"w h a t i s y o u r f a v a r g u m e n t f o r g o d 's e x i s t a n c e a n d w h y ?"-🗿 *becomes eminem*

@GodIsALivingGod

2 жыл бұрын

😭😂😂

@tristan702

2 жыл бұрын

Im quite literally crying bro that was funny

@godovergovernment4454

2 жыл бұрын

🤣😂🤣 he lost me

@sksigil

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂 this is how you know they excited about the subject they are talking about 😂😂😂

@TwoStacks217

2 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious I wish somebody could edit Ben Shapiro's answer out and put the lyrics of rap God in

Man: speak at 0.75x Ben: speak at 2x

@chrisneu5133

Жыл бұрын

That's Fricking hysterical!!

@romitsu968

Жыл бұрын

Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.

@romitsu968

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisneu5133Yeshua(Jesus) the Christ loves you! Praise YHWH El Shaddai and may He bless you! Christ is the King of kings and Lord of lords! (YHWH - the LORD) (El Shaddai - God Almighty) To those who haven’t; Repent of your sins and believe on the Adon Jesus the Christ, believe in your heart that He has died for your sins and rose from the tomb on the third day and you shall receive the Holy Spirit of God and He shall dwell within you. You shall be saved. Be baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! - Jesus the Christ loves you, praise YHWH our Elohim - Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Adon Jesus the Christ.

@benjaminbawa5273

Жыл бұрын

Thought it was just me. 😹

@shroomba4180

Жыл бұрын

Hey man, you gotta get them answers out quick so he can answer the next one

He broke a record committing the most logical fallacy’s as fast as possible 😂

“I believe in god because of this other believe I have”

@zaierkaelt.villas6327

2 ай бұрын

Do you believe you have free will? No - Then there is a god Yes

@Majeed.

Ай бұрын

Saying a whole lot of nothing 😂 what a dimwit

@SirGoat-wr9ky

Ай бұрын

​@@zaierkaelt.villas6327You can believe you don't have free will without believing in a God. True free will is just as ignorant to believe in as it would be to believe in anything else. As Ben skimmed over during this discussion, although he did mention it briefly, biology and environmental factors influence the decision making of a person. True free will doesn't exist, because you really can't control anything in your life. This does not mean, however, that there is a magical, otherworldly, all seeing entity that is watching you and moving you around like a doll in a doll house. "If you don't control your will, and God doesn't control your will, who controls it?" Nobody does. Who controls the bears? The ants? The microorganisms? What makes them do what they do? That's right! Their biology and environment. Believe it or not, you are just an animal. That's all you are. People want to complicate things that seem too simple but when you die, that's it. If it brings you comfort to believe otherwise, that's fine too. The existence of any God is not something that can be disproven, just as how those suffering from psychotic delusions will always have some kind of explanation that they come up with. Just don't go telling me what I can and cannot do, making my life harder or looking to murder me because I don't follow your beliefs. Too many laws are being passed which ruin the lives of perfectly normal people, all because you and your group are forcing their religion on to other people.

@Absreal99

Ай бұрын

​@@zaierkaelt.villas6327 wrong

@dedeferreira98

21 күн бұрын

Everything is a believe.

" If you can't convince them confuse them " - Albert Einstein

@konstandinose.6695

Жыл бұрын

Sun Tzu

@alishbista1748

Жыл бұрын

​@@konstandinose.6695 art of war.❤

@shreeshanthkadam

Жыл бұрын

Exacct

@pleasantdashi7112

Жыл бұрын

if you can’t understand you’re lost

@LilXancheX

Жыл бұрын

@@pleasantdashi7112 you’re lost too

"If you can't convince them... confuse them"

@dogg92

2 жыл бұрын

Talk about using their own weapon against them, only they aren't intelligent enough to confuse anyone who doesn't want to be confused.

@michaelg7904

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason he was confusing is because you didn’t follow him.

@denisdelinger3265

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelg7904 Nah it's because he gave a really shitty argument quack-style.

@clementine7655

2 жыл бұрын

You being confused doesn’t make it a confusing statement. Just means you yourself can’t comprehend him. Many of us can

@clementine7655

2 жыл бұрын

@@denisdelinger3265 everyone says that for all arguments. What makes an argument bad is showing how it’s bad. Not calling it bad. You don’t get it and that’s okay. Just Don’t put the rest of us on that scale

As a Christian, this literally makes no sense 🤦

@RyanBranscum-pw4eu

4 ай бұрын

As well it shouldn't because nothing about Christianity or Christian "Logic" ever makes sense therefore it is all nonsense Make sense?

@girlbye4522

4 ай бұрын

​you'll never believe in God until u engage in witchcraft and meet a demon😂

@bushyytale736

4 ай бұрын

Can I ask you then? How would you explain to someone that you know God exists? I just want someone to give me a solid answer cuz this video sucksss lol

@girlbye4522

4 ай бұрын

@@bushyytale736 become witch or wizard and then go to a church full of christians praying in the name Jesus. and then watch how mad u will become.

@girlbye4522

4 ай бұрын

@@bushyytale736 JK.. Explaining Gods existence to ppl is so difficult because all ppl want from God are miracles as proof when he has proven himself so many times now. I think you should go watch testimonies of ppl who engaged in witchcraft but then had an interaction with Jesus Christ.. There's this Hispanic lady who said she used to be a witch who was on Michael Knowles channel. Search it up type "Michael Knowles witch became christian"

"My reason for my belief in god is my belief in something equally as difficult to reason"

Understanding what Ben says is the final test to prove that you’ve successfully mastered English as a second language.

@monsterincrement

Жыл бұрын

Lol😂

@invader8491

Жыл бұрын

Yay I understood everything he said

@danimoonie

Жыл бұрын

Yup hahaha

@ClashPanda-tc1ct

Жыл бұрын

​@@invader8491then what did he say?

@invader8491

Жыл бұрын

@ClashPanda-tc1ct what he's saying is that God created us with a purpose. That's why we have free will, and we're able to make independent choices. We are also capable of comprehending the truth behind Gods existence. However we don't actually know that truth (yet). We are only able to imagine what it can be, and that power of imagination is the work of God

Ben’s second job is reading the disclaimer at the end of radio ads.

@TNT-dn9es

Жыл бұрын

ngl, this made me giggle

@noname-by3qz

Жыл бұрын

😁😆😅🥰😂

@noname-by3qz

Жыл бұрын

​@@TNT-dn9es what's ngl?

@autonomouscollective2599

Жыл бұрын

@@noname-by3qz Text speak - not gonna lie

@TNT-dn9es

Жыл бұрын

@@noname-by3qz not gonna lie

A fly can choose to fly left or right. Ben: god exists.

@TheWheelsMaster

Ай бұрын

Ironically, to be Christian, you must believe that only humans have free will

@That_OneRandomGuy

Ай бұрын

​​@@TheWheelsMaster Thing that is also impossible with a god who knows everything. Funny how with the littlest of logic every single one of their arguments falls apart.

