etc etc. It's definitely not just federal employees based there, a lot of other bodies have to be based there to help with federal partnerships and other functions. And beyond that, you still need all the usual things associated with a city. There's a ton of arts and culture organizations here, food and hospitality, etc. Plus blue collar workers of all occupations to keep the lights on. A lot of the folks coming in with hot takes about DC clearly have never visited or only spent like two days here as a tourist. Stripping it down to "just federal employees and a few grocery stores" is ridiculous when the bulk of residents are not fed employees to begin with.

@sky_skipper

Жыл бұрын

@@roflcopterIII It's only 10 miles squared. I board the DC metro at freaking Vienna. My Dad boards the VRE at Manassas. You can work in DC without living in DC. People can move if they want to solve the problem. Or, they can stop wanting to have their cake and eat it too and join Maryland. They're stuck in an awkward position, but they don't want a solution. They want to exploit it for political power.

@mishaf19

Жыл бұрын

@@Jtzkb “let’s move 700,000 people from their homes and leave an entire city abandoned to rot away, that’s a good idea”.

The proposed area of the state of Douglas should just be given back to Maryland. All problems solved, all people should now be represented, and political parties maintain their "balance".

The biggest issue with a state of Columbia is that it would mess up the nice even number of 50 states

@erkl8823

8 ай бұрын

Yes, we would have to carve out an evenly proportioned conservative state from the east of California.

@huy1k995

8 ай бұрын

51 is a prime number though. United, indivisable with liberty and justice for all yada yada.

@keiredwards7420

8 ай бұрын

@@erkl8823Or the liberal sections of every state?

@raketensven3127

8 ай бұрын

@@huy1k995 Do you even know what prime number means? Apparently not.

@systemfailure1129

8 ай бұрын

We would need new flags. A lot of new flags.

It would be interesting to see a similar video for Puerto Rico becoming a state too! Nice video as always :)

@badpiggies988

Жыл бұрын

I hear both republican FL senators support their statehood just so they won’t have to continue their ongoing exodus to Miami

@k8tina

Жыл бұрын

Tbh, I've always wondered WHY we never made Puerto Rico the 51st state. I would definitely be interested in seeing a similar video about Puerto Rico as this one about Wash DC.

@k8tina

Жыл бұрын

@SteamCat Thank you for the clarification and explanation. I appreciate it 👍🏻

@g.williams2047

Жыл бұрын

Puerto Rico has way too many issues to become a state. Corruption is off the charts. My favorite story is the warehouse of equipment locked up for one of their hurricanes to make Trump look bad. Let them become their own country if they want.

@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173

Жыл бұрын

Puerto Rico is one of 7 US territories, including Guam, Mariana Islands, Virgin Islands, etc

I think this is hilarious, because as Marylander, I often forget DC isn't just part of our state. Honestly the only way to tell that you're entering DC is that the roads get worse 😂

@jrbenson810

Жыл бұрын

D.C. is a real shit hole...

@aca2983

Жыл бұрын

In terms of drivers, DC and MD are indistinguishable.

@MrBoneFishie

Жыл бұрын

lol well I'm sure their Dem mayor and Dem city council are working hard to make the peoples lives better :P

@Michael-js6gp

Жыл бұрын

@@MrBoneFishie Doing their best with Republicans in Congress and sometimes a Republican president getting in the way. Did you watch the video?

@abinashmishra329

Жыл бұрын

That’s how I tell when I’m entering Michigan from Ohio 😂

It would make a really awkward flag with 51 stars

@HepCatJack

3 ай бұрын

They could put a Batman on the flag to represent DC

Thanks for the video. You obviously did lots of research! As a resident of Washington d.c. I think it sucks that I don't have representation in Congress! I had no idea that stayed had actually got so close to passing in Congress! I am a Democrat, but I can totally see why Republicans are not interested in having two Democratic senators added to the Senate. Having Maryland take back the land they gave for DC seems to make the most sense to me, but it sounds like they are not interested.

⚠️ CORRECTION - With all due respect to Walter Washington, the first African American mayor of a major US city was Carl Stokes, elected in Cleveland in 1967.

@ChrisAn5

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think Cleveland is a major city in most people’s eyes.

@WHATTHEHELL666

Жыл бұрын

Which Cleveland are you talking about?

@kaiseramadeus233

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisAn5 They had roughly the same number of people as DC did in 67

@VIPERJ27

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisAn5 trade on Lake Erie and had canals and railways

@barnettder

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisAn5 Uhmm...ok.

Minor correction: Detroit got a black mayor before DC, in 1974. And Cleveland got one all the way back in 1967.

@Davidsavage8008

Жыл бұрын

That's right.... Most videos like this have many mistakes.

@Pickled_Poet

Жыл бұрын

@David Bishop Yes, and comments are there to help provide corrections or additional information. One person can only give one perspective with so much knowledge. Thousands to Millions of people coming to a video provide many perspectives in the comments with even more information

@samreddig8819

Жыл бұрын

Cleveland shouldn't count. We set a river on fire.

@kiasersouzayxoxo

Жыл бұрын

@@samreddig8819 😂

@outrun7455

Жыл бұрын

@@samreddig8819 A fellow Reddig, we are a rare breed my friend

Great video but I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't mention that much of it is an endorheic basin. That kind of goes along with it being dry and aired and desert, but I think it kind of adds another level as to why a lot of it can't be farmed or inhabited.

@mrbrainbob5320

7 ай бұрын

There are over 700k people. What are you talking about.

@purpleWizard0

5 ай бұрын

​@@mrbrainbob5320he lives in 10th century

@wyattkemp5142

3 ай бұрын

I think he meant to comment on another video but auto play messed it up.

Why not make the federal district smaller like in the plan at 17:00, and merge the rest back into Maryland and Virginia?

@JamesRea2

4 ай бұрын

Virginia already had their land returned to them.

@JonathanMoosey

3 ай бұрын

@@JamesRea2so only Maryland would be gaining then. That wouldn’t be such an issue. The fact that Maryland wants nothing to do with absorbing DC residents tells you all you need to know about those who live in DC. There’s no reason a single city needs 3 electoral votes in a presidential election.

Interesting to hear about the failed amendment that would have given DC voting representatives in Congress without making it a state. I always wondered why that option wasn't really part of the conversation, not realizing it had been tried once and failed. It's kind of a weird quirk of our system that adding DC as a state is probably the easier route.

@calvinhobbes6646

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, except that is a terrible idea.

@Psycho-go5yr

Жыл бұрын

@@calvinhobbes6646 Agreed. This country is already divided enough as is. If this was truly about representation then becoming part of Maryland is a solution but no...they want to tip the scales democrat, that is the goal. NOT representation.

@sickrantorum693

Жыл бұрын

@@Psycho-go5yr If you cared about representation you'd get rid of of the electoral college. Don't pretend like you care about democracy. You care about winning.

