"I want full plate" "Ok but you won't be able to fly" "Ok... I want to fly" "You can't, you have full plate" *Shocked pikachu face*

As someone who is lawful good like a paladin even if you “detect evil” and find someone evil aligned you shouldn’t attack them. Especially if they aren’t doing anything evil at the time. If anything you can keep a watchful eye and maybe warn them. You should actively seek the good in others and help change their ways.

@DnDDoge

2 жыл бұрын

Now that's how you play a paladin

@michaelcohen8259

Жыл бұрын

That's not even how Detect Evil works. Even in AD&D ("1e"), all that spell or ability did was sense the presence of evil entities, such as devils or demons. Several "Sage Advice" articles confirmed that it would not work on a person who was of evil alignment (that's when "Know Alignment" was a thing.) It WOULD work on, say, a Warlock whose patron is a devil, but it would not show that the WARLOCK is evil, only that the Warlock has evil on her or him in some way.

@gethriel

17 күн бұрын

Be Colossus: you too can be big hero!

Hard to imagine why such a constructive and cooperative player was kicked. Truly baffling.

Yup. Had a player who was brand new in an Edge of the Empire game. He was starting to loot a body when the cantina owner asked him to leave. Player shot the cantina owner. Cut to a few sessions later when he finds out he is wanted for murder. He then realized that there are consequences for your actions, and didn't go full murder hobo again.

If I was GMing that game, I would've had one of the bandits' loot be the same dagger.

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

It's a dagger of returning, it can not get into the situation of being taken over to a rock and smashed. It literally teleports back to the attuned user

I was in a game at a convention, and we had this guy who wasn’t even in the game, but he kept yelling at us to kill every noble we met. We also had a player who… well, the module we were playing was a murder mystery, and as soon as we found the body, this player says “I search the body!” The DM looks at him for a second. “You want to look for evidence?” The player shakes his head. “I wanna look for magic items!” The murder victim was a miller. A guy who made flour for a living. He had no reason to have magic items on him. The DM just told him he didn’t find anything and hurried us along, but things still weren’t good. When we interrogated the suspects, the DM just read out the module text for us, including whatever secret each suspect was hiding. When we found the murderer, we… ran out of time. As I already mentioned, this was at a convention, so if we didn’t beat the adventure within our time slot, we were out of luck. The DM described how the murderer revealed their true monstrous form and started summoning devils, then told us we didn’t have time to do the encounter and just said we won. That was the absolute most disappointing D&D session I’ve ever played in.

Six looked at his party and decided they were the enemy. Woooow. Way to miss the point of D&D

Sounds like two problem players that get their kicks by ruining the fun for others. Kudos to the absolute balls on Six with asking for a ride home though.

@PancakemonsterFO4

2 жыл бұрын

More like a well earned toss into a container in the alley

Had a friend while not murderhobo he was a tad... eccentric. He was playing his character as wanting to devise schemes to make profit ie trying to think of how to turn residue/plants into drugs or such. He's definitely mellowed out some with playing in other games since the first one though

I would've retconned Six's little sunder trick just to wipe the s**t eating grin off his face...and then kick him. Rogue shouldn't have to suffer because of a badly made grudge character.

@rainond.cooper2971

2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. The DM should've said "No... You're out, we're retconning this part of the encounter"

@rb98769

Жыл бұрын

The DM probably did that to be honest. Seems to be the most sensible thing to do.

@Mark73

Жыл бұрын

@@rb98769 It would have been the sensible thing to do, it's what any decent DM would have done. But it stayed broken until they were able to get it fixed. I found the post on Reddit and the person who posted it said that's what happened.

@rb98769

Жыл бұрын

@@Mark73 I hope it didn't take them long to get it fixed, rogue was ultimately punished for meta/ooc BS. A lot of DMs have this mentality that the game can't be touched in any way even for the sake of fun, I'm personally not big on that. I get that it kind of makes the game seem more fair and it makes the DM appear less biased to others, it's something I would probably appreciate more had I just had a bunch of awful experiences with terrible DMs, but it really detracted from the experience in this case. I mean, I don't even like retcons much personally, but they definitely have a place in ridiculous situations like this. The grudge character should never even have existed in the first place.

@juliengravier3917

Жыл бұрын

Honestly a recton shouldn't even have been necessary : the moment that guy said he was going for the rogue, agaisnt the DM's instructions of making a character that would work with the party, DM should have told him to pack his things and leave.

In both these stories, we see players who don't understand that TTRPGs are a collaborative experience, one where you can't just do whatever you like and expect to get away with it consequence free. If you decide to make an ultraviolent murderhobo, or a fanatical zealot, or a pyromaniac child, don't be surprised if other players are not as amused by your antics as you are, and definitely don't expect them to allow you to continue playing with them afterwards.

