‘The target buyer is young, debt free and has six figures of expendable income. She is a green environmentalist, but always wished to enter competitive power sports. Lives in the city, but has a garage...’ Perfection.

@silverchimes81

3 жыл бұрын

And has a unicorn. That’s really important, although why anyone would want a unicorn is beyond me. Their teeth would put a shark to shame.

@perrycalabrese3475

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan makes these comments while wearing $1k of riding gear and... "The net worth of FortNine's channel through 6 Jun 2021. $1,106,380. Interesting.

@I_Santos_

3 жыл бұрын

@@perrycalabrese3475 Ryan is not making fun of high income people. He is merely pointing out that the motorcycle industry is targeting a very small and specific minority with EV bikes, thus it is unsurprising that they sell so little.

@dcaonoek

3 жыл бұрын

@@I_Santos_ he's more taking a stab at the fact these people don't actually exist. The people who do buy these bikes are those not afraid to experiment. Everyone else wants to know it'll work.

@I_Santos_

3 жыл бұрын

@@dcaonoek exactly.

Ryan: *releases this video* The motorcycle industry: "Write that down, write that down!"

@jcwoods2311

3 жыл бұрын

Nope. They're trying their best to have KZread suppress the video and de-platform Ryan.

@raymgriff

3 жыл бұрын

@@jcwoods2311 is that for real?

@johndoe70770

3 жыл бұрын

In your dreams lol, I mean ours.

@DK-jd8bj

3 жыл бұрын

Elon musk needs to start building motorcycles. Current Motorcycle companies are notoriously slow at upgrading. TW200 is still the most practical motorcycle made from back in the '80s without any upgrades.

@naws69

3 жыл бұрын

yeah sure buddy

In Taiwan (which has a very high motorcycles/scooters number per capita for a developed country) Gogoro has become THE scooter brand of the moment despite not being especially cheap. And it is an EV. They have battery swapping stations everywhere in big cities and we are a relatively small but densely populated country.

@mb7196

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Works amazingly well. It's the swapping stations that really make it work. Faster than filling the tank with gas. Cities need to help commit to the infrastructure, but the stations are just small kiosks that don't take up a ton of space so it's not difficult especially in most large spread out N. American cities with tons of space. I think the biggest issue would be convincing N. Americans to get out of their cars and ride a scooter. Winters in colder cities don't make that prospect much fun but it could work amazingly well in warmer southern cities.

@IronKurone

Жыл бұрын

What's about SYM? Do they have E motor I've always wonder.

@mb7196

Жыл бұрын

@@IronKurone I think they have some e scooters too. And I think they have swappable batteries as well but I don't know the details.

@williamwilson6499

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t work in America. People don’t like to cooperate and the homeless would steal the batteries for their curbside shanties.

@GeorgeS-fe7eh

11 ай бұрын

You would do even better with electric bycicles. Cos those do allow some fitness exercise and are better handling usually. People buy motorcycles for adventure, open road outside city. You don't need such high horsepower to weight ratio in city.

In Europe e-scooters are quite popular especially in urban environments. They reach 70km/h for a total of 100km which is plenty for city commuting in addition to noise reduction and great acceleration.

@Timmehhhhhh

Жыл бұрын

I'm from the Netherlands, and i don't think i have ever seen an e-scooter that fast...🤔

@Faunarr

Жыл бұрын

@@Timmehhhhhh they probably are legally constrained to 50kph

@kaptein1247

Жыл бұрын

@@Timmehhhhhh Because most people drive mopeds. A motorcycle license is relatively expensive. And a moped is often allowed on the cycle paths. So most people opt for the moped

@kaptein1247

Жыл бұрын

@bkdmx 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Not at all. Only Holland, Belgium, germany and a few others have a specific 25 kmph catagory.... And in germany and belgium Ive only seen the moped catagory, so Im guessing it isnt even that popular. Only reason a big part of 50cc bikes in holland are in the 25kmph catagory is because its one of the few countries with proper bicycle infrastructure

@kaptein1247

10 ай бұрын

@@THDevill they have 25kmph catagories?

“Since we are dealing directly with the factory, the children offered to build.....” lol.

@tedcity5861

3 жыл бұрын

Spyware included ! Thanks China

@roberthansen9558

3 жыл бұрын

That was funny!

@midgetman4206

3 жыл бұрын

Oohh... now I get it

@LightCrasher

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, totally unlike the US wich uses mexican children for that. Oh, the irony.

@notastone4832

3 жыл бұрын

@@LightCrasher they get paid better than the chinese.. ironically the chinese outsource stuff to mexico too.. fentanyl production

"hardware, spyware all in" "the children offered to build the motor axle to match my swingarm width" Can always count on F9 for these lines lol

@tabryis

3 жыл бұрын

And self hating rhetoric

@Baleur

3 жыл бұрын

The trump logic is stong in america.

@bimfred

3 жыл бұрын

@@Baleur The irony is weak where you come from.

@motox570

3 жыл бұрын

@@Baleur Rent free. Kek

@DieselRamcharger

3 жыл бұрын

@@Baleur Quiet from the gulag.

@7:43 I just noticed the 'stick' stand. Simply lovely.

This is spot on. Here in Southeast Asia, EV scooters are exploding. They're selling like hotcakes at just around $300 a pop. Tiny bike, with tiny range - perfect for just jetting back and forth between the wet marker and home.

@CrossfeetGaming

4 ай бұрын

Except, now we have people who just drive like a maniac in these things because they think regular road rules do not apply to them. Seriously, they actually need to be licensed by this point.

@sensid-iwnl-5201

3 ай бұрын

@@CrossfeetGamingregular road rules should not apply to them

@agilemind6241

13 күн бұрын

@@CrossfeetGaming Because when the laws disrespect you, you disrespect the laws. We need to stop treating everything not on a sidewalk like a car. We need rules & infrastructure tailored to different modes of transportation.

I'm going to guess it has something to do with Harley selling theirs for $30k

@Gherbert1348

3 жыл бұрын

Not just them, Zero ain't exactly cheap...

@Bigrednumber77

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm Harley being Harley

@diamondheat9

3 жыл бұрын

Why buy a 30k electric Harley when you can buy a comfortable and nice 30k Tesla?

@MsRafachannel

3 жыл бұрын

Harley is a luxury brand. I dont think this is the reason. The same way Bentley sells their SUV for $177.000 and the SUV market is not failing because of this

@King-ww1kz

3 жыл бұрын

Of course!!!!

Ryanf9: put a 2 stroke engine on a bicycle Also Ryanf9: Converts 2 stroke motorbike into an EV Future Ryanf9: Nuclear powered CanAm

@FortNine

3 жыл бұрын

Shhh... the plans for the Ballistic Beaver are still secret. ~RF9

@noirceur_

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortNineWell well well... now I'm not only JUST curious, I'm also slightly aroused. Which I think all of us can blame that on Ryan's personal "aerodynamic" design language 👌🏼🔥 🤣

@americanfarmer2779

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortNine I've heard of a nuclear battery being developed in California that will be available to buy in 5 years... whether that is true or not we will have to wait and see!