@Psycho-go5yr

Жыл бұрын

@@sickrantorum693 your absolutely right I don't care about the democracy. I care about the Republic as the founders intended. People should have their say but mob rule is just as awful a prospect as an absolute dictatorship. People can be fooled into making absolutely terrible decisions in mass. World War II should be a clear example of that. The scary mustached man was voted in. As for losing, I absolutely can take a lose as long as it came about fairly. This crap about packing the courts, and adding new states to get more senators, and repealing the electoral college because it doesn't serve your needs is all about winning. Stop projecting your flaws onto me.

@nasifsiddiquey8867

Жыл бұрын

@@Psycho-go5yr If the only thing that mattered was the position taken by the national Democratic Party then yes, it would be about political power. But the actual people of D.C want their own state. They just happen to lean Democrat. If it was the other way around, the Republican Party would support statehood while Democrats would oppose it. Because of this, to create a logical solution, the political implications should be ignored and D.C should become its own state simply because the voters want it and there's no moral justification to keep the status quo while the residents pay federal taxes. Unless you want to exempt D.C taxpayers from paying federal taxes, which is another discussion.

Hey! One thing I noticed is when you said 41% of the residents are African American it’s actually not a majority but a plurality, A majority has to be at least 50% while a plurality is simply the most represented group. Great videos, keep up the good work!

@alexanderphilip1809

Жыл бұрын

A relative majority then. the effect is still the same.

@evanjones5571

Жыл бұрын

I think the percentage is actually 44.5%. I guess the right term would be largest demographic.

@gemstonesparkle7915

Жыл бұрын

Unless the other half is not a solid single group too, like percentages of other ethnic groups.

@rachaad

Жыл бұрын

One point it was over 80%

@Secondisotope

Жыл бұрын

🤓

Why doesn't Congress pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution that creates a new form of "capital district"? This “capital district” could be treated as a full state without being called a state and would avoid the problem created by the 23rd Amendment.

This has been super cool to learn about as someone new to the DC area. The Maryland option occurred to me years ago as the best choice, but I hadn't considered MD might refuse to take DC back. It has a precedence given how VA handled their half and still feels like the best option. Given that the overall number of congress/senate members won't change, this seems to be the least intrusive option. Balance and compromise will be the only thing that can sell this (if it is even possible). DC as a state feels impossible with all the Red states that would need to ratify the amendment.

Except that neither the President, nor the VP, nor any member of Congress is a resident of Washington, DC. They are legally residents of their states of origin, and must maintain their residences in those states.

@bananafoneable

Жыл бұрын

I know! why can't people understand this concept? Did they not learn this in school? Let me guess no one learns anything about government in modern school Washington DC was borrowed from two separate states. The concept of the United States being 50 individual states is lost in the 2020s

@Kozvick

Жыл бұрын

@@bananafoneable It's a failure of our educational system that people don't know about such a niche and inconsequential fact.

@Korandon

Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to figure out your point.

@bananafoneable

Жыл бұрын

@@Kozvickinconsequential as much as hearing about this every year for the last 100 years. No one's going to do anything about it. But it does drive voters. 🙄🤷‍♂️

@eclipse369.

Жыл бұрын

We don't need a president nor congress or much Of any of that totalitarian, authoritarian bullsheet.

The filibuster really is a confusing thing. A vote, to see if you should even vote, that doesnt have the same requirements, but harsher ones than the final vote.

@jetheotaku

9 ай бұрын

Originally the vote to pass a law was the same as a filibuster but during the 1st Obama term this was changed to a simple majority

@VideoSage

8 ай бұрын

@@jetheotaku Wish they had kept it that way, but never had the filibuster. If anything, one would have expected the filibuster to be an easier bar to entry, not hard, or the same.

@wissamkadamani

8 ай бұрын

It makes a little sense tbh. What is to stop a senator from talking non-stop thereby preventing legislation from coming to a vote? What if everyone in the Senate wanted to hear what he has to say?

@JDSeg693

8 ай бұрын

Its because the US is a republic, it has democratic elements but they are used in conjunction with three diffent branches of government with checks and balances to secure individual rights of it citizens, some of which is the idea of minority rights so a slim majority can't oppress a slim minority

@Babihrse

8 ай бұрын

​​@@wissamkadamaniIreland had a lad who did that back in the 19th century Charles Stewart Parnell had a seat in the house of commons in England as England was dismissive of his attempts to secure home rule for Ireland he just spent days opening up random books and reading them for hours aloud and nobody could stop him.

The rest of us pay taxes without representation too

Excellent presentation of quite the quagmire!

In retrospect it would’ve solved a lot of issues if they made it way smaller than the max 10x10 miles

@krozareq

Жыл бұрын

Very much so. Goes to show that the founding fathers of the Constitution were far from infallible. At the time it was probably fine since so few people lived there and it was built from the ground up. If someone decided to move to DC then they knew what they were in for. In addition, voting was only for land-owning white men anyways. Senators originally couldn't even represent their own states.

@notyou2353

Жыл бұрын

Like, 100x100 feet would've been nice(r)...

@patpat8727

Жыл бұрын

It's like the framers got some stuff wrong (a lot of stuff wrong) and we should fix it. But we don't fix any of it bc they made a lot of it very hard to fix without breaking the whole system (which is what we should do).

@juwebles4352

Жыл бұрын

@@patpat8727 If any of what you said happened it would spell a hundred dictatorships consuming what was once the Us like what happened to the soviet union after they fell. it would be overall negative for you and everyone who has to actually live here

@patpat8727

Жыл бұрын

@@juwebles4352 literally none of what you said makes sense.

Brazil took inspiration on the US concept of a federal district, however the Federal District of Brazil has representation in both houses of Congress, a governor elected by the district's voters, its own legislative assembly and the combined political and legal powers of both a state and a municipality. Plus, the Union is constitutionally obligated to fund many of the district's services, like the police force, which is really well equipped and well paid by Brazilian standards. So, here the controversy is about the privileged position of Brasilia when compared to the rest of the country.

@jackstar2662

Жыл бұрын

That’s fascinating.

@hashbrown777

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't get why the US finds it so hard. Aus has the same thing; Canberra is in the Australian Capital Territory, which isn't a state. They still vote. You don't need to become a fully fledged state to be able to vote, at the very least federally.

@nathan9901

Жыл бұрын

@@hashbrown777 you can vote federally in DC. If by federally you mean for president

@gustavju4686

Жыл бұрын

I see DC having that same issue if it becomes a state. Perhaps we can cut off the city from Federal funds apart from the fed government buildings in exchange for it becoming a state.

@riggs20

Жыл бұрын

@@hashbrown777 making DC a state is the right and fair thing to do. Everybody knows this, but the problem is politics. As he showed us on the charts, granting DC statehood is a very partisan issue. I predict it will only happen when and if Democrats have enough of a majority in Congress to pass the bill and avoid a Republican filibuster. There would also need to be a Democratic president so that the bill was not vetoed.