Moral of the second story: "Some kids just want to watch the game burn."

Its amazing, detect evil, finds evil, and decides directly "its judgement time", that kinda breaks the aspect of being good itself, if your intent is to kill evils instead of at least giving them a chance to change their ways. But yeah the audacity lf asking for a ride home is just stupendous.

I'll never understand players that immediately try to be against the party. Wanting to be a mischief maker, or even a contrarian, stuff like that I can understand. But just immediately antagonizing the party is just absurd. I haven't really had it happen in a game I've run outside of a player asking via note to be the villain out of nowhere.

@r.alexandercorbitt1554

Жыл бұрын

Nice Seija pfp

@rb98769

Жыл бұрын

They have this video gamey logic in which they have a guaranteed spot in the party even if they attack or steal from other players. Also some GMs run away from any sort of conflict resolution and let this sort of behavior roll, even though it makes zero in-character sense that the group wouldn't get rid of the problem character.

First Story: Its stories like this that make me wonder why I rode the short bus. I would have been about 14, 15 at this time, in special ed, and a couple years away from getting a proper diagnosis for Autism. And somehow, I was then and now more socially aware of my surroundings than 6. He makes a character that was told he can’t move around in armor in the heaviest set they have. He makes a paladin that is the definition of lawful stupid, good stupid, and a fanatic. And then he makes a third character in all the ways he was told not to just so he could continue being a jerk. Then he has the gall to ask for a ride home. Second story: I think there are areas where boundaries can be pushed, but this is the definition of chaotic stupid. This guy makes a kid that is a psycho, and ignores the rules of being allowed to play at the guy’s house. Most of the that guys on my tables are either mild cases that were fixed with a warning, and at least one time worried I was the very that guy.

"Guess what he tried to do: Me: get a grappling hook and try to be batman?

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

You did not get your candy

i really like it when a evil aligned character is really likeable

The DM for the party that Six was in: "lol look what i let this problem player do and didn't stop even though I could have."

This sounds like the backstory of a plyer I had with me for one session. He told me before play that he had played a paladin in an evil party and got booted from the group. In my group he decided to play an elven noble who refused to speak anything but elven and kept insulting the elven princess he was supposed to serve. Booted him out after his first and only session. His character was promoted to a recurring villain.

This is like a better version of “Raladin the Paladin”

* Me who wants to try DnD, but cant find any adult ran games so just has to listen to others play and horror stories* Yeah... Im in a game or two.. haha.

probably one of my favorite paladins I ever played in a game with made a very specific point of never pointing detect evil at any of the evil PCs in the party. it became a running joke and he was absolutely hilarious and creative with how he avoided it. I played this absolutely vicious half Drow assassin, and he often referred to as a "lovely woman."

Six had it all planned out Unfortunately, his plan involved hoping the DM would forget everything he couldn't do.

I like how Wiz-ass asking if he can deal *Arcane* damage using a wooden box

@catandrobbyflores

2 жыл бұрын

I mean if it was Pandora's box maybe.

Me as the DM letting all this roll while me and my party know we're just gonna reload and negate everything he did because I'm more petty than him.

The DM does not get to ignore problem players

Sadly yes I can say i was in a game where my DM did have some out of game resentment for one of the players and was constantly picking on this player in game with his npc's. This person had never played before and I being the veteran player of the group at the time refused to let that happen. Any npc's that were out of turn my fighter and wizard (he let me play 2 characters of vastly opposite personalities) would interject their own opinions and shut them down. Eventually I got him to knock his sh*t off and made the game a good experience for the first time player. When I started my first game (which was encouraged for me to do by that same player wanting to know what I could do behind the dm screen) he had so much fun he hated when sessions would end or if I needed an extra week off for a break. After that though I've thankfully been blessed with no out-of-game discrepancies in player character actions.

"But...It's what my character would do!"

That last DM is way too lenient! Should've got rid of them after the attempted arson.

Currently, out GM is making a Spacers Cowboy game using the old Marvel Champions system. It's going good. So story 1, dude clearly forgot actions have consequences and then had the gall to ask for a ride home. My GM would have just waited till game is over to give him a ride home. Story 2, kid clearly has issues.

I hope they retconned the dagger break.

@TrackerRoo

2 жыл бұрын

I would have as a fuck you to the problem player. Not only was he kicked but all his antics were removed from the game. Least that's how I'd have done it.

