"Of course it's bull shit But bullshit is a useful fertilizer " This line tho 🤣🤣🤣

@MainelyMoto207

Жыл бұрын

But it's not. Bull shit is not a good fertilizer, cow shit is. That's why something that isn't good, "bullshit"

@emmettturner9452

Жыл бұрын

@@dheeraj_nadimpalli It’s spam. The same account is spamming all the other comments with the same thing. You see it all over KZread in the last several weeks. I never click the links but I’ll probably accidentally do it some time in the future. Someone is probably paying botnet operators to increase views of certain videos and this is one of their tricks. No idea how they keep KZread from filtering them. Normally, any post I make with a URL normally gets ghosts right away: I can see it but others can’t unless the channel operator digs it out of their spam comment list and marks it “not spam.”

@penguinproductions7014

Жыл бұрын

I assume he has writers? If not then he puts all presenters on tele to shame(either way it’s one of the best programmes going) thanks to everyone who created this 👍

@williamwintemberg

Жыл бұрын

Sad but true. Useful for the seller but just lube for your butt.

@geddon436

Жыл бұрын

@@penguinproductions7014 Good question. He does have a bachlors degree in "Physics" so, I wouldn't be surprised if he writes all his own material.

"...delivery Q5 of 2023" Ryan's jokes are supreme.

@THESLlCK

Жыл бұрын

that line goes hard

@SivaKanthSharma

Жыл бұрын

Q5 is actually a special term made for last day before the financial year end rush of march starts, I.e., feb 30th

@robinsonrom

Жыл бұрын

@@SivaKanthSharma This comment goes hard.

@THESLlCK

Жыл бұрын

@@SivaKanthSharma quarter 5? Doesn’t make much sense to me.

@THESLlCK

Жыл бұрын

@@SivaKanthSharma quarter 5? Doesn’t make much sense to me.

That face-to-face ending is so good not just from a review perspective but narratively-speaking. Even Fortnine’s short reviews are so expertly written and Ryan executes exceptionally as always.

@arnehurnik

Жыл бұрын

Kinda makes you wanna buy one and leave a review saying "the manufacturer lied to me but Ryan didn't."

@greenwave819

Жыл бұрын

and extra cool as it took place in front of the "center for dialogue"

@CONQUISTADOR79

3 ай бұрын

@@arnehurnik😂😂😂😂

Nice video as usual. The price increase to about 7k at the time of this video from 5k when it was first announced changes the equation though. At the original offering, it was closer to scooters. Now when compared to 400-500cc motorcycles, it is a harder to justify easily given the company's short history and lower versatility (rather low top speed for much time on US motorways)

@inthenickoftime__

10 ай бұрын

I know this is 9 months old but I’m starting to research electric motorcycles as gas will eventually be banned in California. I can’t believe they’ve dared to wander into SV650 territory with this pricing

@james45478

10 ай бұрын

@@inthenickoftime__ Agree with part of your comment. Gas is not going to be banned for a long time in CA. Even in 12 years (2035), it will be new gas car sales that will stop. Used cars, slightly used cars imported from other states (loophole), and motorcycles will not be touched for 15-20. The tech and prices will be much better by then and you probably won't want a gas powered vehicle (based on performance, nostalgia maybe).

@inthenickoftime__

10 ай бұрын

@@james45478 I hope you’re right. There’s a lot that will have to change about infrastructure for electric cars and bikes to be viable for everyone. I considered buying an electric car until I realized I have no convenient way to charge it: my apartment complex was built in the 60’s, and while I do have access to regular 120v, level 1 charging is essentially useless, and the owner has no interest in adding any sort of charging capability. I’m sure I’ll have a house by the time it’s a problem, but that won’t be the case for lots of people. Sitting around for an hour in a parking lot waiting for my car to charge is simply not something I’m willing to do when I can fill a gas tank in 3 minutes.

@james45478

10 ай бұрын

@@inthenickoftime__ Yes there is a lot that has to be built and it will not make sense for everyone (particularly those that live in rural areas). However used, cars from NV, or new plug in hybrids (that people only sometimes plug in) will be available when that happens a dozen years from now.

@Vespyr_

6 ай бұрын

7000 removes this off the table immediately. They got greedy.