When consideration was being given to the admissions of Hawai'i and Alaska to the Union, the issue was supported because an equal number of Senators (2) and Representatives (1, each) - would be added to Congress - 2 Senators and a Representative from a Republican-leaning state, 2 Senators and a Representative from a Democratic Party-leaning state. In a burst of historical irony, Alaska was the Democratic Party leaning state, Hawai'i a Republican Party-leaning state - both of which have switched in the past 60 years. @18:06 Since the House is capped to 435 members, another state would have to lose a Representative in the addition of one from D.C.

I feel like DC should count as a state but not have any state laws.

I'm not american so correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the whole point in DC not being a state was cause it was meant to be the neutral/apolitical administration area

@rich7447

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Yet it has become a bastion of leftist ideology.

@carlengel8501

Жыл бұрын

Correct. You know more about American civics than most Americans

@ohari1

Жыл бұрын

Yes, however the population was never expected to be as large as it is.

@rcstl8815

Жыл бұрын

There you go understanding history and stuff.

@carlengel8501

Жыл бұрын

@@ohari1 What's your point?

Great video, but just FYI the number of House members would not increase to 436. The House seats would be reapportioned between the states, and some other state would lose a seat (because the statuatory limit is 435). Edit: My mistake. Apparently the DC Admission Act increases the House to 436 members.

@DrBeauHightower

Жыл бұрын

Correct

@jameslarkin4567

Жыл бұрын

This was due to something in 1929 no?

@somebonehead

Жыл бұрын

This needs to change.

@abdulmohid3519

Жыл бұрын

@@DrBeauHightower Your content is an absolute bruh moment.

@RealLifeLore

Жыл бұрын

Meant to say that it would temporarily increase to 436 until the 2030 census, where the seats would then be re-apportioned

Bro “No Taxation Without Representation” coming back 💀

5:18 Did you know that the KZread Mobile loading wheel is situated just about perfectly center of this square diagram you put here when not zoomed in?

I thought you made a mistake by omitting Rhode Island, but I was shocked to find that RI has about 2000,000 more people in it.

@jaredkennedy6576

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there's way too many people in that tiny state. A large portion of my family is from the Westerly/Pawcatuck area, and I'm always amazed at how built up it is there.

@Bsquaredplus2

Жыл бұрын

Wyoming may be big in area but it is very sparsely populated.

@chrismc2288

Жыл бұрын

We are the second most dense state only behind New Jersey

@swimmingmide

Жыл бұрын

Population density in the NE is crazy. Something like a quarter of the country lives in the NE but is split up by states in a weird way.

@jaredkennedy6576

Жыл бұрын

@@swimmingmide And there's going to be more as the west dries out.

This story skips over some of the history as to how DC became a “federal enclave.” During a meeting of the founders, a riot broke out outside the meeting. Fearing in the future that if a state was mad at the federal government, they would refuse to send police aid to assist, the founders wanted a way for the federal government to self-sustain. Hence, making DC not subject to any state. EDIT: a typo fixed and wanted to tell yall in the comments to be nice to each other! :)

@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly

Жыл бұрын

Ironic that this stance one day facilitated the president preventing military assistance on January 6th

@ninmastnunyabiz9404

Жыл бұрын

@@ClementWilliamstheoneandonly Actually, it was the Speaker of the House that prevented the military assistance.

@Gavin79746

Жыл бұрын

@@ninmastnunyabiz9404 odd considering only the president can deploy the national guard

@ninmastnunyabiz9404

Жыл бұрын

@@Gavin79746 Yes, and he offered, but the speaker has the right to refuse, the same way as any governor. In this case, Nancy Pelosi refused the offer of military assistance.

@Gavin79746

Жыл бұрын

@@ninmastnunyabiz9404 No such right exists. Stop getting your information from right-wing propaganda. The President is the commander-in-chief of the US Military. The Speaker has no rank

I'm in favor of giving DC statehood. But in the interest of maintaining an even number of states and ensuring everyone has a voice, I propose we offer statehood to Puerto Rico, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands. If they don't want to play ball, offer the same deal to American Samoa and the Northern Mariana Islands. Our outlier territories deserve the benefits of statehood.

@Thischannelwillgetremovedin321

7 ай бұрын

Puerto rico independent

@user-ts4yf3fe9u

6 ай бұрын

Like we wanted two more Liberal states. Counter proposal if we ate taking wishful thinking - split up NY and Michigans from the large cities and give it statehood in exchange for DC giving statehood.

How do I see the show notes? I want to check out that 80,000 hours site

You might note that the map in minute 4 shows the current Alexandria boundaries. When DC was created, it looked a quite bit different.

@kosjeyr

Жыл бұрын

On the Virginia side, you can definitely see the old borders of DC before the Civil War with how the cities are.

@dtvjho

Жыл бұрын

@@kosjeyr The Arlington County line follows the original DC border. The city of Alexandria grew over and obliterated part of that.

I've never heard the word 'unprecedented' used so much until I subscribed to this channel.

@DanCooper404

Жыл бұрын

And such weird emphasis on certain words snd syllables.

@DanCooper404

Жыл бұрын

And such weird emphasis on certain words snd syllables.

@FairyCRat

Жыл бұрын

@@DanCooper404 percccCENT mmmMAssive

@screwyourhandle

Жыл бұрын

You might say his use of the word unprecedented is, unprecedented

@rhubot721

Жыл бұрын

@@DanCooper404 CAWN-(griss)

I think there has been a slight slip-up in RealLifeLore's selection of images. At 11:11, a still is visible where I actually recognise 3 of the politicians! They are, however, not from the US. From the left, sitting behind the table, those are: Frans Andriessen, Prime Minister Dries van Agt, and Deputy Prime Minister Hans Wiegel, of the Netherlands! Their cabinet, Van Agt I, is however contemporary to US president Jimmy Carter's term. Quite a weird choice in the context of this video...

Preemptively looking at this reasoning with the question: "Is this a valid reason to take away democratic reservation for more people than live on several small states?" I'm expecting the answer is "No, don't be ridiculous."

I believe you are wrong about it increasing the number of representatives in the House. I believe the House is statutorily limited to 435. So one of the larger states would lose one representative and DC would gain one.

@nickbrown4696

Жыл бұрын

I believe the house changes seats and districts according to population often. Senators however stay static at two per state.

@kennynava7441

Жыл бұрын

@@nickbrown4696No, he’s right. It happened when Hawaii and Alaska became states. The overall number of representatives grew by 2 for a single term, and then after that two larger states gave up a seat for hawaii and alaska to have it. tye number of representatives wouldn’t change

@seancdaug

Жыл бұрын

@@kennynava7441 This is all true but, to be fair, the Congressional seat limit isn't actually Constitutional law, so it would be theoretically simple to amend. If you're going to convince enough of Congress to give statehood to DC, it's probably trivial to convince them to expand Congress by some token amount, comparatively speaking. (Which is to say, it probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes, but it's still more likely than getting everyone on the same page regarding DC representation/statehood.)