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

It's a dagger of returning. "Upon calling back your 'destroyed' dagger, all pieces realign themselves during its teleportation"

That first story, I would have retconned that encounter while he was still present and restored the rogues dagger. 😏

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

Oh no you snapped the decoy dagger Or It returned to the Rogue before it's snapped

you see master Doge some people aren't looking for anything locally some people just wanna watch the world burn

I thought "Six" standed for the number of characters he would make. I'm glad he didn't go this far lol

Anthro bat gladiator = Shrieking Sounds

Heh listening to this one right after the one with the Dragonborn whose harem was a lie…who was *also* constantly attacking or antagonizing other players, then *baffled* that people got upset.

On the topic of grudges, my spouse has an undying hatred for chickens. Doesn’t trust them, doesn’t like them, believes them to be, in real life, chaotic evil. I have never seen a worse grudge carry over to the game. We just started their first game, and our first quest is to fetch ingredients for a chef, from a farm. Their character kicked a chicken (probably because they would never in real life), and the dm rained rooster Armageddon down on us

Wait how the hell did a barbarian sunder a +5 magic dagger? That's effectively an artefact! That's the DMs fault for not considering how difficult to destroy incredibly powerful magic items are!

"You won't be able to fly in plate mail." "Don't worry about that, I have a plan." (Plan was to pretend he didn't hear that) DM's, do NOT allow PvP unless all characters involved agree to it each time. OP: "But there's an gladiatorial arena in my world!" Yes, and when characters sign up to enter it, they're agreeing to it. Your hands aren't tied, you can just say "no, that doesn't happen." Okay after the next story to DM's not know that they can just stop the game, take it out of character and go "what the fuck, dude?" Are they unaware that they have the ability to do that?

I don't care if PvP was allowed because of a gladiator setting. When the first thing he does when you introduce his THIRD character after his last two were massive problems is attack a party member, you kick his ass out of the group. It's ENTIRELY the DMs fault. He better have retconned that sunder, if not the entire fight.

Thank you, Doge, for always uploading quality content!!!

People never got the idea of alignment - thats why many people hate it nowadays

The party with 'six' seems like a bunch of absolute bell-ends, tbh, I don't blame him.

great thumbnail choice bro xD

The noble being evil but hiring the party to protect the village makes sense. Probably Lawful Evil - and Lawful Evil people protect their group, or village. I played a Lawful Evil fighter / magic user once. People had trouble understanding how I could be so nice to my peasants. I built schools, orphanages, roads, etc.,. All of which made my people prosper, and the orphans grew up educated to love their ruler - me. Paladins couldn't understand how my people could pray for their ruler and hope she would be saved - because obviously, she was seemingly good. I had the most properoues county in the game.

I hope that rogue got his +5 back.

We have a joke about the god Ayephkay (AFK) abducting people who don't show up for sessions into genie bottles and puts them back with the party after joining again. She drinks the bottle if the player gets kicked/banned from the table.

AirGear character on your thumbnail I didn't know anybody else remembered it but me

So with Wizzy’s suggestion of pushing a burning create. Here’s what I would rule. 1: You would need to make a strength check(dc 15) 2: pushing the create would take both your action and movement that turn. Additionally, you can only use half your movement speed while pushing. 3: this would be an improvised weapon attack. If you are not proficient, you don’t add your proficiency to the attack roll. 4: this would only do 1d6 bludgeoning and 1d6 fire damage if you do hit. And finally 5: you receive 1d6 fire damage as well. Does all this sound like fair ruling?

I always wanted to play dnd but with stories like these I get nervous to start I also have no one to play dnd with in my small town so it makes things harder to start

There shouldn't be 60 red flags before the DM kicks a player. The DM in the second story has one of the weakest backbone, especially considering this is some random guy and not a friend or family member. No is having fun and and wizzy is being annoying to the other players. That is more than enough to kick him out. The DM should have at least talk to him, let alone kick him out.

Ah that explains the last story: they got into DnD through the poisoned chalice of 4th edition....

Oh boy do I have a story for you, about Teresa the terrible and her OP of OP ness. She is a character that is a reoccurring entrant in our games that one of our roommates uses. So picture a elf woman, prim and dressed in the far eastern royal kimono, trained in the wujin arts of 3 of the 5 elements, and a sorcerer on top of that with some self made spells as a lv 40 character. Now imagine that she is a agent of the Celestial Bureau and agent of Helm, and also a Silver Dragon who has a shape shift spell that allows all her dragon stats in elf form. Now every time we include her in a campaign, we make her reset to lv 1 by divine intervention because the new sphere she enters causes chaos upon her entry, but still has her gear and dragon abilities. The character is also notorious for imposing her will on others by force or fear and constantly destroying items or enchantments because they have a evil aura, even if they might be a help later in the story. She has forced relationships between NPC and PC characters, caused turmoil in villages by turning a inn into a strip club on Saturday to increase revenue for the inn, and also karaoke night in the same inn, cause a collapse of a pocket dimension with us barely able to get out in time. She has also cause a tpk of the party before a one turn rewind for a backfired snowball explosion (she had spells that she could change to ice spells) and managed to alter reality in 3 spheres. So she is the magical dragon equivalent to a trainwreck waiting to happen. An example, we were running Rise of the Runelords, (Pathfinder campaign) and we cleared this ruin of cultists and find a amulet that could be helpful later, it had a low evil aura but no curses or negative effects attached to the necklace, takes one look at the item and destroyed it outright. Another time, a PC was opening up about their backstory and mentioned about an ex girlfriend, welp let's just open up a portal after scying her location and pull her over here, too bad she's part of the assassin's guild and wanted the PC dead for leaving her at the alter. (They reconnect afterwards and work things out, just so you know) She made half the party obsolete by killing 95% of the enemies and loot would end up missing only to show up in her horde in a bag of holding. And this is all from only one campaign mind you. There's more if you want to know.

