The All-New Morgan Plus Six Is A Caterham, All Growed Up (Review)
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This week, courtesy of the good people at Bell & Colvill, I am getting inducted into the weird and wonderful world of Morgan. I started off with the Plus 4, a model with a lineage dating back decades - and unfortunately a chassis that is pretty ancient too.
The Plus Six looks pretty similar, but in every conceivable way this is a new car, and one of huge importance for the brand - so just how good is Morgan's 21st Century Motor Car?
#Morgan #PlusSix
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If I ever get enough money I'm getting a Morgan. I love the look and craftsmanship. I'm glad Morgan is bucking the trend and still offering a manual transmission. Thanks.
Never have I ever . . . Enjoyed a Jay Emm video more than these Morgan videos! Thanks to Richard Hammond I've been in love with Morgan since I saw one on Top Gear for the first time. Superb work as Always 👌 That Green paint job is art
Wooden shifter paddles is an awesome idea!
@LiamE69
4 жыл бұрын
I reckon Bakelite might be the answer.
@AntoniusTyas
3 жыл бұрын
Or brushed metal.
@johnnyboy1586
2 жыл бұрын
I think that would awesome and would suit the cars character
Never thought i'd say this but I want that Morgan !
No issue with them using an auto but could they not have made a leather sleeve for the shifter to blend it in a bit?
@2006gtobob
4 жыл бұрын
For a very large fee I'm sure they will do that for you
@temwananinkana3419
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. They could have made the shifter more retro
Lovely! I agree with you on some of the switch gear not fitting the rest of the car, however. Something like that is exactly what I would not expect from an (upmarket) Morgan.
They've just announced a manual option for 2020 on their latest Instagram post
@yoof01
4 жыл бұрын
Russell yeah they have but not for the Plus Six, so not for this engine. Basically they’re just changing the steel chassis from their other classic cars to this new aluminium one.
@johnceragioli9671
4 жыл бұрын
Russell, since Morgan announced that the steel chassis is going away, I suspect that the manual will most likely end up on the Plus 4.
7 years waiting time for a Morgan...crazy!!!
This car looks like pure driving joy. Weight is the enemy, light is right. I’m so glad Morgan is doing well. Of all ICE autos, this one has a particularly promising future.
@MrDaiseymay
4 жыл бұрын
Great pity that a controlling portion of this great British Car company --of 110 years, has slipped from the grasp of the Morgan family. An Italian investment company own it now.
Bloody GORGEOUS !! and what a colour, my favourite (Mid Green metalic with a hint of Blue) just like my current car. If I had the dosh, I'd keep mine in the lounge.
Excellent Video. Morgans are always cool to see. Luv and Peace.
The driver should not have any wind touching him at all. The windshield should be reshaped, re-angled, and resized to counter the wind touching the driver. One or two more gauges please. Also not a fan of the chromed luggage contraption.
I believe growed is not a word. Grow grew grown
Good to hear they are doing well at Morgan. I think I’d still choose a Caterham being more of a minimalist. It’s great both are out there on the market.
@MrDaiseymay
4 жыл бұрын
shame about the foreign part ownership
I see they are moving the plus 4 over to this chassis as well today.
8:52 "Brakes are interesting..." so quintessentially English, you have to love it!
Just topping up the likes to 100 James my guy. Excellent channel 👍👍👍
Like so many lucky people my wife and I have had two, both plus 4's. They are such great fun, real motoring at an affordable price! If yu want a project less than £16k will buy one right up to north of £80k. Somewhere in the middle lies so many great examples. So if you want one get your backside round to the local or nearest agent and you'll never lose money. Oh, did I mention the best bit? Well that is the great community of people that is the Morgan fraternity, joint the club for the area you live in and enjoy one of the last of the most iconic (real) sports cars. You do need to buy some driving gloves for cold days though!
Fab Morgan ! With one manual gearbox I could be buyer.