@DieselRamcharger

Жыл бұрын

@@nickbrown4696 you are wrong.

@headswillroll89

Жыл бұрын

@@DieselRamcharger nope you are. Senators are 2 per state. And 50 states. 2 per state..

Slight correction: Under the Reappointment Act, the House of Representatives is capped at 435 members. Unless an amendment to that law was to be enacted, a state would have to give up a seat. However, when Hawaii and Alaska were added, two additional seats were added until the next session, where it was reverted back to 435, so 436 may be possible until the next Congressional cycle after DC's admission.

@St0ckwell

Жыл бұрын

DC isn't getting admitted to anything. There would need to be a whole lot of "fortification" of states that otherwise have fair, first world elections. And plus, the powers that be don't want blood in the streets because a civil war is hard to have such power over as they enjoy today.

@1C3CR34M

Жыл бұрын

The DC admission act proposes more seats on the cap

@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong

Жыл бұрын

@@St0ckwell Honestly expanding the seats in the House is long overdue. The House is supposed to be closer to the people, it's hard to do that when House districts now have more than 700,000 people.

@r5LgxTbQ

Жыл бұрын

@@St0ckwell based

@theinquisitor18

Жыл бұрын

@@1C3CR34M, oh, neat. Thanks!

Fascinating and informative!

15:44 Promising to veto something isn't neutrality in the slightest! It's direct opposition!

I'm Australian. Our national capital - Canberra - sits - like DC in a separate territory - Australian Capital Territory or ACT, which is in the state of New South Wales. However - unlike DC - the ACT has it's own government with limited autonomy to pass laws. ACT residents vote in federal AND New South Wales state elections and are represented in both parliaments.

@brianestoll

Жыл бұрын

once it become very populous and leans in one direction politically it will suddenly "want" statehood

@bethdumont9020

Жыл бұрын

@brian stoll really? Are you one of the predominantly GOP MAGA crowd who sincerely believes left leaning people shouldn't be allowed to vote in an election? Or to be able to have a say about how their home city is managed. Here in Australia the ACT government is equivalent to the Ipswich City Council or the Brisbane City Council or the Dalrymple Shire Council. Pick an equivalent city or county anywhere in the US. In other words the ACT government is A LOCAL government. Not state or federal. As I said Canberra residents are represented in both those parliaments as well. Might I politely suggest you pull you head in and actually use that grey matter God put between your ears for the purpose for which it was intended - THINKING ABOUT STUFF.

@eamonreidy9534

Жыл бұрын

@@brianestoll suddenly? Such discussions have been going on politcaly since the late 1800s

@marksisto900

Жыл бұрын

Thus the Government ( workers ) gets to vote itself more money and power.. Do I want to give me money?.Yes please.

@bethdumont9020

Жыл бұрын

@Mark Sisto uuum - you do know that NOT everyone who lives in DC or the ACT or whatever the region round Ottawa is called actually work for the national governments - right? They're in ancillary jobs the serve the needs of the people working in national government jobs. They work in the shops that sell stuff to those people, drive taxis/user, they could be employed by the states of Virginia, NSW & Ontario as teachers & health care staff ( as well as working in those fields privately - private schools, medical practices), work in the tourism/hospitality sector. Honestly Mericans - you gotta get OFF this "government is the devil incarnate & shouldn't be trusted at all" kick. Government was, is and should be the body that keeps those who would infringe you basic civil and human rights in check via legislation and sanctions, can provide you with civic infrastructure like roads to drive on, public transport to use if you don't have a car/can't drive for whatever reason, bring you water & electricity and get rid of your body waste, provide education & health care, probably put up those early telegraph lines that became telephone lines then fibre optical cables that now also give you access to the internet AND allow you to communicate with peeps in other countries - like me in Australia. ALL this stuff was done either government itself at numerous levels OR by government owned & operated corporations AND designed to benefit ALL. Which - I think, anyway - is your problem - namely that government protects and supports people you don't wanna acknowledge have a right to exist in the first place - the LGBTIQ community, people with disability and their carers and people from non- white, English speaking Christian backgrounds. My advice to you is please sir - kindly go screw yourself. Thankyou.

DC residents: There are 700,000 people here who have no real representation in Congress! Puertorricans with 3.9 million people being a US colony since 1898: First time?

@jds1275

Жыл бұрын

Last I heard, Puerto Rico wasn't a state and probably the only place in the entire world an American can live and not pay Federal income taxes.

@007kingifrit

Жыл бұрын

puerto rico has voted no on statehood, thus they were offered representation and rejected it, D.C refused to return to maryland see? they don't want representation, they consent to this

@GalacticNovaOverlord

Жыл бұрын

@@jds1275 what drugs are you on you imperialist?

@A.Martin

Жыл бұрын

​@@jds1275 It is weird you can live in a US territory and not pay taxes, but go to another country and you must still pay US taxes (unless they have an agreement with the other country)

@anthonydelfino6171

Жыл бұрын

Puerto Rico hasn't ever voted in majority approval to apply for statehood until 2020. Though let's be honest there... Puerto Rico would face even more opposition in congress to statehood than DC. Partially due to racism, but even more would be the same partisanship. Not only would Puerto Rico be another strongly Democratic state, adding two more Democratic senators, but it would also have a higher population than 20 existing state, would would add several more Democratic representatives to The House. But if it can be processed through the House if/when the filibuster issue can be addressed (possibly even after the middterms this year) its admission could make it even easier for DC to be admitted, or vice versa.

The issue of statehood should be prioritized to Puerto Rico over the much smaller DC

The part that Virginia was "given back" is still vastly owned by the Federal government as far as its land is concerned- CIA, Fort Belvoir, National GeoSpatial, Pentagon, and of course Arlington Cemetery, the list keeps going. Also, the presenter is slightly off by his borders of DC- the Potomac River shared with VA is part of DC; as soon as you get to the edge of the river, you aren't in VA anymore and therefore, VA doesn't share a waterway like two states would elsewhere.

@makerpat

3 ай бұрын

Of the things you mentioned, only the Pentagon and Arlington National Cemetery are in the portion of DC that was retroceded to Virginia - that part is now called Arlington County and the City of Alexandria. The land that CIA, Fort Belvoir, and NGA HQ sit on is all in Fairfax County and was never part of the district. There are almost 400,000 people living in those two areas. But you're right about the MD and DC borders extending all the way across the Potomac (to the low tide line on the far side, anyway.)

Correction, the House would only be at 436 until the next Census, when, under the House Apportionment Act, it would return to 435.