@Aciimov

3 жыл бұрын

@@americanfarmer2779 testicle cancer

@davem8836

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortNine No sooner do you start talking about electric motorcycles and someone had to bring up poor Ishmael.

Regarding the single gear point, all brushless hub motors are capable of star delta switching. What this means is that they effectively have two electrical gears. You do need access to all 6 power wires not just the normal three but that’s nothing a soldering iron can’t fix. One mode is high torque and the other is high speed. When you run out of speed it isn’t that you lack power as such, for any winding configuration there is a top speed related to your voltage, as you approach that point the motor generates an equal and opposite voltage to the battery meaning that at that rpm no power is drawn. Of course in practice you will never reach that zero power point on flat ground.

@slayerficated

5 сағат бұрын

That's rad. I assume that's already implemented in motor controllers like the one on my Talaria right?

This is the video that made me buy my electric scooter. Was seriously tempted to build my own like this, but with no real workshop and whole bikes becoming quite affordable, I bought one. Quite similar to this one in specs I now realize. Battery looks to be about the same size, though the engine and top speed are limited to 1000W and 25kmh to abide by local regulations. Works perfectly, even fits in my elevator and tiny apartment.

I think manufacturers simply don't want to accept that the average price will have to go down. That's why they keep offering high end high margin bikes. they'd rather it fail than set a standard for affordability they don't want.

@subjekt5577

Жыл бұрын

Which suits me fine, since a bunch of no name startups are now eating the big boys lunch

@andrewvirtue5048

Жыл бұрын

@@JB-1138 True. But those aren't electric.

@chrish4439

Жыл бұрын

@@JB-1138 Those aren't electric and omg don't get one of those dumb mini bikes 🤦‍♀️. Spend the relatively tiny bit more a get a cb300r. Same style but it's actually a bike you can use and not look like a dork on lmao

@WhoTFVotedBiden

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t capitalism beautiful

@paulpower5028

Жыл бұрын

@@WhoTFVotedBiden yes. it gives me freedom and wealth

“Big motorcycle” will put a machine with _air conditioning_ to market before they consider a practical business strategy.

@b4ll4z

3 жыл бұрын

😆 Sometimes on hot summer days I wish I had a hose bringing A/C inside my helmet, I wouldn't be too mad if they come up with something like that 😅

@buffybuff992

3 жыл бұрын

Filling your helmet with liquid nitrogen could be the solution good sir.

@viel.anthony

3 жыл бұрын

Well, I do have what is basically a heater for my legs and feet on my Goldwing LOL

@Kurvan

3 жыл бұрын

@@viel.anthony My first thought was the Goldwing leg heaters too. Honda is decades ahead of the punchline

@viel.anthony

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kurvan Love my 1500. It's an SE so it's got the toe warmers as well. I can ride at midnight even it's 4 celsius out there and it feels good.

I rode my Zero DSR over 600 miles on a two week trip this summer in the European alps and was surprised at how well it went. It’s a different way of travelling compared to the 1200RS my dad was on and used to, but we had a great time riding together regardless. Riding an electric motorcycle works, but requires a change in riding behaviour.

@huey-fan8335

2 ай бұрын

Well, I have an Energica EVA, and I went 710 km last weekend alone....went very well

i need a step-by-step build guide for that thing, my man.

Pretty simple: affordable ones consistently have terrible styling and the cool ones are ridiculously expensive.

@stevejeffrey11

2 жыл бұрын

also small range, won't even make it from town to town here in Canada

@kh8655

2 жыл бұрын

@@guessundheit6494 ...said the person posting a 6 year old video

@paullangford8179

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevejeffrey11 Cars won't make it without refueling between towns in Canada. It's just like Australia.

@halrox247

2 жыл бұрын

@@guessundheit6494 Thank you for proving my point. Ugly AF. Putting blue LED accents and making it look like an Apple product doesn't make it "cool". If you want to ride this George Jetson Vespa be my guest. Noone will look at it twice other than to point and laugh.

@JamesBiggar

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, had to build my own and managed to do it for 1/3 of the cost. The claims of not being able to drive from town to town in Canada is debatable though, and bike type/riding style plays a big role in this too. Some bikes like the Zero S and my custom build can provide slightly over 100 km/charge with a 4-6 kWh battery (which is relatively small, producing a light curb weight of ~300 lbs compared to their ICEB counterparts like the 350 lbs CBR300) while others like the SR/F can do 200 km's with a similar power to weight ratio as an R6, and guess what? An R6 only gets a max 200 km's per tank fill up too. So I don't see the problem in terms of range. Buy what suits you, if you can afford it lol. Whether or not you make it from town to town depends on the same factors as an ICEB; your batt capacity, your route and how many charge stations you want to ignore along the way. Contrary to popular belief (which seems to hinge on information and technology from 5-10 years ago 90% of the time), the charging network in Canada is massive and growing everyday. There are multiple level 1 and 2 charging stations in every major town and city. Google 'Canada ev charging network map'. According to my math, if a person has a 12-14 kWh battery to play with then they shouldn't run into any problems from either direction until they get into Ontario - even petrol vehicles run out of fuel on that stretch of highway if a person isn't careful. But they'd do really well to make it across Ont. on most e-moto's without getting stranded in the middle of nowhere. Other than that, there shouldn't be a problem. Not here in NB or the rest of the Atlantic provinces, anyway. Charge time shouldn't be much of an issue either. Most battery tech today is capable of 2 or 3C charging. Hell, my sponsor Grepow can build their batteries with 5C charging capability. That's. Fast. Like, plug it in, sip a coffee for 15 minutes and it's time to go again. I don't know about anyone else, but after a couple hundred klicks on a bike I'm ready to take a break and stretch my back and legs, take a leak, have a bite to eat/drink, etc. There's a reason why my naked sport only has a 4 kWh battery; it's mainly a commuter and I don't plan on being bent over for more than 100 km's at a time. 23 years working construction + a leaning posture just doesn't allow it. With that said, the # 1 complaint that I've gotten over the years promoting these things is the lack of sound. #2 is style/cosmetics. I referred to Zero motorcycles here, but I can't stand the look of them or 99% of other e-motos on the market. They're just too goofy. Even with subpar backyard build quality, the styling on my DIY build is so much better. #3 is range. Put sound generators and >12 kWh batteries in the right bikes for an affordable price, and they'll sell. Electrifying cruisers and touring bikes makes as much sense as electrifying 18 wheelers. It's not worth it, you'd be lugging too much weight around to get the range that you want without having to charge up more than once/day. But for sport bikes, street bikes, mopeds/scooters, anything that most people aren't spending 4-8 hrs/day on would benefit from an electric drivetrain if the manufacturers would smarten up and make them more appealing. The price will come down in time as infrastructure pays for itself and investors get their return, just as wind and solar tech costs have dropped dramatically this past decade. Battery tech isn't far behind. Riding e-motos the past few years is the most fun I've had on anything with a motor and wheels. But to each their own. I certainly don't judge anyone for opting to not get one...but you should consider it, or a conversion. It's nowhere near as complicated as it might seem, and it's so much fun.

