The Bible is Not the Word of God | Atheist Experience
Tracie and Matt discuss why the Bible is not the Word of God, but put together and edited by men.
This is an abbreviated segment from The Atheist Experience #483 of January 14, 2007 (topic: "Old Testament Gods"), with Matt Dillahunty and co-host Tracie Harris.
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Teaching the history of religions to children is one thing. Teaching a specific religion as the word of a God is abuse.
4 жыл бұрын
More and More, Geoffthebull, I believe this and agree with you. LOOK AT THE RESULTS of teaching children that ONLY the buybull is the word of God and ALL OTHER spiritual beliefs and all other philosophies are evil, ignorant and won't improve society. But these other things do!! Critical thinking, science and asking questions is healthy. But for centuries, as Christopher Hitchens as once said, people were intentionally and inadvertently KEPT IN THE DARK by church leaders...resulting in unnecessary suffering and wars and pain and discouragement.
@meghansullivan6812
3 жыл бұрын
Yep yep yep
@curtisfranks1882
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. It's a form of mental abuse.
@curtisfranks1882
3 жыл бұрын
@Viktor Tandofsky too bad you can't prove that is factual.
@jukeboxjey5035
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah is it? Where is your proof? What was first the egg or the chicken heighnn??? Mr. Enlighted youtube incognito???
"No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it means what he says." George Bernard Shaw
@chadrasmussen1154
5 ай бұрын
What about the quran
@chadrasmussen1154
4 ай бұрын
Also I believe the bible but ya there are other religions
@Checkeroute
20 күн бұрын
Muslims take the Quran for what it says Explicitly therein
This is amazing. I have only became an atheist the last 2 years and watching this made me realise that I never questioned how the bible was compiled and formed. I didn't need to know that to become an atheist but I do find it amazing that I never questioned it. But then again as Tracy says this is instilled into you from a very early age so its not surprising that Christians never questions things like that.
@marleyrobertson6417
10 жыл бұрын
You know I started to wonder if maybe it wasn't like she said in the video, as far as how the Bible was put together. So I went to Christian websites and like always, they just gloss over how it was put together, not really going into detail. Then I found a documentary on how the books all got put into the Bible, and low and behold, it was like I was starting to think. But yeah, we are just told it magically got put together by the holy spirit. That some mysterious group of holy men put it together or something, told by angels on one stormy day, and what order they are to go in. Now I'm sort of like "CRAP!!!" in a way. Because I still believe in a God, but what do I do now? lol
@TyTye
10 жыл бұрын
The hardest part is admitting you don't believe. I worked Sundays, had sex before marriage etc and didn't feel guilty about it even when I was religious because its not relevant anymore. If I was a true believer I would have never have done those mundane things that are apparently bad. I drifted away and before I knew it I was ready to admit that I was no longer a believer.
@brianb9969
10 жыл бұрын
check out the book 'bable bible' it will give you a full picture of how the bible came about
@TyTye
10 жыл бұрын
Shall do
@skatergirl12rox
10 жыл бұрын
Toxic Dogma No, I just can't agree with that. Not all religions are the same. The main three, Islam, Christianity and Judaism all have more in common than others. But they do have slightly different practices. And the many others that have been around much longer are all VERY different. In MANY ways. They all outdate the bigger three, and have many or sometimes no gods and goddesses. There is a big difference between organized religion and other paths.
Youre all spelling bible wrong. The new way to spell it is Buybull because thats what believers are doing.
@gunmonkey2570
8 жыл бұрын
I like that. It goes along with my way of spelling doG. "The doG of the Buybull" my new slogan. :)
@gunmonkey2570
8 жыл бұрын
Or maybe ALL the christy websites.
@gunmonkey2570
8 жыл бұрын
Yea...but think of the fun we can have. :)
@maximem.ste-marie3578
6 жыл бұрын
oh man! this one is good.... Also, I am pretty sure they were so high af that they imagine a supposedly all powerful being/enitity/whatever and they had no imagination and took one of the most common animal ever and just inverted the name and named it God
@davidhatcher7016
6 жыл бұрын
al zolez lolololol
As far back as I can remember I never believed in god. I remember being very young in a store with my sister and I said god isn't real. She kinda consoled me and told me I shouldn't say that because people would get mad. My parents never told me what to believe, they just didn't talk about it at all. I remember asking my mom what church was like and she asked me if i wanted to go. However I declined because it didn't sound like a good place and Homer Simpson never wanted to go. So basically I was raised to think for myself and I have never even been able to even comprehend how there could even be a god. Christianity and any religion for that matter just seems so obviously fictional and makes Star Wars seem 100x more believable. So now whenever I see someone with a cross on or anything it makes me think they are delusional and somewhat unstable. I don't take anything they say seriously and avoid them. Its a prejudice I have because I cannot understand how a rational, critical thinker can believe in such absurdities.
@Yamyatos
9 жыл бұрын
***** I can only hear unsupported bullshit coming out of your mouth. Thats one huge argument from ignorance. Next please.
@zzyplza
9 жыл бұрын
***** Wow man, just wow.
@DavidHeffron78
9 жыл бұрын
***** I sat for five minutes and tried to create a teacup with my mind. Nothing happened. What am I doing wrong?
@moodyplus
9 жыл бұрын
Brian McCracken Great story.