@PersonManGuy

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow I forgot about the census 🤦‍♂️, good job on pointing it out!! 😁

@nunyabiznez6381

Жыл бұрын

Yes at which point either California or New York would have to surrender a seat to the new state. Basically a democratic congressmen subtracted from one and added to the other. So no net gain nor loss for the house. The big difference would be the addition of two senate seats both of which almost certainly would be Democrats which is most likely the biggest reason the Republicans will fight this tooth and nail.

@User31129

Жыл бұрын

@nunya biznez No, there's no telling what state that Rep would be deducted from. It would be one that was either losing population or gaining population by the smallest amount. Where I live, Michigan, despite gaining a small amount of people, nonetheless lost a Representative for I believe the third straight Census. In 1999, we had 3 more Reps than we have today. The House is mandated to stay at 435. The odds are decent that a Blue State will lose that Rep, but not guarateed.

@Topsapper

Жыл бұрын

Or how about we repeal the apportionment act and then just maybe we would actually have a chance of seeing our representative at the local gas station, grocery store or soccer game and wouldn't need to attend a $1000 a plate dinner to redress our grievances. After which maybe we can talk about the 17th amendment while we are at it.

@jeffbenton6183

Жыл бұрын

I should add that Congress has generally preferred keeping the membership of the HoR at an odd number so there is no chance of a tie (if every rep. actually votes). They would probably change the number in the event that a new state were added, if that would lead to an even number (and they would probably increase the number of reps. so as to solve the issue of a state loosing at least one rep.)

You missed huge portions of DC History; residents originally were allowed to continue voting in Maryland and Virginia elections (depending on what side they lived on). Georgetown, Alexandria and City of Washington all had elected Mayors until 1807 when all 3 jurisdictions were merged into the "District of Columbia." Between 1807 and 1973 there were several systems of governance including Appointed Territorial Governors, Appointed Commissioners and Appointed Mayors that returned to Elected Mayors with the establishment of the Home Rule Act in 1973. Further you are missing a huge point by calling it "DC City Council" and "local laws" because DC is part of no state; its "Council" (its name is Council of the District of Columbia, not City Council) functions as a de facto state legislature and its laws are the equivalent of state laws. Remember just because DC is not a state; doesn't mean that functions that are normally carried out by a state government cease to exist ( DMV's, Welfare, Insurance/Banking Regulation, Parole/Probation, State Superintendent of Education, etc); thus the Mayor of DC is equivalent to the Governor of any of the States and the Council of DC is equivalent to the State Legislature of any of the States; simply because it is not part of any state and thusly not beholden to state level government like the Mayor and Council of a regular city would be.

DC resident here: a lot of good Barack Obama’s “official support” of DC statehood did in 2009 when the Dem party had a House majority and 60 votes (enough to overcome a filibuster threat from the other party). As with many other subjects, the Democratic Party wants the issue to continue for campaign reasons rather than permanent solutions 15:45

There should be NO one living in D.C. who is not a government worker. Reminds me of a SCAM a teacher pull on my 3rd grade school friends. We played ball after school, one day a teacher offered to Umpire games. Three months later we were told we could no longer play because the school could not afford to pay the teacher for the umpiring job. So much for good faith services.

Australia has a “federal district” for its capital city Canberra. Except, states in Australia have 12 senators, and territories (like the Australian Capital Territory) get two senators. So the A.C.T still gets lower house and upper house representation. Just less than the Australian states.

@iamthinking2252_

Жыл бұрын

And just for those who don't like that, ACT rules can still be overruled federally eg voluntary euthanasia (for around... 20 years??)

@AndyViant

Жыл бұрын

Not "less", because it's not a state. The constitution defines rights that original states have that may be higher than other additions. If you want to talk about dudded locations, talk about Jervis Bay, which is a much closer analogue to Washington DC

@WhhhhhhjuuuuuH

Жыл бұрын

I was going to say this but you beat me to it and you put it much more eloquently as well!

@ozwunder69

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyViant maybe size but population wise?

@australiananarchist480

Жыл бұрын

The states actually have senators based on population. NSW has far more senators than Tasmania. Iirc TAS has 3 senators

The repeal of the 23rd amendment, should DC become a state or be annexed would be fairly easy to assume. Most states and or congress people would not like the idea of their state's power being undermined that way imo

@WickedMapping

Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling that whichever party lost an election would demand it be repealed, until they win the next one and they support it while the other party wants to repeal it.

@MemeMan42069

Жыл бұрын

Unless its convenient for your federal party much like the whole support behind it becoming a state anyways.

@jimmylivingston6338

Жыл бұрын

Unless your party is currently in power. Every election is current climate. Hardly anyone thinks of the future when the other party is in power. Case in point, the nuclear option in Congress that came back to bite the DNC in the ass when the GOP took power.

@Dryltd

Жыл бұрын

@@MemeMan42069 Facts!!!!

@shorewall

Жыл бұрын

@@MemeMan42069 Except the Presidency changes party every few years. It wouldn't be something you could count on.

I think, the US should look at how other federal republics with a capital under direct federal supervision treat that capital representation-wise. In Australia, the ACT (Australian Capital Territory) has full representation in the House of Representatives and "half" seat-wise in the Senate with the ACT Representatives and Senators having the same rights as the others (with the difference that the ACT Senators don't have as long as a term and are not elected in two classes). Also, the Northern Territory is likewise represented in the Australian Parliament. In Nigeria, the Federal Capital Territory of Abuja is represented by two Representatives and one Senator (States are represented by three). In Brazil, the Federal District (Brasília) is fully represented like a state in both chambers of Congress. Likewise in Argentina, where the Autonomous City of Buenos Aires is fully represented like a Province. Likewise in Mexico, where the Distrito Federal is fully represented. In India, the Union Territory of Delhi is fully represented in Parliament.

@KingAlanI

6 ай бұрын

Likewise, Berlin is a state of Germany - Bremen and Hamburg are also their own states so the capital isn't a special case in that regard

If they want representation so bad, then why doesn't Maryland just represent the residents living within DC? that land used to belong to Maryland anyways. The land that Federal buildings are on will just not be owned by Maryland. Also, I think a lot of Americans can tell you that no matter what state you live in, you feel like you don't have any kind of representation within DC. And one more point, no one is forcing you to live within DC. If you want to be represented so bad and that really matters to you, then move to VA or MD.

41% of African American living in D.C. would make them the plurality instead of the majority. I can understand why you used majority since it’s more familiar than the term plurality, which is the largest group among three or more groups. Majority is traditionally defined as more than half.