This is one of the smartest videos I've probably ever seen. Engineering, market analysis and a business case all packaged in not even 9 minutes of a video. I'm seriously impressed, hats off.

@FranciscoTC

2 жыл бұрын

And great comedy on top of that👏👏

@Sopixil

2 жыл бұрын

I subscribed because of this video, excellently made

@linguistisch

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sopixil Same.

@MATonTUBE

2 жыл бұрын

yep!

@rickbunte3147

2 жыл бұрын

I’m also seriously impressed!

Yeah, I got an E-bike, and I have to agree. It works as a short-range city bike, but not if you're doing any significant traveling to and from a location.

Close to a dream e-motorbike. Cheap, light, looks fine as all get up and practical. I've been bitten by the two wheel bug since getting a pedal e-bike, it's amazing to get around on and take back trails and shortcuts but I'd love something faster I can have on the road. It's a smart way to get around and I do like the idea of having an electric for ease of use and low maintenence but I think I definitely want an ICE bike as well

@redemptionjack4657

3 ай бұрын

E mortor bikes can't go on highways, and most speed ways for local commute sure, but the mortor cycle demigraphic has all but killed it (for mass adoption).

The tubes screensaver brought me back to a simpler time

@shshnkbhskr

3 жыл бұрын

On an iMac no less lol

@joehnsn

3 жыл бұрын

That was 100% intentional. These guys really add a lot of depth to their content, phenomenal production work.

@davidc1961utube

3 жыл бұрын

@@two_motion Anal-retentive. That’s a hyphen, NOT a dash...

@bd604

3 жыл бұрын

@@shshnkbhskr that was the cherry 👌

That side stand at 8:00 is only for legends.

@jasonhalljaxyt

3 жыл бұрын

LOL totally missed that

@johndoe70770

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for pointing out

@Jesse.Crenshaw

3 жыл бұрын

Anything to keep the weight down!

@NamAnhyyy

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonhalljaxyt shut up

@chizorama

3 жыл бұрын

It's organic, the kids will love it...

i built my own custom electric bicycle, it goes 40-45mph, i think the biggest thing that needs to be added to electric motorcycles is 1. chains, i will take a chain over hub motor any day, it has more torque and a mid-drive motor drives a crank instead of the wheel itself giving it more power 2. using a mid-drive motor and a chain could allow for gears on the wheel similar to a bicycle, allowing faster speed in high gears and high torque in low gears, it would help with the problem of a rear hub motor trying to put out more torque the faster you go. there is so many ways electric motorcycles could be improved and built

Late to the party here, but as a follower of the movement for years now, i can say that for all the electrical vehicles, motorcycles make the MOST sense because of lightness. There's an inverse curve of weight to torque to aerodynamics, and at some point, like Tesla is finding out, you just reach a plateau where you're brute forcing more range with more weight. Superlight motorcycles, at or under 100kg can have that hundred miles of range, but they have to accept that a LOT of motorcycle classic features and styles just can't be thrown on a vehicle where rider weight matters, let alone curb weight.

E-bikes could be one of the primary modes of travel in dense urban zones along with OG bikes and public transport. That would be so sick

@pnblondon1087

2 жыл бұрын

I've got news for you. E-bikes are already one of the primary modes of travel in the Netherlands!

@robk7266

Жыл бұрын

There are some crazy ebikes put there. Some of them are basically motorcycles you don't need a license, registration, or insurance for. You can even take "shortcuts" on bike trails

@johndoe6032

Жыл бұрын

@@pnblondon1087 In the US there are virtually no cities with bike-friendly roads, and with half of people on the road looking at their phones, you're greatly increasing your risk of major injury.

@drill_fiend1097

Жыл бұрын

In the bay area they are very abundant. Not much electric motorbikes, but a bunch of electrically assisted bicycles. Really great for commuting. Technically they are limited to 20mph to be compatible with bike trails, but I'd bet some people are quietly modding them beyond that limit, not sure.

@storrho

Жыл бұрын

@@pnblondon1087 One of the few places in the world where e-bikes are a negative development.

I looked into getting one but the prices are just obscene for what they are offering. I was really disappointed.

@CBecker

3 жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD My struggle is I live very rural so I need something more substantial then an e-bike. I am also a bigger guy so I need something that's going to be equivalent to a 400-600cc bike. I travel less then 20-40 miles a day. Everything I could find was 10,000$ plus. When you compare that to a traditional gas bike your looking at closer to 5000.

@ign7715

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mikey__R ayo stop scaring me, I live in the EU

@PixelationMusic

3 жыл бұрын

For the price of some of these electric bikes you can buy a fully loaded plug-in hybrid car. It’s insane.

@fartingfury

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mikey__R I don't foresee the EU banning IC bikes anytime soon: They only applied Euro5 emissions standards to bikes NINE years after they did for cars. A ban is decades away, if ever, given how the engine is such an important part of the experience.

@yeoldchief7711

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, for most urban use it's fine... Here's the thing, a lot of cities in the UK are not flat unless you're living on the east side of the country, so what's that thing like taking on hills?

Absolutely loving this, and agreeing with you on all points. Though couldn't you help some of the problems along with a center mounted electric motor with gears and a chain? Would make it slightly more efficient on low and high speeds right?

These videos are so well made your almost the only reason I still watch KZread anymore ❤ love the channel and keep up the amazing work to all the people making Fortnite possible 😊🥰

5:54 "$1400 from China. Hardware, SPYWARE, all in." LOL! I'm dead!

@briansmobile1

2 жыл бұрын

"Since were working directly with the factory, the CHILDREN offered to build the motor to match the frame rails!" Savage!

@zoyka2126

2 жыл бұрын

That is so true. Every app on the market you get thats Chinese, is 100% spyware.

@philgray1023

2 жыл бұрын

My clothes are following my every move.

@justsomecommie2638

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoyka2126 Everything you get even made in America is 100% spyware.

@justsomecommie2638

2 жыл бұрын

@Google Account Pretty funny coming from Google.