I just want to say, I have never owned a motorcycle; your vids are so well produced and thought out that I am subscribed with the bell rang. Great vids...I will get a bike one day!

@dgphi

Жыл бұрын

This is how it starts.

@07_sev52

Жыл бұрын

Be sure to get a license first though :)

@cj992

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry Ryan is not a real biker either

@yordannedelchev4784

Жыл бұрын

It is true. Same reason I watch them.

@treytucker5619

Жыл бұрын

For those of us who can’t fly, riding motorcycles (outside of the Suboxone saturated public) is the next best thing. 👍🏼

Just got to say this is the best channel on this platform. No annoying drawn out intros, no begging for likes and subscriptions, and when you do a sponsorship, it feels like its part of the video. Cant forget the wonderful camera work, amazing script, and overall beautiful production. There is no "fat" in these videos, every shot, word, and transition is gold. Amazing video like always.

@emmettturner9452

Жыл бұрын

It makes them imminently shareable too… with non-motorcyclists.

@Dinsdale_Piranha_Innit

Жыл бұрын

No joke! Even the product placement is just more useful information. It’s the opposite of those things that pop up in my feed, with some broad being all “so I’ve been getting a lot of questions about my face routine…” (NO, BONCH. NOBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT MAKEUP SHOTGUN YOU USE). When I watch F9, and I bet a lot of you are the same, I literally am like “damn these are shot well, I wonder what they use.”

@ToneKneeParaSocial

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, This man is abit of a motorcycle vod genius while also being pretty wicked on most things with two wheels.

@RPRosen-ki2fk

Жыл бұрын

I TOTALLY agree with you.

@tim9817

Жыл бұрын

completely agree.......much better than gimmicky yammie boob

I love how honest, yet poetic review was. It's like, they were going into this knowing that Sondors PR people were going to be upset by seeing a negative review, but they executed so well on the video, that the PR people will still have to acknowledge that it's just totally honest and well done.

This cheap electric motorcycle review video has no business being this top notch of production quality 🤣 Overly well done good sir!

@littlemanjonjon

Жыл бұрын

I would have to agree! 😁

@borankatunaric7505

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for a comment like this. I'm 4 minutes in and am smiling as to how good the production is.

A fortnine notification on a Sunday morning, chefs kiss.

As usual, Ryan comes out of nowhere with the freshest and most nuanced takes on controversial topics in motorcycling and leaves us all both more educated and more entertained. Seriously, I even sat through the ad!

@dsp4392

Жыл бұрын

I hope you realize this whole channel is an ad for Fortnine, the shop.

@CockatooDude

Жыл бұрын

@@dsp4392 Yeah I know. But even in the videos where Ryan reviews gear they sell he's brutally honest.

@handlemonium

Жыл бұрын

And 42 + 69 is satisfyingly 111 😌

@graham1034

Жыл бұрын

@@dsp4392 I didn't even realize that Fortnine was a shop

@axelportillo7558

Жыл бұрын

@@dsp4392 I doubt most people realize, or even care. This is simply top-notch motorcycle content. The finest on KZread.

I just love how you couldn't resist having Road 5's on it as well. A man of taste. Also, the meta conversation on whether we should take corporate words at face value and never forgive that kind of behavior, or just simply accept and judge the product for ourselves, was definitely one worth having.

I would love to see you do a electric showdown of Sondors, Zero FX, Kollter/Tinbot etc of entry level bikes.

This watches like a story. The introduction of a character, drama regarding their origin, conflict of interest between riders, a slightly melancholic but satisfying ending. High quality

I love the money counter during the sponsor bit :)

@brandonhight9275

Жыл бұрын

I thought i was the only one that noticed based on lack of comments. Freaking hysterical!

Extraordinary filming, editing, script, audio, and overall production value make this , out of hundreds of thousands of channels on youtube, my absolute favorite... Keep up the great work!

This is the most professionally written and filmed review about a consumer product that I have ever viewed. Talk about honesty and being a well informed reviewer! The cinematography was excellent. Thanks for the review.