@mam0lechinookclan607

Жыл бұрын

literally 🤓

@talkytabby2878

Жыл бұрын

🤓

@konigstigerhart455

Жыл бұрын

🤓

@ppeez

Жыл бұрын

Yall are losers, this dude offered a fact that is both correct and interesting, i definitely learned something because of it. The nerd isnt him, its you guys

@_Super_Hans_

Жыл бұрын

nobody gives a shit

@4:20 actually DC residents did retain voting rights in their respective states until the Organic Act of 1801 and it could very easily be returned as was the plan in 2004’s DC voting rights restored act. This would put them into Maryland’s voting scheme while maintaining their independence from Maryland.

@bernardschmitt6389

11 ай бұрын

They would still have no government of their own as congress could still repeal laws they passes

@patpat8727

8 ай бұрын

So would DC have its own representation in Congress, then?

@R3TR0221

8 ай бұрын

So essentially it shouldn't have been a problem. But it was made a problem

@ZAUN3694

8 ай бұрын

@@patpat8727 It would have representation in Maryland, not a separate delegation.

@patpat8727

8 ай бұрын

that's the problem@@ZAUN3694

So long story short, a bunch of loopholes are the biggest problem in America, and it's the loopholes that create loopholes in trying to close them. And they'll never be closed ever.

Why not give DC back to Maryland? Keep the national mall and government buildings as the capital, and then all the residents have representation.

The way you solve the presidential voting issue is to have them vote as part of the state that they lived in before taking office. To me that's a no brainer easy fix, as they are not permanent resident of the white house

@jimthompson8947

Жыл бұрын

Too bad the godamn vote doesn't matter. Exampled just today in Arizona for governor seat announced TWELVE DAYS BEFORE ELECTION. And George W. Bush term 2 election - he was inaugurated before the Florida vote was counted, held back by Florida governor, Jeb bush, Little George's brother.

@Maya-ls3ky

Жыл бұрын

Problem is neither them nor the og states want that and how do you handle it if someone is born in DC

@KaitouKaiju

Жыл бұрын

@@Maya-ls3ky I think Pat is specifically talking about the president and other elected officials not the residents of DC

@xxxdumbwordstupidnumberxxx4844

Жыл бұрын

@@KaitouKaiju I think they're talking about if the President was from DC originally. I think in that case they'd just vote in DC - presuming that their residence (prior to becoming President) was DC.

@arthas640

Жыл бұрын

It's always bugged me how like 90% of politicians aren't from the states they represent and sometimes only moved there not long before running for office. I saw an old interview once where among other questions the journalist asked a retired politician "what made you move here?" And the guy said "the last politician was retiring and tapped me as a successor so I moved before his term was up, worked under him, then ran for his office." At the same time they always claim to understand the locals desires and pretend to be just like them even if it's an NYC politician running for the mayor of Houston.

1:27 federal income tax is the same across all states. It is based on income. So saying they pay more income tax than anyone else doesn’t mean they are treated unfair, it means they make more money than anyone else.

@mister_i9245

Жыл бұрын

I mean, it is unfair because they have no representation. No taxation without represenatation.

@TheDCGuitar13

Жыл бұрын

Not being able to use money you raise is unfair…

@spartanx9293

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDCGuitar13 by that logic we need to get rid of income taxes as a whole

@gustavusadolphus4344

Жыл бұрын

They chose to live in DC. You get MASSIVE benefits by living In the nation's capital (higher wages, massive amounts of government jobs, and political influence). If you chose to live in a place they was specifically designed around NOT being a state, them that's your choice.

@TheDCGuitar13

Жыл бұрын

@@spartanx9293 I don’t even care about being a state tbh. I just wish we didn’t have to tug uncle Sam’s pant legs to be able to do basic city maintenance when we raise more than a big chunk of states. The fed gov has bigger fish to fry and treats as such.

If the city wants full representation they should just be redrawn into Maryland. If DC gets to be a state, why doesn't NYC or LA?

Went from talking about politics to Beatles #1 single in US and cut me off by a Claritan Clear ad and now I'm putting my phone down go for a walk and question human existence

You know, it's pretty ironic how the 23rd Amendment- the thing meant to give D.C. more representation- is now one of the biggest obstacles standing in the way of FULL representation.

@thundershadow

9 ай бұрын

How anyone can say they lack representation is beyond me. They are the ones in the chambers!

@hamburgerhamburgerv2

9 ай бұрын

@@thundershadowthey aren’t.

@openmoviearchives7381

9 ай бұрын

@@hamburgerhamburgerv2 Give the residential areas back to Maryland. DC itself doesn't produce anything and has no unique history separate from Maryland.

@anankinskywalker6587

9 ай бұрын

@@openmoviearchives7381 The thing is, Maryland doesn't want them. And so DC is stuck in limbo, not having statehood and also not having any proper representation in the meanwhile.

@RedXlV

9 ай бұрын

@@openmoviearchives7381 DC has over 200 years of unique history separate from Maryland. And has a larger economy than most states. It's also unconstitutional to alter a state's borders without approval of that state's legislature, and Maryland flatly rejects being "given" DC. Presumably because if DC were returned ot Maryland, that city with 200 years of separate history from Maryland would become the largest part of Maryland (displacing Baltimore as the largest city). You're going to be hard-pressed to convince any state that they should absorb a city where none of the residents have any ties to the state nor *want* to have any ties to the state, yet those same residents would instantly become the dominant political faction within the state due to their sheer numbers. It would be like if the "compromise" to give Puerto Ricans representation in Congress without making PR a state was offered, of instead attaching PR to Florida. Florida would never go for that either.

Actually, IIRC, the 10 sq. Mile Area didn't become "Washington, D.C.", it just became D.C. Washington was just the name of the County (and a city) on the Maryland side, so until it was returned to Virginia, there were two Counties composing the District of Columbia: Washington D.C. and Arlington D.C. which is also why it has the weird double name to this day. That was my understanding anyways, please correct me if I'm mistaken!

@johngolden3714

Жыл бұрын

You're right except it wasn't called Arlington County, DC, it was Alexandria County. It wouldn't become Arlington until 1870 when Virginia decided that Alexandria City would separate from the county. Which is pretty common in Virginia. Once a city hits a certain size it separates from the surrounding county.

@KRYMauL

Жыл бұрын

@@johngolden3714 Wouldn't that by definition mean that a bunch of counties become Democrat due to Progressives overwhelmingly preferring cities

@jameslandolt5835

Жыл бұрын

The way I understand it - the District of Columbia was the whole 10 by 10 mile area originally laid out. So, similar to a state, all the sections within it would be referred to as part of the District of Columbia - like we do today (for example, Baltimore, Maryland). The District of Columbia was composed of Washington City (the seat of Government - one of the boundaries was Florida Avenue (then called Boundary Street), Georgetown and Alexandria which were already there as colonial port towns, and the rest of the area was called Washington County on the MD side of the Potomac and Alexandria County on the VA site. There were also a few small villages, settlements within the 10 mile square area. So originally Washington City was naturally called Washington, DC. Over time the VA part was retroceded to VA and the MD side unified as it was settled into one larger city. This means, at time went on they had to change a lot of local street names in places like Georgetown and Anacostia (for example, in Anacostia in about 1908 Harrison Street became Good Hope Road). So the name Washington, DC makes sense as it would be confused with a lot of other places if it was just "Washington" without the "state" designation. Make sense?