"hardware, spyware all in" good thing I didin't drink anything at this moment

@folou9199

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan has a way with words

@geesegoose6174

3 жыл бұрын

"and the children even matched the colors" dude knows what china is 😂

@wez9620

3 жыл бұрын

@@geesegoose6174 I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of vinnie the pooh jokes though

Idk, Im actually noticing a lot more e-bikes on the street nowadays ...Perhaps they just needed a little time ...Great video, love all the work you put in to your channel ...Very high quality material, with a Hollywood style polish and shine.. Awesome voice , and delivery. Keep up the good work buddy!

Nice video. I had to go back and look a second time. That TC90 model with the dual range transmission was my first motorcycle. I rode it with the ICE for many years. Fun little bike.

"I'm no physician". It's the little things in these videos that get me.

@lumberjackdreamer6267

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I got it upon second viewing.

@takobaba8616

2 жыл бұрын

is he a physician

@MrSvenovitch

2 жыл бұрын

He's a knob who thinks he's smooth. Won't help sales either.

@lurkingfell

2 жыл бұрын

I'm no science rocket but I totally agree with you

@siamackyousofi9534

2 жыл бұрын

He probably needs a physician!

this is actually a really interesting idea for someone looking to refurb an otherwise junked classic bike. There's a ton of old hondas and kawasakis in my area that look alright cosmetically but have rusted tanks, junk engines and disintegrating wiring harnesses. With old stock drying up this could be a great way to get a second or potentially even third life out of these 40-60yr old bikes.

@notaword1136

3 жыл бұрын

Ev conversions are a wonderful, although really small, part of the motorcycle community you can even find a guy who straight up made his own from scratch

@mattduffyw99

3 жыл бұрын

I have a restoration project in my garage that I've been "getting to" for some time now. Ev conversion actually makes a lot more sense...

@_Zaid

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the 50s Jaguar -> Tesla swap in progress on SuperFastMatt's channel

@samuelsmith6281

3 жыл бұрын

Get an old Honda Cub brought back to life with a cheap electric motor and battery. Nice!

@cameron2325

3 жыл бұрын

The old frames typically can't take the extra torque. I've been advised not to swap my '79 750 for a 1100 bc it'll bend the frame. And if a 40yo 1100 could do that I wonder what a modern electric motor would do.

As someone who bikes (not an e-bike!), there is a lot of conflation with two wheels = dangerous. I would need to regularly go about 50 miles at one go in order to even start thinking about it.

@mynameisnotsp

11 ай бұрын

Also, people need to realize this: Bikes aren't dangerous. A death box weighing 2,500 pounds, made out of steel, going at a high speed on the road (cars) are dangerous.

These videos are ridiculously good.

This guy's on-camera skills are fantastic. What a joy to behold. Reminds me of early day Clarkson.

@lycrisMUSICVEVO

2 жыл бұрын

and now time james may , ow wait , all time james may

@ak-gp6ug

2 жыл бұрын

camera skills are also very prime top gear. the shots of the rides give you that joy and longing to hit the road

The windows screensaver on the mac was hilarious

Great video and spot on! I think the electric bicycle market will be the sector that eventually moves the bar for electric motorcycles. The Ariel Rider Grizzly or the Surron ebikes are so darned close I could imagine them taking the next step in a few years.

You were in Squamish!! Thats dope.

You singlehanded do what the entire production of BBC top gear (the good one) tried to accomplish. Factual, stunning cinematography, entertaining and never forced.

@davidgreen7392

2 жыл бұрын

But full of BS.

@evshrug

Жыл бұрын

No, the BBC tried to do that part too, though they may have achieved that part 😂

@george5156

Жыл бұрын

The second top gear with Clarkson was simply racist drunks

@tahruyn1409

Жыл бұрын

i hope you mean tried to accomplish in the sense of they tried to achieve this and succeeded, because in reality, the good BBC top gear really did succeed in doing this

@read_the_tds1768

Жыл бұрын

@@tahruyn1409 yes. That is a better way of putting it, thank you

“misunderestimate” my favorite non-word.

@DSchig

3 жыл бұрын

Mine too! Thanks George Dubya!

@crazy10seven

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Juan, big fan here,awesome that you watch this great channel too

@arcanondrum6543

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with every comment in this thread. Usually my comments are longer. I'll use the extra space to ask everyone to view the Playlists on My Channel, not for my benefit but for ours.

@hossesarse

2 жыл бұрын

This and he made absinthe legal in the States again. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

@landedzentry

2 жыл бұрын

Your comment perhaps, has some value - if wrong forgive my amisunderestimation . Non-words do have a worthvalue in my mindsetopinion.

This nailed the issue at hand very accurately and fun. I'm a fan of e skateboards with a budget I got a meepo Hurricane with AT cloudwheels and a phantom with cloud wheels. Recently got a 2 battery Gosen e bike that does 100 miles at 28mph. It does half and at 25mph on a full battery. My budget is 3k US next year and I'm definitely interested in something with more torque. You can find LSM rides that offer that and go 50mph with no need for a motorcycle license. Anything more than 5K US and your just showing off. Since you can just get a moped that does more for far less on gas.

We need a 1 year later update on this one... @FortNine

Having lived in China, I can tell you the cheap electric scooter is the most popular mode of transportation except in cities where they have been banned. I lived in Guangzhou, where they were banned because they were so popular they clogged the streets and caused gridlock. Traveling to smaller cities like Zhanjiang, the electric motorbike was the most affordable option for many families. I often saw entire families riding down the street on a scooter meant for two. The most I saw on a scooter was six, two adults, and four kids, one being a baby in a papoose-like carrier. I had a cheap scooter at a friend's house I kept in a storage closet plugged into a regular outlet to recharge. The only thing I saw that made them a little dangerous, besides whole families riding one, is they are silent. Many times I was almost run over crossing a street at night because a rider was not using his lights to conserve battery. The silent scooter with no lights on has taken out many people who never knew what hit them.

@smoxesk

2 жыл бұрын

Best thing I ever buy accept from my gaming PC I never knew they existed till 6 months ago I now have 3 will be buy my next one when I cam afford it then am calling it a day they amazing and love always and going off road

@doomer_to_boomer2402

2 жыл бұрын

"The most I saw on a scooter was six, two adults, and four kids, one being a baby in a papoose-like carrier." So, three child policy + 1 as crumple zone 😁👌

@crpth1

2 жыл бұрын

About carrying more than normal on motorbikes or scooters. This particular one I observed in Nigeria - Africa. But could have been in any other African country or most of Asia. Three ADULTS one man (rider) and two women (passengers). NOW the cream of the crop. One entire, live and not so young calf!! The poor thing was somehow tied up, on it's side, over the head light/steering/tank. in a position that can only be called torture! Rather horrific scene, the poor calf eyes were a good tell tale! With most of the body literally hanging over all those metal bits! Anyway it was a pretty common scene! Also commonly seen with chickens, goats, more Humans all sorts of cargo, etc. While all this procession was passing on the dirt road. The driver was happily using it's phone!! LOL 😂 Definitely can't be judged by developed countries standards. ;-)

@wigletron2846

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen entire families on scooters a lot in Greece. No electric though. It's all 2 stroke so you definitely know they're coming lol.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis

2 жыл бұрын

@@wigletron2846 ‘whispering death’ (originally applied to trolley buses) vs ‘loud pipes save lives’.