OP of the last story: "I don't allow pvp." You had an easy out, but no, fighting between players is wrong

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

He was clearly not among the smartest and too busy counting red flags instead of just ending the drama itself.

"Keep in mind, this is supposed to be a child." DW, they're VERY childish. I don't know where these people COME from, the worst I've seen in my campaigns is a player being chronically late to every session.

The moral of the second story is be much firmer with your players and don't let them stick around if they're going chaotic-stupid. Also avoid child-characters unless it's a game where everyone is young. I hear so many bad stories from Westmarches games. That place seems to spawn the dodgy ones.

Okay the guys first character remind me of one of my own. I had aarocbotic rouge werebat. And one of the thing I went over with the dm is to have amore and cloths made in a way to allow my size change and the memebrain of my wings. Basicly my amote could be unbuckled on the sides to allow room but still be connect by a sort of harness like set so the amor stayed on when I transform and fly. Also to note my amore was just light leather armor and mainly had it on my chest.

I'm sure the Rogue got his dagger back. Heh heh heh. No GM would punish the player over that. But yeah, there was this one guy in a Star Wars D20 campaign, back in college. He belongs here in spades. First of all, very dumb. Not just socially, but in general. It started with the guy wanting to play an Ewok. Personal opinions that *everybody* might have of Ewoks being in an RPG campaign aside, it wasn't very realistic an idea and he couldn't think of a good enough BS story to cover it. So, that was a nope. He ended up playing what I assume to be a bounty hunter with a jetpack. To be clear about our campaign, some of us had awakened to Force powers while others would be blasting the heck out of things more. Our GM was a master, and he knew how to make a good story, AND he was funny. He was *so good,* in fact, that he managed to put up with this guy for a while. Of course, that didn't stop *the players* from being irritated by the guy in-character...and messing around with him. How so? Well, for instance, when we were in a maze where a dangerous killer beast was stalking us by leaping from wall-top to wall-top after us, the great dingus wanted to capture the thing and make it a pet. We killed it. When he was trying to get a light saber for himself (He didn't have powers, so he presumably wanted to Boba Fett his way around it.), we didn't tell 'im that the one he'd actually found was Force-activated and wouldn't work for him at all. Oh, and I sabotaged his jetpack so only one of the engines would fire. That was a good one. You have to understand, this was a campaign being run like we were in the show, Firefly. This kind of thing wasn't even out of bounds. PVP *was,* and out GM made sure that That Guy didn't get to do it. Finally, there was some culminating point where the character was intolerable, and our Force-using archaeologist activated the ancient Light Saber in the guy's pocket, impaling and killing him, as he'd been wounded enough to be made quite dead and out of the campaign. Afterwhich, he was given the Lecture of Doom he deserved. That RP ended well because - as I said - our GM was a master. But this tale is not over... Different group, different cool GM, and look who strolls through the door! This time, he was playing a Wookie, and being even dumber than he had been in the last campaign. What happened was...in a town full of Imperial Storm Troopers where they were on the lookout for us...this mental midget decides to *rob a store.* And...it's actually worse than you think. We'd spent time sneaking around the place. I'd gotten the uniform of a guard after killing apparently the most honest-working man in all the Empire, who was dedicated and kind to all his peers, a decent family man, and it was even his BIRTHDAY. I strolled into an Imperial bar and proceeded to get such a hilarious guilt-tripping, and then walked off into the men's room so that everybody would drop their guard, knowing that their salt-of-the-earth comrade was around. This allowed our doctor to kill the lot of them in the bar with a thermal detonator and close the place down. THAT was not the bad part. That was the part where we had been sneaky, careful, ingenious, and *funny* in order to secure what was a temporary safehouse to get drunk in. *Wookie-brain* had THEN decided to rob a nearby store, which was owned by a non-Imperial person who did not understand Wookeese and fled the store to go get help. The player did not seem to get the clue that he was in trouble as he proceeded to rob said store and wander about. (He *also* didn't know that I'd previously shaved the words 'KICK ME' in Mon Cal speech in the fur on the back of his head.) He was alone. In fact, he wasn't too far from our bar of relative safety. Guess what he didn't do, and guess what WE didn't do. He didn't go hide out anywhere, and when the nearest patrol answering to reports of a dangerous Wookie started shooting at him, we didn't help. My character was a ship thief. The guy who bombed the troopers was a disgruntled ex-Imperial scientist. We had other people who were equally wanted and weren't willing to care about some Wookie who was Too Dumb To Live. I don't know where this guy is now, but I'm VERY sure he's never gotten through an RP with anyone in one piece.