@DavidHeffron78
9 жыл бұрын
All depends what you mean by "smarter". I know loads about computers but fuck all about plumbing. Smarter is a context driven concept.
atheists are more honest with themselves and not afraid to think
@angelabanks6667
6 жыл бұрын
🙏🏾
@nuoiptertermer4484
5 жыл бұрын
+Scott Humphreys Atheists aren't rare. Atheists are very common. European countries, China, and Japan are mostly atheists. Religion isn't just an excuse. It's the only motivator in some immoral acts people have done.
@raysalmon6566
5 жыл бұрын
JudeBoys atheism is a victims philosophy this show is about puting your brain in a box
@raysalmon6566
5 жыл бұрын
Sepheryn isnt 98% of the world theist?
@raysalmon6566
5 жыл бұрын
Iloveapplefritters and would you consider the 600 hospitals that the chatholics own and operate a bad thing?
The mind is like a parachute, both work best when open.
@Oskurrrt
9 жыл бұрын
and both may fail you horribly like getting your brain and parachute ripped in half.
@ricardovonkrypton8908
7 жыл бұрын
Evan Cabral Silva And if you don't use them, 'faith' will not help you.
@evancabralsilva93
7 жыл бұрын
I meant open to the idea of god not existing"
@robertoberuffi1394
5 жыл бұрын
You mean rather that they need to be open because otherwise you're going to die. A closed parachute and mind = certain death. Not being open to the truth that God exists and that you are meant to have a relationship with him and that he is awesome and trustworthy is tantamount to not trusting in the parachute. You will not have an exhilarating and awesome life giving experience . You will miss out for you are not open to 'seeing' the world from God's perspective, which is the wise thing to do, and the ultimate outcome will be thar you will certainly also die.
@davidstarks3308
5 жыл бұрын
Roberto Beruffi Stop making statements or claims that you can't prove!
This one is a gem! Sadly, as soon as Tracie and Matt start telling the truth, Christians plug their ears and go "lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala"
@Oskurrrt
9 жыл бұрын
Out of all the comments i've seen, this one takes the cake for being the most stupid one.
@hitchslap8802
9 жыл бұрын
OceanicBuzzer Your Mom said you take the cake for being the most stupid child she's ever know, too.
@chronicler2313
8 жыл бұрын
+Hitch Slap Dillahunty lost a majority of his debates.
@hitchslap8802
8 жыл бұрын
Matt Black How do you quantify a loss? If you are a delusional God believer, he automatically loses? Oh, I see.
@chronicler2313
8 жыл бұрын
Hitch Slap Delusional coming from someone who believes his brain is an evolved meat machine. Your worldview doesn't account for rationality pondscum.
"How was the Bible created?" is a question that has not been asked nearly enough by most Christians.
@patrickburns4821
2 жыл бұрын
how is grass created? i want to know how it's created NOT how it grows
Ur right the bible is not the word of God , it is the word of the men who wrote it , men say it is the word of God but in reality its man's word they try to make u believe it's god word ,the bible & religion is man made god is one thing religion is another very differnt
@john-oh9cr
8 жыл бұрын
God is an idea in their heads .
@jeffcaffrey70
4 жыл бұрын
Explian how you know you're right. With facts. Not watching the davinci code and thinking it's fact.
@jeffcaffrey70
4 жыл бұрын
@@john-oh9cr explian how this idea is less logical then nothing creating everything. Unless you believe in magic isn't it more logical to believe something created you. Since you have never seen nothing create something let alone everything?
@FreakinFred08
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcaffrey70 if a god created us, then what created god?
@brysonclark6568
Жыл бұрын
Men wrote the Bible but it is inspired by God
If a person is born deaf and blind how could this person ever tell if there is a god or not? Do they simply go straight to hell?
@coyhampton3087
8 жыл бұрын
+Bengan Yes, they do. Also, the bible says that if a man's testicles have been crushed, he is not allowed into the church.
@Gadget-Walkmen
8 жыл бұрын
lol really? Does it actually say that? Which verse?
@davidappleton1971
6 жыл бұрын
Bengan. Please be more specific. I say that because that describes theists as well
@OP-1000
6 жыл бұрын
Coy Hampton . Literally or metaforically?
@SkeetAllMighty
6 жыл бұрын
@@Gadget-Walkmen Does it really need to say it. Its implied if modern interpretations are right. You must accept jesus he died for your sins. How could a person who couldn't hear, see, or feel ever learn that. Nuff said
If the creator of the universe were to communicate to mankind through a book, surely the book would be filled with spiritually uplifting and enlightening stories rather than the brutal and bloody tales contained in the Old Testament. It would be written in a language everyone could understand and be simple, straightforward and completely free of ambiguity without the need for interpretation by God's supposed "chosen" prophets. Why did God choose to reveal himself in an obscure corner of the middle east when he could have waited a couple of thousand years and reached billions through the medium of television or via the internet? I'm sorry, but the Bible is no more the "Word of God" than last week's edition of the Beezer. The very idea is an absolute joke.
@sngscratcher
8 жыл бұрын
Well said! Couldn't agree more. Cheers.