I want that ElectroSuzuki, You should go into production...

@user-de4cq6uk6l

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Huck Cycles, they basically make the same thing as in the video

@Industrious420

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-de4cq6uk6l yeah for 10x the price...this hipster shop is NOT the answer

@user-de4cq6uk6l

3 жыл бұрын

@@Industrious420 exactly, if someone could mass produce ebikes like that for $500-$800 a pop it would be a massive success

@Industrious420

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-de4cq6uk6l I think something in the 2-4k range would sell like hot cakes 🔥

@boozy8659

3 жыл бұрын

Not that tekky to make they have similar kits for regular bicycles

First time watching your channel, an incredibly well rounded video. You have a subscriber. 👍

lmao love your humor wasn't sure where u was gonna go with this short documentary! Cousin had an e-bike 10 years ago, amazing how MC, cars and ebikes are everywhere now.

"I ain't gettin' any more aerodynamic..." Oof, I felt that.

@kornelkovacs5662

2 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to get to a very ideal round shape but even this way there is some significant drag at high speeds :D

@speedbuggy16v

2 жыл бұрын

@@kornelkovacs5662 same!

I totally agree, I have been wondering for a while why the big motorcycle manufacturers aren't realizing they can make good money in the mean time with e bicycles until the density of batteries get to a point where it has more energy or the charging gets fast enough to make sense and they become easier to use as well.

2 жыл бұрын

Chinese electric scooter manufacturers realized few months ago :D

@backcountyrpilot

2 жыл бұрын

My girlfriend’s Haibike e-bike has a Yamaha motor🤔

@JoeGo101

2 жыл бұрын

@@backcountyrpilot yeah I saw that too, but why is there no r125 equivalent electric city bike/dirt bike

@Nightdare

2 жыл бұрын

@ All those cheap electric scooters have a battery that, when it fails (still happens too often), is more expensive than the complete scooter

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nightdare But it is still very affordable, easy to ride for anyone without motorcycle driving licence - everything said about why electric motorcycle are failing. (for me it is not reason to sell my KTM, but neither reason to not ride electric scooter as well)

Excellent video--efficient, smart, funny, needed!

it is an old video, but i was planning on doing a similar thing with a project bike, but a way bigger battery and motor. (had found a 27kw motor at 72V from a small excavator XD for a great price) but the two main problems were i couldnt find a good donor bike for its frame (and didnt want to splash extra for one in operation and have to deal with selling of its engine and working parts and two i didnt/dont have a garage to work on it (nor the tools... but space being the main issue, as tools can be slowly acquired if you have where to put them and use them) still a dream project 6 years later

Ryan just went full Thanos:- "Fine, I'll do it myself."

@sabiti5428

2 жыл бұрын

What's funny to me is this is that the bike he made its very similar to the Scrambler style ebikes already on the market, the only major difference is they have pedals

Ryan builds an electric motorcycle. Everyone who has a project motorcycle: We're going electric!

@AlexSmashX3

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh not gonna lie, I'm considering it.

@vascomarum

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexSmashX3 I'm totally doing it now.

@PUDRETE919

3 жыл бұрын

I wanna buy a project bike just to make it electric, like where are the links to the products used

@AlexSmashX3

3 жыл бұрын

@@vascomarum if all i need is a divers license for a build like this, then im for it too. I wonder what the insurance would be for this?

@FortNine

3 жыл бұрын

Highly recommend it. The 1970s project bike is a never-ending game of whack-a-mole... it usually takes a professional to get the thing all working at once. But anyone can rip everything out and install a battery and hub motor. It's oddly satisfying. ~RF9

Looks like you could get about 4x the amount of battery in there if you wanted to. I'd be interested to know what range you get on your electric motorbike

@alexanderhetzel8271

10 ай бұрын

Don't forget that batteries are heavy though and adding weight (and cost) if your range is already sufficient for city riding is kinda useless.

I LOVE your sarcasm peppered throughout!

I cannot describe these F9 vids as anything short of perfection.

@Fee.1

3 жыл бұрын

I can

@sMv-Afjal

3 жыл бұрын

Try f5 to refresh.

@Fee.1

3 жыл бұрын

@@sMv-Afjal you talking to him or me? Guessing it’s him just clarifying. I find them kind lame lately so I’m not about to hit f5 and watch again, more like alt+f4 or control+w or command+Q on Windows, Linux, or Mac respectively

@Kaeresh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fee.1 actually ctrl+w works on PC to close a browser tab as well. Alt+F4 closes the whole browser. Nevertheless, you're entitled to your own opinion. Personally I can just really appreciate the work they put in and wanted to express that. Not trying to change anyone's mind per se.

@sklurgs6747

Жыл бұрын

Great video as always 😊 but i need and love the sound of a roaring petrol engine. Call me an environmental jerk, but i would rather pay trice the price on petrol than ride an electric mc 😊 i ride a v-strom dl 650 XT 2020 with great milage and won't trade the (although perhaps boring sound) with the silence of the electric "engine". Thank you sir for the great video(s) 💪

"Sure, the physics favors urban use; but I'm no physician." #DadJokeGold

Good analysis, spot on and classic example of the Innovators Dilemma…

I always come back to your videos to have fun with the the sarcastic remarks and innuendos 😂

Modifying the tank to be a glove box/storage compartment would be the icing on the cake.

@barklordofthesith2997

2 жыл бұрын

Would be interesting to see one modded to where the 'gas tank' IS the battery box.

@nightarrow7473

2 жыл бұрын

@@barklordofthesith2997 bad idea, due to the high center of gravity of course.

@barklordofthesith2997

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightarrow7473 While i agree that a lower center of gravity = better, i don't think it would make much of a difference as the gas tank when full of gas would weigh more than what the battery does.

@diegodiaz473

2 жыл бұрын

@@barklordofthesith2997 But when the tank is full of gas, it usually has a much heavier engine directly underneath it. This thing is just a steel frame with wheels

@MoeBabaloosh

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually a really good idea 💡 Charging plug at the gas cap, maybe?

Honestly, its cost. If the Zero was more like $6k CAD to compete with many of the small ICE commuter bikes, I would totally buy an EV

@SmallSpoonBrigade

3 жыл бұрын

There's that, but there's also electric bikes that did it better. You're not going to go on a decent road trip with an electric motorcycle and in town, you might as well save money and get an electric bike. Most people around here don't even have the ability to charge one at home, but charging an electric bike at home is doable for anybody with a home.

