“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― George Carlin

@michaelblacktree

4 жыл бұрын

You know it. 😝

@JustWasted3HoursHere

4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't that Mark Twain who said that?

@michaelblacktree

4 жыл бұрын

@@JustWasted3HoursHere - There's a similar quote attributed to Mark Twain. Although its validity is questionable.

@JustWasted3HoursHere

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelblacktree Hard to say where it truly originated from, but I like this one that is pretty well attributed to Twain: "Never argue with a fool; Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." One of my favorite [assuming] Carlin quotes is "Think about how dumb the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even dumber than that!"

@K4inan

4 жыл бұрын

@Anti Apartheid Israel Wut? People saw it happen all over new york lol

The lesson here... Do NOT engage with Trolls.

@panikosofgrays1904

5 жыл бұрын

"because they will point out flaws you can't answer and make you look foolish"

@Gollvieg

5 жыл бұрын

@@panikosofgrays1904 More like the flat earthers are both too stupid and too lazy that they would waste their time searching for videos on youtube when they could spend it finding a way to go to Antarctica

@spacecomma9589

5 жыл бұрын

@@panikosofgrays1904 LoL, pure gold. The only flaws they can really point out are the ones in their own education.

@heatshield

5 жыл бұрын

@@spacecomma9589 ,

@iamTheSnark

5 жыл бұрын

@Chang. Interesting... Space , Comma no capital *ding*

"Elementary school dropout". This became a tradition in the flat earth community.

@Snow_birds

5 жыл бұрын

We find out the truth by not going through brainwashing "School"

@Velumbra

5 жыл бұрын

@@Snow_birds Found the dropout!

@chawp5465

5 жыл бұрын

Blitzkrieg Found the slave. Do you believe your on a spinning ball? If so, why.

@arctic_haze

5 жыл бұрын

@@chawp5465 Because it is mesurable All girocompasses do thst.

@mikecrownshaw1646

5 жыл бұрын

@@chawp5465 ring lazer gyros detect the spin. For one.

It's easier to fool people, than to admit they been fooled, Mark Twain,

@MrSirhcsellor

4 жыл бұрын

Which explains how Flat Earth has spread so rampant last few years...you ever try arguing with a Flat Earther? Good luck trying to bring them back to reality.

@richardblack9067

4 жыл бұрын

And the time is right around the corner when you will feel like gullible assholes for rejecting the VOLUMINOUS scientific DOCUMENTATION of Flat Earth TRUTH! (After all, your KINDERGARTEN teacher led you by the hand over to a blue ball on a stand, told you to spin it, then proceeded pump the lie into your 'brain'...."See, Tommy, THIS is where YOU live!! " We ALL had that happen-some of us just grew a bit more skeptical and less easily manipulated than the rest of you-"GULLIBLE", if you will! sigh moron........ kzread.info/dash/bejne/hYCmxLyPgrDcYMo.html Wake up.............

@cholobok

4 жыл бұрын

richard black nice troll dude, 10/10

@truthselfevident

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrSirhcsellor I've debated with many globe earth believers and 99% percent knew nothing about what they believed or could give a decent argument they all relied on they were told in school this is what it is and there's no way it could be a lie or bad observation without them knowing.

@stuartjacobs3987

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone likes Hitler and he said "let me contro the text books and I will control the state" he is someone to look upto with his morals isn't he??? Hmmmmm

If somebody walks around a corner, you can no longer see them. Light doesn't refract that way, therefore it must be flat!

@mandiragupta1698

3 жыл бұрын

Kya hoga re is duniya ka

@aexndr387

3 жыл бұрын

@@mandiragupta1698 what

@koammudo43

Жыл бұрын

​@@aexndr387 what will happen to the world he said

"They have hi-jacked perspective and called it curvature" good job people that can't do their own research.

@godthehueman592

Жыл бұрын

exactly

@Pedraw_

Жыл бұрын

It is as simple as that lol

@misterjones6696

10 ай бұрын

PREACH

I stopped at “Elementary school dropout”

@HelmutBchron

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you really stopped after seeing this. kzread.info/dash/bejne/hpyY17Shkpq8YaQ.html

@davidcr566

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that pretty much sums up your average flattard.

@davidcr566

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelmutBchron So...What was that supposed to be?

@HelmutBchron

4 жыл бұрын

davidcr what? Everyone here seems to be portraying themselves as intellectuals. Yet you can’t see all the fake space travel. The irony! Just go play with your Harry Potter toys and beat it.

@davidcr566

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelmutBchron No kid, you don't have to be an intellectual or a genius to understand this things. Any person with a more or less normal level of intelligence can easily know that the Earth is round, even without needing to photos from space. Give me one valid reason to think that the Earth is a pancake besides, "looks flat to me". Why won't I accept it as a reason? Because, no shit sherlock. It's fucking huge, of course that it'll look flat to us.

So how does a mirage disprove a Flat Earth, this doesn't make sense?

@gentlestormtoo

3 жыл бұрын

He never said that a mirage disprove flat earth. Just that the experiment was flawed.

@supr3me652

2 жыл бұрын

@@gentlestormtoo but it wasn’t flawed. That experiment still shows the same results today, and superior mirages are rare. When the do take place they actually cause the image of something to flip upside down. This is more political than scientific.

This would be true if it weren’t for the advent of the laser. You can easily cast a beam light on an object at a distance where the object shouldn’t be visible and the object and laser will still be present and no visible bending of light/refraction effect.

And this is why you always put bets in escrow controlled by a third party.

@RaDeus87

4 жыл бұрын

@M. Stone If I accepted a bet with a significant monetary value attached to it I would demand escrow and a trusted third party controlling it, I wouldn't do this if it was a small personal bet.

@user-po6hn9id1t

4 жыл бұрын

@@RaDeus87 small or big, I always demand third party

@ColinWatters

3 жыл бұрын

The money was held by a referee. However Hampden went to court to prevent the referee paying out. He won his money back because in the UK gambling debts are not enforceable in law.

Belief? The narrative is already flaud. I've crossed all seas. The earth is flat

If the earth was flat why would anyone wanna try to hide that and say it’s round?💀

@fiasypiage952

3 жыл бұрын

So that they could dismiss God, but the earth is flat, and nobody has gone to space due to the firmament

The refraction of light in air is a fraction of one percent and does not effect this experiment. Neither is it a mirage which would appear inverted. The Bedford level experiment has been repeated countless times over greater distances and always shows flat.

@himothymcgillicuddy

Жыл бұрын

Sure, if you do it wrong like Rowbotham did. You view that distance right off of the water, as in 8 inches, there will most definitely be refraction. If this weren’t true, then why did Wallace get a much different result when he did his experiment at 13 feet?