@ThatFontGuy

Жыл бұрын

The amazing thing is *all* the videos are of this quality. Each unique, not really formulaic or anything but all well written, entertaining and informative. This is honestly the best produced channel on KZread. Everyone else making videos for KZread should be learning from it :)

That camera catch in a turn was awesome. Great vid as always. Doesn't seem like a great deal, but still a neat bike

@1984xlx

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I had to replay it, very clever.

@aussiebloke609

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to know how many takes it required. But a great trick regardless. 🙂

@aaronleverton4221

Жыл бұрын

So many comments think this is the clip that I've been looking for and at last it is here. Who the Hell clicks those links?

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronleverton4221 they get everyone once... It's a bot driving views to a random video.

@IstasPumaNevada

Жыл бұрын

@@aaronleverton4221 A better question is, why hasn't KZread done something about it? This one seems pretty easy to thwart, as far as these things go, and it's not like there's a shortage of examples.

I love how Ryan pulled out the advance math to prove Sondors lied about their 0-60.

@beepbop6697

Жыл бұрын

Maybe 0-60 kph in 6 seconds, lol.

@rick-7197

Жыл бұрын

@@beepbop6697 actually, you are right... 6.56 seconds

@VoodooMcVee

Жыл бұрын

@@rick-7197 Which is still a bit scam-ish because over here in the km/h-world we rate acceleration time for 0-100, which again is close to 0-60 mph (60 mph = 96 km/h).

@ChrisR57

Жыл бұрын

Ryan is becoming the "Sheldon Cooper" of the motorcycling world!!

@pumpjackmcgee4267

Жыл бұрын

They didn't account for Leprechaun Farts.

Always the best! More than 50 years riding and more than 40 in computers and it's heartening to see such competence in young generations. Rarely disagree with you and when I do it's for the age thingy. At my age, I will probably never buy an electric bike, but I already have an electric trottinette that makes me feel like a kid again, so your take on the matter would be interesting. 🙂

Just found your channel, and this production quality, writing, and "acting" is phenomenal and seems extremely rare on youtube now. And even your actual review of the bike wasn't completely one sided. Great video.

I like the concept of a minimalist e-motorcycle which has the spirit of a e-bicycle. A real errand runner which is not barred from taking a short jaunt on the highway. If the thing is reliable and doesn't leave you stranded with burnt-out MOSFETs I can see this bike making a lot of people very, very happy. What I'd like to see is some standardization in the lithium battery pack field. If the 50AH, 72V battery here (my rough guess) is costing you half the value of the bike, that's a significant investment. I'd like the battery to be able to be pulled easily, for urban dwellers who lack an outdoor charge outlet, and the compartment key-locked for battery theft prevention when briefly parked unattended. For homeowners, I'd like that battery pack to also work with a pure sine wave inverter as a handy AC power source during outages, and also be able to put it in a riding mower, powered watercraft (outboard or jet-ski), etc. Why buy multiple batteries for these things when you will be using only one of them at a time, or only sporadically?

@_implying

Жыл бұрын

batts start loosing charge over draining and refilling. using on batt for many appliances shortens it's lifespan significantly

@paulh6591

Жыл бұрын

@@_implying This is true, one may cycle a lithium battery only so many times, and overcharging or repeatedly charging right up to 100% capacity further diminishes its longevity. But they have a shelf life too, and there is a profound environmental cost to manufacturing them, and an obvious monetary cost to buying the bigger ones. Time is not your friend regarding your battery investment, may as well use that battery; they are not an ornament to place on a shelf. Sure, power your phones, portable devices with proprietary-use lithium batteries but for bigger (18, 36, 48, 72, 102 volt) batteries there should be set, interchangeable batteries in group sizes. Within that group a maker could have caddies for two such batteries within that group should the current capacity for power and range demands require it.

@berengerchristy6256

Жыл бұрын

This would require publicly traded for profit companies to coordinate efforts for consumer and environmental benefit. This won't happen because that doesn't maximize profits. Integrated, proprietary batteries maximize profits

@nhennessy6434

Жыл бұрын

Sound perfect if all I want to do is jaunt to my neighborhood grocery to pick up a few things, and stop by a local lunch place/pub on the way back. And for $5K. Plus I'm sure it prolly won't spike my electrical bill with the recharges. Might just look into it. Just wish the battey would come out like an ebikes.