Nice review Jay. I must say the engine exhaust sound is very z4 like obviously. It would be interesting if a nice friendly BMW dealer would give you a new z4 with same engine to compare for a technical reference more than anything. I don't believe for a minute they would attract the same sort of customer. But equally nobody has done a review like this.
love it, though that BMW trans has to go in favor of a manual.
@voivod6871
4 жыл бұрын
Its not BMW lots cars use this trans. it is a German company however ZF and it has to be said its a great bit of kit in my M135i but i do sometimes wish i had a manual.
@yoof01
4 жыл бұрын
Voi Vod true, I have this in my F-Pace and DB11 and it works well, but I think BMW have said to Morgan this gearbox has to be mated to their engine, for now at least, hopefully a manual soon.
Lovely! Wish I had more garage space!
@13xBlackSun
2 жыл бұрын
Make space then!
Obviously another awesome video! Thank you.
Honestly thought for a split second that you got flashed by the speed camera at 7:47 - it was sun flashing through trees
Lol that shifter!
Great looking and performance to match. Cracking good sportscar. Is the +6 ever coming to the US? I wouldn't mind at all waiting a few years this handmade beauty:):)
Would you have preferred it manual Jay? I didn’t realise they were auto
So its Morgan week this week then? Do they have enough models for that?
Morgans are ALL pure motoring at its finest!!!
Wooden Shifter Paddles...great name for a band 👍
I want one of those ... !
Now that's a dream car
It sure is pretty!
Hideous steering wheel and that gear knob o dear.... Looks fantastic other than that. Not being a Morgan fanatic seems about £30k too expensive. Nice review, audio quality is v.good considering the wind.
Aero 8 please One of my all time favourite looking cars.
@sixsixteensevens297
4 жыл бұрын
Looking yes, drives like a suicide machine. Wood chassis, terrible brakes, understeer, only good for going in a streight line - and its not raining as it lets rain in.
@paulstandeven8572
4 жыл бұрын
@@sixsixteensevens297 The Aero 8 had the alloy chassis, so it had good suspension, handling and brakes
Question please, i know a Porsche 911 can be used as a daily driver (i had one for a number of years). Can a newish Morgan +8 be used as a daily for a retired bloke just pottering about. We have other "Tesco" cars and a E-Type Jag for special occasions I do love this +6 but bit pricey eh..
Lovely 💓👍
Id have to get them to fit some bumpers to it. Otherwise its perfect.
I understand why people insist on confusing Morgan with Caterham, but there's really almost nothing in common between the two apart from 'old fashioned looks'. I've had many Caterhams, still have one in fact, 225bhp for 560kg on the 11cm wider SV chassis, I love it, but unfortunately age, and my long collection of injuries is catching up with me and as it becomes very unpleasant to hop n and spring forth(§) from the doorless Caterham, so the advantages of themore conventional Morgan become more interesting. I've always liked the look of the Morgan, which manages to conjure up a vision of touring in an ideal, golden-age Europe, when everything was still beautiful and there was no surveillance to remind us all of Auntie State. I've seen Morgans behave very well in raceing, at the Grand-Prix de Pau, but Caterhams race in their hundreds every weekend, and on track there is no comparison. However, for the average arthritic old git like me, I spend much more time driving on the road, and I doubt I'll ever compete again. Pretty car, anyway.
The stalks bare look very similar to the ones on the Rover 75 presumably both BMW parts bin
Theres only so long I can stand looking at the view of the Plus 6 badge on the back!
@1258-Eckhart
4 жыл бұрын
There was a warning that advertising money was involved.
Don’t wave at camera vans, they can do you for not being in control of your vehicle.
@disuye
4 жыл бұрын
They can do you for smiling, in the UK.
Am i wired that i want a Morgan in my dream garage with a delorean and my daily as a Telsa Model Y and a couple of 911s in there too
Semi-custom English hot rod costs around $100 grand. Sounds about right. Ever price a custom built American rod?