@kodijames6277
8 жыл бұрын
There 'was no' internet or television 2000 years ago. Other than that...your logic is 'right on'.
@lookatmepleasesir
8 жыл бұрын
It's not an obscure corner of the middle east, the jews lived among the most important empires in the ancient world. "If the creator of the universe were to communicate to mankind through a book, surely the book would be filled with spiritually uplifting and enlightening stories" it is. And how is the bible not written in a language that is simple and straightforward?
@kodijames6277
8 жыл бұрын
+lookatmepleasesir The 'language' is simple and straightforward... but the way that it is 'presented' is CONFUSING. In other words...there are 'passages' (in the Bible) that have to be 'interpreted'...because they MAKE NO SENSE to the 'average' reader (which describes 99% of us).
@lookatmepleasesir
8 жыл бұрын
Kodi James what are some examples?
The bible is one of the earliest examples of comic books.
@taffysaur
8 жыл бұрын
It has no illustrations. It's just an example of a book.
@adrianmyers6429
8 жыл бұрын
+davids11131113 It has true history in it
@Mornys
8 жыл бұрын
+Adrian Myers So does Indiana Jones. There's little truth behind every good lie. Just because there's some truth doesn't make it all true.
@adrianmyers6429
8 жыл бұрын
It's all true
@Mornys
8 жыл бұрын
Adrian Myers Talking snakes, talking bushes, talking donkeys, walking on water, and on top of that it's contradicting itself. It simply can't be all true.
News flash MAN WROTE EVERYTHING.
@danyellwar77
4 жыл бұрын
But those other books arent claiming to be the infallible word of god. With instructions to change your life. Like in Leviticus.
@lois1737
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man wrote the Bible but they were men of God who were filled with the holy sprit
@darapgoat
3 жыл бұрын
@@lois1737 🤣
@davegonnaway6007
3 жыл бұрын
@@lois1737 provide good evidence for this claim please...
@kelseykjarsgaard5774
3 жыл бұрын
@@davegonnaway6007 you cant it all depends on holy spirit
These early atheist experience vids helped me to lose my Catholic faith. Tracy and Matt are the reason for my free thinking mind. So awesome.
@Longtack55
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine that - not having the freedom to think.
@lynettekomidar2819
2 жыл бұрын
me too
@njohn6995
Жыл бұрын
Jesus didn’t come to leave a bible. He came to leave a church.
@YY4Me133
Жыл бұрын
@@njohn6995 There's no credible evidence that Jesus existed.
When Tracie said he was "the first person to build a canon", did anyone else picture some guy building an actual cannon, for a split second?
this video clip should be shown in every church
@lorditsprobingtime6668
5 жыл бұрын
@steve Webb. Huh? You obviously enjoy word salad. That made zero sense.
@davewilliams5102
4 жыл бұрын
pinoy Good luck with that! They would "nail" you at the door! (Pun intended)
I don't get why intelligent people were ever Christian in the first place. As a child i was sent to church by a religious family and from school years I knew those magic things were not real and could not believe it.
If some persons or person was so “chosen” to have spoke to god and write this down then why are billions of people here not special to get that same feedback? If Jesus is the chosen one why did it not have Jesus as the author on the Bible? Nothing makes sense how can I believe something I have no evidence of?
It was actually my study of the ancient world and early Christianity that made me an atheist rather than science, so I relate to this video. Like Tracie, I figured this stuff out on my own, but I could have saved quite a bit of time if I'd known that there were people making this information available on the internet.
Thanks for telling the truth.
@biro24
8 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@TariqNavabiGaming
5 жыл бұрын
gowd sake everyone knowsbthis
@Metalhead98793
4 жыл бұрын
gowd sake he was a brown dude who spoke Aramaic
As a fellow ex-theist, I can relate that a Christian doesn’t “quote the bible”, but rather we would “quote” the gist of what we were told in church, in Sunday school, in catholic school, among relatives, etc. For a Christian to say “the bible says” didn’t actually mean that the person had looked up that chunk of information in the bible, but rather was dutifully quoting what had been taught. It was presumed to be one in the same.
@Tuoni996
11 ай бұрын
There's a reason there are so many different sects of Christianity. Because they ask interpret the Bible differently and THEIRS is the correct one...
@chadrasmussen1154
5 ай бұрын
I don't even know what to believe in anymore
I wonder how these 288 people managed to dislike this clip with their index fingers so deep inside their ears...
@dericanslum1696
6 жыл бұрын
&Not2Yield ...nose...do it all the time...
@petyrkowalski9887
2 жыл бұрын
La la la…I cant hear you
Why on earth would anyone wait decades to half centuries after the supposed death of this jesus guy to document his birth? and why are christian gospels the only documentation out there? you would think that someone somewhere would have documented it, walking on water, healing the sick, feeding thousands.... kina interesting stuff. one would logically conclude that some third party somewhere would have written this stuff down. but they didn't not one...
@kbPhionex
10 жыл бұрын
same reason it took 80 years to get the tales of king arthur
@normanberg9940
10 жыл бұрын
For your information there are at least 5 independent contemporary historical references by different authors, to Jesus, including the well known Jewish historian Josephus, from whom we know much about this time in history and no scholars challenge the authenticity of Josephuse's documents. Who informs us that Jesus was a real historical figure. Being a Jew of those times however, he did not have many nice things to say about him.