@TheWheelsMaster

Ай бұрын

@@That_OneRandomGuy The foreknowledge dilemma is definitely one of the best arguments against an Abrahamic God

@jay31415

22 күн бұрын

A fly chooses to fly left or right. Me: Unicorns exist.

@MrPresident_The_1st

15 күн бұрын

​@@That_OneRandomGuy if you actually use logic you will find out that God does exist and I even have an argument with logic I bet you can't disprove. Want to here? God bless you.

"my favorite argument for God's existence is that I BeLiEvE......"

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

bud it’s ok if you don’t understand everything he says 🤷‍♀️🙃

@theomaid

3 ай бұрын

God is real because yesterday I put 4 ice cubes in my drink instead of 3

@MeevinEdge

2 ай бұрын

​@@theomaidwhy did god decide to melt my ice thats so mean of him

@poatoman3376

Ай бұрын

You must believe in many things to live life. You must believe you don’t die today, that your surroundings won’t change drastically today, that there will remain constants in your life. None of these things are guaranteed but you believe them every day.

@itskarl7575

Ай бұрын

@@ShikayaBegay That is literally what he said. Note that he did NOT say he believes in God because we _have_ free will: he acknowledges that if you're an atheist and do _not_ believe in free will, then that is a coherent position. He is wrong to think there is somehow a contradiction between atheism and free will, but that's another discussion. The point is, he isn't even arguing for the existence of free will: his best argument for God is because he BELIEVES in free will. Which is not an argument.

This isn't an argument... it's a word salad.

@tacitozetticci9308

Жыл бұрын

nah it is an argument. If you believe in free will, that's very hard to justify without supernatural stuff and faith

@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek

Жыл бұрын

​@@tacitozetticci9308 sureeee😂😂😂😂😂

@Swifter315

Жыл бұрын

@Tacito Zetticci first off... free will? What kind? Even if we are talking about libertarian free will, how would that increase the likelihood of theism? How does free will being true entail supernatural? How does supernatural entail a God? The guy is just confused.

@JESUSWASALWAYSWHITE

Жыл бұрын

HELLO ALL WHITE PEOPLE JESUS LOVES YOU HE CARES FOR YOU REMEMBER YOUR LIVES MATTER REPENT AND ACCEPT YOUR SINS TO JESUS CHRIST AND REMEMBER THE NON WHITES THEY BREATHE ACT AND MAY LOOK HUMAN IT IS JUST DEMONS IN SKIN ITS ONLY US. AND WHEN JESUS COMES DOWN THEY WILL ALL RETURN TO HELL

@trichotillomaniac1959

Жыл бұрын

@@tacitozetticci9308 the slaves your Bible says I can have do not have free will. I just proved God doesn't exist by your logic and with your book.

It’s not that he talks fast, but he thinks that fast aswell

@apoptose1558

2 жыл бұрын

You can't output verbally what your mind can't produce in time.

@legate7158

2 жыл бұрын

try it on 0.5x speed. Drunk Shapiro is the best

@jonnybravvo4282

2 жыл бұрын

@@apoptose1558 correct. Proving that he thinks extremely fast. The man is sharp as heck

@Daily_Llama

2 жыл бұрын

I spent over 25 years in Corp Hospitality Management. It comes from being around a lot of moronic Lefties. They jump on quickly with ad hominem and asinine debate structures so you’ve got to establish your ground praxeologically and assertively. After you do that, they turtle up and listen to you interjecting with the infamous passive aggressive retort, “Interesting” but you’ve got to hammer them at the beginning and then they’ll roll over and let you scratch their docile subservient bellies with reality. They won’t say they’re wrong but they will say “Interesting” 😂

@CrapsGoodxD

2 жыл бұрын

what are you talking about, thoughts always go way faster than creating pressure differences in the air. its basically millions of electric pulses, versus trying to ripple the air around you for a single word.

bro never stops yapping

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

Neither do people who don’t understand him using big words

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

And he had a crowd of people in there to hear him “yap” and ask questions

@KD-vg2yn

5 күн бұрын

@@ShikayaBegayLol it’s fast word vomit so he can appear like a genius when all he is saying is that “I have free will so God must exist.” Which is a terrible argument.

his argument doesn't really prove anything, he doesn't really give any proof how free will --> god is real

@m0n0deferia

2 ай бұрын

Yet, this is his BEST argument. Thats how weak this whole thing is.

@thealtokid1012

Ай бұрын

@@m0n0deferia Absolutely agree. I don't even consider myself an atheist, but I'm still perplexed as how this is his strongest argument I mean it's just sad 🤦

@m0n0deferia

Ай бұрын

@@thealtokid1012 Which is your best?

@thealtokid1012

Ай бұрын

@@m0n0deferia the perfect set of circumstances that guarantees our existence is just too fucking amazing to be pure coincidence or chance. I've never experienced or encountered a higher being, but I don't think I'm capable of understanding what a "higher being" is either. figuring it out though

@m0n0deferia

Ай бұрын

@@thealtokid1012 Not sure how you can figure out stuff about something that may not exist. Regarding the "perfect set of circumstances", it seems to me that you are conflicting low probability with a miracle. Even conceding that these circumstances were the only possible ones to have life (not a fact at all), there are 3 trillion galaxies. Imagine how many planets are out there with the same characteristics.

“I don’t know how this works, therefore God.”

@wolfjay1343

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!

@fuckyoutube4398

Жыл бұрын

"I don't know how this works, therefore no God." -Atheists Cuts both ways, but the fact that scientists can not prove how we came from nothing (Big Bang Theory is just that, a theory) then they can't prove there is no God.

@Antimanele104

Жыл бұрын

​@@fuckyoutube4398 That and also the fact that the Universe is so huge and probably has several dimensions in which God or a divine being can reside. Which leads me to another paradox: most scumbag atheists are willing to admit the existence of alien lifeform in the Universe, but the existence of a God? No, impossible!

@justusP9101

Жыл бұрын

​@@fuckyoutube4398 by your logic god is a theory too. Altrough a much less believable one

@Al-xq4ec

Жыл бұрын

​@@fuckyoutube4398 so if there is god. Which one is it than?

I'm proud of my English listening skills :)

@mikewilson8813

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@nicholaskun604

Жыл бұрын

Fr and I listened to it three times too damnit

@nori_tutor

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaskun604 lol

@jennamarie2207

Жыл бұрын

dude literally it took me a long time to be able to keep up with him, Jordan Peterson and even Ravi Zacharias but i’m so glad i learned

@eavesdropper0

Жыл бұрын

Factssssssss

Best example of "You can say a lot and mean nothing"

@tshred666

10 ай бұрын

For sure. Especially if he wants to argue in favor of his preferred god being real, because if YHWH is omniscient, then free will does not exist because that means everything that has happened, is currently happening, and will eventually happened has been preordained by him and unfolding according to his design. If there is free will, then it is impossible for god to be omniscient.

@ShyGuy095

10 ай бұрын

The classical Shapiro Style of existence.

@Ybby999

10 ай бұрын

He actually said some stuff here, listen to it again

@user-yz3kv9hw7y

9 ай бұрын

U a 🤡

@mobhiro_

9 ай бұрын

​@@tshred666Your lack of knowledge about God is crazy. God doesn't control your decisions.