@johngolden3714

Жыл бұрын

@@jameslandolt5835 Yeah, that's correct. Organic Act of 1801 is what created those counties and put DC under Congress's control. The Organic Act of 1871 consolidated Georgetown, Washington City, and Washington County into one entity.

@KenLinx

Жыл бұрын

Why would you say "um actually" and then say "I'm not entirely sure"?

Simple way to deal with this is the government of each state which makes up the district of Columbia get counted by the state that where they reside. Those in Virginia cast votes for Congress in Virginia those whose house would be in Maryland vote in Maryland. Same for residents voting for president. while the rest stays the same other than they vote for the city offices in DC rather than Congress appointments.

My dumb brain said "Wow, D.C (Dark comics) is becoming a state? Wow, I can't believe they got that popular"

To be fair in regards to the whole last five minutes, typically presidents vote in the states that they previously resided in. For example Joe Biden still votes in Delaware and Trump voted in Florida

@savemgs

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought that was a bit strange myself considering they are non permanent residence.

@blakekaveny

Жыл бұрын

Like how Oz can run in Pennsylvania even though he lives in New Jersey

@codymills2393

Жыл бұрын

@@blakekaveny that’s it’s own can of worms

@pizzasteve5825

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and I also think that congress would be pretty quick to repeal the 23rd if DC became a state since the president having that much power would benefit nobody.

Would love if you did one of these about Puerto Rico, USA Virgin Islands or Guam becoming a state please 🫶🏽👍🏽

@ColonizerChan

Жыл бұрын

Ngl, plenty of others have covered the topic. Then there is the fact yall have voted on that in PR a few times before. Yeah somethings def awry

@tunatofu63

Жыл бұрын

Yes definitely let these territories become states with all the protections that come with it!

@Labyrinth6000

Жыл бұрын

@@tunatofu63 nope, last thing I want is to give my political rival more political influence and guaranteed victory spots!

@vivianaortiz9404

Жыл бұрын

Viva Puerto Rico Libre y Soberana. Long Live Puerto Rico Free from American Imperialism.

@hihellohi5714

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I was waiting for someone to comment this

As a former DC voter who has thought a lot about this: DC should be returned to Maryland.

This is a non-problem. The solution is for Congress to forbid the construction of residential housing within the borders of the District. Over time, as old housing ages out and is demolished, the population will necessarily move to the nearby States, making the matter moot.

@randomperson9732

3 ай бұрын

And how long is that gonna last?

@markhagerman3072

3 ай бұрын

@@randomperson9732 Indefinitely. The District is so small that there's no real reason for anyone to live there. Those who work there can easily commute.

@randomperson9732

3 ай бұрын

@@markhagerman3072 But right now you're denying reality. People do indeed live there, and as you said, your plan will last indefinitely, so people will basically live there forever. Without appropriate representation. That's unfair to those people.

@markhagerman3072

3 ай бұрын

@@randomperson9732 Just living that close to the seat of power gives them more "representation" than anyone should have. Here's another alternative; move the national capital to a different city every ten years.

@randomperson9732

3 ай бұрын

@@markhagerman3072 Lmaoooo, that gives them literally nothing, what is this cope?? And moving the capital city? Do you have a single brain cell?

Man I already see RealLifeLore's next videos: How Puerto Rico became the longest running colony in history Why the Philippines didn't become a US state How America maintains its maritime empire Why the United States hasn't passed a US Amendment since 1992 (which was about how Congress gets paid btw) How the two party system broke America

@omarbradley6807

Жыл бұрын

The ERA for example remains there up for aproval since the 1970s,

@TransportSimulatorNationTSN

Жыл бұрын

This comment should have been pinned😆

@uhohhotdog

Жыл бұрын

+

@finish_my_projects

Жыл бұрын

@@TransportSimulatorNationTSN no it really shouldn't, there's a very good reason none of these things have happened, and they never will... too much power at stake

@alexrogers777

Жыл бұрын

@@finish_my_projects exactly, republicans would start losing more and they simply won't allow that

Honestly, it should either become a state OR the states that donated the land are the ones to represent those people in congress, while the feds still manage it outside of congress. Citizens there could be both DC and Virginia/Maryland citizens (respectively).

@f.f.6323

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I said. That would make too much sense and crooked politicians wouldn't be able to use or attempt to use the situation to their advantage as easily.

@deathsheir2035

Жыл бұрын

Since Virginia took back the land it donated, it is only land given by Maryland that exists in DC. Therefore they should all be given Maryland State Citizenship, and be allowed to vote in Maryland's elections, with the understanding that Maryland's Govner has no power in the DC area.

@Maya-ls3ky

Жыл бұрын

@@deathsheir2035 Problem is they don’t want to be part of Maryland and Maryland citizens don’t want them back They shouldn’t be forced into being part of a state that they nor the state wants just because Republicans are scared shitless of not having power

@ifbfmto9338

Жыл бұрын

@@deathsheir2035 I fully agree We’re not giving the leftist scum two more senators, never If they want to MERGE DC into Maryland, fine 🤷🏼‍♂️

@seancdaug

Жыл бұрын

@@deathsheir2035 Problem is that opinion polls have consistently indicated that DC doesn't want to be thrown back into Maryland for representation purposes, and Maryland doesn't want to represent DC. The two places have been culturally and politically distinct for well over two centuries now, and it's frankly not fair to either to ignore that. It would be no different, fundamentally, than telling North and South Carolina that they had to recombine. And, more to the point, it's not actually legal. You can ignore DC because it's not a state and doesn't have any sovereign rights under the Constitution, but Maryland does. If Maryland doesn't agree to take on DC representation, there is no way for the federal government to force the issue. And there's honestly little reason for Maryland to agree to it even if they were actually getting the land itself, let alone telling them that they have to represent the citizens of DC while not having any power over the area inhabited by them.

I think there is a law or amendment to keep the number of representatives at 435 if there were to be more states.

It wouldn't permanently change the size of the House of Representatives to 436, because it's set by law to 435. It was temporarily increased to 437 following the admission of Hawaii and Alaska, but was brought back to 435 in the 1963 reapportionment following the 1960 census. Of course, this law could be changed (and really ought to, the number of constituents per Representative is frankly ridiculous, at over 700k, which is about the total population of the most populous state in 1790, Virginia, including the slaves) with a simple Act of Congress, since it's a regular law and not an amendment.

Even without the filibuster, Joe Manchin said he’d only support DC statehood through a constitutional amendment, so it would fail 49-51 in the Senate.

@awesomeferret

Ай бұрын

It would probably fail with a larger margin. There are still democrats that aren't raging bigots. Not every Democrat would vote for DC statehood.