@SyndikatChannel

Жыл бұрын

@@_implyingeven letting a Battery sit on its own it’s degradation is still ongoing. Especially when on low charge or even high charge.

I had the choice about a year ago - $5k (plus delivery fee of about $1k btw) for this or $4k total for a 2019 Ninja 400. I went with the Ninja and very glad I did, the performance on it just blows this thing out of the water. Plus I would have been pissed to learn about the effectively non-removable battery, that was a huge selling point to charge it under my desk at the office but not with that more complicated system. Glad I made the right decision!

@SmallSpoonBrigade

Жыл бұрын

From what I understand this is the first version and unlike the Ninja, it's going to have a lot less maintenance to deal with as well as being something that you can charge at home. Don't get me wrong, the Ninja will do a ton of stuff that this won't, so you'd probably have been unhappy with this one. But as a cheap commuter motorcycle, it's probably a better choice.

@JCDenton3

Жыл бұрын

@@SmallSpoonBrigade Maybe it is the first generation, but I would rather not be the one to beta test it on my dime. Maintenance is pretty easy and well understood on the Ninja, I did all the 7,500 mile stuff in the manual myself, and I think more mechanics would understand it over the metacycle right now. The other thing, the metacycle only started shipping recently. That means for $2k less I got about 6,500 miles in the saddle, and I calculated I saved an additional $1,750 in gas savings and parking fees this last year alone. I just don't feel there is anything the Metacycle can do right now aside from being electric that I am really missing. But hey, glad people are enjoying it for what it is, that's good. Maybe I'll get the Gen 3 down the road!

@slipkid68

Жыл бұрын

You saved 2K and have a real motorcycle with an actual, useable range. Smart move.

@jefferson2214

Жыл бұрын

Based ICE enjoyer

@RialuCaos

Жыл бұрын

Yep while I'd want an electric motorcycle, it's not going to be this one. I'll stick with my CB500F for now.

I've always loved the cinematography on these videos! Plus the writing! It's all conscious and deliberate. Love it

Reviews like no other. I will never cease to he impressed by your creativity and eloquence.

I was literally wondering about the walk around shot. Brilliant integration of advertising.

my god ! i can't even begin to express how blown away i am by your cinematography whoever is in your team of video creator's/editor's, need to be praised endlessly for this level of production

I've been following this channel for a number of years now, and I wonder if I'm the only one who is surprised to see an ad in the video for the first time?

Love the back and forth critique and compliments. Solid and fair review

Yet again, we're blown away by production value. Even if I didn't care about motorcycles (which I most certainly do!), your videos are a joy to watch.

Honestly, still more than enough to punch through town. I do hope more electric commuters pick up more speed and range over the years

@FortNine

Жыл бұрын

Definitely! I found myself wanting more range frequently, but rarely needed more speed. ~RF9

@joecamel6835

Жыл бұрын

You'll be eating the bugs and living in your pod before that happens i'm afraid .

@kannermw

Жыл бұрын

@@joecamel6835 LOL if that isn’t the truth. Electric motorcycle is like building an inferior motorcycle that costs significantly more, weighs more, has limited range and questionable long-term battery life. The proponents of this nonsense need plenty more soy milk to wash down those bugs

@mikek2258

Жыл бұрын

@@joecamel6835 nah new battery tech being built in australia atm improving tesla range upto 70%

@localenterprisebroadcastin5971

Жыл бұрын

Like all electric bikes it’s an underwhelming pile of crap

5:55 THAT WAS SO OUT OF POCKET, I never know what this man will say next and I love this channel for that exact reason

Love your shows - excellent, balanced review as always.

fortnine videos are really on another levels! congrats great video the sarcasm of the counting machine was priceless

That 360 editing is just out of this world. Unbelievably inventive. Host's charisma is matched by team's production flawlessly.

@marcusaurelius841

Жыл бұрын

I think the production level is awesome! But just FYI the 360 edit is pretty old and quite commonly used, so I wouldn't say inventive (:

@GRZNGT

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusaurelius841 I haven't seen a lot of videos utilizing 360 videos at all, so i might be just impressed by the novelty. Still, the way it's implemented within the narrative of the video makes it very cool.