I freely admit I wouldn't have nearly this much patience with a problem player like the last one, who so clearly just wants to derail the campaign. The first couple of times would of seen a polite talking to about taking it seriously and not being disruptive, it would not of reached seven before they where asked to leave the game.

I'm pretty sure a +5 dagger can't just be sundered on a rock...

Awww a talking doggo

Its kinda funny being as I literally made an evil barbarian who hates magic for a campaign with my fiance who always plays lawful good elf ranger heavily reliant on magic and magical items and we get along famously usually with her scolding disciplining and sometimes baby sitting the massive bloodthirsty barbarian. The whole idea being she slowly teaches him morality and complex things such as not all magic is evil. While he teaches her that not all bad guys are irredeemable as he is essentially a monster who hunts monsters. An evil that fights evil.... lots of fun rp such as when she cast water walking on the party and they walk across a bunyip mating pool while my barb is described as "water flailing" his way across causing him first in line and fastest to be the last to reach the other side due to having a mini breakdown over the fact that water is now solid but not frozen

Not sure if it was just because he was that oblivious and tone deaf to the desires of other people at the table, or if it was a slowly building pettiness towards me. I had a PF1e DM who I thought was pretty good. He would tell me stories of games he was in though, which collapsed, so I offered him a spot at the table I was making for Icewind Dale (5e game). His expectations weren’t met for the game, since we all expected it to be gritty but when 5/6 of the players bounced off eachother well and showed a more light hearted and occasional silly roleplay to the game, he left (after making several rude sexual statements at the start of a couple sessions, or In Character to a Kobold/Reborn Warlock and to a human Barbarian that was actually somewhat a pacifist). Well, I had foolishly shown him a piece of art I won online in Jan of 2021, which was a semi-nsfw piece of my character I was playing under him (I only sjowed it after getting his consent). Well, that plays in a second. He did end uo killing 2 characters I was playing in a newbie game to help him find new players for a full game, and teach the system. Well, full game, without asking me, he used that art I showed him and displayed it to the entire group. Several laughed, some sounded clearly embarrassed. And I believe at least 1 member of that group was, and still is, under 18 (thankfully, it was just Underwear Model level of art but still). A few weeks later, he basically tormented me on a personal side quest of “morality” by having a man instantly go aggressive even though I went into the situation calm and trying to reason with him (cleric of Sarenrae who actually was merciful to undead, I wanted to talk to this man who’d kept his wife alive as a semi-sentient zombie for possibly weeks after her demise). Then, right after when I joined a fight that, without my cleric and a wall of fire spell would have been a TPK of the other 6 players, he used an op item on a Skald with a greataxe and took his time with a sick tone to describe my character’s head coming off. Then used a Homebrew tabke for reincarnation to make me a wheelchair bound merfolk for several in game weeks (a good month OoC) and then magically fixed it when I finished making a replacement character after wanting to retire him. Then instant killed me a few weeks later via magic, and not even a few sessions after went on to almost murder the character 2 sessions after I was revived by the party. I was sick and tired and shiwed him a new pc I was gonna retire to play, after my cleric got a final thing in of giving an ogre npc a chance to work with him on fixing a town the ofre was playing a oart in destroying via floods and such. New pc was a Skinwalker slayer. He was grandson of a werewolf, hence the race. And knowing people don’t like “different” he would rarely shift, which was always subtle things like eyes and teeth. He would have been a local from the area the oarty was in, meeting them after tracking some ogre activity he discovered while hunting. Pretty simple and good, right? Ties into the story loose enough to not be essential, but also enough to have a reason to help the party with everything they would be against, while being the first Ranged character that wasn’t a magic user, and a pseudo-rogue. Dm took one look, and said no because “this adventure has nothing to do with werewolves”. Which were not a huge thing in the backstory, if yall noticed! Then he grabbed that “redeemed” ogre npc, told me to go Inquisitor to the goddess Sarenrae with it, and gave me nothing else but help deciding the gear (which was another melee focused frontliner like 5 of the ither 6 party members). No backsto info on this Named NPC from the module, nothing I could actually use to make the character real and actually having any way to really connect to the oarty. I left a few sessions later. Then a few days ago he rants about the game I run being “he made a gritty realistic paladin with a gritty realistic backstory, and the rest of the party was *honk honk* clowns”. And last night went and described how the pc HE CHOSE FOR ME TO PLAY would have been racially discriminated against and likely attacked and abused on sight the second he walked into the town the oarty is supposed to give a hoot about and defend! Maybe it was just the dm being tone deaf and an idiot who clearly doesn’t see issue with “realism” being racist comments at PCs. Or it could have been he hated that I didn’t make the Icewind Dale adventure as gritty and dark as O could have by accomadatinf to the majority of the party 75% of the time (I was still using some pretty dark stuff, like the bitchered dwarf they came across, who’s head was later found in a cave of yetis, as well as with a legit psychopath serial killer that almost murdered the oarty rogue and dang near got a couple others to 0hp as well, even after the oarty got a surprise round and wiped most of his allies).