@NecrochildK
10 жыл бұрын
Iron/Pacifist They haven't had any evidence that King Arthur was an actual living person in history either.
@mattmcneice4546
10 жыл бұрын
norman berg the only references are half sentence mentions of Christians and Jesus's name. No mention of what or who he was...
@kbPhionex
10 жыл бұрын
NecrochildK which part of my point
I consider myself very intelligent and skeptical. Were I indoctrinated from a young age (I wasn't) and not taught skepticism (I thankfully was) I don't think I'd independently question that belief structure from within. If I'm brutally honest with myself I can't guarantee I'd have avoided it. Those like Tracie who moved past indoctrination to non belief deserve far more respect than someone like me who simply was never taught to believe. Far more.
They might not be something every fan likes but Tracie's lectures have always been my favourite part of the show
@lockhack
6 жыл бұрын
I agree. She is by far my favorite.
Finally! An Atheist Experience video without the comments disabled! Why do they censor most of their videos????
@TylerWardhaha
9 жыл бұрын
Because people preach, spam, and threaten, rather than discuss things. Read their description.
@ringo666
9 жыл бұрын
Where have you been looking? I've been commenting on TAE video clips for MONTHS now. In fact, I have YET to encounter ONE with a comment section closed or blocked.
@TylerWardhaha
9 жыл бұрын
Clyde, look at the more recent ones. The past couple of years have the comments disabled.
@ringo666
9 жыл бұрын
Sorry, you're wrong -- I've commented on clips from 2013 & 2014. Maybe it's the people POSTING them -- there are a TON of them out there.
@TylerWardhaha
9 жыл бұрын
You've got it there. The official channel blocks comments on all the videos from the past couple years.
Trying to reason with Christians by asking them why the bible is the word of god is like the *"Brawndo's got electrolytes"* scene from Idiocracy...
When I ask my mother about men writing the bible she said "the men were filled with the holy spirit when they wrote the bible and put together the bible" oh my!
@michaelannen4168
6 жыл бұрын
Curtis Zeisler they were full of something all right
@jmcadoesvids359
6 жыл бұрын
Curtis Zeisler so the holy spirit also made them exclude books from it?
@DarkSideOfTheBrightSide
6 жыл бұрын
They were filled with "spirits" alright, the same spirits me, and the guys are filled with every Friday at the bar.
@sofiadeleon6200
6 жыл бұрын
They were high af when they did that 😂😂 that's what filled them not the holy spirit
@isaaclee1005
6 жыл бұрын
The Holy Spirit does not tell lies.
it's really strange that many people don't know about this, we studied this in first grade literature class in high school in Hungary. in a country with so many Christian people it should be part of a history or literature class
Watching this in 2022. Great video. I got out of Christianity in 2017. Via Bible study. I always wondered who chose the books that went into the New Testament. I was always skeptical of the answer I got from basically any Christian leader. This video was made on 2007. I was still knee deep in Christianity. Do I regret it? No. Because I know the mindset of so many Christians as a result comparing how I felt about Christianity in 2007 and How I feel know. NOW! I give both of these presenters a standing ovation and don't disagree with them one bit. My 80+ year old Christian theologian friend my Christian parents. Still in Christianity. I cant even reason with them about it. THANK YOU "The Atheist Experience".
@pavel9652
Жыл бұрын
I was never religious. I attended church because my parents made me do it to complete paperwork. I also attended religion in school, because it was mandatory, but I never cared about it. Once I reached the age of 18th, I dropped off. I have been always into astronomy, and at about age 20-25, I got even more into science and practiced critical thinking. It was the final nail in the coffin and there was no turning back! I learned a lot since then, also from this show! A lot of adults can't reason at all and have a hard time during logical arguments on mundane topics, not to mention religion. They commit basic fallacies such as strawman, etc. At one point, I was briefly under the mild influence of a religious girlfriend. From perspective of time I can say her arguments were laughable! ;) I heard HORROR stories from people that were deeply indoctrinated, though.
The number of people who refuse to think for themselves is staggering.
~ A decade later, and this is still interesting and elucidating - thank you ACA & TAE!! Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
it would be interesting to know the actual language was used for the 1st bible. I guess that either emperor Constantine kept : Aramaic or maybe used latin. But it seems that there is no original book anywhere? However, for the little i know, no bible was ordered by god but rather put together by man for different reasons
I really wish people would not just speak but add evidence,quotes and citations
Thor rules, I saw him just last year. I do fear The Hulk!
@damianjonsson1688
10 жыл бұрын
All praise our Savior Stan Lee! His books must become our Bible, and shall be studied as the word of God! All others are heretics, and shall be crushed by Mjolnir, by our God, the ALMIGHTY THOR, who sacrificed his Godhood so that he could understand humanity's plight. His ascension back to Godhood be praised!
@GeneralZod99
10 жыл бұрын
Damian Jonsson I am General Zod. Your ruler. Yes, today begins a new order. Your lands, your possessions, your very lives, will gladly be given in tribute to me, General Zod! In return for your obedience you will enjoy my generous protection. In other words you will be allowed to live. As for this "Superman".... Come to me, son of Yahweh, if you dare! I defy you! Come and kneel before Zod!