@aidanoconnor7299

Жыл бұрын

@@GRZNGT like @marcus aurelius I've seen plenty of 360 shots (they have been normal in surfing, SUP and cycling videos for a few years) and I'm no fan. The rounded effect is interesting at first but I've some to the point that they irritate me. I watch TV / KZread on a rectangular screen so having the '360' look has lost its novelty and just feels distorted. That said, Ryan held off overdoing the spinning effect so the camera was more used as a tool than being the event so this is a good example of how it can be used.

@tdj5245

Жыл бұрын

It's really something! I wish there was some sort of camera product that would help me get 360 shots, but I haven't heard of any.

@darylclifford

Жыл бұрын

@@tdj5245 Maybe the 360 is the answer then ??

I love the camera work in this. Trippy and stunning. A great channel.

the guy counting the money while your talking about the sponsor is the real reason we all love you fortnine

FortNine's production value is consistently way above what you'd expect from 99% of other youtubers. absolutely amazing as always. Id listen to you explain how grass grows!

For anyone wondering Top speed - 82 mph Cruising speed - 69 mph Mixed riding range - 49 mi Weight - 332 lbs

@Jin-Ro

Жыл бұрын

Range is beyond bad.

@davidbarton1238

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. When I was a kid, the big push was that we were going metric. I wasn’t interested, didn’t want it, and it never happened. Now I wish it had.

@JBAutomotive794

Жыл бұрын

Freedom units

@chasebarber6154

Жыл бұрын

Nice.

@amicloud_yt

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbarton1238 Be the change you want to see. Start using metric!

As always, I love the film work and the delivery of the presentation. Keep up the awesome Fortnine! You have a lifetime subscriber!

I always get a kick out of your productions. Good content, with a dose of humor, still getting the point across.

I had one of the first deposits, and then fully purchase, on the Metacycle. I cancelled mine due to timeline slipping. My circumstances required me to have transpiration soon rather than maybe later. The spec slipping was not a deal breaker for me. But the schedule slip was. The lack of communication between the customer and the producer was lacking and left many doubts. I want an affordable electric motorcycle, but I think that the market is still only for the upper crust that has disposable income, and, possibly more importantly, disposable time to wait.

Not only do you make me love motorcycles even more, you make me want to be a filmmaker.

Love the artsmanship and comedy you guys put into your vids. Ive watched the baby blade video and TW200 videos multiple times

As always: great story, great shots, great delivery. Fantastic.

I am a biker and I watch FortNine. If i were not a biker i'd still watch FortNine. Written and performed well enough to be entertaining just on it's own merits. Well done. Great content.

I especially like how you snuck in the advertising before I even had a chance to fast forward. Nice work Ryan

I’ve never seen one your videos before so I don’t know if this is your standard quality, but this was so well-written that I didn’t even need it to be as well-produced as it is, but what a cherry on top! Great work!

*I LIKE THE WAY YOU PORTRAY AND PRODUCE YOUR REVIEWS.*

your editing is as always, impecable. such a fun watch

Been watching this channel for so many years now. Literally the only channel I wait for to release videos, and watch it within hours of release. Always brings a smile to my face with the amazing direction, quirky punchlines and objective reviews. Keep it up F9.

Possibly my favourite KZread content provider. Another great video, F9. Thanks! 👍

I like the information, flow and camera work in this video.

Great video as always but I think it would be worth mentioning that 5k was only the pre-order price, it is $6500 now.

I feel like I need a cinema in my house just to watch Fortnine videos

Now this is a presentation style that I’ve not seen before. Definite props for originality, and all the best going forward.

What a great review. Most reviewers seem to be biased toward a negative or a positive review, but you manage to get both points of view in the same video and do it in a very intelligent, entertaining, and thoughtful manner. You are worth more than they are paying you.

How useful is the "void" for storage. The oem thing probably doesn't hold a lot, but I can also see someone like Ryan just stuffing a backpack in the hole. And using tie downs around that thick bar. Being able to see that your bag is still there would be reassuring.