*people that didn't watch the video and dislike intensifies*

@AnnoyingAsianWitch

5 жыл бұрын

There's already one and it's been a couple minutes!

@HelmutBchron

4 жыл бұрын

What?

@johnv1684

4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Morton No, they had him in the freezer, but now he’s back to lead the next revolution.

@GrimGod81

4 жыл бұрын

I watched it and disliked it because it is chalk full of misinformation.

@fussel676

4 жыл бұрын

I wanna go to that river. And see a superior mirage everyday, oh and flying ships.

“Cambridge county, England” - that’ll be Cambridgeshire

@kevinshort3943

4 жыл бұрын

He can't pronounce Rowbotham either.

@jimhize

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Short Most repeated word in the video

I love the FE story it's one of my favorites! If I had to guess the shape of the earth, From only what I see can see, I'd guess flat. Water level is the biggest clue. For me! But Wadda I know! Lol

@kumonom1

Жыл бұрын

Level means conforming to the curvature of the Earth and perpendicular to gravity

@kumonom1

Жыл бұрын

@@myNameIsNot- Have you proven that?

@kumonom1

Жыл бұрын

@@myNameIsNot- If water has no shape that means it can curve.

@benjaminlambert8944

Жыл бұрын

Drip a drop of water on a leaf. What shape is it?

@truthorbust1545

Жыл бұрын

Level means flat nothing more nothing less flat means flat. Just because my light bulbs are round doesn't mean my floor is round....Hello!.

How does air bend light to see objects below the horizon? Please, break down the science for me and mathematical calculations on that . Air bending light? Please share 🙏

@CHRlST101

2 жыл бұрын

You’ll be looking for that info for a long time. It is not a provable effect, only a false claim to support the globe.

@truix5386

2 жыл бұрын

@@CHRlST101 it's called refraction, and it does happen. This is how you calculate it: n1 sin θ1 = n2 sinθ2. If this is too hard for you, consider shutting up forever.

@CHRlST101

2 жыл бұрын

@@truix5386 cool and I can make equations to show how pigs can fly. Please provide one experiment that proves that refraction is causing light to bend around the earth, which also indefinitely denies the variable possibility that we are just seeing the object in our regular line of sight.

@truix5386

2 жыл бұрын

@@CHRlST101 Show me your equation for making pigs fly then. Then use it to predict a pig being able to fly.

@CHRlST101

2 жыл бұрын

@@truix5386 I’m not going to waste my time doing that because that is not the point… The point is an equation that can accurately predict an observable effect does not prove what that effect is. That is why we need experimentation and data that can reduce the variables which could cause said effect to find the truth of the matter. Just like we have equations that can accurately predict how gravity works upon objects, yet we really do not know exactly the full truth of what gravity really is physically other than some kind of force which causes acceleration. You are making the claim refraction is real, so provide real evidence that without a doubt shows all other variables are false. Should be easy if you know what you’re talking about.

The fraction argument is so flimsy and unlikely... It's more likely that the Earth is flat because that much refraction every single time no way

@doddermodd

Жыл бұрын

Rowbotham's telescope was literally 8 inches above the water, where the vapour would obviously build up quite intensely. That doesn't explain Wallace's experiment either.

Put a striped sail on a boat. The the stripes disappear one by one, the further the boat goes. Voila.

You guys mind if i head over to the live feed spacex and vintage space sites to wake up a few. Just a few.

@Al_1998

3 жыл бұрын

Your saying the earth is flat?

Logic and science are no match for crazy and loud.

@thepugilist4379

5 жыл бұрын

And, money and power.

@nicolauscopernicus3923

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@spacecomma9589

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrPOPSZILLA Love it. Uneducated fool that couldn't find it's way around high school math is calling science brainwashing, while being brainwashed by a biggest joke on the internet.

@whatwasthat3269

5 жыл бұрын

@@spacecomma9589 I mean scientists once said cigarettes were safe... I'm just saying they can be persuaded...

@spacecomma9589

5 жыл бұрын

@@whatwasthat3269 I'm sure one or two of them can be persuaded to bend the truth, but you can't buy the scientific consensus. You can only attempt to dilute it with misinformation. Of course, none of this applies to flat earth, because the basic concept of it defies something as simple as high school physics. And if someone wishes to deny high school physics, an alternative must be presented, and this alternative MUST be of the same predictive power. All the flat earth does is take the physics that we already know and replaces it with "everything is unknown".

The only thing Flat Earthers have to fear is Sphere itself!!!

@carltonbanks2616

5 жыл бұрын

can't be afraid if there isn't a sphere

@OM-st6uz

5 жыл бұрын

@@carltonbanks2616 Maybe if you had balls you'd see things differently you castrated frick

@Ophiuchus1312

5 жыл бұрын

Me breathe your sphere-air and become happy

@Ophiuchus1312

5 жыл бұрын

Me your Channel tells everything about your non-iq. 🤦‍♂️ I hope you know that every flat earther knows all what you globe-believers know about spheres and universe. But we know both sides and reacting with logikal thinking and pratical proofs, not with cheating math.This Bad englisch comes from Germany. 😇

@maria369

5 жыл бұрын

@@OM-st6uz Dude don't feed the trolls! That is IF they are trolls, most likely they are just dumbfucks.

Do you really think the ground rises as it nears the horizon and that people living on a globe are surrounded by a concave bowl?

During a superior mirage, the boat would have looked upside down. It must have been an Inferior mirage or some other kind to be scientifically correct.

@0grilo0

2 жыл бұрын

Yes... Thank you omfg this video made me consider flat earth xD

@seabeejg

2 жыл бұрын

But he said superior.

@tiggywink1

2 жыл бұрын

@@seabeejg Yeah! Superior mirages are upside down! Like on a hot highway....I doesn't happen....Besides, ships are out 30 miles or so before they start to disappear, that is crazy if the geographical horizon is only under 3 miles away, to an average height man...

@seabeejg

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiggywink1 It says this when I looked it up, but I thought it was much farther (I forget exactly). Regardless, it seems unfathomable that it's only ~3 miles from our eyesight. But I was curious about a couple things. 1. The more powerful a magnifying lens of a scope, the longer or farther out you can see the ship. Why? 2. I was about 6' tall and was standing in the at sea level with the water up to my ankles. I was on San Clemente Island facing East and could see the California coastline from well north of Mugu Rock, California all the way down past Tijuana, Mexico, a stretch of over 200 miles of coastline. I could see the entirety of Mugu Rock that is about 68 miles away from me and is around 120 feet above sea level, with the exception of some of the beach and beach rock near sea level. How? Light refraction? So a laser couldn't touch it if pointed? Or because of light refraction, it would, but it's bending and is not in actuality a straight laser? Tijuana has an elevation of 65 feet, yet I could see most of its lowlands from more than 85 miles away. That's with the naked eye. I just don't believe the 3 miles to make any sense, even with the light refraction explanation. I am looking at something 68 miles away. I can see it, plain as day. You can have your eye on the Pacific Coast Highway in a boat to the island the whole time, never leaving your sight. The beach at sea level should be over 3,051 feet of curvature beyond the horizon if you figure the formula for the curvature of the Earth at 7.92 inches per mile squared. 7.92" X 68 miles squared = 36,722.08 inches, which is 3,051.84 feet of curvature. How do I see these areas that are only feet above sea level from 68-85 miles away?