You explained that in the 1993 vote all the house Republicans voted no to DC statehood, which makes sense, but you didn't go into why the Democrats were split. What was the reasoning for the portion of Dems who voted no to statehood?

@svenjorgensenn8418

Жыл бұрын

Because the 51st state would only be a blue state. Every other state switches between republican and Democrat. Back in the 90s democrats were moderate, now they are leftists.

@Maya-ls3ky

Жыл бұрын

Half of Democrats were still Dixiecrats until the mid to late 90s

@arthas640

Жыл бұрын

People gloss over stuff like that alot. They'll focus on most democrats or most Republicans voting a certain way but gloss over when a party is split. In 93 nearly half the democrats voted against it as well, not just the Republicans. This reasoning really only adds to the partisanship problem in America since the focus is ALWAYS on highly partisan issues and everyone is always making every issue a partisan issue. It's a big reason why the COVID laws were so fucked up, Republicans were focused on opposing rules and relief while democrats were focused on supporting the laws and relief regardless of how they felt individually. Just look at the anti vaxxer issue: before covid became so partisan there was a decent mix of democrats and Republicans being against vaccines with if anything a Democrat majority, then covid happened and Trump became an anti vaxxer so now suddenly the Democrat anti vaxxers shut up or became wholehearted vaccinatera

@456myer

2 ай бұрын

Probably because it’s still unconstitutional

If we are entertaining a new state, can we bring up the State of Jefferson too?

I think the Chief of Naval Operations also lives in the Federal District at the Naval Observatory. He would also have a few staff members that live their also.

@boxedfridge7943

4 ай бұрын

Isn’t that the VPs Residence?

The reason D.C. pays so much in Federal taxes is that D.C. also has all the Federal jobs that benefit from the Federal taxes from the other states... I live in the DMV area and the 1st and 3rd richest counties in the nation reside in this area. It's not coincidence.

@VanceWorldTravel

Жыл бұрын

What you said, and all of the local and state taxes the rest of us pay, are actually counted as federal taxes in DC. So while his comment in the video is 100% accurate, it is misleading. A spin game to drive a biased point.

@davidguiney1746

Жыл бұрын

I don't get your point. Yes a huge amount of jobs in DC are federal jobs, but those employees pay the same rates in federal taxes as the rest of us

@ludicerX

Жыл бұрын

I'm not even sure what your point is. Federal employees still pay federal taxes. The fact that they have federal jobs (which isn't true for every resident) doesn't change the fact that they're taxed without any say in how much they're taxed and how their tax dollars are spent. A federal job isn't charity.

@lordblazer

Жыл бұрын

Most people that live in DC work in the private sector bro.

@lordblazer

Жыл бұрын

@@VanceWorldTravel naw, DC residents have to pay local taxes tooo. DC has a local income tax on top of your federal income tax.

I'm always impressed by how the US can be so cleverly built, as a country, but, at the same time, so complicated.

@texastuna

Жыл бұрын

It's not clever at all

@itzamia

Жыл бұрын

@@texastuna The way it's structured from the town's mayor's to the States Governors it is managed by design all the way down to the districts in each county to the whole state to the entire country as a whole. It is cleverly built.

@SDguy3030

Жыл бұрын

It has to be complicated, theres a reason why the founding fathers did it this way as opposed to a real democracy.

@JWinterhaven

Жыл бұрын

@@texastuna Its very clever. Its just not very democratic. But the institutions are perfectly crafted to do what they are doing: Holding a bunch of elitist people in power while pretenting that they sit on an ejection seat.

@shotelco

Жыл бұрын

You get impressed too easily.

Washington DC residents really need to support Puerto Rico's cause for statehood and have both go through congress and House of Rep.

There should not be any residence in DC aside from politicians. That way those citizens can vote.

17:50 I love how you used 49th highest population instead of 3rd least.

@dougwade1332

Жыл бұрын

Yeah sounds like a propagandist

@alexrogers777

Жыл бұрын

@@dougwade1332 so humor is propaganda now? lmao lighten up

@edt1138

Жыл бұрын

He slanted more than a few facts in this video.

@Insert-thing-here-Fan

Жыл бұрын

@@alexrogers777 my brother in Christ, he was just saying that it sounded propraganda-like

@tbraghavendran

Жыл бұрын

Are you not an Indian my dear 🤔

Kind of reminds me of Old Swiss Confederacy, when there was the idea of adding Konstanz. The city cantons where in favour, but rural ones strongly opposed because it would add another city canton, which traditionally had more power in domestic and foreign policies. In the end the idea was dropped, when Konstanz more or less sided with the Emperor in a conflict between Habsburgs and Confederacy.

Puerto Rico deserves statehood way more than Washington DC

This is all quite confusing. In 1978 Congress voted to give DC 2 Senators & 1 Congressman but this need a constitutional amendment and the states rejected it. So 20 years later it was decided DC can simply become a state and get the 2 Senators & 1 Congressman and this does not need a constitutional amendment. It only needs to pass in Congress and be signed into law by the President. Why didn’t they just do this 50 years ago when it was a lot less contentious than it is now? And doesn’t this feel a bit like trying to undermine the other states in the full knowledge they wouldn’t get 3/4ths approval for a constitutional amendment to allow DC to have the 2 Senators?

fun fact: in Brazil the capital of the country doesn´t have a governor because of its size however citizens have pretty much all rights to vote for mayor, representatives etc.

@tomshea8382

Жыл бұрын

It also has a government building that looks like a breakfast table, so don't go nutzoid about how awesome Brasilia is.

@rodrigonogueiramota4433

Жыл бұрын

@@tomshea8382 I didn´t say Brasilia is awesome I said that unlike Washington DC people in Brasilia can choose their representatives in fact many capitals around the world can do the same

I'm sure that if D.C. statehood were to pass, Congress and the states would very quickly repeal the 23rd amendment, as it would be completely ridiculous at that point.

@eyissmajor114

Жыл бұрын

ah yes, because the US government is known for its competency.

@ricklarsen7477

Жыл бұрын

Haha, that's not how congress works. They still need to allow states to legalize marijuana, get rid of daylight savings, and a bunch of other things. They'd probably just choose to ignore the 23rd, like they ignore the marijuana laws.

@farmergiles1065

Жыл бұрын

Sure, because the government is never ridiculous, right?

@hernandayolearyallda

Жыл бұрын

Nope, gov'ts would let it stand, the states are incompetent and want more power.

@PhantomBanker

Жыл бұрын

More likely it would be dead-letter law and considered moot.

Sounds like a slippery slope, Next Nor Cal, then we all break off. Maryland gets it.

@rebeccalassetter1726

8 ай бұрын

The entire area should just be absorbed into Maryland.

Why not just give them a representative but not make them a state? Just like how the Vatican City has a representative in the U.N.