$6,500 US.... or roughly $9,000 Canadian. Not counting whatever import duty they charge at the border......but likely pushing this bike to over $10,000....for a hub-motor electric motorcycle. For that price, I want and expect a frame-mounted motor. As always, you guys make amazing videos that let consumers decide for themselves. But until Sondors can provide Canadians with proper pricing, without worrying about DIY pricing, they aren't ready for prime-time. Thank you for making this awesome video presenting one of the most interesting machines on the market.

@Joric78

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, shame they couldn't stick with that preorder price for retail.

@dasko3

Жыл бұрын

@@Joric78 Even then it would be close to $7000 Canadian with me doing all the importing myself and that's before any import duty. Also this means Buying a motorcycle from a company with no parts support which means within 2 years of the rear suspension having to deal with that giant heavy hub motor me watching to upgrade the suspension will be a challenge, as will a hub motor rebuild. If they had delivered a motorcycle with a frame mounted motor I think it would have been a legitimate competitor to motorcycles like the Honda CB300R but as this sits it's just not as good

Excellent production, almost like the OG Top Gear back and forth with call and response; you earned a sub!

The planning and execution of the video productions on this channel are never anything less than perfection.

Hands down, best motorcycle channel on KZread.

@OneWheelMan

Жыл бұрын

I normally agree, but am a bit disappointed by the misinformation in the title and video. They're $6,500 but they put $5,000 in the title....and this isn't a very recent price hike, it's been like that for months and months before this video was posted.

After a year and a half I got back on a bike and watching your channel, you still got it. Great video and entertaining with real words that are not watered down. Love your content.

One of the best videos on anything I’ve ever seen, in every way. Really good.

That ad was amazing! I’ve never seen such a perfect integration.

Ryan teaching us both about the motorcycle and the ways to use a insta360 all in one. Nice!

@gohjohan

Жыл бұрын

4:43 I'm not surprised if that's insta360 counting money in the background.

Beautiful film work on this one. The amount of time and effort put into this for such a short video is exceptional. Deserves a damn award for Videography

Best motorcycling channel, hands down. I'm so glad I found you. Greetings from Spain.

Good video and love the shoot in Vancouver, Miss you so much

Beautifully done, FortNine. I always look forward to your videos, and you all deserve more subscribers.

Unfortunately the part that killed the Metacycle was the loss of the removable battery. Paper math said that it'd just barely get me to work every day. Figured I could pop out the battery and charge it at the office, and head home with a full charge each day. Add in the auxiliary battery and range anxiety is gone. Killing that feature killed interest for me... Hello, Ryvid Anthem

I dont even own a motorcycle, never had one and always wanted a car, we could say I am a "car guy". But no car Channel has the same level of knowledge, amazing ideas and great shots(and editing) in their video. On top of that you are So consistent, that it is unreal. Amazing

@pi3ghost

Жыл бұрын

Only one to even come close is savagegeese.

Damn your videos improved insanely! The shots! Almost like an artistic movie! Your videos are one of the most professional series here on KZread!

Man I love your videos, they are a treat every single time!

A cinematic masterpiece as always thank you for quality content and entertainment!

As always, a great quality video! Thanks guys.

Dude. This channel blows me away

Amazing vid. As ever the problems remains that $5k gas bikes have gotten so good. You just get so much more performance and build quality for your money.

@spacecruisers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was all about this bike initially but I just don’t trust Sondors. I’m in the market for a cheap commuter and I’d take a Himalayan at this price point.

@someone46018

Жыл бұрын

You can buy two second hand KLRs with $5k... 😅

@berkovichify

Жыл бұрын

True. But running cost on this is very small compared to a gas bike.

@k.-flynn

Жыл бұрын

@@berkovichify until it needs literally any maintenance

@k.-flynn

Жыл бұрын

@@spacecruisers I have a Himalayan, great on gas and super easy to work on, but struggles to stay at 75mph.

At $5,000 it is in the realm of being a useful, affordable second commuter bike. But going on their site now, it's $6,500, which starts getting harder to justify, given it's range limitations and charging time - it is only ever going to be useful as a commuter.

Hats off, Herr Kluftinger! I always found your videos super interesting and entertaining and they just keep getting better. I probably have to watch this one 12 times just to appreciate what you did from an artistic perspective. Keep it up and always stick to the laws of physics! ;)

always a pleasure to see your videos. well done!