@tiggywink1

2 жыл бұрын

@@seabeejg1. I'm not a genius on how telescopes work exactly, but I figure the outer lens package concentrates an image into a narrow point, then there are other lenses along the tube that magnify that concentrated image....I just know I have a telescope and it works great!. Well, my friend worked as a mathematical engineer for decades, and I asked him to check out the figures that we read on the Earth Curvature chart...He did his trig or whatever and said it was accurate, at least up to 90 degrees of spherical roundover..... Now, my other bud, who lived in Arizona, says you always see a mirror image of cars below the actual car itself, not above it....If the car is a long way off, you might not even see it, until it gets close. Now this is a mirage caused by heat rising, and is an inferior mirage, I believe, but I live up north and don't see that occur often. But where I live, I can see the water splashing on an opposed beach from sea level 10 miles away, any day of the year, hot or cold, weather allowing. I should not be able to see it...Anytime...I've watched boats head out to sea at 15 to 20 knots for a couple hours, before they start to disappear...of course, with telephoto....I think ships are just merging into the convergence zone between sea and sky...The atmospheric veil won't let you see farther....Plus one should not see a perfect mirror image on the water from afar either...Or the sun rays from an ocean sunset glare all the way to your feet... Think about it.....

Precisely why scientists rarely debate Flatheads in public. It does nothing for our reputation but everything to promote the idiocy of FE.

@jonny46ba

4 жыл бұрын

like playing chess with a pigeon, it walks around knocking the pieces over then shits all over the board, then struts off thinking it won.... (can't remember who's quote this is but I love it)

@michaelblacktree

4 жыл бұрын

Also, arguing with a fool turns you into one.

@misterjones6696

10 ай бұрын

THE TRUE SCIENTISTS ARE THE FLAT EARTHERS THE TRUE EARTHERAS ARE OUT IN THE FIELD DOING EXPERIMENTS ANALYZING DATA the GLOBER is REPEATING A supposed FIGURE from over 500 years ago who thought HEY the Suns not MOVING WE ARE!!! we just cant measure it demonstrate it verify or prove it in any way but hes got a hunch..... EVEN THE WIKI LOGO is a GLOBE THAT DOESNT QUITE ADD UP truth in plain sight

The amazing thing is this experiment has been completed many times since using more modern ways. By using a laser instead of the human eye with simple devices we can now prove the experiment without atmospheric tricks being played on our eyes.

@thezenwizard

2 жыл бұрын

A laser is still subject to atmospheric refraction.

@ocashflo

2 жыл бұрын

@@thezenwizard so is that why the military uses lasers to pin point the enemy miles and miles away. Hmmmm your point needs help

@GreatScottByJoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@ocashflo Tim H got owned hahah

@ocashflo

2 жыл бұрын

@@GreatScottByJoe he certainly didn’t have a factual rebuttal to counter my point.

@GreatScottByJoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@ocashflo Still doesn't haha

Your explanation at how Rawbotham experiment is flawed didn't make any sense. Thusly, I must deal with the fact that the earth must be a flat plane

People that believe in flat earth are the same people that actually believe in god and we know how rationally they think

@mercurym-7904

4 жыл бұрын

RALPH MARINO lmao, thats soooooo wrong! 🤣

@destiny_5540

3 жыл бұрын

the same ones who say their god is so good and then you have to follow a whole thousand page long terms and conditions the same one who sends people to eternal suffering for not believing in them

"superior mirage" seems like an ad hoc explanation that attempts to discredit the original experiments conclusion. A mirage will always be inverted. What is the science behind a "superior mirage" and can it be demonstrated and measured empirically?

@johnbiggscr

4 жыл бұрын

A mirage won’t be always inverted though.

@mmccrownus2406

2 жыл бұрын

Shhh. You’ve seen past his rushed flood of programming

We could take flat earthers to space... Not let them into the station, just put them in space. No suit either, so they can't accuse us of influencing their eyesight... there they can see that it is round

@IamPeacefulWarrior

5 жыл бұрын

You could. But then again, you couldn't, because nobody has been to that so-called 'space'. It's NASA and their CGI(computer generated images) that had you fooled. Wakey, wakey!

@odpbodpb

5 жыл бұрын

Rockets cannot produce thrust in a vacuum,,NASA never even tested their rockets in a vacuum,,,,they can burn but the force would be expelled out into nothing which could not produce thrust,,and save the gun barrel excuse,,it is not the same thing,,,

@odpbodpb

5 жыл бұрын

@@IamPeacefulWarrior Notice how they have changed the search engine to only return debunking and nonsense videos about the Flat Earth,,instead of the many vids that provide very good information,,,,that is proof right there they are trying to hide that information,,since people are figuring out they do not live on a spinning ball,,,

@chinito77

5 жыл бұрын

Can you flat Earthers be any more stupid? I suppose all the planets are held up by strings and the ice wall is protecting us from ice zombies huh?

@OM-st6uz

5 жыл бұрын

odpbodpb Citation needed

Light refraction would leave a shadow in place of the clear as day boat that's being refracted. And Wallace used perspective which is faulty. Zooming lenses bring everything back into sight. How isn't this already known? Talk about scholars.

@GuardianSoulkeeper

Жыл бұрын

No one has ever brought an object that has gone behind the horizon back into view via magnification. That's like watching someone walk behind a wall and zooming on the wall to bring the person back into view. It's precisely as insane as it sounds.

Amateur radio propagation proves the heliocentric globe model 1.curvature, use vhf or uhf bands with a vertical antenna on fm and the earth gets in the way this is the radio horizon usually 4/3rds the visual horizon. 2.the speed of light, every antenna made is calculated by c/f=lambda or it would not resonate at its fundamental frequency. 3.distance to local Rocky bodies in space,knowing the speed of light it is easy to calculate the distance the moon also proving its not a holographic image 3000 miles away. 4.curved water vhf and uhf marine radios have a finite distance before the body of water gets in the way. 5. Existence of the ISS. The space station has a Kenwood ham radio onboard ,we can talk to it and it also has a repeater we can talk through, not only proving its altitude,location but also it’s velocity due to Doppler,yes we have to alter frequency to compensate for the shift. 6. Satellites… there are several satellites that orbit the earth that have to be tracked to use them to make contacts these are the Oscar satellites We now have a geo bird too this is QO100. 7.GPS,many radios today use gps foe APRS and location . 8.HF radio and yagi antennas with rotators…the earth isn’t flat or there wouldn’t be a need for a different map Deleon location, 9. Again with Hf and beam antennas there is both a long and short path 180deg apart can’t do that on a flat earth. 10 the existence of the ionosphere HF radio would be limited to ground wave and direct wave communications without it, Do you wish me to carry on? But hey what would I know after 43 years of comms use in the field?