I swear this man’s defense tactic is to talk really fast and pray nobody breaks down what he says logically

@lennaymaboyyy4848

8 ай бұрын

that is his main tool tbh, he could’ve said his argument in a much simpler way and without all the filler, but then everyone there would realize how stupid of an argument it really is

@Matriarch_

8 ай бұрын

Right 😂😂😂speedy Gonzalez while Ben talks a thousand miles a minute for nothing

@zachshield5187

8 ай бұрын

I like to think his defense tactic is distraction with the diff sized eyebrows

@SKRIE.

8 ай бұрын

@@zachshield5187don’t violate Benny boys eyebrows like that 😂😭

@GomoGomoNo696

8 ай бұрын

Yea but to be fair ones he's talking about trans people he's spitting facts To bad that he sounds just like a dumb muslim trying to explain his religion whenever he talks about religion...

Ah yes, God of the Gaps is also my favorite argument for God (as an atheist)

Did he dis-prove his own argument?

"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent" -Qui-Gon Jinn

@2u29wjiowk2iswj

8 ай бұрын

Yousa speaking real factas der.

@gerardoperez7612

7 ай бұрын

What’s your point?

@sethforesi307

7 ай бұрын

@@gerardoperez7612he didn’t understand anything he said because he has comprehension issues

@ryantogo8359

7 ай бұрын

​@@sethforesi307no, it's because Ben's argument is a dumb one

@sethforesi307

7 ай бұрын

@@ryantogo8359 I’m an atheist, and I would say what he said is thought provoking, not really a fan of his either though I don’t dislike him

my guy's chatting faster than an Animal Crossing character

@itsme09-12-0V

Жыл бұрын

It's like he was already expecting this question and memories that answer from home 😂

@ChristiantRumpanzeTroglodyte

Жыл бұрын

He's a nice Jewish boi

@buradley1733

Жыл бұрын

Geniuses speak faster than the average individual.

@tylersoto7465

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Tom hook will pay lol

@dannykilgore278

Жыл бұрын

He’s high on that Sephardic Jew snow ( I’m myself Jewish )

If you listen closely and you aren’t an idiot, you can hear him say absolutely nothing.

@somerandomdoge12

Ай бұрын

He makes a good point imo but if you cant understand what hes saying i think thats on you

@leonquade

7 күн бұрын

​@@somerandomdoge12His point makes like no sense at all.

@somerandomdoge12

7 күн бұрын

@@leonquade His argument is if you have free will then there is a god otherwise your actions are just a result of whatever happens inside you, which would mean you are not free

Free Will is an illusion

My man can become a rapper so easily bruh.

@Nokoolaid_

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@ActUp

Жыл бұрын

talking fast means you can rap

@ASRJ461

Жыл бұрын

@@ActUp Well yeah haven't you heard what rap has morphed into? I don't listen to that nonsense personally rap has became terrible in recent years.

@V_Araya

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@riderreviews3737

Жыл бұрын

He's not m&n, he's White Skittles

I've listened to this a couple times. I'm more confused now than before.

@extremelynormalperson

Жыл бұрын

Because this "argument" is a non sequitur, lol. I'm actually really surprised they uploaded this embarrassing clip.

@harsha6937

Жыл бұрын

Just because you don't understand That doesn't mean the argument is bad The problem is with you

@extremelynormalperson

Жыл бұрын

@@harsha6937 lol not at all. He makes no argument and just gish-gallops. He brings up free will and never makes a point with it. The problem is with you, and everyone else who thinks he made some kind of point, when he really didn't.

@harsha6937

Жыл бұрын

@@extremelynormalperson would you like to listen I will explain briefly and in simple terms Hopefully your brain then can comprehend I can say it in simple terms for you Shall I? I will wait till your reply

@extremelynormalperson

Жыл бұрын

@@harsha6937 it's okay, I got it 👍 So, Ben starts by bringing up his belief in free will, which implies that he's going to continue by explaining his argument that libertarian free will is evidence for god's existence - but then he immediately starts making a different point that a disbelief in libertarian free will is a nihilistic world view (by saying that if you don't believe in libertarian free will, then you are inherently a nihilist who believes we are "just balls of meat wandering around aimlessly" is a conflation of two different arguments, which Ben does often) and then he just continues this statement by saying "there's a coherence and logic to that" which makes absolutely no sense, and I think he meant to say the opposite. If he said "incoherence" then it would make much more sense. I think he might have just misspoke, which happens to the best of us so I'll just grant him a mistake. Also, I will point out the fact that he just doesn't conclude that statement. He basically said "if you don't believe in free will, then - ...." and he just moves on without concluding his premise. So he just drops the nihilism argument and continues his initial statement on libertarian free will, saying that it "can't be proven by science," which is a totally baseless claim. It's not that it "can't be proven by science," but that all the science we do have just doesn't back it up. Only 18.6% of philosophers believe in libertarian free will, because it's largely rejected but that's not the same as being unprovable by science, as he claims. So apparently, Ben believes in something based on his feelings, rather than the facts. Ironic huh? At this point, Ben's "best argument for God" has been him saying "if you believe in libertarian free will, then you believe in something that is scientifically bankrupt," which... is not even an argument for God, lol. If anything he's just contradicting himself. After that, he brings up the Correspondence Theory of Truth, and then just asserts - with no proof - that god is the basis for all truth. He just... Asserts it. After ALL that talk about free will, he doesn't even conclude his point using the free will argument at all. WHY DID HE EVEN BRING IT UP? lol it makes no sense. The Correspondence Theory of Truth is compatible with all views on free will, even though Ben words his argument as if it isn't. So to recap, Ben's BEST ARGUMENT FOR GOD is that he believes in free will, he conflates nihilism and a lack of belief in libertarian free will, he does NOTHING with those free will arguments, and then just baselessly claims that the existence of objective truth is backed by god. Wow. Basically, he just says a non-sequitur. So there you go, I hope I explained it simply for you!

As an atheist.... I really don't care just leave us alone

Dude nodding and agreeing knowing DAMN WELL 😂😂😂😂

It’s incredible how he can say so many words while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing.

@andrewnguyen3312

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@delpperez6011

Жыл бұрын

Agreed!! Empty words: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kap6ucibZJzepdI.html

@Tom-vt4pw

Жыл бұрын

Not only nothing but all bullshit

@edwardsroba

Жыл бұрын

Its all they are taught in schools. Incredible really.

@wholenewszn

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!!😂😂

this gotta be the worst argument for God's existence 💀 as a theist

@SirLuckySlime

7 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry that so many people make y'all look this bad As an agnostic

@sentientglitch

7 ай бұрын

@@SirLuckySlime lmao its fine

@tanlimgreendaless2839

7 ай бұрын

god exists. god is science itself but god's story is a mere folklore

@sentientglitch

7 ай бұрын

@@tanlimgreendaless2839 Science is not a being, science is just explaining the natural world, it does not have a consciences? So how can it be God? Not even saying there needs to be a creator, but there needs to be a supernatural cause for the universe otherwise it leads to defying science itself or logic. And why would do you belive the 'story of God' is folklore?