Oh yeah. A character accidentally died. I forget how or why, but he ended up blaming the party for it. I truly don't remember, maybe a different PC was being shitty and killed him, maybe we just couldn't saved him. This was like, 10 years ago. What I do remember was his new character showing up and immediately casting fireball on the whole party when we were clumped in a silo. We destroyed that stupid wizard. The DM was way way too lenient and let him make another character and try to kill us all again before we obviously won and at that point he just left.

Does Detect Evil actually detect evil alignment? I thought it just detects evil magic, so the noble must have been a vampire, or something.

@tsifirakiehl4250

2 жыл бұрын

I think it depends on which edition you’re playing.

@nvfury13

2 жыл бұрын

In 1st, 2nd, and 3/3.5 it detects evil aligned creatures, items, or magic.

@2g33ksgamingttv3

Жыл бұрын

In 5e it is wrapped into detect evil and good and detects certain creature types(undead, fiends, celestials, abberations, fey, and elementals). In earlier editions I think it actually detected alignment

The evil alignment warlock in that second story kinda reminds me of my own opinion on alignments. I don't use good or evil. I exchange those with selfless and selfish. They cover similar ground lawful selfless would do whatever it is regardless on what happens to them to uphold the law. Meanwhile a lawful selfish character would uphold the law but care more for their self interests so would try to manipulate it so they get something out of it. It works In my head.

Dm: u cant fly in plate Also dm: heres a +5 magic dagger of returning that also does elemental dmg Same dm: why do u feel like ur underpowered and going against the party???? Dude was salty and acted out of pocket. But i suspect OP isnt a saint either

Depends. Some are trolls, some are natural born sociopaths, some are sociopaths through life experience and etc.

2nd story. Dude, even the antichrist is a child, but still kill it first. 👿👿👿

1 or 2 campaigns sounds like something normal people attempt! our group of 8 rotates dms weekly to keep up with the 5 or so campaigns that were running! (were all good friends. we got lucky and only had to make a few tweaks to how we work things. i wouldnt go out of my way to do this, but i enjoy it. dont recommend it tho)

As someone that has english as his 2nd language. This accurance of "they" instead of he she it is so confusing, espacially in stories. :X

Then it should have been “pvp is allowed in the gladiatorial arena setting”

Red flag #3..... How many red flags do you need before you boot a player?

Good, evil, lawful, all equally dumb if the other side of your alignment is stupid

In the Wizzy story...most of those weren't red flags, they were actual attacks on the game. Why didn't the DM just say "No" when he started to burn down the building? If your rules forbid PVP, then the DM has to be willing to step in and stop players who go off the rails like that.

Oh pettyness and revenge was the name of the game for me for years. Maybe i wrote how 4 toxic people including me make RPG unplayable.

Ok, ngl, in the first story, Six strikes me as a very inexperienced player. Not all of his behavior can be excused, but a good bit of it sounds like he didn't understand the mechanics and also didn't take the game seriously; by that I mean he didn't treat the game like a fun adventure to engage with, but like a video game where if he wanted to, he could act as crazy as he wanted and everybody would just go with it. It also sounds like the party and DM made only a half-hearted attempt to communicate with him. To the DMs credit, he did tell Six he shouldn't create a character that was going to be at odds with the rest of the party, and that barbarian was definitely a character made just to give the party the metaphorical finger. However, I think the DM and the party could have handled his paladin character better. The "all nobles are evil" line seems pretty skeevy to me; I don't know if it was a part of the setting that the vast majority of the nobility were corrupt, amoral and completely self-centered or if this was a group of players and a DM that genuinely believe nobody rich/powerful is a morally upstanding person. The party's warlock also being "evil," yet getting along with everybody really makes me wonder if this was supposed to be an evil/neutral-aligned party and nobody bothered to tell Six, or if they were treating alignment and/or character morals as an afterthought. Either way, when Six made it clear he was going the, shall we say, classic route with his paladin, and that was going to be at odds with both the party and the campaign as a whole, that should have been when the DM or party called a time out to nip things in the bud. They'd already seen that Six was not well-versed in the game with his bat cleric trying to fly in full plate with a negative mod in his strength; instead they seemed to think the best way for him to learn the game was to throw him in the deep end of the D&D pool and see if he swam or drowned.