@stlouisx50

Жыл бұрын

Bouncing off the fermament would allow skip.

Stop calling them "highly unusual beliefs". Call them provably false beliefs.

@bigfletch8

4 жыл бұрын

Or call beliefs for what they are; unsubstantiated group perceptions. Was he a primary school dropout? Did you check it out, or did it simply substantiate your belief? Believers hunt in packs. I either know or dont know.

Earth is not flat. That is a fact, and that's enough.

@ZackWolfMusic

5 жыл бұрын

Where is the proof we are living on a spinning ball of water around a gas sun once per day. I'm waiting on that proof and also proof of curvature without a fish eye lens.

@objectivityworldview

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent reply. That’s the same question that I have been asking. But as usual, Globe Earthers never have any scientific proof.

@jeffss04

5 жыл бұрын

Shut up Matt parker go turn on the news and absorb it all. You clearly can't think for yourself. Dumbass.

@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC

5 жыл бұрын

Actually... earth is flat.

@panikosofgrays1904

5 жыл бұрын

chris johnson here you go. A nice simple one. The sun has to light half the earth at a time. It can't just do a little patch as many FEs say as then you'd have to wait weeks for your town to have daylight again. It also can't be low down as it must be hot enough for people to be sunbathing half a world away. If it were hovering just over the clouds at noon you'd be incinerated. So it's very high and bright enough to light half the earth easily. So now there is no way for a flat earth sun to light part of the disk and not be visible at all past a certain line. Go in a dark field with a friend holding a torch. Even when he's too far away for his torch to light up where you are standing you can still see the torch itself bobbing about. And that's with a little torch. Now give him something that will light half the field as bright as day and see if you can see his light from the other side. Glad to help. Welcome to reality.

I’ve have never seen a ship float (in the air), *what I have seen is refraction bending light to the ground before it reaches my eyes .... if refraction caused things over the curve to become visible then shouldn’t I observe a ship disappearing and then when the light meets my eyes again the ship floats back up while moving away ... I would love to see examples of this? And I will eat these words....

@jimtrue1465

4 жыл бұрын

"...when the light meets my eyes again..." HUH?

@CHRlST101

2 жыл бұрын

The way you worded that was a little confusing, but you will never eat your words cus refraction doesn’t exist in this way. It is made up for people to keep believing in the globe, and then never look it up because they don’t need proof, just anything to keep confirming their beliefs.

@aceventura5398

Жыл бұрын

In this way a light detection system should see the ship through out its entire travel. Sounds rediculouse. But i guess they will offer some other BS to defeat this argument too.

Globe earth logic; when the facts are wrong, pick and choose which facts you support, defame your opponent, and twist the details of the event as much as possible. Just do not, under any circumstances, admit that you were wrong. "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts". - genuine qoute from Einstein, biblical savior of heliocentric philosophy

Proof of how believers, regardless of the subject, follow herd mentality.. Heres proof. The counter proof stated that the boat and therefor the curve actually rose...thus proving etc etc. Wherever you are standing on a sphere, everything would go down.... A superior mirage happens with specific atmosphere conditions. The experiment took place on a whole variety of conditions...but hey, dont let facts get in the way of good beliefs. If they did, we wouodnt go to war based on "our" beliefs.

I'm sorry, but your accounting of this is, shall we say, a bit off. Wallace's demonstration is not cited by anyone. As solid as it was, it's just a blip on the radar, and all educated people have known that the Earth is a globe for more than 2,000 years. And Rowbotham was actually getting a good amount of press before Hampden came along with his bet. In fact, Rowbotham was somewhat alarmed at the proposal, knowing full well that it would not turn out well, and could conceivably put a kink in his regular gig of lecturing about the flat Earth. For more information read Christine Garwood's thorough and entertaining book "Flat Earth: The History of an Infamous Idea."

@Scientists_dont_lie

3 жыл бұрын

Not known believed.. and it was convincing to the world 500 years ago. Nonetheless flat earth is the longest running model of earth and the first model we took to. Spinning ball earth isnt.

@gordonbrooks13

3 жыл бұрын

@@Scientists_dont_lie There is no flat Earth model and there never has been one. And no, known is the right word. The evidence is there for all to see, and people have put it to practical use for at least a couple of thousand years, probably longer. Nothing in flat Earth has any practical, useable value.

The New York Times, August 10, 1871 has a note about the court action, Wallance x Hampden.

I'm sorry. I hadn't realised that asking a perfectly polite and reasonable question would result in such a reply. What's your problem????

You had one thing right he wasn't a scientist.😂

@thearcadian290

5 жыл бұрын

Jeff Greeson Obviously you're not either?

Im not sure it’s flat but I’m 100 % sure they don’t know for sure

I wouldnt trust a flat earth believer to stack shelves at the 99p store

There are no atheist flat-earthers. That should tell you everything.

@MrOnay-px1jx

5 жыл бұрын

Yes there are

@drdassler

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Onay wrong.

@gowdsake7103

5 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately there are

@drdassler

5 жыл бұрын

gowd sake nope, it requires a creator. Can't have one without the other. Try thinking.

@iamTheSnark

5 жыл бұрын

@@drdassler They exist, but there are not that many. It requires a different type of stupidity. The problem is, that commodity abounds.

Imagine living a life feeling like everything above you is conspired against you. To brainwash you. It must be really stressful and lonely. In the almost absolutely unlikely event that the conspiracies were all true, I'm quite happy to be surprised on the day, than to be wasting my otherwise relatively good life chasing the truth.

@ir8free

4 жыл бұрын

The final solution to the FE problem: Exile and deport the FE adherents to a desert island.

@078moredetails

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine being deceived to the point that you can't even see thru the smoke and mirrors and take the staggering amount of deception to your death bed never the wiser and then missing God cause you couldn't see with the eyes you where given out of love and creation...you need to find better research skills and stop watching your mainstream crap of lies...

@078moredetails

4 жыл бұрын

Chasing lies is not the answer for you to wake up and find truth ...stay asleep it's not my ass lost in a narrative that's agenda driven to miss God...good luck stay focused on nothing of value...

