Would you go for the Plus Four or the Plus Six?

@quackman

3 жыл бұрын

Plus Four!

@imfate1

3 жыл бұрын

Inline six engines are just nicer. But in this case i think i would choose the plus 4. Less power and weight actually sounds nice, at least in theory.

@chrismuc4023

3 жыл бұрын

Old Plus 8

@Houthiandtheblowfish

3 жыл бұрын

Carfection plus 4 manual

@GrotrianSeiler

3 жыл бұрын

If the 4 puts a little more weight in the rear, I would definately go for the 4. But the 6 is more butter, and we all like more butter.

Thank you all for watching. Sorry if I didn't reply to everyone in the chat at the end of the premiere (exasperatingly the page refreshed just as I was typing an answer!).

@WylieCoyote45

3 жыл бұрын

Best description of Morgans I've heard was if Caterhams were your unruly teenage cousin then a Morgan is your ex punk uncle who discovered tweed jackets with elbow patches

@laxlaxlaxx

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Henry! I loved the review and especially your point on how people perceive Morgans. It connected with me because I live in America and ride a '96 Triumph motorcycle. When I'm out for a ride, I get the same feeling, it only attracts smiles and positivity. Here, in the land of the maligned question, "do you have a crotch rocket or a Harley," it is noticeable how differently people look at you, not based on how quick you're going, but what you are on. I feel that Morgan, and the other classically styled brands of cars and bikes, attract positivity because they've never truly been the 'popular' choice among those who can afford them. Additionally, even though only the more knowledgeable car and bike fans can spot a Morgan or differentiate a classic Triumph from, let's say, a Harley Sportster, there is an endemic quality to them that most people understand. That is, they aren't the most practical, comfortable, reliable, and to many, the most fashionable. People just kind of, 'get that,' and, for that reason, they know that you made that purchase out of love for the vehicle, above all else. You wanted it that badly, despite your own checkbook asking you not to. Something every motorist experiences, is that people who see you have the unavoidable discussion and perception of why you own that car. Specifically speaking on 'fun' cars, are you doing it because you love to drive it, or because you love the attention that your car brings you? Owning exotic Italians, both bikes and cars, has been popular for so long now that it is an invariable fact that owning one will garner you plenty of attention and compliments. But, what if you get a Morgan? You do not get that same attention. It isn't as loud, fast, bright to the eyes, and, for most, attention grabbing. That is something else that people understand and appreciate. You put effort into choosing a car that best represents you, and what you appreciate about driving, and not a car that represents FOR you. To people on the outside, it doesn't matter if your Lamborghini or Ducati was the fulfillment of a lifetime dream and ambition, especially when blasting a backroad. The perception of those vehicles in today's world has evolved. Owning another loud Italian performance machine, while attention grabbing and nice to look at... Well, many would rather see something different and enjoy it when they do.

@Moparornocar74

3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see you in car again

@johnnyboy1586

3 жыл бұрын

I look forward so much for your reviews. Another pearler👍😊

@silkcutliveryjaguarxjr-9929

3 жыл бұрын

@@laxlaxlaxx That was big appreciation congratulations, welcome to the drunk people's gang

"Tea's ready", Henry, you're just the best at this.

@sceett

3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps “kettle’s boiled” would have been more apt, but I’m just nit picking...

@BertoniBertone

3 жыл бұрын

Very apt...but how long before that fricking whistle drove you crazy...?

Your production is always spot on guys. The go-to for both great reports along with beautiful footage and editing. Thank you.

It may well be my age (48), but as time has gone on, I've really started to bloody like these things!

Amazing review amazing camerawork and editing

Such a great review. And Henry is one of the best in the business... Well done!

A basic, bare bones classic car from the 1950s, still making until today. I absolutely love this car!!!😍

Morgan's are always such a unique mix of old and new tech. Love em.

Such a car that we need in the modern era

Harry you have really been stepping up your game in recent work with showing some character and making quirky analogies. Your effort and abilities are shining through! Always enjoy your content

Not only I want to express my appreciation of the excellent production of the video, I also want to let you know that this review convince me further that the Morgan will be my next car. Luv it. Cheers

Brilliant Henry. I loved the work you did here. From the Cream Soda to the Plus4. Outstanding Squire. Please keep em coming Henry 👍

I think this is the best car review I've ever seen. well done

Straight 6 for the noise. Such a pure engine note

Cracking video Henry. Really enjoyed that.

Thank god for a manual. I still don’t get why they didn’t develop a more “on brand” gear knob for the auto box. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@ALMX5DP

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I've always gotten a feeling that it relates to either cost or the complexity. However the various journos have to have had similar thoughts, but no one seems to have asked Morgan about it (at least publicly or on the record) which is strange to me.