@JW-hk4zi
10 жыл бұрын
Thor also wielded a hammer and jesus was nailed to a cross. Coincidence?...
@Cleretic
10 жыл бұрын
Do not fear the Hulk. He couldn't lift Mjolnir, but Thor can. Thor is mighty, Hulk is merely "incredible".
@Forensource
9 жыл бұрын
From the rainbow bridge of AAsgard.
"No one can answer the god question correctly. "Do you believe in God"? "No". BOOM! Dead. "Do you believe in God"? "Yes". "My God"? "No". BOOM! Dead".-George Carlin.
@stephenschultz3471
6 жыл бұрын
"My God has a bigger dick than your God!"
Thor had a hammer, Jesus was nailed to a cross, nuff said.
@bailandoism
10 жыл бұрын
Please use a little more logic and reasoning when discussing these matters.
@SeRoAnthem
10 жыл бұрын
bailandoism jesus promised the end of wicked men thor promised the end of ice giants i dont see many ice giants around pwnd
@bailandoism
10 жыл бұрын
Eventually there will be no more wicked men. When Jesus reigns on the Earth for 2000 years.
@SeRoAnthem
10 жыл бұрын
if he does ill be the first to start guerillaing his ass edit: though by that logic id probably be a wicked man eh
@richardbryan6134
10 жыл бұрын
bailandoism What if you're wrong?
Even when I was a 'born again christian' for a short while I had doubts deep down about it all and I had a lot of questions about contradictions in the bible etc, I just didn't know how to express those doubts effectively to other believers and my friends who believed to get them to ask the same questions, so when I tried, they put it down to my being 'confused by the devil' and being silly 'asking childish questions', I wasn't actually a child but I was at the time just a bit too young and inexperienced to stand my ground on it in those days so even though I'm sure that I was right to doubt the bible and ask those questions, I always ended up losing these arguments, of course, now I'm a lot older I wouldn't be such a pushover for them or anyone trying to shove the bible down my throat, I have to take some responsibility myself too because after all, it was my choice to go along with it even when I was unsure but I blame the bulk of it on being misled by people that I shouldn't have bothered to listen to. I know exactly where Matt is coming from because I was more or less the same, in my case it wasn't a fundamentalist church it was a pentecostal denomination that I got involved with, I had the same ambition though, I wanted to be a minister or pastor as they called it, I had the best of intentions in wanting to do what I thought was the right thing, namely spread the gospel but I needed to be 100% sure myself before I could comfortably tell others and this is where my doubts began to manifest themselves, I just had to speak up and try to express those doubts, it was partially the harsh way I was dealt with just because of asking questions that made me realise the whole thing was no good, anything that discourages a human being from thinking, reasoning, questioning is almost certainly always a very bad thing, the minute you hear anyone tell you 'don't question it just accept' take this as a classic sign that it's false, truth and reality will always stand up to any scrutiny, if god is really there then this god shouldn't have to depend on unquestioning faith to be effective, that's just absurd.
@georgeb00th2
10 жыл бұрын
God doesn't depend on our faith at all. We know we sin [Romans], we know we are alienated from God, it is at this point the atheist would say the feeling is culturally imposed make it go away by positively believing the feeling is not real, there is no God. Believing "I have not sinned" , or I make no mistakes, usually not effective in dealing with alienation, as atheists are usually moral. Those who repent, even the most reprobate, to God and turn from their sin find forgiveness and reconciliation. God's wrath against our sins was borne by Jesus on the cross and paid for in full (resurrection). The alienation wasn't just a feeling. PS> you only need a little faith, not a complete understanding of the universe.
@JohnCashin
10 жыл бұрын
larry lommel Yes but the point I'm getting at is that this God has not confirmed his existence to me so I don't know for sure whether guilt is culturally imposed or God imposed, I have no way of knowing for sure until this God shows himself and confirms it to me, so far he has not, sure I could choose to believe it if I wanted to, I can choose to believe anything but what I can't do is rationally justify it, let's say for arguments sake this God does exist, is God prepared to give me a rational justification for me to believe he exists?, if so then that's all I'm asking for, I'm waiting!
@ringo666
9 жыл бұрын
larry lommel - please tell me you don't really believe that; you're justifying ignoring knowledge, accepting ONE book, and looking at the world through rose-colored BLINDERS. I'll go easy on you, and not tell you how I can DESTROY what that book says.
@georgeb00th2
9 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for going easy on me! Technically, the Christian view is anything but rose-colored. "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Who ever has the Son(Jesus) has eternal life whoever does not have the Son does not have eternal life and the wrath of God remains on him." Strive to enter by the narrow Way, the way is wide and easy that leads to destruction and many will follow that path." Since you have destroyed your Bible, could you gve me 3 books still in your library? That you Know are the Truth?
@ringo666
9 жыл бұрын
larry lommel - I know all about that, born & raised in the church. Took 50+ years to see the truth, though. 3 true books? Rachel Maddow's "Drift", Adam Richman's "America the Edible", and David Walsh's "From Lance to Landis". As a bonus, I'll throw in a fourth -- Keith Olbermann's "Pitchforks and Torches".