@hamsterlord8848

4 жыл бұрын

"But the experiment was flawed" Says the people who didn't like the results. This is called moving the goalposts. The river was only 6 miles long. We have better telescopes now. We can see over 200 miles without any curvature. Don't be fooled.

@nikhilrewar1057

4 жыл бұрын

@Hell N Degenerates Theres about 10000 professional astronomers (2019), more than 72000 astrophysicists (2013, likely even more today), more than 120000 people employed in spaceprogramms (2019, but lets subtract 60000 for people who might be involved indirectly). Also everyone working in communications (your theory can't explain satellites, meaning all communications must be hidden on ground). Also alot of high ranking government officials in any country involved in spaceprogramms (more than you think) and basically an army of surveilance staff and soldiers who keep those involved in the conspiracy from spreading the word (literally one Whistleblower like Snowden, who shows real evidence and its all over) Ah yes... and anyone can become a hobby-astronomer and see how the sky changes from day to day, in a way that can only be explained by our current laws of nature. Ah right... Most (hobby or professional) physicists, who know how to conduct proper experiments, disproving theories like yours. I probably still forgot alot of people. But while those few hundred thousands might not be many compared to humanity they are enough to destroy "the goverments" or whoevers plans. Furthermore there is still no motive to spend and risk so much for such a useless lie. In addition the earths circumference is around 131.234.000 feet. So a few hundred or even thousand don't make a big difference. Thats like drawing a 100 meter circle, looking at a few Millimeters of it and screaming "WHERE IS THE CURVE?" in confusion.

42,000km / 360° = 111km to 1° Robowthams 6 miles out to sea spanned 0.07°

@malcolmcanning548

4 жыл бұрын

Gordon Cavendish ex-sprerment..I can't take much more nonsense.

@grantperkins368

4 жыл бұрын

Which by the maths works out at about 60 feet of curvature

@electricpalace4720

4 жыл бұрын

@@grantperkins368 What works out at 60 feet of curvature?

@richspillman4191

4 жыл бұрын

@@jarodstrain8905 with a diameter of 41710944 ft that comes out to 6256 ft of curve, earth=70+% water draw it out, looks fairly flat

@jarodstrain8905

4 жыл бұрын

@@richspillman4191 your statement is a bit hard to follow. Are you saying that with such a slight curvation per foot the amount of Earth we can see at a given time would look flat? Because yeah, it certainly would. That's my whole point, saying something looks flat without actually measuring it is ending with the question instead of looking for an answer.

Good vid btw, thanks 😊

Hampden = Nathan Oakley of the 1800's.

@wiggles7976

5 жыл бұрын

Nathan is a conman. But still, he abuses his guests, and is absolutely too chicken to leave his troll cave (The Flat Earth Debate Show he hosts).

@DodgyD101

5 жыл бұрын

No wiggles I've listened to that show/debate, and you, rumpus and Brenda have to be the stupidest people I've ever heard. Contradicting nonsense. I don't know how he allows you back on again and again. I'm thinking he pays you for comedy value.

@swinde

4 жыл бұрын

No. Oakley is a joke. He operates like a "shock-jock". He talks over and belittles his "guest" constantly. Meanwhile there are screen shots on his show providing evidence the the Earth is indeed a sphere. ( A sunset on the ocean with half the sun below the horizon and a wind farm on the ocean with the more distant windmills clearly partially hidden by the horizon.)

I think it's time to remind people the truth

Wallace the stone mason. Thought that might have been mentioned 😉

Explain the northern and southern lights. Knowing that it's been seen before any type of technology could build a device.

Refraction. 🤣

Do the tamarack mines experiment next. Id love to see how you twist that one into a ball as well

@paulpeters6380

Жыл бұрын

The fact they used a washed up desperate evolutionist too makes me laugh

@himothymcgillicuddy

Жыл бұрын

So…. What is that supposed to prove? Only that there measurement was inaccurate. Here’s a fun fact. On very long suspension bridges, the top of the towers are a bit less than two inches farther apart than the base of the towers. These towers have to be perfectly straight up and down. The difference in the distances can only be attributed to the curve of the Earth.

@apollo-ec2pm

8 ай бұрын

@@himothymcgillicuddy Hello, Sir. The problem with your conclusion is that Engineers do not take the curvature of the Earth into account.

@JudgeGaffe

5 ай бұрын

..buy yourself an civil engineering book/manual. They very much DO take the curvature into account.

All sailors & all pilots know the world is a globe. Oh yeah, astronauts too. 🚀

@ir8free

4 жыл бұрын

FE geniuses would say astroNOTs. Farmers have also watched the sky.

@baileesidebottom7402

4 жыл бұрын

Actually pilots are taught the Earth is a flat plane. Look it up 😂

@jimcottee9187

4 жыл бұрын

@@baileesidebottom7402 I'm a pilot, are you?

@grahamyates2490

4 жыл бұрын

@@baileesidebottom7402 Incorrect. Do you have any evidence such as any flight training manual that states such a thing? Here's a video of an example of such that states that the earth is a globe. In fact, it's very title is 'Global Navigation for Pilots' (start at 3:05) > kzread.info/dash/bejne/aW2ussZwdKrAYs4.html

@stevethecatcouch6532

4 жыл бұрын

@@baileesidebottom7402 Look it up? Why bother? If you had a source for that nonsense you would have included a cite in your comment.

Density and Buoyancy in the atmosphere has nothing to do with how things fall to Earth. . . Things still fall in a vacuum. . . How do the Moon's phases work on a Flat Earth ? How do eclipses work on a Flat Earth?? Why are the stars in the Southern Hemisphere different ?? And why do they rotate in the opposite direction as compared to the Northern Hemisphere?? Why does Antarctica have 24 hour sunlight part of the year?? And how do you use your model to predict the next Lunar eclipse ?? I bet you can't !! These are indisputable facts and you know it ! I'll be waiting.

@mactallica9293

2 жыл бұрын

I see you've been waiting for 9 months. Strange since a bunch of flat earthers have commented but no one addressed any point you made

Eric Dubay - 200 flat earth proofs

Lesson learned: don't feed the trolls. Don't engage.

Take care, the ship might hit the wall

@michaelbryanorbon8196

4 жыл бұрын

lmao, should've used the term edge instead for other people to understand ur joke

Somewhere along the line I have missed what flat earthers believe is the diameter of flat earth. I wonder if you could tell me. Cheers!

@whatwasthat3269

5 жыл бұрын

What did Earth look like when you went to space?

@dansv1

5 жыл бұрын

What was that??? That’s not an answer.

@jimmynobody8344

4 жыл бұрын

Dan Severns flat earthers know to never give a testable answer. Their responses will always be a deflection.

So what happened it that he didnt take in consideration the refraction, this dude didnt think in keep watching the ship ?