@Zonkotron

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Also used. I can get a used honda which is 100% fantastic and lasts for ever for 1k......

@Gherbert1348

3 жыл бұрын

A good chuck of the mileage on my Cb500x has been commuting, some of the roads I take are 80+kph, so an e-bike is not ideal but could easily be done on a Zero and I would gladly do so! but the cost being double the bike I already use means it makes little sense. For an affordable price for what they offer in capabilities I would be happy to have an electric motorcycle as a 2nd bike for commuting. But they are all a long way from that price for it to be viable.

@Clearanceman2

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zonkotron Yes, used motorcycles have gone up but they are still very affordable. Plus you can get a brand new Ninja zx6-R for $10000.

@quillmaurer6563

3 жыл бұрын

@@SmallSpoonBrigade This sort of misses a major niche. E-bikes are great for urban commuting, but a large portion of Americans and Canadians are surburban dwellers, having a 30km or so commute requiring maybe not freeway speeds but would want something that could do 100 km/hr. This is the niche nobody's sought to capitalize on, the suburban commuter. So far there's a huge gap between basically a scooter (not enough speed or range) and the super-expensive high-performance offerings (too expensive). I just hope someone will make that before they all just give up on electric motorcycles entirely. With gas at US$3/gallon, I think that could sell super well. Market it to non-motorcyclists, tell them how much money in gas they could save each year - "Pays for itself in six months!" Market it not as a toy but the money-saving ecologically-responsible alternative to a car. Offer package deals to take the MSF course as part of the purchase, maybe gear bundled in as well (making it all much more approachable to non-motorcyclists), "US$4,500 and three days, and you're set to ride!"

Im sold on ebike. I built mine 2 months ago and love it! $800 1500 watts top speed of 37mph and will go 20-50 miles depending on my assistance. I havent bought gas in 2 months!

thought this would be rubbish but was an excellent video... much respect

this guy is a clever cookie. he probably deserves a round from every motorcycle manufacturer

@killer2600

3 жыл бұрын

Clever cookie for what? Anyone watching the ebike market knows it's had big growth. What these cookies have done is the research to give us cold hard data to quantify the growth.

@almulakimaalimalriadiat9068

2 жыл бұрын

motorcycle dealers don't even give him bikes to review.. let alone tours to manufacturers.

@johneric3886

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I agree his humor is great.

Fort Nine is an international treasure, truly one of the most talented content creators to ever walk the earth

@kw2519

2 жыл бұрын

He really takes things to another level

@MrCountrycuz

2 жыл бұрын

I think Quinten Tarantino is his Daddy.

@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid

2 жыл бұрын

Must be Canadian.

@lennartsix6102

2 жыл бұрын

i mean its not just this one guy. the channel is run by a canadian company

@bugglemagnum6213

Жыл бұрын

he's like the scott the woz of automotive youtube

Man, I really like your presentation style and how much thought you put into this video. I wish you weren't exclusively motorcycle focused

Hollow out the bottom of the fuel tank for a 2nd battery and that would have very reasonable range, or at least turn it into a glove box or something useful.

@johnw65

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the entire frame cradle could be used for battery and/or storage. Look at the new Navis. and homemade battery kits are half the cost of commercial batteries.

3:42 "Sure the physics favors urban use, but I'm no physician" Me: *eye twitch*

@ErectileSceptile

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like that was definitely on purpose lol

@ironryomwest

2 жыл бұрын

*wet paint*

@adrianthoroughgood1191

2 жыл бұрын

It was definitely on purpose for Ryan. The question is was it on purpose for the character he was portraying?

Sales pitch: a DIY kit to build your own ev bike for a sensible price

@guyfromoc2003

3 жыл бұрын

They're out there. Typically around $2000-$3000 depending on what you're looking for. QS motors out of china is the big one for overseas and price / performance.

@pistonburner6448

3 жыл бұрын

Link is literally in the description. But flawed: I refuse to buy Chinese (for obvious reasons as well as safety. I will not store or charge a Chinese battery in my home!) and all proper stuff that is reliable, safe and not made with slave labor is too expensive. I'd rather work on a CNG motorcycle or one that runs on E85

@insightinsight7818

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone at IKEA : write this down! WRITE THIS DOWN!!!

@etch3130

3 жыл бұрын

@@pistonburner6448 "I will not store or charege a chinese battery in my home" I guarantee you already have multiple. Mobile phones, or if you dont have one of them a cordless home phone will use chinese batteries.

@oceanman7868

3 жыл бұрын

@@professorfrog7181 he isn't wall wrong about the battery (not sure about this one), if its in a diy kit you probrably want a affordable diy kit because otherwise you probrably wouldn't do it diy. And cheap batterys are more dangerous

1:04 I own a Zero DS! It's perfect for a work commute with *plenty* of power (59hp peak) and a running cost of about £52 (63 USD) per year. It's price tag (~£8k) and range are really the only downsides to it. It's limited range (of about 120 miles) means I can't consider going on road trips as, without the charger accessory, it needs up to a 9 hour break to charge up. And the power bank accessory only adds about 20 miles. No charge point needed though, it's just a UK mains to IEC cable and the charger is built in... not always a good thing, I've already had one charging circuit break and had it replaced under warranty - for which my bike was out of commission for several months. But I could theoretically park outside a friends house and charge it on an extension cable, and throw them a couple bucks for the electric. It sounds like a UFO, so that's cool too.

Compound the great points made in this video with the fact that in most of Europe a motorcycle, electric or not, requires a whole bunch of expensive training and insurance, where a bicycle requires nothing. The performance difference between a low end e-motorbike, and a high end e-bicycle is minimal to nothing especially when considering the limitations of city traffic.

North American companies fail to launch a small cheaper electric commuter bike *Ryan in Thanos voice: Fine I’ll do it myself

@observingrogue7652

3 жыл бұрын

Anyone can. Benjamin Nelson on KZread, has a playlist on how to build an electric motorcycle. You can start with cheap parts first, like a basic controller, lead-batteries, and a cheap motor, then later upgrade to Lithium batteries, a liquid-cooled motor with radiator & pump, and a fully tunable controller with Brake-Regeneration.

@observingrogue7652

3 жыл бұрын

There are other videos about how to make an electric motorcycle, by converting a gas one. And vids of bikes people made, to inspire you.

@iz723

3 жыл бұрын

Aren't they Japanese companies tho?

@THESLlCK

3 жыл бұрын

who really wants them when you can get an E-bike for less?

@observingrogue7652

3 жыл бұрын

@@THESLlCK I am above & beyond sick of pedaling. I hate the limits of the human body. I want pegs or floorboards, and knee groves my legs can hold onto. I want a effing motorcycle. I'm sick of being poor, I'm sick of degenerates & bullies sabotaging me. I hate NYC. I'm trusting no one, staying away low-quality people, and just focusing on earning money, and leaving this garbage city.