One time a friend's group lost half it's players so their gm asked if everyone could bring 1 person the group could continue. So my friend asked me and I said yes. The already established paladin of the group's player didn't like me. He was bad at wording stuff. So we are in a shop. Some of us are browsing, some of us are trying to get info, and the paladin gets board and says "I go outside and cast detect evil on the street.(in this edition there was one of 2 ways you could cast it, it was yes or no this object,creature targeting one thing or a I feel the nearest evil in this general direction up to so and so feet) at hearing this I started laughing loudly. The gm asked what was so funny I said "he cast detect evil on the street" the gm looked at me confused so I repeated myself putting emphasis on on the street. I saw the gm got it as a small smirk he exclaimed "you cast detect evil on the cobblestones of the road and you feel no evil presence comming from them. " we laughed except the paladin and thought that was the end of it. The paladin came inside and started attacking me. When he finally landed a hit and was going to smite me the gm made him realize he broke one of the oaths of his diety where he was to protect the innocent not attack the innocent he lost all his levels in paladin we were about level 6 or 7 at the time because he willingly went out of his way to brake his oath. Now this is where the ITA comes in. So he tried to kill himself but the healer kept healing them. So we go to a temple of his deity and the priests say if the innocent one forgives you from their heart you can get your abilities back. My character had s list of everyone who had wronged her and on the top was written revenge list. And the Paladino's name was on it. I said "no I don't forgive you. Infact this seems like you deserve it. But since you already punished yourself I won't need to get revenge." My character then scribbled off their name. So the priests said he would have to a quest for his diety to atone. We all agreed to help. Until it was completed he took up levels in fighter. After we got his powers back thinking he could ohko me due to being allowed the keep the fighter levels tried to attack my character and lost his powers once again. He then left and never came back. And nobody really noticed or cared he was missing

Six: I’ll make a new character 😊 DM (RDJ): Last time on Six screwed the pooch…you do stupid shit even though I told you not to..and now, you deliberately attack a party member *AGAIN*, and once more do the exact dumb shit I told you *not* to do! 😡🤬

@rainond.cooper2971

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like he should've straight up said "No, you're out. You didn't attack the rogue, you didn't break his blade. Hell, you didn't even appear. You're done, leave"

That Six guy was a few electrons short of an atom, wasn’t he? None of his character choices made any sense.

Honestly, Wizzy could be telling the truth about being a veteran DM. If so, this is probably how he allows his own players to behave too. His own games are absolute slapshod affairs where everyone behaves like total maniacs, and he figured other people probably play the same way.

Most people tend not to get that lawful good is not rigid. For example: you see a person stealing for food, a lawful good would ask why this person would steal, then after learning the circumstances try to reach the outcome where the problem can defused and where the can try to change the thief if a nonviolent outcome can be reached, yes stealing is a crime, but not a things are black and white. Most paladin players are more like "oh he is a criminal, off with his head."

@starofjustice1

11 ай бұрын

I did wonder why around 1/3 or so of rpg horror stories seem to involve fanatical paladins.

Bro literally just woke up today with one of my players doxing the other over discord because he told him that his race was literally all tank (it was a homebrew race from nuruto 5e "sinju") I still can't believe it I literally just woke up to it

Personally if I was dm knowing six is just being petty being this anti magic barbarian I would of made it so the dagger was not destroyed or the rogues deity blessed him with another. Something to cancel out six's petty bs even as simple as a time rewind and retcon.

Where did you come from and why have i never seen you despite watching DnD Stories on youtube for 2 Years? No matter subbed better late than never

6 is not only chaotic stupid but stupid stupid

@johngleeman8347

2 жыл бұрын

True stupid. XD

OP #1 Really should have kicked Six after the Paladin incident and not checking his character sheet for the Forsaker? That was asking for trouble. Also "most Nobles are evil" What?

maybe someone can explain me the following (especially the DM's): Why do so many DM's hate it when a player wants to play a chaotically good drow? Wanted to play a Drow Monk, of the Way of Shadows and follower of Eilistree. The answer of my former DM's: No, you would be killed immediately if you made contact But the others are allowed to play Oks, Tieflings, etc. What does everyone have against wanting to play a drow?