Downvoted for horrendous pronunciation of "Rowbotham" Shame I cannot add another one for "Cambridge County" (there is no such place)

@phyphor

5 жыл бұрын

Not just a mispronunciation, but seeming to say it as many times as possible.

@jimtrue1465

5 жыл бұрын

You should never criticize someone for mispronouncing a word or name (correct them, yes, criticize, no). When someone mispronounces a word or name, it merely means that person learned that word or name by READING, and not from some KZread video.

@silenthunter8254

5 жыл бұрын

In some circles shire is the equivalent of county. Jim true is right, don't criticize, correct.

@jarodstrain8905

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting lie, I know three different gentleman with the last name of "Rowbotham". They pronounce the name three different ways.

@Mick_The_Vid

5 жыл бұрын

Yes it is curious, when I was at Aston, Birmingham, I found several people who felt embarrassed about their perceived northern names and changed the pronunciation to a more neutral metropolitan or european pronunciation. But as I said my mother, before old age set in, she is now 91, was emphatic about the way the names as she put it were said. She also said there was a Winterbotham and a Sidebotham all the same village.

All these "Conspiracy" people have one thing in common. They need to think they have secret knowledge to make themselves feel special. That's one of the reasons they hold so tight to their beliefs.

@kimterry4239

3 жыл бұрын

I served in the US Navy. I have been so far out at sea, it would blow your mind . No curvature. None . I've been through the Straits of Gibraltar at night. You can see Africa and Europe. How does light and water arc? How does radar work on a globe?

@kevincox3698

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimterry4239 It all depends on the height above the water to you apparent horizon. If you are 40 ft above the water the distance to your horizon is at 7.7 miles. If you are 80 ft. above the water your horizon is 11 miles. Why not 15.4 miles? Because the earth is curved. A flat earth wouldn't cause that. Radar only sees to the horizon. That is why they mount the radar on a high point. VHF radio for instance is also line of sight. You can't talk beyond the line of sight of the 2 antennas. Do you remember coming into port and the first things you saw was the tops of things? As you got nearer you could the see the shore? How does a flat earth cause that? The earth is round. If it were flat people wouldn't need to spend so much for antenna towers. If you notice the people trying to prove a flat earth never leave the ground to test. If they did the whole thing would be debunked.

@BertleMcGertle

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevincox3698 how old are you?

@kevincox3698

3 жыл бұрын

@@BertleMcGertle 63

@robertthomas276

3 жыл бұрын

The secret knowledge it's just obvious it's right in front of your face i

If the Earth is flat and unlike all other celestial bodies who created it that way?

@dazzlefaulty7205

5 жыл бұрын

God

@dazzlefaulty7205

5 жыл бұрын

What rubbish its been proved many time it flat and never a sphere that's fact, just people can't handle the truth

Everyone knows the Earth is a dodecahedron. ROFLMAO!

@aware5358

4 жыл бұрын

Garland Parks It’s a joke

@crazyguy313youtubify

4 жыл бұрын

@@aware5358 So what are we laughing about here? My pocket protector?

@vishnuas1842

4 жыл бұрын

No...no....no....the earth is a square. I have proofs , i dreamt yesterday!

@mr.scientific5711

3 жыл бұрын

Where’s your proof?

Lol he seen a mirage

That was Good Stuff mate😁. Regards Bruce McKay 🇦🇺🙃🏄‍♂️.

Subscribers to flat earth channels, does not equal flat earthers. People subscribe to channels on building cars, doesn't mean they do or can, people subscribe to gun channels, doesn't mean they own one, etc. etc. They might just find them entertaining.

Once you go flat, you don't globe back.

@jarodstrain8905

4 жыл бұрын

Actually there are a lot of flat earthers that have come out of the cult. Tiger Dan for example was quite a devout believer in your religion, and he tried to design a flat Earth Map that would be accurate. After several months he realized the inevitable. Things don't fit on a flat Map because the Earth isn't flat.

@eldritchlemon

4 жыл бұрын

@@jarodstrain8905 ikr.

@janrohtupas9609

4 жыл бұрын

@@jarodstrain8905 Tiger Dan and Mad Mike are only FEers I respect

@jarodstrain8905

4 жыл бұрын

@Anti Apartheid Israel and of course you know that it must be flat because all of the evidence suggests that it's spherical and there's no way that they would allow evidence for a spherical world if it really was spherical right? On the other hand if the evidence said that it was flat then you would know that it was actually a sphere because they would never actually let you know the truth. Now we're getting somewhere!

@notamoron2246

4 жыл бұрын

@Anti Apartheid Israel The globe (model) works perfectly. Where is your model?

The natural physics of water on a 25,000 mile in circumference object is to curve 8 inches per mile squared...... ................................ Said no one ever !🤣🤣😂 FL____________🚢___________AT

@iamTheSnark

5 жыл бұрын

Well, some Flat Earthers seem to believe it. Us (normal people) don't. Why? Because the formula does not describe a circle. Basic stuff, anyone who has ever picked up a math book sees that in 1/4 of a second.

@jarodstrain8905

5 жыл бұрын

It's quite true that no one has ever said that. Fluid dynamics dictate that all liquids respond to the forces applied to them. Water is no exception. It would be interesting to see one measure water to be flat though. I've never seen that accomplished within exacting tolerances.

@TimTeemo

4 жыл бұрын

The "squared" part immediately indicates an equation for a parabola, and guess what! The Earth isn't a parabola, it's a circle, so why are flat earthers using an equation for a parabola to debunk flat earth? Because it's easy and it gives them the result they want.

@attoblaze3395

4 жыл бұрын

the natural selection of humans is still continuing to this day, keeping the supirior genes reproducing said no one ever!

Hmm wow

Looming is the effect observed when objects appear higher than they should, not superior mirage. That was also a poor description of the way this was twisted into globe evidence.

@johnbiggscr

4 жыл бұрын

No twisting required.

Flat earthers would still claim the earth is flat even you put them into a rocket and put them in the international space station to see the world with their own eyes. They would probably claim the window they're looking out of is fake and just a screen.

@mmmmmmolly

5 жыл бұрын

sadly, that's the thing with people who believe in insane conspiracies, the more counter evidence you provide, the more they will be convinced they are right. they're a lost cause imo sadly.

@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC

5 жыл бұрын

It’s flat and there is no iss. I’ve seen better cgi on PlayStation 1 video games.

@cavalrycome

5 жыл бұрын

@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC If you are willing to put your beliefs to the test, you can observe the ISS in orbit with your own eyes. Use the tracker at this URL to see when it's about to move over your part of the world one clear night, then go outside and look up: www.isstracker.com/. It's a very bright, fast-moving object, which you can see perfectly well with the naked eye.