@MrGaryGG48

3 жыл бұрын

@@ALMX5DP I suspect the shift lever is much more "integrated" with the transmission in the auto than the manual. There's distinctly less appeal with the Morgan-Auto. To begin with, I suspect the typical Morgan buyer is attracted to the "Vintage Look" far more than the modern technology we're being bombarded with. That combination tends to clash, in my opinion. As light as the "Plus 4" is, the performance is pretty respectable with the turbo-4. At ~$20K less, it's even more appealling.

@Xboxthreesixtyful

3 жыл бұрын

When you have a handful of engineers designing 2 all-new platforms simultaneously, the last thing you will focus on is re-designing a complex electro-mechanical part that you can buy from BMW for peanuts

@jacktyler5241

3 жыл бұрын

Crestfallen Plinth thanks for your observations I guess?

@MrGaryGG48

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xboxthreesixtyful That's exactly what I was thinking. Neither BMW nor Morgan were in a position to re-engineer the mechanical or electrical bits in addition to just making the running gear fit and work properly.

Best bit about the video....Adams Family song at the end! Well done Henry. Visited the Morgan factory a couple of years ago. What an eye opener. Everyone interested in cars should go, an excellent way to spend some time.

Another great video. Morgan page is one of my faves for a configuration de-stress. Have done a few I lock down. BRG always a great colour choice.

Excellent review. Would also love to watch Doug's review on the Morgan. Especially the quirks and features.

This is amazing. I hope more companies bring back to life some of their best legacy cars.

Outstanding review! You capture the spirit of Morgan! Pure Englishness, which many of us love....

Teas ready 😂😂 Henry you are an absolute legend 👍

I am in love with this car, let's say very long time. I visit the factory, there is no museum like it. I love Morgan!

Oh Henry you silly old bean, cracking journalism as always!

Loving the black-out head lamps! A good way to use modern LEDs on a older looking design. Great video once again, looks fun to drive! Felt like I was getting ready to head to bomber command...

Great review. I think I saw you film a couple of cornering shots as a mate and I cycled by on our roads bikes- near Peterborough?

I love Morgan. I would always go for the +4 with a manual transmission if I had the money. Thank you.

I love listening to you. So much better than most car geeks. Don't change

very well presented ..bravo

Great review Henry ! Love that Morgan especially in green with matching green wire wheels. I'm not so keen on those horrible headrests, they look a little tacky

THE BEST PRESENTER EVER best wishes Kinnon.

Great, nicely judged review video, thank you! Morgan quirks present and correct then. As long as you can forget the withering price it looks fun... Premium indeed

I don’t care that it whistles, or that it feels old fashioned, it’s beautiful, it’s bespoke and handmade. You won’t get that from anything else. And it’s British made by artisans and engineers rather than robots. I’d love one.

To be honest, I watch your videos more to enjoy your commentary than because of the cars you're driving 😋

I really like the intro part, fun video

Is the manual gearbox borrowed from BMW as well? That would explain the slightly lackluster shifting experience

What a gorgeous car ❤️

Very nice indeed. Thank you. On your question: obviously a Plus Four.....when you roll up in one of these, like it or not, a statement has already been made, and at least it has the right gearbox (don't want to spend hours explaining the added convenience of an auto in your Morgan)....beyond this point, the law of diminishing marginal returns kicks in with a vengeance - not necessarily a central issue for Morgan customers mind you. All that being said, it would be wonderful if they sold masses of both !

I had a Morgan +8 fifty years ago when I lived in London. Cost 4,000 pounds. I miss it.

Gorgeous car!

Morgan is a truly beautiful vehicle that needs to be in the US. It kills me how rare they are over here.

Even before accounting for the wire wheels, the relationship between wheel diameter and tire depth is so much better on the 4 than on the 6.

Wonderful piece of engineering 🥰

Still the best car reviewer in the business. 👌

Hell of an icon,but £75'000 as tested. The price took my breath away more than the car or performance.

@rickc2102

3 жыл бұрын

But... cream soda! 🤭

@notroll1279

3 жыл бұрын

@R A Even though, 75 k £ is a lot of Money and quite a step up from the preceding model. And yes, used Morgans have indeed appreciated over the last years. However, I wouldn't expect this to go on forever - that can only work of Morgan can raise new car prices more strongly than used cars lose their value. And the alternative will always be a new car built to the owner's taste and order - and covered by a warranty,

@Jabber-ig3iw

3 жыл бұрын

Complete bargain for what you get.

@cockleshellzero3893

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, you could buy a cookie-cutter car that's been stamped out and assembled by robots on a production line, for half the price, if that's what you want. If however, your preference is a bespoke, coachbuilt car, lovingly hand-crafted by a small team of highly skilled professionals then expect to pay a premium. 😉

Plus four please as, yes, it is lovely. You are right Henry.