@tanlimgreendaless2839

7 ай бұрын

@@sentientglitch science is the only one relied give us info on the world and never gave the wrong answer. The story of god is supernatural and won't happen

"I believe in free will. Well, i have no choice." Christopher Hitchens.

If science cannot prove God does not exist, that is a good start.

Something is definitely making me look at his eye brow more than I should.

@zerbstablackthunder3514

2 жыл бұрын

They're fine thick eyebrows.

@Dino-ns9jx

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@cinthyasalas2360

2 жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one 😂

@Bise270

2 жыл бұрын

Me too😅

@bobbieclark4313

Жыл бұрын

Thanks....now I keep looking and can't look away. "Balls of meat running around" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

If that is his favourite argument, I don’t want to know his least favourite

@kraken_8

2 ай бұрын

His least favorite is probably personal experience Tell me your response to his argument rather than making fun of it 😂

@wualia

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@kraken_8funnily humans having free will is the biggest contradiction for god's existence. an omniscient god and human's supposed free will both contradict each other. If god already knows your future that means your fate has been decided when time started. You have no free will

@kraken_8

2 ай бұрын

@@wualia god knowing your future doesn’t infringe free will. He may know it that doesn’t mean he’ll stop you. I can be free to do something wrong; god knows I’ll do it wrong, but unless God prevents me from actually doing it I’m still free to do it so both actually can simultaneously exist. Think of it like the British policy of Salutary Neglect. They knew that the American colonists weren’t allowed to trade with other countries besides Britain, and they knew that the Americans did it anyway, but they ignored it and allowed them to do it even though they weren’t supposed to so that it would bring about a greater good in America by allowing the local economy to grow

@kraken_8

2 ай бұрын

@@wualia your argument skips a few steps. Humans have free will, therefore they can commit evil. So god being omniscient means he knows humans do and will do wicked things. This means that god allows evil because he is too weak or because he is himself evil. The problem with this, however, is that a weak god isn’t god so god must not exist if this were the case. And god cannot be evil because by virtue of creating the world he created the concept of goodness; therefore god must be good since the idea of goodness would have to come from god if he exists. However; god can exist if he allows evil for a third reason; to bring about a greater good, like the British with Salutary Neglect. We call this providence. So therefore the argument that free will disproves god is flawed, since it allows for a case in which god can exist which an argument seeking to disprove god should not do.

@teoi3907

Ай бұрын

Oh my god

It is said blud is still yapping to this day🔥🔥🔥💀

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

Yup because he has actual people who want to hear him “yap “ bc he is educated which is more than can be said about you

@SOULAANI_

2 күн бұрын

@@ShikayaBegayno they want to hear him because he says what they want to hear lol.

That's not a logical argument, it's just a belief. Free will is disprovable by logic. (Read about "hard incompatibility problem")

He just spat out a word salad that made no real logical argument.

@Magns-AI-m

Жыл бұрын

Well It did but your capacity to handle that much pure logical information that fast is not comparable. It is an illogical to you and you both are right, but in your own personal perspectives!

@akadetrorjk

Жыл бұрын

​@@Magns-AI-m Explain it then

@Magns-AI-m

Жыл бұрын

I have check my comment in the comments section!

@ejakeulater4990

Жыл бұрын

@@Magns-AI-m just because someone says something fast doesn’t make it smart. He just went on a rant where he said nothing that backs up his view point

@Magns-AI-m

Жыл бұрын

@@ejakeulater4990 something that is not backed up by facts or research papers doesn’t reflects smartness! Scientists don’t even know how our brain works, they don’t even have 1% information about how brain functions! If the so called scientists don’t have any Fukin idea It doesn’t mean that our brain is just a meat ball! Don’t just relly on so called research’s, sometimes just open you mind and thoroughly think about it what the information actually means

that was literally just word spaghetti

@sentientmlem727

3 ай бұрын

People are really throwing out "word spaghetti" without knowing what it means these days.

@joshuaneal7552

3 ай бұрын

@@sentientmlem727 Enlighten us.

@delayedcreator4783

2 ай бұрын

@@sentientmlem727 he meant word salad , there you go

@Aurora-jw4qf

2 ай бұрын

lol ofcourse because you don’t have the life experience or knowledge to understand what he said. You just proved the point why you didn’t get it.

@delayedcreator4783

2 ай бұрын

@@Aurora-jw4qf oh ....care to explain what he said ?

15,000 babies are born with leukemia and half of them, die by the age of two… Who’s free will that?

@emesass5959

7 күн бұрын

Interesting point but it has nothing to do with free will. Our Original Parents (Adam and Eve) Caused Us to Suffer “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men.”​-ROMANS 5:12. Jesus died to gain back what Adam lost. Imperfect humans get sick, old and die but that is not God's plan for mankind. Free will allows each person to worship God or choose not to.

This is so wrong it’s actually insane. You can prove this wrong by looking at your dog. A dog has biological urges that can literally be trained out of them. You can TRAIN a dog to not do things such as hump, bite, kill, etc. Society made this possible in humans. We were trained to see that we are not our urges, and can have control over them. It’s simple logic.

… that’s not even a valid argument.

This is perhaps the worst argument I’ve ever heard. He’s just babbling nonsense to confuse people.

@nskdhekahgfd

8 ай бұрын

Literally lmao, its not even coherent

@4maz1ng_king

8 ай бұрын

He used an even worse argument in a video with a chat ai.

@exnihilonihilfit6316

8 ай бұрын

Agreed. Total b.s.

@limitedhangoutlive

8 ай бұрын

He's really not, but okay. Atheists have to play the vegans of the internet whenever they see anything even remotely about God so they can feel intelligent to bunch of strangers. Try to think what it would be like outside your perspective that is a perspective limited by your existence. You can't. Everything from the color you see to the universe you examine, is contextualized by your brain which is a literal product of the universe itself. Now explain to me what a thought is. What are emotions? What are feelings? This idea that materialism can account for immaterial things is just ridiculous. There is a dimension we're not tapped into willingly and whether that dimension drives free will and is considered God, or a simulation, or anything else, it is still outside the bounds of the reality we know or understand. There must be something, call it whatever you want. The ONLY thing I dislike about modern science and its cohorts is how quickly they are willing to kill philosophy.

@callnight1441

8 ай бұрын

Yeah. At first i was like "ok, here we go". Then i was like "huh?"

REMINDER: if someone speaks fast that doesn’t mean that they’re right or smart

@parker6936

Жыл бұрын

It does in this case though 😉

@Iscariote4921

Жыл бұрын

​@@parker6936 how

@RichardsGaySon

Жыл бұрын

Ben shapiro is a perfect example of someone who speaks in a way that seems intelligent but his actual arguments are terrible

@parker6936

Жыл бұрын

@@RichardsGaySon Pretty good argument to me

@kmurphy0620

Жыл бұрын

@@parker6936 lol

If this is his best argument for God's existance, then his other arguments must be TERRIBLE

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

Hmm so what’s the best argument that God doesn’t exist? “I can’t see him”? Oh! Maybe it’s “bad things happen to good people, a God wouldn’t allow that”! Is it that one? I would really like to know

You could make the same argument for the Flying Spaghetti Monster

What a incredible nonsensical statement

"Explain God's existence" *starts to Rap

@roycewolf1268

Жыл бұрын

@user1719j 💯 everything around you proves that God exist.