It's very admirable that Tracie spent all of that time researching how the Bible was put together when she was still a fundamentalist Christian instead of just assuming that it was legitimate and brushing it off.
This is fascinating stuff. It should be required study for all the fundy/creationist types.
FYI, King James also wrote and published a book called Daemonologie. This is a book in 3 parts which covers how to recognise Witches, then how to control, remove the demons etc.
@tealx2014
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
I like the intro/outro music. I checked out Larry Gallagher's music from the links. Nice. Thank you.
If there aren't other gods, what is the christian god jealous of? Why did it say not to put other gods before it? Other gods? Okay.
That was great. I love it! LMAO!!!!
heretic (n.) mid-14c., from Old French eretique (14c., Modern French hérétique), from Church Latin haereticus, from Greek hairetikos "able to choose," the verbal adjective of hairein (see heresy). In other words, "heretic" is a compliment, meaning "being able to think for yourself".
I am sad to see that the society has a deep need of such a show. And not only in the USA.
It was nice to hear Tracie's story :)
I BELIEVE IN ZEUS APPOLO AND POSEIDION
These atheists sound more spiritual and truthful than Christians. Maybe they're God's chosen and they don't even know it.
@Charlotte4Short
8 жыл бұрын
(takes off glasses) My God.....
@wunnell
6 жыл бұрын
Heaven is the place that god sends you if you prove yourself smart enough to not believe all the religious misinformation available.
@lorditsprobingtime6668
5 жыл бұрын
@BabyUcon. I never thought of it that way before. It makes very good sense in many ways though. I don't believe there is a god but, if there is this could be his way of sorting out the naturally immoral so called christians who follow everything in that stupid incomprehensible ancient fairy tale book written by M E N , NOT any god. Those stupid enough to waste every seventh day going to a church when their god is supposedly everywhere and praying and praising this character because this stupid book says this perfect being demands his followers do this idiotic crap says a lot about how stupid these followers must be to think any of that would be important to any sort of perfect being. Only a very vain and extremely flawed personality would expect any of that. If he was real then that may be his test of worthiness, if you're stupid enough to think such a being would really want them doing that crap then he's NOT perfect, he's not even remotely close to it. There we go, by logical thinking we've proven that religious people are the ones either going to this imagined "hell" or at the very least their NOT going to continue on in any form whilst decent athiests who do good whilst not expecting some sort of everlasting life will actually be the ones up there partying with your god and laughing at all the idiots who followed that old fairy tale.
I'm imagining Tracy descending into the basement of the UCF library like Gandalf..
God did not create man. Man created god.
"Heretic is just a label that the big church puts on the little church". So true.
The bible is a boring book that not only doesn't make sense but it is way too dusty to take seriously. It is a bad sign when things never change it get revised because we sure do.
The more I think about it, the claim that “god wrote a book” is just a nonsensical claim that people accept because the society around them also accepts it.
Why build a canon before gunpowder was invented?
"You like my god? No? Boom!" -Jacque Fresco
The word bible is a Greek-Latin word (biblos) [βίβλος] and it means "books." Its purpose, for catechism Greek-Latin word (katho) [κατηχέω] and it means "principals". So, the bible is a book of allegoric principals used to guide the christian beliefs as a religion and nowhere was it intended as a book derived from any "divine wisdom" nor to explain and define reality.
@SxVaNm345
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are mostly correct. "The Bible takes its name from the Latin Biblia (book or books) which comes from the Greek Ta Biblia (the books) [βίβλος] traced to the Phoenician port city of Gebal, known as Byblos to the Greeks. (Writing and books became associated with Byblos because it was an exporter of papyrus used in writing) and the Greek name for papyrus was bublos, linking the city with the written word. Although the Bible is often considered a single, cohesive, work, it is actually an anthology of ancient writings by many different authors over many centuries, 'in three different geographical locations' (My added words) which were collected in a single book. The Bible contains works of poetry, religious-themed narratives, 'actual historicity, parabolic morals, stories with basic key principles to help guide your life with, and learn from' (My added words once again lol) philosophical musings such as The Book of Ecclesiastes, epistles, and the apocalyptic masterpiece known as The Book of Revelation.": - This piece of information was taken from the first bit of writing, on the top part of the page from this website --> {www.ancient.eu/bible/.} As for the linguistic origin of the word 'catechism' (katho) [κατηχέω], while that is the historically correct origin of what this English word meant, that doesn't mean that is all the Bible is limited to. I mean, just because some certain linguistic origins of some certain man-made English words had a very specific definition... That doesn't mean anything else, other then just that. I am also not sure if catechism, was just entirely limited to just the Roman Catholic branch of the Christendom tree, at some point in history. But even if it was or wasn't, that still doesn't mean that was/is the whole or only meaning of the origin of the word 'catechism'. In a way, while this may also just be my own personal, and subjective opinion, I also think this is just you arguing over your own perspective, or interpretation of epistemological semantics. TL;DR, Long story shot: - The Holy Bible is *_STILL_* the morally objective (The standard dictionaries define good as moral excellence, in the very first definition of the word 'good'), and absolutely true (I say this because it is the only book, that corresponds and correlates well with reality to the 100 percentile) Word of God!