@roseCatcher_

5 жыл бұрын

Or maybe they'll say the window has a fish-eye effect. That fish-eye effect nonsense has been prevalent in almost all of their arguments, especially when they try to disprove curvature sightings by camera from rockets of independent enthusiasts.

@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC

5 жыл бұрын

cavalrycome so there is something floating up in the sky.... big deal. They probably have a blimp or a balloon up there lol.

I'll say this- the flat earth society has the best pancakes!

@JonasHortell

5 жыл бұрын

Lies, they can't measure for shit!

@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC

5 жыл бұрын

You think you live on a ball?

@ljmastertroll

5 жыл бұрын

@@JonasHortell okay that's true. Also the batter keeps spilling off the edge of the pan.

@ljmastertroll

5 жыл бұрын

@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC more of an oblate spheroid.

@vitormonteiro7313

5 жыл бұрын

@@CelonixCleaningServicesLLC No. We live on a cube!

Hmm

There is no county called Cambridge, it's Cambridgeshire.

The earth was in early times throughout many cultures considered flat...the round earth argument only surfaced 4 or 5hundred yrs ago I believe...as such even in more recent times people would be arrested for saying the earth was round. I believe it's flat...I lived in ND for yrs and some places while driving at night you can see 30 miles easily especially around the oil fields

@GuardianSoulkeeper

Жыл бұрын

It surfaced closer to 3,000 years ago. In the right regions and under the right conditions you can see landmarks some 300 miles away while standing on the surface of the globe. Pic de Gaspard from Pic de Finestreilles is one such example. It's funny how the flerfs can't ever provide a prediction from their own model.

@georgebush6002

Жыл бұрын

I suspect the arrests you are refering to is related to believing the earth was the center of the universe rather than flat.

Pronounced row bottom

The world knows as earth it's like a Oasis in the like of a infinity floors universe and doesn't spinning at all.

Earth is flat.End of story.

The earth aint round and it aint spinning

@dfr6663

4 жыл бұрын

Ok 😀

@eldritchlemon

4 жыл бұрын

"Flat earther spend 20000 dollars to prove the earth is flat but instead proved it was round"

@davidcr566

4 жыл бұрын

Gravity. It makes it both round and spinning.

The earth is a sphere.

@THETRUTHZ

4 жыл бұрын

yes just like the moon but you'll never see that back of it ;)

I spent so much time believing all the lies to keep the dream alive, now it makes me sad, it’s makes sad at you for believing all lies. -billy idol, eyes without a face. Great song.

i was wondering whereabouts on the globe is a spirit level on the curve and not level

@dansv1

4 жыл бұрын

51vvince Level is always perpendicular to up and down.

Lmaooooo the absurdity of this video is just straight up hilarious

Some things not mentioned were that Rowbotham actually was standing in the water with the telescope only 8 INCHES above the surface, watching a friend row a boat away from him. If Rowbotham had done this test at different times of the year under different weather conditions he would have got radically different results. Also, what Wallace actually did - and Hampden agreed to! - for the test was he placed 3 spots above the water 13 feet and spread out equidistant over 6 miles, point A, B and C. On point A was a telescope aimed at the 13 foot target at point C. At the mid-point, point B, was a pole with two discs on it: The center of the top disc was 13 feet above the water, like the telescope and the point C target. Below it was another disc. They both agreed that if the Earth was flat then looking at the last target from the first one, the TOP disc should line up with the point C target, since that would put all of them at the same height above the water. But if the Earth is curved convexly, then the BOTTOM disc should be more inline with it. As you can imagine, it was the latter that resulted from this test. Even Hampden's hand-picked referee - who was also a flat Earther! - admitted that, according to the agreed upon criteria, the results indicated a curved Earth. This was the world's first honest flat Earther.... _Hampden refused to even look through the telescope._ And one interesting side note is that, although Wallace was one of the co-discoverers of evolution, he nonetheless was wrong on other things: He was an anti-vaxxer and dabbled in spiritualism, for example.

@tonedeafduck4859

4 жыл бұрын

JustWasted3HoursHere - Thing about anti-vaxxers. The sliver of truth is that vaccines have risks. I suspect the unlucky parents are the prime drivers of this conspiracy theory.

@JustWasted3HoursHere

4 жыл бұрын

@@tonedeafduck4859 Of course. Heck, even eating a peanut butter sandwich could have lethal results for a small percentage of the population. Still, statistically it is, by far, much better to be vaccinated than to not be vaccinated EVEN if you take that risk into account. This brilliant Penn and Teller short clip demonstrates this quite well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hJqYvLaTgdnbc9I.html

I am currently 'debating' someone who's using this exact same argument, with the aid of KZread videos.

@victorbahzad6194

4 жыл бұрын

Try to stay away from fact biased arguments. Because flat earth is mostly a philosophy that what you see is what is true. You can counter this with pointing out things like mirrors aren't portals into an opposit world. And other optical illusions. Also the game zelda breath of the wild gives a perfect example of what a world would look like if it was flat. I found the game to be incredibly nasiating at first because the horizon was so different from earth. When being use to living on a ball it felt a lot like being in a bowl.

@fussel676

4 жыл бұрын

@@victorbahzad6194 you really talking about portals and a video game feeling wierd xD bruh! I screenshot this commrnt so hard!

Clock me liars! I’m waking up 100 tonight. I hate a lying wizard. HAPPY ANNIVERSARY

The moon, Jupiter, Mars, Neptune, Saturn and other planets are spherical but planet Earth is flat because a few idiots say so in the face of established science.

@HelmutBchron

4 жыл бұрын

John Maddin should i show you what stars look like? Should I? CAN YOU HANDLE IT. Your head will probably explode. Not so spherical after all. Lol. Total brainwashed idiots.

@op-pv2nn

4 жыл бұрын

John Maddin Pool balls are round and yet the table is flat.

@terminat1

4 жыл бұрын

Rather, the face of indoctrination.

@HelmutBchron

4 жыл бұрын

terminat1 what? You’re a novice magician? At least youre not ashamed to post it..bravo. Can you tell your buddies to quit faking space travel? Please.

@terminat1

4 жыл бұрын

@@HelmutBchronThey're not my buddies.

Activities that gives visual proof of round earth: Going up in a hot air ballon, skydiving, sailing, mountain climbing, cartography, astronomy, geometry, going up a building taller than 15 stories, long range marksmanship, building a sun dial, ham radio, and many more. Activities that prove flat earth: going on youtube and telling ppl to prove round earth and beating off to plates

@larebear1902

4 жыл бұрын

with a fisheye lens of course ...