@Paul-ts5qw

Жыл бұрын

@@roycewolf1268 False.

@roycewolf1268

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-ts5qw explain

@jorgetena9362

Жыл бұрын

Shapiro exposed his flaws in reasoning with this video.

@Paul-ts5qw

Жыл бұрын

@@roycewolf1268 Explain what? There's no credible evidence for any god ever existing.

>Neurobiology left the chat >Dictionary entered the chat >logic left the chat

@bears_fan-_-

9 ай бұрын

Only when you started talking

@Broc_Obama

7 ай бұрын

@@bears_fan-_- bro got his feelings hurt

@bears_fan-_-

7 ай бұрын

@@Broc_Obama Yup I am crying 😢

@Broc_Obama

7 ай бұрын

@bears_fan-_- yeah I can tell

@kabuky1256

5 ай бұрын

none of these things actually prove why we have free will...

This guys voice is so annoying, 3 seconds into speaking, i paused the video and hid from him in the comments

I've just realized he keeps all that knowledge in his Eyebrows

@ActorsReal2Reel

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@Kkvng_Nova

2 жыл бұрын

I was sitting here like "damn that was deep. I wonder what the comments sa....🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀"

@Snow111.

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kkvng_Nova I was sitting here like, damn that was deep, I 🤔wonder what "he was saying"🤣,...................... Just playing, I love Ben 😉

@tyzaerobinson4037

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@cringyname638

2 жыл бұрын

He’s like Samson but instead of the strength being in his hair it knowledge in his eyebrows

As someone who believes in God, I have no idea what he’s saying Edit- why the heck are you all arguing. Go read the Bible and debate yourself 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

@forexdissector9565

2 жыл бұрын

@S i R k A hes making the assumption that free will has anything to do with a god or creator of some sort. Although he may be right, this is just an opinion/belief of his and doesnt prove anything.

@zavdab5238

2 жыл бұрын

since you and other living things have ability for independent thoughts = existence of God? I don't get it either

@J0hn.R

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment the same. I don’t understand if he believes in God or not but he’s Jewish and practices their religion so I guess he does.

@Bi0Dr01d

2 жыл бұрын

@@forexdissector9565 I believe his argument is deeper than that. We shouldn't be so quick to dismiss what he's saying but listen closely and try to walk the path of that train of thought to understand what he's saying, because I do believe it's deeper.

@LeonelHMbaho

2 жыл бұрын

@@forexdissector9565 no I disagree with you. And I think that he is making the case that free will stands upon an objective common reality.

I’m still waiting for the arguement 💀

@LawfulChaotic1

23 сағат бұрын

So you weren’t listening.

To everyone claiming this to be an illogical word salad, or accusing Ben of being unable to make a thorough argument, I would like to point out that his argument is much deeper than many might think. It appears he is paraphrasing Boutroux’s (19th century French philosopher) argument against philosophical materialism in which he claims that reality cannot be boiled down to matter governed by physical laws, since free will exists and free will is not governed by external forces. Boutroux together with Ravaisson-Mollier and Bergson (for certain aspects) can be ascribed to the philosophical movement called “(Christian) French spiritualism”. They all made very interesting and logical points that I invite everyone to thoroughly read and study, and not just say “illogical word salad” without actually having put the effort in to understand them: this won’t make you smarter or cooler, just dumber and lazier. Actually try to understand their point, worse case scenario you’ll disagree with them with an actual understanding of the issue

I am the person who asked this question! Pretty cool experience! I study Philosophy and was expecting Ben to talk about a typical Theistic argument like the Contingency argument or Kalam Cosmological argument. I was surprised when he went the Free Will route. He couldn't flesh it out in the time that was given, but I think his answer is certainly worth thinking about. No way he sees this but thanks Ben for answering my question! (I know it wasn’t a great answer people but perhaps it could have been fleshed out with more time)

@EnnisOracion

2 жыл бұрын

NICEEEE

@KeredAglo

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty cool, have you expounded on his answer yet? So many people in the comments are taking his answer in a very 2 deminsional way, as a fumble or a stupid answer but I find it as a good thought experiment to expand upon. Would love to hear what you think.

@craftcastings723

2 жыл бұрын

Lol what? Your book knowledge is disrupting your actual existence

@skyglitcher4355

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeredAglo what made u think that it was a good , this was quite literally one of the worst arguments for god's existence. It pretty much says i have free well therefore god exists.

@javiermariscal5712

2 жыл бұрын

@@KeredAglo I don't think it's a stupid answer at all, but it seemed very short and I did not expect that answer, which is why I never questioned him on it or anything (I was also quite nervous). Funnily enough I was taking a Free Will class when this event happened. Free Will is legitimately a massive problem in Philosophy and has been for thousands of years. I don't think what Ben said is an actual argument, it's just pointing people to the idea that if materialism (Physical matter is all there is) is true we do not have Free Will because everything is just cause and effect and we are completely determined. Most Philosophers are Compatibalists, meaning they are determinists but think that determinism is reconcilable with the existence of Free Will. I personally don't see how that's possible unless you define Free Will as basically just not being coerced (which I think is way too weak) but that is a separate and giant debate. Overall, I think Ben is getting at something important and it has potential to really make materialists think about the implications of their opinion and possibly could be a premise in an argument for God's existence. But it seems like an argument against materialism, not really for God. You can be an Atheist and not be a materialist (though that is certainly not a common opinion imo). So I stand by my comment, it is worth thinking about. Many Atheists are materialists so convincing an Atheist that materialism is not true may open the door to God. BUT he didn't really say what I was looking for tbh. I was looking for a tried and true Theistic argument like the Contingency Argument or a Cosmological argument because I was really wondering which one was his favorite. (sorry for long answer those are the thoughts from a student who is just learning).

"My favorite argument for god's existence is that I can't explain how humans make decisions."

@dorbdorb25

Жыл бұрын

@@pascualandra8 I can explain how humans make decisions without a god. It’s sooooo simple. We evolved to feel pain. We are social creatures. We do things that avoid pain to ourselves and others. We don’t kill people because our society has found it best to exile those who do that. We treat each other with respect because those in our society that respect others (a lot of the time) receive the same respect back. You can’t just say, “there’s no way humans can be moral without god” that’s so dumb. We obviously can. The most moral people I know are secular. Life is complex. There are things we can attribute to god, but eventually we find out that those things weren’t god, but a misunderstood natural phenomena of our world and universe. We can’t say, “god did it” until we have a reason to say that. And I feel like we don’t.

@jonathantaylor1863

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment 😭💀

@thecommenter9678

Жыл бұрын

The evidence for free will is shown by the fact that it is observed and true. The existence of god has no such observable proof. This is another BS religious argument. Religion is the Conservatives worst weakness, they use it to justify their points, rather then the MASSIVE amount of facts and data they have that actually DO support their arguments, and they loose bandwidth every time they utter god as a reason for anything. It only turns people away who might otherwise listen. Religious arguments only serve to appeal to those who already agree with you, it's an echo chamber tactic.