@thebookdragon8662
6 жыл бұрын
"I say this because it is the only book, that corresponds and correlates well with reality to the 100 percentile" - Are you joking or high?
@TheTruthKiwi
5 жыл бұрын
@@SxVaNm345 You had me until you stated that it's morally objective and correlates with reality. Unproven gods aside do you think slavery, rape, incest, demeaning women and homosexuals, murder and genocide is moral excellence?
Are there really people who believe the original Bible was written in English
I believe in God, but I find myself doubting the Bible.
@brucebaker810
5 жыл бұрын
Bible's not the only "god book". Also...deism. Less nutty than Xnity. But also even less demonstrable. Well...less than "not"? Uh...
I truly appreciate that you talk about these important concepts and you are correct the Bible is just the "word of men"...not the inspired "word of God". Bravo!
@combatives
9 жыл бұрын
Ad hominem attacks just doesn't cut it and it is immature...if you have a point to tackle get on with it!
Dude get your facts straight, Christ was an American and bible is written in American.
@joe4316
7 жыл бұрын
Jesus was British.
@lordcumquad
7 жыл бұрын
Jesus was an alien from 420 light years away dude.
@zemoxian
6 жыл бұрын
cap'n swaginton Jesus was from *420*? Tell me more. Lol
@John17230
6 жыл бұрын
Christ was of medium build and height, had a beard and wore robes but he was brown because he was Indian and part Pakistani, but they hide this fact because they are racist.
@Hillers62
6 жыл бұрын
'Merica...fuck yea!!!!
Don't forget the *very first Commandment* was "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." This proves that even God (as written by a human author) admits to the existence of other gods. It doesn't claim anything to being the only god, just that he wants to be #1.
LOL nice one, may I put that on a T shirt?
🤗 i knew the 'holy books' weren't from god by the age of 9. soon as i found out people wrote em', it was a wrap. i mean, come on. really? gimme a break.
You can't make up a book and claim it to be the holy moral words of a timeless lord, then fix its fallacies and resubmit it as the new holy moral words of the timeless lord. Religion has got the fools by the balls with its made God, Adam/Eve, Noah's ark, virgin birth, resurrection, walking on water, and turning water into wine stories.
@bloodrain4361
4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
I love it!
I'd rather tell the truth, and say no one knows what happens after we die, than play a little fantasy game in my mind, entirely for the comfort of it. You are most frightened of hell and saying the words that free your mind the most. "I don't know."
If God wrote a book, I'm sure he would use materials that last for ever. Actually, he would do better than write a book. He would implant the truth into our DNA. Or at least give us a movie.
My cousin told me I was lying and was gonna burn in hell forever when I told him that pro wrestling (‘raslin) wasn’t real and that it was staged. We were 9 years old. I thought that was funny asf.
@Kruegerfan101emoandgothallowed
3 жыл бұрын
I find it entertaining when Christians say the Bible is a word of God yet they often can't recite a single verse from its words or even better if you point out something that is contradictory or outright outdated to modern times they will just say it's a bad translation
An atheist talk show taught me more about the history of the Bible in 10 min than churches have in 25 years. I’m thinking churches wanted to control what I was being taught 🤔
If you don't believe in God then how can you have an opinion about the WORDS of God?
Tracie is so smart
Jews: "This is the god we adapted from our captors' god. He said x and demands y." Christians: "You got the god right. And some of the history. But a guy came & changed all that. So God ACTUALLY said f and demands k" Muslims: "You got the god right. And some of the history. But a guy came & changed all that. So God ACTUALLY said c and demands m" Mormons: "You (well, Christians, not Muslims) got the god right. And some of the history. But a guy came & changed all that. So God ACTUALLY said e and demands w" I think it's hilarious...and sad...that so many of the above...don't even know that all of their gods...are, at least supposed to be, THE SAME DUDE.
@ricosheric6469
9 жыл бұрын
Bruce Baker Nope, Christian God is the correct one. It can be proven scientifically and historically.
@brucebaker810
9 жыл бұрын
Ricoshe Ric Perhaps it can "be proven scientifically and historically". But I've heard & read hundreds of attempts to do so. And found nothing compelling. Scientifically OR historically. Much less both simultaneously. Christian apologists, even the many lame ones, can still apparently make decent money. If you could do what you claim can be done, you could clean up.
@ricosheric6469
9 жыл бұрын
Bruce Baker There are tremendous amount of accuracy and proof about it, but I guess it does not really matter on a person who is either A) not interested B) Just biased to what he believes in C) who acknowledges the truth but decided to go for the usual anyway.
@brucebaker810
9 жыл бұрын
Ricoshe Ric Bias also applies to believers too. Figuring "yep, that's good evidence right there". When...it just aint. It's circular, or special pleading, or based solely on emotion, imagined voice or feelings, simple assertion, etc.
@ricosheric6469
9 жыл бұрын
Bruce Baker I guess it applies to everyone..so its just probably "let me be" type of thing..goodnight...zzzz
(Romans 16:17-18) "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."
For individuals that are proponents of the 1611 King James, it might interest you to know that the Catholic apocryphal books were included in it. Inspired by God?