@Gollvieg

4 жыл бұрын

@@larebear1902 Since flat earthers are both stupid and extremely lazy, they would never stop beating off to themselves and realize that anyone that goes outside and does any of those activities do not need a fisheye lens to confirm the roundness of the earth. It is very self-evident that the world is round due to the fact that you cannot see beyond the horizon no matter how high you go and see the other side of the planet. If the lazy flat earth morons wants to prove me wrong, go up in a hot air balloon and take a picture of Mt. Everest

@Gollvieg

4 жыл бұрын

@Chris Jones XD That is funny. Lucky for us they are too lazy to stop masturbating and go outside. It is a safe bet that if they are too stupid and lazy to research how to go to the one place on the planet that do not require a visa to go to, they would never actually go to Everest.

@hamsterlord8848

4 жыл бұрын

The horizon never drops, so you are clueless.

@Gollvieg

4 жыл бұрын

@@hamsterlord8848 XD I'm guessing you flunked out of geometry. You really need to do more research and go outside before you make a sweeping statement like that.

OK so if the world WAS FLAT then how come when astronauts go to the moon then HOW COME WHEN THEY RECORD THE EARTH THE OUTSIDE OF THE EARTH AND IT WAS A GLOBE!!!!!!!AND ALSO HOW COME NEIL ARMSTRONG AND HIS BUDDY NNNEEEEVVVEEERRR SAID THE WORLD WAS FLAT!!!!!!!

@TrueMohax

4 жыл бұрын

Garland Parks So they hung a fake Earth on the moon for a photo to prove that it was round? That sounds ridiculous, who cares about the Earths shape when humanity had literally just made history.

@crazyguy313youtubify

4 жыл бұрын

​@@TrueMohax​ I'm going to see if I have enough time to explore the actual sciences on this flat-round debate, calculating my rate of learning speed X expected Life Span, per video length. I may have to stick to short videos.

I harbor an irrational, cultish belief that it's pronounced "ROBOT HAM".

You do not pronounce the name right. Most English people pronounce it row bottom. The family pronounce r'BOW th'm

@Mick_The_Vid

5 жыл бұрын

Does he play Cricket?

@vvanderer

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mick_The_Vid Undoubtedly. Doesn't every gentlemen?

@sandsand5483

4 жыл бұрын

He's talking about after the cybernetic augmentation protocols were engaged. Rowbotham became Robo-Tham. What is little known about the Bedford level experiment was that no telescope was used, only his gleaming metallic eyes.

@vvanderer

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Good od Victorian cyber punk!!!

In the 19th century, one of the most famous scientists in the world took a bet to prove the world is a sphere. What should've been easy money turned into a protracted legal battle and ended up giving flat Earth belief a boost that persists to this day. And much of it can be blamed on atmospheric refraction, tabloid journalism, and an unusually flat stretch of river. Enjoy!

@epg96

5 жыл бұрын

Are you planning to open official instagram acc?

@ZackWolfMusic

5 жыл бұрын

@Mr Cheswick Amen to that well said.

@nunyabusiness4800

5 жыл бұрын

We can see small boats over 10 miles away on flat water... thats over 60 feet of curve. So is it a mirage from atmospheric distortion? Or is the object just simply and logically there in your vision?

@ZackWolfMusic

5 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabusiness4800 how are you adding in curvature?

@nunyabusiness4800

5 жыл бұрын

@@ZackWolfMusic i follow the 8 inches per mile squared method. But i know it well enough now that it works out as every 10 miles is 66 feet of curve roughly. No curve only flat water

3:21 we can’t let this slide why does his wife have a beard

@neoone9820

4 жыл бұрын

Are you trans phobic or something?

Why is there an explanation to disprove the flat earth experiment but not one to prove the round earth experiment?

@MrSirhcsellor

3 жыл бұрын

Well, because science is often not about proving things, that’s how you end up confirming bias, rather than actually reaching the objective truth. Science is best conducted through falsification, by doing everything we can to attempt at falsifying something, leaving only the objective truth left standing, as it’s the only thing that can not be falsified.

So this guy won the bet because he said it looks like the boat travels upwards as it’s coming closer and then down as it travels away, when this is simply the effect of human perspective. And now we confirm he was right because of how light refracts through the air, an effect that has never been proved nor studied…. Crazy how many of you believe this and back it up because it’s in favor of the globe yet there is no proof or facts provided.

Animation reminds me of infographics show a little bit.

There is no point on earth where the curvature goes up.

5:33 you mean a space ship

A couple of minor points, firstly Rowbotham may have been passionate but it could have been a passion motivated by money since he gave flat earth lectures charging an entrance fee. One lecture he had to leave in a hurry when he couldn't explain why ships disappeared bottom first as they went out to sea. That was when he invented his ridiculous 'persepctive' nonsense. Secondly the court did not rule Wallace hadn't won a bet to prove the Earth was a sphere, the case hinged on whether or not there was a contract or a wager, until 2005 the result of a wager was not legally enforceable in English law, the result of the experiment played no part. The court ruled it was a wager so the stake holder had to return the money to Hampden. Little that Rowbotham states can be taken as fact, he describes much that simply isn't true and experiments with their results that are mere invention.

@aceventura5398

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Surely you know a boat has to dissapere bottom first due to convergence. The bottom is closest to the waves or swelling on the water. Who is Hampdon ?

@grahvis

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@@aceventura5398. "Convergence", that is meaningless crap, a pathetic nonsense dreamed up by idiots and liars who can't abide being shown up for what they are. If you don't know who Hampden was, you don't know who Wallace was. I suggest you look them up.

@aceventura5398

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@@grahvis Convergence is seen every day. You see trees desending in height when viewing a tree line over a distance. The leaves of the trees are the last to dissapere, but the trunk hasnt been blocked by a curve. Its just the trunk is the least in height part of the tree so it is the first to diminish in size over the distance. Convergence is what prevents a 100 foot tree looking 100 foot from a mile away. Railway tracks converge over a distance to appear to meet. Convergence is just a fancy word for objects shrinking over distance. Please explaing how a tree at a distance doesnt appear to be as big as the tree your standing by without convergence.

@grahvis

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@@aceventura5398. None of that explains why part of the object should disappear before any other part. Particularly when it may be larger than those parts which can still be seen. It also does not explain why a ship partially hidden by the horizon, cannot be seen in its entirety using a telescope, no matter the magnification, it remains partially hidden. All you have done is make a claim, you cannot explain or prove your convergence nonsense.

@aceventura5398

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@@grahvis The tree at a distance appears to be just a few millimeters in height compared to a tree 100 feet up close. Its safe to say you will be seeing only the leaves of the tree at a great distance but not the trunk. But the tree up close is seen from top to bottom. Please explain how a tree at a great distance does not appear to be as tall as the tree up close without shrinkage/ convergence being aplied to the answer over a flat plane.