The other day I seen someone sitting at a traffic light, wearing full riding gear and standing on a electric unicycle. I thought he was just weird but after looking into the electric unicycles and finding out they can hit speeds of 60mph, I now want one. Things are crazy.

@jalderink

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame those weren't invented back in Evil Knievel's day, right? Seems like something only someone w/a deathwish would truly appreciate lol

@guard13007

2 жыл бұрын

FortNine has another video about how people are getting seriously hurt on these because they don't wear gear - they think of it like a bicycle, but it's more like a motorcycle.

@bigimskiweisenheimer8325

2 жыл бұрын

Anything that moves faster than you can run needs a helmet while riding.

@pauljs75

2 жыл бұрын

As fun as those may seem, just hope you never run into a panic braking situation. At least with 2 wheels, dumping it tends to be an option rather than a given.

@gwentarinokripperinolkjdsf683

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah i knew a commuter who road one, could take it on the train to seattle aswell

Earned a sub, too damn good(and actually the only Canadian channel in my list)

Lifetime biker here, Gas Vs Electricity... E-Cycles Are Too Expensive, Too slow, No Range. But, Sondors Metacycle proves it's getting better! $6,000 = 80mph and 80mi range (130kph and 130km range) What if, Instead of facing long charging times, we had a standardized battery E-Pack, like 6 or 8 stacked "D" cells that are used by all electric bikes and available at E-stations for exchange. E-bikes and E-motorcycles using the same E-Packs! Where an E-bike uses 1 or 2 while an E motorcycle may use 10. These E-Packs drop into housings sized to each vehicle's energy needs. The "Station" has charging facility for 1000 E-Packs that can be installed in any 2 wheeled vehicle in minutes....

Hit the nail on the head! For condo and apartment dwellers, there's no place to plug in at night. And that's the main dwelling of your typical urbanites.

@cy-one

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. While I do like the low rumble of the Triumph Speedmaster that I've been oogling for a few months now, in the end it comes down to feasibility. I can refuel the Speedmaster. I couldn't recharge anything else than an e-bicycle with a battery that can be taken out of the frame.

@rjgallman4916

3 жыл бұрын

Niu has a detachable battery you can bring in office, coffee shop or condo charging. :)))

@cy-one

3 жыл бұрын

@@FortNine While I think they're still a bit too pricey, and in case of "non-urban" bikes still lack range... Yeah. The charging infrastructure just isn't there.

@cy-one

3 жыл бұрын

@@rjgallman4916 I actually asked my boss about charging my (at that point hypothetical, never bought it) ebike-battery in the office. He wasn't a fan.

@dv9239

3 жыл бұрын

Thats where portable batteries come in

I just stumbled upon this channel, I can’t believe i found a younger version of technology connections

@rennypd6434

2 жыл бұрын

Just imagine if they make a collab LMAO

@xymaryai8283

2 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHAHA

@jadefalcon001

2 жыл бұрын

@@rennypd6434 I think it'd cause some kind of tear in reality from thoroughness, wit, and production values.

@SteveAkaDarktimes

2 жыл бұрын

you just sold me this channel.

@piuthemagicman

2 жыл бұрын

I think they're pretty much the same age, lol. That age being max 30

I live in a rather small village in Spain. I bought a Piaggio active one and it is great for short trips around town. It averages around 60km range and with a 90% charge will go 70kmh on flat ground. It is convenient as the battery is easily removable and can be charged in my apartment. The downsides are it has horrible suspension, limited under seat storage and my local dealer refuses to service it.

Nicely put 👍✔️

I bought my five year old daughter a Razor electric “dirt bike” to ride around the cul de sac. It taught her balance and throttle control tool. Bought her a bigger one when she grew taller. She absolutely loves it. If those things were available when I was a kid, I would have never gotten off it except for a daily recharge.

@DivergentDroid

3 жыл бұрын

The recharge, small range, and lack of power is why I graduated from my 38mph 48v 1000w ebike of 11 years to a 150cc scooter.

If you chopped the top of the tank and reattached it with small hinges and a lock you could use that space as small storage (once again a useful addition for an accurate target market of an office worker).

@TomFoolery9001

Жыл бұрын

Or move the power regulator into the fuel tank and put a storage compartment where the engine was.

@shahtayyib

Жыл бұрын

@@TomFoolery9001 this guy gets it!

@rquaidpro

Жыл бұрын

I knew this comment would be here.

The other thing is as a person who does not ride motorcycles, but has been tempted to get started. These things are too quiet, a huge safety benefit of a lot of motorcycles is how loud and obnoxious they are. A superbike or a harley is always going to let you know it's there even if you can't see it, but an e-motorcycle is so quiet they can sneak up on you and that's a negative in my book for safety. I used to dislike obnoxiously loud harleys for the longest time until a guy who actually rides one said to me. "Loud pipes save lives." And i couldn't agree more, especially here in california where lane splitting is legal.

Great video, Thanks! My prob is range, speed, cost and longevity vs gas engines. Zero point energy is the only way elec vehicles will win, ie, IF the ICC ever releases that technology... The elec grid at this time can't handle summer air conditioning. What happens when everyone starts charging EV's?

i had brammo empulse, it drove ok. parts were near impossible to find..and last year it burned down whilst charching....so back to dinojuice.

If electric motorcycles feasibly only work in urban environments (for now)...might as well just buy an electric bicycle

@neilbufton2926

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's what's happening

@jesustyronechrist2330

3 жыл бұрын

Or a e-scooter. Hell, if you want some adrenaline, even an EUC

@DrBernon

3 жыл бұрын

@@zUJ7EjVD Yes. With the e-bicycle limitations, it is best to get a scooter. And you see that in big cities. People drive e-scooters, and the amount of electric bikes is rising superfast. But is harder to see an electric bicycle. I actually see more e-bicycles outside the city. People use them for what they were intended. To help someone do those long cycling rides that their physical condition would not allow them to do in a regular bike.

@thomas316

3 жыл бұрын

Which is what kids do. Then they upgrade the motor and battery pack...suddenly you have the perfect, if slightly illegal, way to get around town. 😉

@HavasiP

3 жыл бұрын

Bought an e-scooter for my commute. Gets me there about the same time as a car if it's rush hour and I paid about 450 USD for it. Carry it indoors and charge it through the wall socket. In my garage, which has no electricity, is a combustion engine motorcycle for entertainment. Why on earth would I buy an electric motorcycle?

Excellent video. Humorous. Educational. Perfect

“All from China, and since we’re dealing directly with the factory, the children offered” Sir, that was absolutely comedy gold. I absolutely lost it 😂 This guy is the American Jeremy Clarkson

@rocosuavez

2 жыл бұрын

I think he is Canadian unless you mean America the continent

@palco22

2 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Clarkson is a British conceited egocentric narcissist ! Ryan is an intelligent unassuming, down-to-earth, informative (In the world of motorcycles) and a Canadian which has nothing to do with Americans.