Brilliant review. I wish COVID does not clip the wings of your channel
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Luckily I have a very intense filming schedule so I have enough content filmed for 5-6 weeks of lockdown
Wonder if you are going to sample the 3 wheeler.......?
Filmed very near here so I had fun playing spot the road.
@MrDaiseymay
4 жыл бұрын
So did you ?
@Graham_Langley
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay Most of them.
A great advert for Morgan. Any more to come?
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, one left this week
One never need apologize for wind noise when driving a Morgan.
Hope they can create a nice push button transmission transmission selector. A prettier steering wheel and a manual transmission.
4:12 do you mean that the car smells of burning, glue and oil leaking out of the carburetor?😂 Anyway nice review and I actually like this car quite a bit.
I like it...
You couldn't include even a promo photo of the chassis or suspension to hint at why the plus 6 is so different in handling?
Oh dear interior and steering wheel wont mention gear stick
Lovely countryside aye.
Here in the states I would use the 100k to find a nice 1954 MG then use the balance to buy lightly used 911.
Imagine passing people on a lap day in this, lol.
You need to compare with à roadster 3,7 liter not a plus four Two liter. But the new plus six seems to be more efficient
I want that car so bad!😂
Maybe bone or brass paddles !
The fact alone that we still can buy cars like that, more than makes up for the auto. It’s a great gearbox anyway
Give me a manual option and a wooden or same color leather steering wheel (that black plastic looking thing is a big no for me) and I'm in.....it's a beautiful car!
No manual transmission option? I'm outa here, show me no more. Interesting that at 1:44 there is a Mazda MX 5, the most successful, some say best, roadster ever made, in the background. You can get one of those with a manual transmission as well, and, for less than a third of the price of a Morgan.
@jrd33
4 жыл бұрын
Hand-made. Not hand-made. It's like comparing the cost of a painting with a print.
@ralphaverill2001
4 жыл бұрын
John Davis So it shouldn’t be a lot of trouble to “paint” a manual transmission. Morgans are beautiful cars, but for me, a sports car without a stick-shift manual transmission isn’t worth it.
It would be more accurate to say that a Caterham is a Morgan for the DIY brigade.
Yes, 90K GBP, is a lot of money. But there's nothing like a Morgan on the market today!
An automatic-only Morgan. WOT
@xPUR3xSHOTZx
4 жыл бұрын
they've just announced a manual option on their latest Instagram post
@chrisogrady28
4 жыл бұрын
Russell good, but tbh these are the mind of cars that should be manual only. Want an easy to live with eco box? Buy a golf.
Damn shame it doesn’t have that fab V8 burble,
Any chance filming an aero 8?
Maybe a 500 horsepower carbon fiber Aero version in the future.
Much more like it, Not sure I could justify £90k for a B58 though when its available in cars for about 1/4 of that price on the used market. Its certainly a special thing though!
@VolkerHett
4 жыл бұрын
There are other reasons to get a Morgan besides the engine.
@ItsDanLatham
4 жыл бұрын
@@VolkerHett Agreed, hence the latter part of my comment.
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
@@ItsDanLatham The fact is the days where people like Lotus etc... could build their own engines are long gone - it just isn't economical anymore.
@ItsDanLatham
4 жыл бұрын
JayEmm on Cars Very true. It seems like a great pairing judging from your experience anyway.
Do Morgans still have that odd geometric nightmare, the sliding pillar suspension.
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
Not the new ones
that gearstick thing looks so out of place!
I’d go for V8,just for noise it would make!
Over here in the Colonies we would put a 5.0 Coyote Ford or a Ls Chevy V -8 s just a suggestion my Blokes !!!!!!!!
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
That's basically an AC Cobra
Classic green finishes it off well. Just pretend you aren't freezing to death..
Paddle shifters are PSA (and woeful) .
Morgan’s have always been underpriced, they are now approaching what they should be selling for, they are hand made for gods sake, proper hand made.
@Tential1
2 жыл бұрын
For 100k us... Seems like a "decent" deal for something so unique.