@joshuahaney5761

Жыл бұрын

@@dorbdorb25u life is pointless bro u didn’t hear him with ur ignorance!

@joshuahaney5761

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathantaylor1863stupid comment that’s y it’s underrated!👍🤦‍♂️

Bro got that last minute memory from exams!😂

Im a atheist And im pretty sure dis is a sign of evolution then god doing this

"My favorite argument is I believe..." You already lost.

@laimejannister5627

10 ай бұрын

“trust me bro"

@jdos5643

10 ай бұрын

No. He is right. Free will is God given just like God ingrained in all ppl a moral compass or right and wrong called the conscience.

@laimejannister5627

10 ай бұрын

@@jdos5643 so sociopaths are gods failure then

@pdcdesign9632

10 ай бұрын

@@jdos5643 FREE RENDERS YOUR GOD IRRELEVANT. *********************

@Brother8237

10 ай бұрын

@@jdos5643 no free will is a process that your brain takes in order to give you better chance at survival because it allows you to manipulate the world around so you can live better. And sometimes this part of your brain allows you to overcome and deny natural instincts when necessary because it can predict and process what might happen if you don’t do something so it forces you to do it out of natural survival instinct. The reason most other animals don’t have this ability is because they’re brains can’t process as quick and think as far ahead as our brains do. I’m not denying god because nobody actually knows if they are real or not for sure. I’m just stating facts that are proven in a simplistic form.

Wait, he literally just said absolutely nothing in that argument

@pauljarrell8162

6 ай бұрын

Because you are not capable of understanding that most likely due to the fact that you have no desire to understand something that could potentially challenge your belief. What he said, requires an understanding of sorts. If you think, he said nothing, then you will not be the pioneer or the doer of anything, or the thinker of anything different.

@samuelforce7883

6 ай бұрын

Exactly, essentially he said "if you believe A, then god exists" what he says isn't an argument, it's an attempt to convince a particular person of god

@Shakawkaw

6 ай бұрын

​@@pauljarrell8162Tell me what he is saying? Because he offers no argument for the existence of a one God other than "if you believe there are universal rules, there is a God"?

@raulzavala4546

6 ай бұрын

​@@pauljarrell8162it's funny to see stupid people think they're smarter than others because they don't get it haha (I agree w you laughing at the others)

@OriginalKarasu

6 ай бұрын

he very often says absolutely nothing, but talks fast and vomits lots and lots of words, that makes it seem like he is smart -_-'

Ben just speaks nonesense and can't debate. How the hell did anything he just said prove there is a God?

Ben is so intelligent but he literally describes how free will is an illusion but somehow turns into a reason for god

I like how the top comments on Ben's own channel openly mock him

@immadomenow

9 ай бұрын

If they can't beat him, they'll bully him. That's all they can do. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@madgaming-kb4vc

9 ай бұрын

@@immadomenow 😂😂 weirdo

@padhlebhai-mi2nd

9 ай бұрын

lets be really honest , he really deserved it in this one , as his argument was baseless and to make himself seem right , he made it really complicated @@immadomenow

@plantboy6249

9 ай бұрын

@@padhlebhai-mi2nd Double Speak at its finest.

@CasualCat64

8 ай бұрын

@@madgaming-kb4vcironic

Why is Messi the best footballer in the world? "Because I went to camping last Saturday"

@allevosyndicate2475

8 ай бұрын

Your brain can't comprehend what was just said. I blame your parents because they were probably air heads too

@romitsu968

8 ай бұрын

You seem to lack understanding. Confess the Lord Jesus Christ with your mouth and believe in your heart that He died for your sins on the cross and God raised Him from the dead on the third day; repent of your sins and be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit! Evidence for Jesus Christ’s existence, crucifixion, and disappearance from the tomb (He rose from it): The Lord Jesus Christ did exist, gathered disciples, and was crucified and went missing from the tomb. To argue about wether He was taken from the grave or rose from it, is an argument a skeptic can make. Because well if you disregard the eye witness testimony of the disciples and there willingness to die for Christ, and humans won’t die for something they know is a lie, when Peter is pinned upside down to that cross, he could have said that it was a fake, but He didn’t because it wasn’t, what care would he have about death in this world if he knew for a fact he had assurance of a life in another, Jesus Christ did rise from the tomb and is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Now the evidence for the Lord Jesus Christ’s existence really isn’t hard to find a multitude of non-Christian scholars and historians mention Him within 150 years after the time of His life. One such is Tacitus a Roman historian who reported on emperor nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed rome in 64 AD. Tacitus wrote: “Nero fastened the guilt ... on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of ... Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome…” In this Tacitus makes reference to not only Christians, but Christ calling Him Christus and confirming the Gospels going on to say that He suffered the extreme penalty (crucifixion) under the reign of Tiberius and by the sentence of Pontius Pilate, which like I said confirms the Gospels narrative. Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians. Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity. At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians: “They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food - but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.” This passage provides a number of interesting insights into the beliefs and practices of early Christians. First, we see that Christians regularly met on a certain fixed day for worship. Second, their worship was directed to Christ, demonstrating that they firmly believed in His divinity. Furthermore, one scholar interprets Pliny's statement that hymns were sung to Christ, "as to a god", as a reference to the rather distinctive fact that, "unlike other gods who were worshipped, Christ was a person who had lived on earth." If this interpretation is correct, Pliny understood that Christians were worshipping an actual historical person as God! Of course, this agrees perfectly with the New Testament doctrine that Jesus was both God and man. You may have heard of the scholar Flavius Josephus who mentioned James as being the brother of the Lord Jesus Christ, which matches what Paul said calling James “The Lord’s brother” and there is another document that Josephus may have written which goes: “About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he ... wrought surprising feats.... He was the Christ. When Pilate ...condemned him to be crucified, those who had . . . come to love him did not give up their affection for him. On the third day he appeared ... restored to life.... And the tribe of Christians ... has ... not disappeared.” Now it’s up to debate wether this is the entirely original document of what Josephus wrote, or if a Christian had edited it. But regardless he wrote about the Lord Jesus Christ. Wether it was negative or positive like the possible document is. Anyways there are many other statements, documents, letters, and writings of all sorts from the ancient world talking about the Lord Jesus Christ and there is not one question if He was a real person or if He was crucified and went missing from the grave. That is clear as day, He is a real person, was crucified, and went missing from the grave. And He did rise from the grave. And for more evidence of the Lord Jesus Christ, there’s the Bible and you see there is no evidence the Bible is corrupted, a lie, created by the Roman government, folktale. It is the recount of the Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ, now wether you want to believe it is up to you. And what profit was there in spreading Christianity, All the early Christian suffered persecution, beatings, and were killed. Another Scholar reported that James the Lord’s Brother was thrown off a building and then stoned to death for spreading the Gospel in Jerusalem. These people went to great lengths even giving their own lives for the Lord Jesus Christ.