@vidmanandrew09

2 жыл бұрын

I think it might be that they think any Drow but Drizzt can’t be heroic. I honestly couldn’t care less, so long as the character built was made with the setting in mind. So long as it makes sense and fit the setting, I couldn’t care. You wanna be a Drow Monk? Okay.

@johngleeman8347

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a referee from the bad old days. Way too many people played CG drow because they wanted to be like Drizzt D. Annoyed some folks and they still haven't let it go all these years later. The referee you are talking to is either a nincompoop or disingenuous. There are easy ways to introduce a drow even in a setting and region where they are considered "kill on sight." It's called a disguise. I salute you for knowing that the overwhelming majority of good drow in the Forgotten Realms setting follow Eilistraee. If you didn't want to wear a disguise in hostile towns, you could have your character wear chains and manacles and pretend to be a prisoner of one of the other players. Because you're a monk, they wouldn't necessarily be at a disadvantage in a fight. Heabutts and axehandle smashes. In short, the referee doesn't want anyone in their game to play a drow character under any circumstances and should have just said so to you rather than make excuses.

NGL, I only clicked this video because I recognized Onigiri from Air Gear in the thumbnail

I will never understand these types of players. For the first story...it still baffles me that Six was surprised when he was kicked from the table despite the DM telling him not to roll up a 3rd character that will be against the party. On the one hand, I can see where Six's character would want to attack a magic user giving their character's background but I would think that the DM would allow for a bit of meta-gaming so Six would know this was the party they were joining and not to just outright attack them. IDK...sounds like someone who just wanted to be an asshole. As for the second story...I can't even begin to remotely wrap my head around a player like Wizzy. They seriously sound like a child who is use to being allowed to do whatever they want without consequence. Like "Oh, this is the individual who might be hiring us for a job? Well, I'm just gonna shove my way into their home and start rummaging through their stuff right in front of them." And then "Oh, this is our employer's business we are being hired to protect? Well I want to burn it down. Oh, the goblins are dead? Okay...I still want to burn the business down." I don't see how the DM put up with Wizzy's bullshit for soo long. After he pulled the first stunt by just barging his way into their potential employer's home and just started rummaging about, I would have had to have said something potentially to him. By the point he first started to burn everything down, I would have had to put my foot down and just told the guy to leave the table. I understand that Session 0 is a way for DMs to get a feel for their players...but after all the shit that Wizzy was pulling, I wouldn't have even allowed them to finish Session 0 without giving them the boot.

Why did it take OP so long to kick out the pyromaniac!?

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

He was busy counting the red flag during a red flag parade

In 3/3.5 you couldn’t Sunder magic weapons…not without a magic weapon of your own. So how did that work? Was it a special class feature of the prestige class?

@d4v3r0y84

2 жыл бұрын

I think his prestige made it so he could sunder them with his hands.

@trillionbones89

Жыл бұрын

It's also a dagger *of returning* How tf does that weapon get in this situation anyway, it can be summoned back instantly. The world does not stand still when one character has the initiative.

Am I the only one who finds the phrase “murder hobo” funny? Just the phrase itself mind you not what it means for a player

And this is why you don’t let pvp be a thing. It just causes to many problems. DM should have stopped the barbarian from the start at that point before wrecking the rogue’s stuff. DM lets this player wreck another player’s stuff and then just tells him to leave, hope he gave the rogue his stuff back cause that’s major bs.

Where do I start? The guy who bullied the group to the point he was not welcome anymore? Oh, how about the guy who didn't like me as a person and turned every game into a pointless OOC politics simulator? Still, the guy who tried to attack my character at one campaign because I wouldn't let him create a god weapon as a dm in my homebrew several campaigns before that would also make a fun example lol.

Now to be fair, 3e paladins WERE garbage and the lore basically required them to be insane murderers who tried to kill random people because the voices in their head told them that person was evil.... but at least it's slightly better than the lore for 3e druids who were encouraged to switch sides as soon as they won and help their enemies in order to "maintain the balance."

@johngleeman8347

2 жыл бұрын

Six's first and third characters were intolerable. The paladin should have been given the chance to retract their poor decision with an explanation that a paladin will not associate with evil persons. Even more important than that though, is their dedication to protect the innocent and combat the greatest evil they can find. Thus he would help the evil noble only because it also helps the people under their authority (refusing any rewards the noble offers the other players). Thereafter they would part company with the other players because the paladin cannot abide having an evil warlock as a long-term ally. Alas I can forgive the referee for not having the patience to go through such a peaceful option step by step, especially after the infuriating bat character had insisted on reducing their speed to five feet and perishing because they can barely move.

Heck yeah I was early to this one

Cool

Lettem fly you jerk.

kinda empty in here