I am not religious I am spiritual and believe in a universal law. I know there is a divine spiritual being.. That is within internally and externally connected to the universe.
+John Larsen, the reason why they are proving the bible isn't the word of god, is because there are so many gullible people who think it is!
@joet8862
9 жыл бұрын
***** What do you think the existence of god is, deep down?
@joet8862
9 жыл бұрын
***** What a load of pretentious rubbish. You still don't really have any proof of god, or proof of any of your claims being true! I'm not going to believe what someone says if you can't effectively back it up. Using the bible as evidence doesn't help, as you don't know the circumstances it was written, had you ever considered that the people who wrote it made up the stories and were just giving their idea on how they would like the world and its people to be? there are other variables which don't make it valid, so there is no point in quoting it. when you say you talk to god, you're actually talking to yourself. FAITH IS GULLIBILITY, it makes you accept everything at face value and not ask questions.
@joet8862
9 жыл бұрын
***** Well clearly you don't, because if you did you'd come to the conclusion that god and jesus aren't real, as there's no valid evidence to prove they are. Then you'd move on and continue with your life.
@alansargent6002
8 жыл бұрын
+elibeth1211 Have you questioned the following and come up with an answer?..........'And the lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend' - Exodus 33:11..........................'No one has ever seen god' - John 1:18..............................Please explain why 'god's word' is contradictory.
@chronicler2313
8 жыл бұрын
alan sargent Please explain why contradictions are wrong according to your worldview.
The content is unreal, just shared this to my group would love to connect just subscribed:)
"I looked up the passage, far enough you didn't misquote it i remembered wrong," Just the fact that you have the courage to say that, instead of dodging it and bringing up something else in the hopes I would forget (which I wouldn't, but still-) says much about you, sir/ma'am. I think deep down inside, you feel like it is somehow untrue, yet you have been into it for so long, you feel a loyalty to defend it. This is just my opinion, but that's the vibe I get. You also seem intelligent. Respect.
To all of you non believers, I have a question. If you've read the bible? Then please explain to all believers how all of the prophecies are coming to pass right before our very eyes so how do you explain that? Also you said God didn't say right this word Gotti I got okay you're correct for the most part but in the Book of Revelations it was said to write to John the Revelator as I like to refer to it Jesus told John or an angel told John to write these things down.
@davidstarks3308
5 жыл бұрын
Ed Holt Please name one?
Santa and Jesus are the exact same thing. Parents use Santa to control kids (be nice or no gifts). The Church uses Jesus the exact same way (do what we say or go to hell). It's all about control....
If you deny that your god had to be created, why can't you just deny that the Universe had to be created, like the rest of us? Because when you say everything had to be created, and that your god is everything, you're still not finished explaining where everything came from... What good is a story about creation if the story begins with the assumption that not everything has to be created? If you do not know where your god comes from, your story is telling exactly nothing about any beginning...
The bible is the Conman's handbook , a verse can be found to sell, support,deny ,agree or conclude anything .
I love how Jen laughs at the end.
Can we agree that the religion as we humans, evolved? I was thinking now that because of being adopted by more and more people and the stronger religion was eating smaller groups or eliminating smaller religions evolved to the big religion groups that are now on planet earth.
@DavidBeczuk
10 жыл бұрын
Jack O'Scratch true
The King James Version is not the first version in English, that was by Tyndall, also the number of the beast is 616, it was the reed sea, not Red Sea, also it was taken from the Hebrew and the Greek Orthodox bibles as well as the RC latin version.....
VERY well put, sir. Thumbs up.
this is a typical misunderstanding of christian ethics. notice i put the word guidebook in quotation marks. nt ethics is where the law of christ is written on the heart of believers and lived intrinstically. i suggest you look at the book of galatians in the nt, Paul explain the relationship of the church to the ot law there very well.
I am not clear on how the Dead Sea Scrolls prove the Bible is not God's Word. Tracie does not elaborate. I cannot find anything online that touches on this - only that the Dead Sea Scrolls prove the accuracy of the Bible we currently have. Can anyone provide a good source for further investigation? Thanks~
It's crazy how I just got indoctrinated from a young age. No internet then. I just had to ask a pastor my questions and accept it back then.
i lived next door to a pastor who was convinced it was only in english but came complete with verse numbers.
Parady of an old commercial: My god's better than your god, my god's better than yours, my god's better because I have faith, my god's better than yours. For various versions, substitute the word bible instead of the word god, same effect!
Thus you can see the 2 surnames have quite distinctly different roles in society and origins. NB there has been further confusion created through emmigration of these names where by poor record keeping has resulted in addition of Ds and subtraction of Ds and other letters. Good Luck in finding the origin of your names as it is a rewarding journey.
it's your choice whether you choose to believe or not.
All it took for me to know that the Bible is not God's word was to read it cover to cover. How many Christians have done that?
That was funny when Matt characterized the translators of some bibles as them saying, "screw you guys, this is what we're claiming as being the holy book" lol at 7:34
The Marcion bit is fascinating
sure enough, i''ll have a look over the weekend.
I must have replied this in a wrong thread, forgive me! But anyway, if you do not believe that god was created by the people who wrote the bible.. What do you believe then? It's not like "nothing" can turn into something like a "god" just like that...