@chukwudifuagbasi4373

7 ай бұрын

😂

@judeodell9449

7 ай бұрын

Except make sure you say it really fast and use big words

@trichotillomaniac1959

7 ай бұрын

Because you have an opinion he is. Don't back anything up, just talk fast and give opinions. That's all the evidence his brain dead supporters need

I’ve always been a believer but my parents weren’t religious so I’ve never been a devout Christian. Now I am married with a daughter and it’s calling me more than ever. The world is completely backwards. True Christianity is needed now more than ever.

Well, this is such a lame and incoherent argument.

This is literally just "I believe in God because I believe in God".

@thewizardofodd6880

Жыл бұрын

He’s saying that everything we do is not programmed. Hence Free will. Free will is the act of no one- not even god- controlling us. If you were to say “Science can’t prove god isn’t real! Where’s the evidence!?” We could say the same about free will. Who’s to say we’re not controlled? You can’t confirm that through science, but you know that we aren’t.

@soundmindtv2911

Жыл бұрын

"I believe my gender is fluid because I believe my gender is fluid" 😂

@sockpastarock7082

Жыл бұрын

@@thewizardofodd6880 we don't know that we aren't. There's no way to know if we do or do not have free will. It's an unfalsifiable question. Ben has faith that we have free will and tries to use that as a reason to believe in God. So he is using blind faith in free will to justify blind faith in god. This is why his logic is circular. The other problem with this argument is that even if we could prove that we have free will, that doesn't prove that God exists. We can have free will without any god existing.

@sockpastarock7082

Жыл бұрын

@@soundmindtv2911 so someone's gender fluidity is just as valid as your religion.

@thewizardofodd6880

Жыл бұрын

@@sockpastarock7082 Also untrue. Because we were BORN a certain gender, regardless of how many genders we think we are. And as for what you said, if we WERE controlled, how would we have mental illnesses? Or for that matter, different genders than what we are?

Since Ben's eyebrows have equally as much free will as he does, then God definitely exists dude

@philh98

2 жыл бұрын

You heard it here folks

@vikstar123.4

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqymy7dripe4hNo.html it finally here guys

@Chameleon_Effect74

2 жыл бұрын

LMFAO!

@moonszol4486

2 жыл бұрын

the disrespect 😂 homie Ben made a good point tho.

@nickmacias00

2 жыл бұрын

@@moonszol4486 he really didn’t, freewill has nothing to do with god, there is no such thing as free will, you only have as much freedom as the country you live in allows.

Very poor argument. And it's his "favourite" one.

Crongrats, thats an incredibly bad argument

When it comes to god/religion, Ben Shapiro suddenly cares more about feelings than facts.

@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges

2 жыл бұрын

Militant atheists tend to be the most emotional people I see.

@nick_sometin7791

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges I'm black

@TheGuitarded1

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges Nice strawman argument.

@80xdplays88

2 жыл бұрын

@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges well that doesn't really prove that your right. That just proves your ignorant.

@Bob-kn7nc

2 жыл бұрын

@Why wasn't I born in the middle ages? 1. Says the ones who cry when their favorite religious figure does something and think it’s spiritually enlightening 2. This isn’t the early 2000s, “militant atheists” are long gone

There's not enough talk about the insane folical density of Ben Shapiro's eyebrows.

@skollybob

Жыл бұрын

Lol I was just thinking the same

@poppasquata2760

Жыл бұрын

you're not wrong but why you gotta call it that 😂💀 folical density

"What's your favourite argument for god's existence?" "I believe in free will" Oh, so you've nothing and believe it because your feelings are more important than reality. Got it Ben.

My favorite argument as to the existence of the sun? It comes up every day and I see it with my own eyes.

@Atheisttandpatriotic

2 ай бұрын

I felt its warmth and light

"My best argument for gods existence is that I believe in free will"

@corvoattano9303

Жыл бұрын

I know, terrible logic. He should've been less sloppy.

@uwaisal-qarni8364

Жыл бұрын

​@@corvoattano9303 🥱

@8thMusketeer

Жыл бұрын

Free will is an undeniable fact. So which is more rational and logical? Our intelligent conscious minds capable of free will being created by a higher intelligent mind, or our conscious intelligent minds being created by mindless natural forces? The latter seems far less rational right off the bat.

@corvoattano9303

Жыл бұрын

@@8thMusketeer Please lay out your argument proving free will.

@8thMusketeer

Жыл бұрын

@@corvoattano9303 Human intuition/ human nature. If someone were to murder your family, would you feel anger toward the murderer? If free will doesn't exist, you have NO rational reason to be mad at them. You would have to admit that they would just be acting on external cause and effects reacting to the chemicals in their brain. If that's the case, it's utterly pointless and irrational to be mad at them. After all, it isn't really their fault right? They didn't make the free choice to kill your family.

"Sir this is a Wendy's"

@Nokoolaid_

Жыл бұрын

fur😂

@Wearenotfriendsxo

Жыл бұрын

i’m fucking dying lmfaooooooo

I'm 100% behind this god and his confessions of atrocities against the human race as outlined in the Bible.

Wow, what a delusional answer. 🤦

Him: talking Me: damn he got thick eyebrows

@kaerligheden

2 жыл бұрын

I was watching his eyebrows too 😂

@ghitarakik8508

2 жыл бұрын

They are gorgeous. He is a beautiful man

@evelynordonez6420

2 жыл бұрын

Hysterical 🤣

@Stargazer9933

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghitarakik8508 Yes. Ben Shapiro is a beautiful man, who also has a very beautiful mind. 🧠

@iam5759

2 жыл бұрын

Pls don't say swear words and pls don't say damn in this topic

Ben the argument you gave can literally be given for any god ever

@trichotillomaniac1959

Жыл бұрын

@@yogi-man but….free will. Except for the slaves the bible says I’m allowed to have. They don’t get free will. And neither do the women I’m allowed to rape.

@kabeloenyatseng5605

Жыл бұрын

It goes both ways...

@Sufganiyot

Жыл бұрын

He is proving the existence of a higher power so yeah that’s what he intended

@Yusufalsylheti

Жыл бұрын

That’s the point

@cyborgnj

Жыл бұрын

The difference between the Christian God and "any God ever" is the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

One of the biggest paradoxes with Christian religion is saying that humans have free will, but everything is according to God’s will/plan. If everything is according to His plan, then everything from the time you were born to the day you die is predetermined, thus removing the idea of free will.

omg im rewatching this a year later crying because i can’t believe i actually fell for this wordsmith ahh explanation

@silhouettes887

2 ай бұрын

Yo hallo Panchoooooo btw just for the memes: Frontopolar cortex of the brain has joined the chat

I’m gonna need to drink some coffee and rewatch this.

@liamtuthill4683

Жыл бұрын

I’m afraid there is no level of caffeination that will help you to make sense of this

@jaumeprimerelhipster

Жыл бұрын

Have some weed too, it may help.

@kjam185

Жыл бұрын

Add a redbull

@DarylTUBA

Жыл бұрын

@@kjam185 Yup. That way you’ll get wings and can fly up there yourself. If someone does chug a Red Bull and finds God, please pass a message for me. Tell God that Daryl said he’s doing it wrong.