Very balanced review. Thank you, and hopefully, Sondors becomes the type of manufacturer that we're all hoping for them to become soon.

My concern is while at pricepoint, it makes sense for the shprt comings as any other of same price check. But some others of same price point are fixable of most short comings in comparison. I love that you do accurate reviews on these!

@kannermw

Жыл бұрын

EVs and their batteries are not cheap. You take significant cost out by downsizing the battery. Downsize the battery and the useful life and range go down exponentially. A major cost element in the battery is BMS which is has an initial high fixed cost independent of battery size. This fixed cost of BMS does nothing to enhance the useable range. There is no free lunch. Pay more initially or pay substantially more in the long-run. If you think you can buy cheap EV motorcycle without major pitfalls then you really can't afford one unless you need a 20 mile or less commuter that is single passenger only with limited overall utility. Then on resale there are not many buyers who want the same or there are but likely at 1/3 or less than the price of new.

@SirNarax

Жыл бұрын

@@kannermw It is worth considering that EVs and ICEs cannot be easily compared price point to price point. Selecting a 5,000 dollar EV and a 5,000 dollar ICE are not equal. The ICE costs much more as it will greatly surpass the EV in long term ownership costs. You are absolutely right though there isn't a 'free lunch' you pay more for more or you pay less for less. There isn't going to be a magic bullet that suddenly fixes the range besides fundamentally changing the shape of a motorcycle to be more aerodynamic. Just like you can't buy a 3,000 dollar 50cc scooter and expect it to munch highways, it just can't. You gotta temper your expectations.

@kannermw

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@@SirNarax Telling me to temper my expectations to accept a crappy more expensive EV technology is like suggesting I should pay more for a lessor product I don't want or like. EV motorcycle is a completely stupid idea for anything other than daily commuter. Majority of people in U.S. ride a motorcycle mostly for recreation not basic transportation to save money. When I ride a motorcycle it is typically on weekends and about 180 miles to 220 miles per day. I am not interested in sitting around for 6 or more hours waiting for a battery to charge in the middle of a trip to save at most $15-$20 for a day of riding which is peanuts. Maybe I leave knowing bad weather is coming or the weather starts to change and I want to get back before that happens. Time is way more valuable to me than money. I have purchased three new motorcycles since 2013 and never kept one more than 4.5 years. All mileage under 25K. In my personal use case and I imagine many others an EV motorcycle is a impractical money pit for morons.

@SirNarax

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@@kannermw That comment was for people capable of critical thought, with an open mind and weighing the pros and cons of a vehicle without getting emotional or irrational which you seem to be entirely incapable of. You don't even entirely know what you are talking about. You don't need to like something to view it fairly and with an open mind. This is just stupidity and not worth any more of my time.

Your presentation style, editing and production remind me of the good old days of Top Gear (UK) and im here for it

I've been eyeing one of these for a while now- I don't believe they are $5000 anymore, more like $7000. The range and speed profile fit my daily commute perfectly with some to spare. I have the room to store it in the winter. Things I would change: Yes the extra taillight and plate thingy would be removed immediately and replaced with something more appealing. First things first- I would replace the handlebars with a pair of clip-on's, but that's just for me and my riding style.

@louiec.9782

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It's 7k he was wrong on the 5k

@mngf1

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ah yes, lied to yet again 😂

@tombennett9671

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@@louiec.9782 Those getting Metacycles now paid $5k + $700 delivery fee. If you order now, it is $6k plus the delivery fee.

@v000000000000v

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@@louiec.9782 5k was the original price, then sondors cancelled a bunch of the preorders and forced them to pay the updated price, sondors is so shady

@jamesbizs

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@@v000000000000v no one is forced to do anything

Yeah, just like almost every other comment I'm very satisfied with your content and high professional level of content creation! I've been a motorcycle rider since seven years old, I still ride and all your different videos makes me even more interested. Great videos guys! I just wished you had a shop for international buyers. Greets from Sweden FTW🤘

That's some creative filmmaking and an engaging review. Kudos! Now, explain that first shot, I'm assuming a pull-through of the 360 camera from a parallel bike. Smoooooth!