@lasagna5934

2 жыл бұрын

@@palco22 what British hurt yoy

@palco22

2 жыл бұрын

@@lasagna5934 I understand you completely, It is a shame that Clarkson is British and Gordon Ramsay (another low life) is unfortunately, also British but *ssholes come in a wide variety of nationalities. Which one are you ?

@lasagna5934

2 жыл бұрын

@@palco22 one of the british colonies lol

Just wanna pop on in and say something you have probably heard before, the production quality of your videos are some of the best I've seen especially for KZread.

I'm a first time watcher, Where did you record this the background is beautiful

@Andruh999

3 ай бұрын

{0:00-0:42} Squamish, BC (south of Whistler, north of Vancouver.) {1:13-1:48, 2:21-2:40} Cypress Lookout, Cypress Bowl Rd., West Vancouver. {8:09-end} Cypress Mountain Resort Parking Lot, West Vancouver. The two-lane back road at various other points I haven't been able to pin down.

Today I'm going to run some errands around town and maybe hit a drive through on the way home. Something like this would be awesome to do it on.

It’s actually crazy how uneconomically expensive EV-motorcycles are, for the price of most zero’s you can get a nice sports bike, dirt bike and a cafe.. oh yeah and your not restricted to your neighborhood

@jeroberkley8852

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly the problem I keep running into as well. I COULD save up and go for a Zero (if I wanted one in the first place), or I could go and get a nice naked bike, a cruiser and some pretty old timer. That's not even a decision.

These are straight facts. i went into the industry trying to build an e motorcycle with a 100 amp battery but nobody wants it, so I started building moped/ cafe style electric bikes that can have modular batteries/motors added by the buyer at their own discretion if they wanted to add some spice to their builds. You have to cover a wide range of interests with one bike model, you can't expect to win out everyone in that 0.04% category with a flashy 1 ton bike

@Matanumi

Жыл бұрын

no one wants to speed the extra money and training on insurance and other things,

@brentwalker3300

Жыл бұрын

I spent a couple months in Beijing and electric bikes of one design or another are ubiquitous. It is baffling to me why, in the age of CAD and better batteries/motors, that we can't design a sleek, practical, high-performance e-bike in the US. The market and tech are there, so what gives? Oh, and the majority of the e-bikes in Beijing were very ugly. They look like those old archaic lawn mower engine-powered mini bikes, only larger and retrofitted to electric components. Atrociously functional.

@Timbodacious

Жыл бұрын

@@brentwalker3300 the market is mostly with simple ebikes. motorcycles fall off in interest when people realize they can't lift if off the ground if they fall off due to battery weight lol. Chinese design companies just poop out what they think americans will be interested in due to a handfull of popular brands at the best bang for their buck, i don't blame them. I design from the usa but I know everything will have to come from china to make a profit so I also have to use semi generic hub motors and components.

@brentwalker3300

Жыл бұрын

@@Timbodacious Interesting. Thanks for the reply. Is using a hub motor really the best topology? I haven't looked into e-bike tech much but I would think there is a better approach. Also, given the higher efficiency due to lower weight per occupant, I would think that e-bikes would be able to provide sufficient range/speed for them to be really competitive as a daily commuter. Also, placing the batteries low provides good low center of gravity and stability.

@Timbodacious

Жыл бұрын

@@brentwalker3300 hub motors are best bang for your buck and good for bikes that are just for cruising. hub drives leave a bit more room for batteries in a bike also.mid drives are best for trails and hilly locations but with bicycle chains anything over 2kw starts to eat gears and chains. Range is the problem that plagues ebikes and motorcycles. at low speeds they can be a great value to invest in but at freeway speeds you're only getting a 60 mile round trip on average with most brands

"since we're dealing with the factory, the children offered to build the motor axle..." I'M DEAD!!!

Creative and informative review. Would appreciate your comments on the Verge out of Finland.

I never thought I'd be coming to a motorcycle informative video to get the wit, humor, and sarcasm I love. You clearly have a great knack for sharing your passion for bikes, yet in a way that entertains. Hell even those wacko's who don't care about motorcycles enjoy your stuff (just ask my buddies who are often forced to sit through my video choices when chilling with me)! Keep up the good work, always look forward to your vids.

@Bigtexbbq

3 жыл бұрын

Ryan is excellent

@PeterKoperdan

2 жыл бұрын

You force your buddies to watch videos about topics they are not interested in? Jesus..

@yeahright9001

2 жыл бұрын

@@PeterKoperdan Hey, if they are still sticking around when I decide to watch some KZread vids then that's on them! They know where the door is, lol. Point is they don't even ride and like his vids

@PeterKoperdan

2 жыл бұрын

@@yeahright9001 Fair enough ;-)

Love the touch of the old screensaver at 4:20. Well thought

@dresdonfury

3 жыл бұрын

Pipes!

@Vegesaurus7

3 жыл бұрын

Yes love these little details. And on a Mac. Good one.

Absolutely wonderful. The only thing I would have done would be to place the control box inside the old gas tank so that it was unseen. But I'm sure it would probably over heat in there. Understandable. Maybe if it was Black? Other than that I wish I had one.

The reason they don't sell is that they're quiet. In my experience, riders seem to make it their goal to deafen all pedestrians within 3 blocks.

I'm a city girl. I have myself an Eagle E-motorcycle Made in Korea. It's a motorcycle just retrofitted with electric engine and wiring. It even has a gas tank. Cost 3000. Goes up to 55 kilometers an hour. And the landlord allows me to bring it on the elevator twice a year for winter storage. I love it. Booting around town on it is some of the most fun I've ever had. But I have never driven any other motorcycle so no basis of comparison.

@BeefIngot

2 жыл бұрын

I found the statement about the landlord allowing you so frustrating. what a shit world we live in where adults needing permission to do basic things is increasingly becoming the standard. landlords are parasites. Without them, and with reasonable zoning laws, purchasing would be affordable.

@steveflinn6

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeefIngot Spoken like a man who does not pay to maintain an elevator....

@BeefIngot

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveflinn6Oh yea dude. I feel real empathetic about some dude raking in profits from other people's sufferings having to pay a grand every few years to have a next to maintainance free elevator looked at... Let's just ignore the fact that collectively people are paying far in access of any of their costs _and_ don't get any equity in return The tone deaf things some people say

@DD-ne3rl

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeefIngot Hello, bringing a motorcycle into the building and into the elevator should never be a « basic things » ever… My point of view 😉

@stagiestpizza

2 жыл бұрын

@@BeefIngot use the stairs then nerd