Much better than a BMW Z4
BMW V8’s are the most unreliable of most V8’s!! I am/was an BMW V8 owner! Back in my younger days as an Marine Corps Naval Aviator in the 60’s I was the proud owner of an MGTD! THAT was pure exhilarating motoring. ABSOLUTELY NO Morgan should have an automatic transmission!! That is an MORTAL SIN!!!
@Tential1
2 жыл бұрын
K, gonna buy one with an auto just to set people like you off....
Love this car,sadly coz of being an above knee amputee have lost ability to drive manual so the auto would have to do wich is a shame as all proper sports cars should be manual.
Lottery win and order.
it kind of sounds like my aunts Porsche 718 Cayman witch she has now traded it in for a brand new Porsche 911 Carrera S
Beautiful car!! 😍👍 but those thin cheap tacky looking headrests on an 80k+ car 👎
Didn’t get to see much of the car in this , just a lot of talk and wind noise , but what I did see , I wanted
all growed up?
@Paul_C
4 жыл бұрын
Almost as if most so called 'youtube journalists' have no credible evidence for their 'credentials'. Appalling to say the least.
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
Or we're having a bit of fun. Take your pick.
@Dockhead
4 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars now now there's no harm, at least from my comment i wasn't meaning any, its just i found it slightly amusing and it gave me a brain fart for a second when i first read it, not sure on the other guy though.
@Paul_C
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dockhead Most credible journalists have at least some journalist training. It normally revolves around language and structure of a story. Nowadays that norm seems to crumbling.
🙏🙏
Title should be "...all grown up". Please amend and update.
@betacam235
4 жыл бұрын
I think the title is aimed at the pedants out there ;~)
Bmw gear selector ans engine and mini indicator stalks
Morgan makes a wide body for wide bodies?
"Roof"? Honestly, I thought the British called that a "hood".
@slappy8941
4 жыл бұрын
No, that's the flummel, which shouldn't be confused with the banger, or the hosset. And then there's the squodge, which is usually mounted behind spitch, that many people confuse with the grungle.
@WilliamParmley
4 жыл бұрын
@@slappy8941 Ta!
The OZ style wheels don't suit the old school body that well... Same with steering wheel and gear lever, which should have been a manual
Lovely car. But Christ almighty that steering wheel is gopping. It looks like it's come straight out of an FSO Polonez
@notroll1279
4 жыл бұрын
They know most people will replace it with a more stylish Moto-Lita one.
One other point about the drivers comments on tyre width. He is wrongly under the impression that wider tyres give MORE grip. This is NOT TRUE, as any Engineer will tell you that friction is independent of area especially on a dry road.
'Grown up Caterham'? It's twice the weight, twice the price, it's automatic and the manufacturers told you 'once it's gone it's gone' so not something you can play with on road or a track - OK it's got sidescreens (but has doors) apart from that what does it have in common?
@JayEmmOnCars
4 жыл бұрын
British, hand built, an engine made in Germany, relatively light weight, driver focused, based on a very old idea, retro looks, limited storage and best enjoyed on a summer day
They would have better off to a GM LS3 or Ford Coyote, both V-8s. And both over 450 hp.
Anyone who already drives a BMW with that shifter, is going to be upset with this as the weekend toy. Whilst it’s a great gearbox etc and I love that gear leaver in my 5 series, it looks way out of place in a Morgan. Even if I could afford this, I wouldn’t buy it simply due to that. Big mistake in my opinion, but I really like the rest of the car.
The steering wheel and stupid 'gearstick' just look utterly ridiculous. Cohesion guys, get some.
Stunning car , but that steering wheel :-( .
“Growed” lol Don’t you mean “grown”
I'm fine with ZF8HP, a great gearbox although it's auto, but I can't stand the gear lever, the ppl in Morgan could do much better.
@MetikalMan
4 жыл бұрын
Elvis I’m sure once these start selling they can develop a cleaner solution. Lots of money went into creating this car.