looks like FSD might actually be ready in 60 years! look up the purcell principal.

@itamarperez

2 ай бұрын

Next year

@FSDdriver

Ай бұрын

Next month according to Elon.

does it get messed up because of the rain distorting the image view of the cameras?

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

No, I have driven through heavier rain and the camera has functioned properly. I'm planning on uploading a new video from the same location on a sunny day.

The visuals have been disconnected from FSD a while back. So what's on the screen is not what the car/FSD sees anymore.

I think the issue could be that the map is used for navigation too. So it is visual + map. And on this construction site the map is outdated.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I'd like to know why the map sometimes recognizes the new road on the bridge and other times it doesn't. Visuals always show it.

Thanks for posting this. Any time you go into these bigger channels and say anything remotely negative you're attacked. People claiming this is ready to go autonomously go pick up their kids at school are delusional (and/or stockholders...)

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I hold Tesla stock and want them to succeed. I also live in reality and it’s not ready. Someday it will get there.

@douglashempel8037

2 ай бұрын

@@FSDdriver I have a Model 3 and love it. Also want them to do well and continue the transition to sustainable life. Just wish the hyperbole could be brought under control. I guess the Internet isn't the place to expect that...

Cones...

Thanks for sharing. Oh man, you need to do voiceover work. I felt like I was watching an episode of Big Mouth with Nick Kroll! LOL!

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

This is what it reminded me of. kzread.info5coB2lw1T0U

I don’t understand. Besides the display error was it making other mistakesin driving? I’m really confused by your initial comments about it making mistakes but then during the drive it seems to drive OK. Please verify that it’s only the screen display that is wrong and then it’s striving, without disengagement is just fine.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

This seems to be a screen display issue. Road construction visuals are not appearing when driving. However sometimes they will pop up at once then disappear again.

@chrvids5846

2 ай бұрын

@@FSDdriver so no potential critical issues as implied in the promo screen.

This is why I wear a Jacket with Tesla Aware Rider when I ride my bike and a sticker on my car that says Tesla Aware Driver.

Robotaxis aren't happening anytime soon, are they?

@onsokumaru4663

2 ай бұрын

Nope, give it another 100yrs

@galaxiedance3135

2 ай бұрын

So far no! With these errors, actually very serious errors too! There would be so many accidents happening that USA would then go and just completely ban any company from making Robo Taxies. It would ruin it for everyone! Europe is far more picky with lots of things. if they see drives like this, they'll definitely not allow it there! I wouldn't blame them. Even SUMMON, I wouldn't trust it not running over pedestrians when it's coming to you.

@DavidElCid300

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Very soon. The advances are coming exponentially. Like telephones. Like computers. Like every other technology. But you can stay with the horse and buggy as long a you'd like.

@LordandGodofYouTube

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidElCid300 it's been coming for 5 years. Elon said it would be on the road in 2020. Elon just makes promises that he never keeps because there are enough gullible people who will believe him and pump his stock price up.

@filipeventura7588

2 ай бұрын

@@DavidElCid300 lol very soon, another Elon fanboy, he is selling you tech that might work 20 years down the line and asking you to pay for it today, i would honestly had no issue with this if he said this is not road approved it's alpha integrations that need a lot of work but if you guys stick with us we could get it to work years down the line, he is saying FSD is a reality since 2016!!! wake up

I'm having the same issue with fsd taking turns too fast, majority of the time it's fine but it doesn't know how to slow down for turns.. reminds me of new student drivers.. at best this fsd is a kid learning how to drive.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

The acceleration around corners are pretty quick in my opinion but I also do drive in assertive mode. Not sure how much that plays into it.

Stop panicing, let the car cook.

I use my fsd everyday, multiple errors.

@andrewcastiglia9548

2 ай бұрын

Use it as much as possible training data is training data. These errors make it stronger.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I use it daily as well, my wife uses it in the model Y too. I love it but it does have issues.

Please retest with 12.3.5. 🙏

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

It's to my understanding FSD v12.3.6 is rolling out as of today.

You're such a nervous driver. Lol Also, it keeps telling you that the system is degraded. It's probably why it's being inconsistent.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I am a calm driver, but I often yell at my car. Check out today's video of the same intersection on a sunny day.

It sees it but doesn't see it 😮 what are you even saying

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

Road construction cones and other objects would show in the visuals, but now they don’t in my M3. However I know the car sees them because it will avoid them on turned etc. the other thing is in this video they all magically pop in for a few seconds than disappear again.

@petersmangalisongoma2013

2 ай бұрын

Oh, so you were actually saying "FSD sees the cones but it doesn't show me that it sees them"

When it works going down a road, in a lane, it seems fine. When it isn't fine, it is entirely possible for someone to end up dead, and more than a few people have. What blows my mind is that testing something with those potential consequences,on the public, violates every professional ethical standard I'm aware of (and I'm referring to Tesla, not you specifically).

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I'm not sure if I agree with the argument that FSD should be stopped after a tragic accident. Consider a scenario where an airplane engine or even an entire airplane falls from the sky and hits a house, causing fatalities. Should we then ground every plane ever built? I never agreed to have planes flying over my house, but they do. We could bring up the argument that planes have been tested well, but I would refer you to any Boeing news for the last three years. In My opinion, the Tesla Level 2 system we see today, which I drive 98% of the time, is better than a person who is texting on their smartphone with no FSD. And we even have no phone hands-free laws that don't work.