Now the plus 4 has the cx chassis, I think I’d go for the plus 4 with the manual gearbox.

I wonder if you could change the gear selector for the Supra one?

@ 4:36 it looks like Henry binned one on a previous run!

Have they updated the front suspension, or is it still sliding pillars?

Kept hearing that whistling noise once Henry mentioned it lol

I'd get the plus six...and immediately get a six speed manual conversion, an uprated limited slip diff, a professional remap and a discrete Eisenmann exhaust. Also, your'e aging well Mr. Catchpole. Right, I'm off to the Morgan configurator for a play and a daydream. Still miss the 4.8 V8.

Is this the same 4 cylinder turbo that's being used in the 4 cylinder A90 Supra?

I started laughing with the BMW gear selector.

Wished the Morgan Plus Four and Plus Six models featured slightly modernized looking rear single tail-lights to match the slightly modernized front, something akin to the Philips Berlina, Plymouth Prowler, etc.

Once you pointed out the whistle I couldn't stop hearing it, it would really drive me mad I think! I once bought a bespoke, luthier made guitar, from a famous, highly renowned British luthier, at considerable expense, which although beautiful in sound and appearance, started to emit a high pitched but low volume squeal from the G string when strummed vigorously in certain chord shapes which I didn't notice immediately but once I did it was all I could hear, whilst playing I would listen out for it in frustration wondering if I was imagining it or not, taking it back to its 'Geppetto' I explained the issue, he couldn't hear it, perhaps due to age, as much as I could but one of his apprentices heard my issue and was in agreement, I left with a feeling of being humoured, but to his credit he agreed to try and fix the problem, so I left it with him. I got the guitar back after a couple of weeks and since it only happened sporadically I thought it was fixed but after some playing, it was back, so out of desperation I changed the construction of the strings I was using and it seemed to dull the sound until it was barely noticeable. It may in fact have fixed the problem but I was left with a maddening auricular 'phantom limb' syndrome where I would still hear its discord in the harmony of certain chords. I learned to live with it but it spoiled my relationship with the instrument and after a couple of years I had 'Geppetto' birth me a new 'boy' of whose design I was involved in from the start, having the opportunity to pick the exact pieces of wood, from a species that he hadn't used before, plucked from his vast stocks that he would use in the construction of the guitar, a fantastic and rare, not to mention prodigal experience, which did not stop him, eccentric as he was, from refusing some requests I made because they weren't to 'his tastes'. After the 6 month build-time, I picked up the guitar and to my relief there was no 'phantom limb' and I began the process of 'breaking in' the guitar. It was everything I had dreamed it would be and the sound it produced was almost piano like at times. I would take the guitar back to him every year as I used to holiday in the area and to his credit and amazing customer service he would service the guitar gratuitously , making any adjustments needed and scoffing at any additions I'd made, such as a pickup or brass bridge-pins, which he hated with a passion for some reason, he would remove them and replace with stock pins while servicing the guitar and re-install them when he was done, just to make a point! I expect the same adherence to self imposed tradition would exist at Morgan and the delightful experience of having input in the design process as close to the point of conception as possible, giving a similar feeling of ownership which cannot be achieved with picking options from a brochure, although that can also be a thrill as anyone who has specced a car before its built would attest to, being the picky type I have done this a few times in the past. It's amazing the time you can dedicate to a KZread post that no-one will probably read whilst you are on lockdown during a pandemic!

Amazing. I wish that put a wooden steering wheel and shift knob though. And the dash.

Is the textured paint an option ?

Awesome car! Wish I can afford myself to buy one very soon 😜. Only the steering wheel should be available in a classic look as well. Also not sure about the digital screen behind the steeringwheel. But otherwise, amazing!!! 🎉👌

Elephant in the room is : how is it compared to the previous model which lasted .... 70 years. As you have had a 4/4 as a daily, please tell us Henry.

Glad this one is shown in BRG🔥

@bicyclist2

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

How's the legroom compared to the plus 6?

Lovely review. Some under bonnet shots would be nice next time.

Does it have a hydraulic steering?

Yo quiero uno, en ese mismo color. Gracias

Seems like a good fun

In my youth over 30 years ago i owned three Morgans and what fun I had If you can afford one and you like fun i cant think of a better car Today I drive an LC500 and i love it it but i dont regret a min of my time with Morgans

Honestly I'm surprised they didn't go to Honda for a banger little 4 pot. A ka would be heavy for an i4 sure, but it would really rip.

Love it 😍😎💪

I've never understood the appeal of Morgans, but there's clearly a market for this stuff and raiding the BMW / Mini parts bin is a good place to start! I wish them every success

Where was this video filmed?