Love the way you run an ad... You seem to be the only one that can do it without being annoying, 🙂

Congratulations on being the 1st to publish a review of the Metacycle by someone with enough of a motorcycle reviewing history to be credible! I’ve been waiting for a review for a while. Not as long, however, as I’ve been waiting for the Metacycle that I paid in full for in February 2021

@David-Field.Stuff01

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What a pity that the reviewer hasn't acknowledged that many riders of petrol bikes hold onto the petrol tank with their thighs and that this machine doesn't offer that comfort and safety feature.

@davidvitan3590

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@@David-Field.Stuff01 that's neither comfortable nor safe lol

I almost ordered one of these then decided against it because of the range issue. I'm 2 hours away from any mountains so I went with a KTM 390 Adventure instead.

Really enjoyed this video and how much info it has packed into it for 7 1/2 minutes. Great production value and your presentation is concise in a way that is evocative of Jeremy Clarkson in Top Gear. Subscribed and look forward to more videos, keep up the good work!

Luke McAdam is a master of the craft. This video was expertly done

This is exactly the type of electric motorbike I've been arguing for all along: affordable, adequate power, usable range, exchangeable battery.. it overcomes the obsession of electric vehicles having blistering performance just because they can. And yet I'm left wanting more - more range, especially. This will be a great stepping stone to a range of bikes that are genuinely usable and meet the needs of a variety of riders. As it stands, this bike would be fine for my commute to work - but it doesn't have enough range to get to the other side of town and back. That's a pretty big limitation for most of us.

@Garridon

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I have an idea: where you have the option to have a storage compartment in that hole in the frame, make the option for a second battery for those that want extended range

@FortNine

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I feel similarly! We even made a video on why these cheap, minimal e-motorcycles are the solution to our slow adoption of e-motorcycles: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gWauzrupqZm3c7A.html . I credit Sondors with filling the gap, and if they improve on the Metacycle in Gen 2 and 3 it has the potential to be a serious disruptor. ~RF9

@MarkovChains223

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And it doesn't really have an exchangeable battery. Not in any practically meaningful way

@23Shadowfox23

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okay this is interesting, I live in the Netherlands, and we have a total different view of distance to be travelled. With this motorcycle I could drive through 3 medium sized cities (enschede-hengelo-almelo) AND back without charging once. How big are your towns that you can only travel one way in a town?? Is it very rural or something?

@dielaughing73

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@@MarkovChains223 why so? Because there's no standardisation and widespread adoption? I wonder if that will ever come.

Each and every video from you makes me feel like a child on Christmas day again! You guys are awesome and deserve a lot of cookies (yes, I suspect someone is holding the camera too, although that grabbing-the-camera-mid-corner scene made me wonder). Would you ever come to Sweden, I would personally greet you at the airport with the biggest box of cookies you've ever seen. Hey, I could almost even consider letting you ride my bike.

God damn video quality , without any rubbish scripting absolute Netflix quality videos hats-off.

I watch a lot of videos. Amazing! Well done on so many levels!

Great review, thanks Had one pre ordered right when announced, kept through all the delays then went to see it at the LA expo and canceled right after. Too small and was rough around the edges. Was looking like it would never meet its specs and it seems that turned out true

@spartanx169x

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Its chinese, did you really expect something different? They are incapable of making a quality product of their own design. Their first thought is to make it as cheap as possible, knowing that enough suckers will buy it. Proof? Anything on Amazon that is from a chinese supplier that is a knockoff of another product.

@tunahxushi4669

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It's 100% Chinese made and marketed the way Chinese always do (lie), expect this and you will not be surprised in the future. People from western countries need to stop buying the absolutely cheapest components and start buying quality component they can afford from manufactures who don't have hundreds of slave labor camps making the parts or rapaciously mining, and dumping all the toxins into the ground, water and air. Zero manufactures excellent Electric machines.

I discovered your channel recently and I cannot state how much I enjoy your tone and production. Second to none. So thanks, and keep it going.

Like WOW @ your production values in this video, man!

The heart of the ocean, I'm dying!!! Love your videos my dude.

Bloody Brilliant - as usual. This was so good I watched it twice ! Informative / creative / well shot and funny as hell. Well done ! Still laughing about the removable battery comments!