@kjam185

Жыл бұрын

@@DarylTUBA GOD does nothing wrong! We're in a worldly time , no one wants to be obedient. Love thy neighbor, IN GOD WE TRUST , I love you and all of GODS people . Stay strong GOD loves us and ain't a thing we can do about it.

For those who don’t understand he is saying…if you have the ability to choose how to live in a way apart from the natural biological way of living, there is something in your consciousness apart from just science and nature. Hence something like "god".

@SicariusYT

2 жыл бұрын

And to simplify further basically god freed us from being savage animals

@tylerbranch7524

2 жыл бұрын

In other words it's not a direct argument for God at all.

@rickst3r

2 жыл бұрын

What's the natural biological way of living?

@Uche.Azinge

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickst3r living based off of instincts alone like other animals. Humans are the only ones with free will such as makes them capable of denying their basic instincts.

@rickst3r

2 жыл бұрын

@@Uche.Azinge my dog trusts me. Isn't he displaying free will? I'm confused

Well, considering libertarian free will has been pretty much debunked by this point, I think this fairs badly for Ben's version of God.

Even his unfounded belief in a god can't prove free will nor vice versa. Essentially this boils down to: I believe in god (which I can't prove) because I want to think I have free will (which I can't prove) and god is a handy bandaid for that problem. Ok, determinism is scary to you because you like to think people are special but 'because magic' solves nothing, it just pushes the problem back to proving god.

"People kill and get killed in the name of someone else's concept of God."

@parker6936

8 ай бұрын

People kill and get killed in the name of absolutely anything and everything. Mostly greed though. It's just how human beings are. Don't demonize someone's beliefs over something others have done. That's as narrow minded as me saying science is evil because the atomic bomb was created.

@Broc_Obama

7 ай бұрын

religion can be very dangerous sometimes

@Wachary1

6 ай бұрын

Many people get killed for other reasons as well. Humans be like that sometimes. Good and bad things come out of everything that’s the reality of it

He lost him at “balls of meat”

@Rainwater1313

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he wanted to say meat balls with spaghetti tonite for dinner .

@m.g.d4721

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣me too!

@legohivemind

Жыл бұрын

Well it’s your fault for not being able to understand him.

@safstar0184

Жыл бұрын

Lmao 🤣 🤣🤣

@aliderek

Жыл бұрын

@@Rainwater1313 hes like “balls of meat wondering around?” Lol

He is a little confused, but he’s got the spirit. 👍

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

He’s the confused one?

Free will is not an argument for God when we live in a deterministic universe

”I believe in free will” stopped listening at that lol

@randono213

7 ай бұрын

Why? God did create freewill, I mean it’s a valid argument. well, not argument, but you get my point

@manee2412

7 ай бұрын

@@randono213 he didnt sadly

@randono213

7 ай бұрын

@@manee2412yes He did. That’s why sin is here. He allowed the devil to partake in this world, and so for sin, so that we could have that freewill and choose what we do through that freewill. I hope that makes sense

@manee2412

7 ай бұрын

@@randono213 keep believing if its good for u brother but im blackpilled…

@randono213

7 ай бұрын

@@manee2412 I’m sorry, but may you please define “blackpilled”? I just genuinely don’t know what it means

His argument was basically just ”there’s no way dude”.

@NOOBCRASTINATOR69

Жыл бұрын

No but I'm not surprised because your God says don't have hate for another being..but fuck dat right?

@Jay-gc8xp

Жыл бұрын

You heard him!?!?

@darknx

10 ай бұрын

@@Jay-gc8xp i speak faster than him. if you cant hear him your brain is slow af

@mavricgomez5909

10 ай бұрын

Hahahaha life can ba a comedy We're all in this together if not we all die. Not good not bad it just is what it is

@user-lx3qt8zg5f

10 ай бұрын

@@darknx less about hearing him and more about comprehending him, which is hard when he just doesn’t make sense like here

Bro just yapped for a full minute. He literally did not say anything…

@ShikayaBegay

3 ай бұрын

But he did tho… you’re the one yapping asking with all the other people who gave this Exact. Same. Comment. It’s not his fault you can’t understand what he’s saying.

@WinnieTheG

3 ай бұрын

@@ShikayaBegay tell me what he said then? What does free will have to do anything with the existence of god? It’s just bunch of arguments to distract you from the fact that there is no valid and logical explanation gor the existence of god.

"God exists because I believe in free will" - Ben Shapiro Such a deeply meaningless and utterly uninspiring axiom that this poor man rests his entire set of beliefs on.

just because we do not understand something that does not mean that there is a god

@daftdigital

5 ай бұрын

That's beyond their logic.

@jghifiversveiws8729

5 ай бұрын

People have been making god of the gaps arguments for centuries, millenia even. They aren't going to give it up now.

@yoeyyoey8937

5 ай бұрын

It makes sense because there is no reason to have free will or consciousness otherwise. But he is not saying that something that you don’t understand is god.

@yoeyyoey8937

5 ай бұрын

@@jghifiversveiws8729what’s god of the gaps

@jghifiversveiws8729

5 ай бұрын

@@yoeyyoey8937 It's when people use god and his intervention as an explanation for things that scientific evidence either cannot explain with complete certainty or as an explanation for things that they have no real way of knowing.

"My favorite argument for god's existence is I believe in-" Ok I've heard enough.

@OGMercator

7 ай бұрын

So you don’t believe in free will?

@scottk1525

7 ай бұрын

@@OGMercator It doesn't matter. If you're going to make an "argument," beliefs are irrelevant. Saying your argument for god is that you believe in free will is no stronger than saying you believe in god because you believe in the bible. But for the record, no, I don't.

@OGMercator

7 ай бұрын

@@scottk1525 ok. I’ve heard all I needed to hear my guy

@scottk1525

7 ай бұрын

@@OGMercator Cool. See ya.

@elisakrivas

7 ай бұрын

Exactly!

"If you believe in free will that means God exist". Something doesnt need to be there since universe didnt came from anywhere

Jesus is coming soon ❤

I know im not the only goddamn person who understood absolutely no words coming from this man

@corvoattano9303

Жыл бұрын

You certainly are not my dude. When I first watched it I went "HOL UP! He said WHAT?!" But after watching it again I realize he's not making an argument FOR Free will, he just thinks life would be too horrible to live without it therefore he has faith in it. Personally I disagree with his assessment but at least it makes more sense than it did initially.

@pn7600

Жыл бұрын

damn man for me it just sounds like hes speaking sanskrit

@The1707regina

Жыл бұрын

....uh damn thang...u hurd?

@ddangaming3344

Жыл бұрын

Y’all good he is getting confused as he talks as well

@Jesus.is.king77799

Жыл бұрын

Don't use my Lord and savior And one hundred percent *MASTER* Who I Roxy Isabella confessed Jesus christ as . So don't use JESUS CHRIST father name like that. I've bow to Christ up-and-down 24/7 And I'm not ashamed of that. Oh I'm not Catholic. I know it might sound like it. I'm 100% of a real Following Christ Christian