Being a tall lad my self, how much room did you have ?

A lot of manufacturers need to learn from this, we don’t need every facelift to have more power, if they focus on reducing weight everything is better it’ll be faster, more economical and more fun to drive.

i didn’t know these existed until about 30 minutes ago (i found a 1980 4/4 for sale on Craigslist). anyway, i think i just found my new dream car

Why anyone would want anything other than a manual is completely beyond me. Really beautiful car.

I want one because only an English company like Morgan could be so stubborn to just stick to 50s British sports car styling

Take those awful plastic CIBIE covers off, for gods sake! Love the looks of this Morgan, but little else. Great video as always :)

What BMW is that engine from?

That is 100% a 'Speed Top' Richbrook gear knob. Hello from AUS!

Until someone comes up with a manual box for the plus six, the plus four is the one to have. As for the price, Morgan’s have been underpriced for years, the are bespoke hand built cars built by a manufacturer who has been doing it for over 100 years. Nobody bats an eyelid at some start up in shed gluing plastic cars together charging 200k but people seem to object to a proper car company like Morgan charging good money for their cars.

I had a 7 as my sunny day toy for a few years but outgrew it, age is catching me up. If I had the money and the garage space I would love one of these. Sadly I have neither

Just hired (May 2021) a new plus 4 for the day from Morgan. Was hoping for fantastic experience. I'm a slim guy, 6ft tall, so not excessively big. However I couldn't sit up correctly with the soft top on, and when sitting up with roof off my eye line of sight was obscured. When the soft top is on (it was a rainy day) visibility to the side is obscured and my neck was cramped over. Massively uncomfortable and can’t be endured for long. The seat back angle can’t be reclined to make more useable and comfortable. The engine, response, handling, power and external aesthetics are all fantastic, however massively sad to say that the cabin design and ergonomics let the overall car down and make it a undriveable and unbuyable for me and I suspect for a large number of people. I was so wanted this to be a great experience, but Morgan need to put the same focus and work into the cabin as they have with the rest of the car.

@scottyab

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this comment, I'm 6ft2in and was planning to hire a plusFlour for the day but I'll make sure to sit in it before committing (either that or wait for a sunny day so can keep the road off ).

I can't wait to buy this car used in a couple of years

oh god, now I want one....

Me: am good at animal sounds Henry: Baaaaa🐏🐏😂

What a great car

Henry, you should‘ve worn a flat cap. Otherwise, brilliant review, as always!

@MrGaryGG48

3 жыл бұрын

As tall as Henry is, I was really surprised that the ball-cap didn't take a flyer... maybe that was in a "take" that ended up on the cutting room floor!? ;^)

@rickc2102

3 жыл бұрын

Is a flat cap like a Kangol?

@evilspoons

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrGaryGG48 I've got quite a few that stay on in pretty much anything I've subjected them to. I have a couple others that like to disappear spontaneously only to be found a couple days later... annoyingly I forgot a hat on my honeymoon to Hawaii and bought a nice one in Honolulu, only to find it's the "falling off" category and our rental cars were a Jeep (on purpose! it was fun) and an Eclipse Convertible when they couldn't get us a replacement 2-door Jeep (the 4-door had just come out) when a tire went flat and I had to put the spare on in the rain and the dark.

Entertaining. I wish i had the money to buy one.

Wonderful modern classic car. I wonder how many days in a year you could drive it without the car roof in England though. 😄

@alfnoakes392

3 жыл бұрын

I have wondered whether Morgan have made the roof/windscreen surround on the 'new' Four as leaky as the old one always was, just to maintain tradition.

I know i'll never own one but still doesn't stop me configuring one :). Will say the stick for the auto is horrid and the steering wheel doesn't fit the image either :(

Its more “fun” for some old country men in nostalgia... I better have a Z4 BMW, case closed. Bytw your videos are top. Thanks for sharing it.

Henry, we might have to invest in a good flat hat for you..! That trucker cap gives off good headwear vibes, but somehow... I don’t know... a flat hat..! It just sounds kind of cool, I guess..!

Definitely, I'd go for the Plus 4 but only until they have devised an automated roof for it! Life is too short to be faffing about for half an hour putting up the roof on that!

Wish they hand these here in the US. It would definitely beat the monotony of Miatas & Corvettes

Surely Henry has a flat cap at his disposal to have completed the Morgan driver look?

i'd love to crack on in a morgan 3 wheeler in the usa!

Does Noddy drive this car?

Tan interior, satin silver wire wheels & Walnut dash ... with British Racing Green.... car would be gorgeous.

The cruiser slob in me would go for the auto. One of only a handful of cars made today that you could recognise without any badging.