@dmwalker24

2 ай бұрын

@@FSDdriver The recent Boeing issues are from the exact same cost-cutting strategies that lead Tesla to publicly beta test potentially-dangerous software. My cat is better at driving than a person texting on a phone. The comparison of planes to FSD is not even remotely appropriate. Planes have auto-pilot features which are actively controlled, and monitored, and don't include complex decision-making. They set alt, hdg, vs, spd, and the plane hits those targets and holds. The people using it are extensively trained, and they are extensively tested, and have system redundancy. Look I get where you're coming from, but I'm saying from a system design and operation standpoint, this is about as far away from best practices as it is possible to be. It's an irresponsible way to save money by having people like yourself, train their model for them.

I have been driving ordinary cars for 46 years. Not one has scared me like this piece of junk scared this driver. Progress?

@FSDdriver

Ай бұрын

You could simply drive it in normal mode. It's a reliable electric vehicle..

FSD: Fool Self-Driving

@FSDdriver

Ай бұрын

LOL you got to let the car cook if no one else is around.

You are wrong FSD is DC doing it right.

@FSDdriver

Ай бұрын

?

The latest 12.3.4 software, and still multiple errors on an *easy* *drive* , for a human. Full autonomy is a long ways off.

FSD is better than most drivers on the road. I live in a resort area, and the vacationers drive like they don't have a brain. Tesla fsd is advancing rapidly, and the advances are exponential.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

Being a visitor and having the ability to drive a new location and taking in your soundings is always great! Just sit back and let the car do the work.

The lights are not active the side streets are responsible for yielding imo. They should have temporary stop signs at the side streets.

@galaxiedance3135

2 ай бұрын

They should have signage up! I'm in Construction and I have the tickets to do that sort of thing. There should be signs to alert drivers heading to the intersection and there should be stop signs put up at all 4 sides. I had to put up a "Trucks merging" sign back when we only had a concrete truck come maybe once every 2 days. it's that important to have the correct stuff up!!

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I would need to look up what my state law says about this. Today I took the same drive and this time it stopped for all of them even with no cross traffic in sight. I was going to post a video but now FSD 12.3.6 is rolling out. Once I get it I will repost a new attempt.

@andrewcastiglia9548

2 ай бұрын

@FSDdriver I wouldn't be at all surprised if that single drive was all FSD needed to be able to map this new area. My very limited knowledge of programming says that the system flagged this incident and recognized no associated map training data. You have to figure while the software is processing in real time I bet the map data cells that the navigation flows through probably have associated conditions, rules, ect. How else would the car know to change a speed limit a 1/4 mile before a visible speed limit sign and other such things like which lanes go where. Even non self driving cars have these maps built into their navigation. My Mazda's current nav is 1 year out of date now and some newly constructed features are absent.

use common senses. Do not engage FSD on construction sites or school zone.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

Last time I checked you can't avoid road construction or school zones. How would Robo Taxi work?

That what happens when your car company removes Lidar sensors for cheap basic cameras in order to cut costs.

@andrewcastiglia9548

2 ай бұрын

It's a new completely unmapped area. I'm sure you have never EVER once made a driving error that could have resulted in an accident that could have harmed you or others.

@mikes8510

2 ай бұрын

FYI... Lidar cant read lights, but it'll know the distance to the light. Lidar equipped cars also needs cameras to read signs and/or lights.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

I believe it’s better to have both, but in order to cut cost of the manufacturing of a car they are focused on vision only based technology, which if they can master, it will be extremely easy to license to other auto makers and they wouldn’t require those sensors as well. It will be interesting to see in the future.

I have m3 rwd. I hate the cruise control / autopilot. I always loved driving with the cc on in my previous car. Tesla ruined that for me. Can't do 15 minutes of relaxed autopilot driving without the stupid car braking for no reason at all. I kinda hate the whole car. It sucks, always wanted to have a tesla, now i own one for few months and I can't believe how bad it is. The car and steeringwheel vibrate a lot. Window seals are not airtight. There is a lot of water in all 4 light units. And tesla service is the worst I ever encoutered. I will not cry if Tesla closes shop.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

Auto pilot is for highways. FSD is for everything else. I’m sorry you’ve had a bad experience, I know the build quality is not always there, I do suffer from moisture in my tail lights as well. If you’ve ever had a chance to be in a new M3 2024 that’s a premium car. Software will get better, I don’t have phantom breaking anymore.

This was hard to listen to.

@FSDdriver

Ай бұрын

Glad you did

@learning_the_hard_way

Ай бұрын

@@FSDdriver I couldn't finish the video.

could do better, but then what other car would even attempt these kinds of roads.

@LordandGodofYouTube

2 ай бұрын

Mercedes could do it easily, they are level 3 whereas Tesla is and always will be while using only cameras level 2.

@galaxiedance3135

2 ай бұрын

If you're going to have a car be in control of where it's heading, then no matter where it goes, it should be able to do it. Even if it's travelling down a rough muddy road in a 3rd world country. It should know what it's doing. It must think like a logical human in every situation. It should even slow down or move around a squirrel on the road if it's safe to do so, just like a human. It should be AMAZING, completely AMAZING.... so far, it's just okay.. It's a small "Party Trick" and that's it.

@seb_gibbs

2 ай бұрын

@@LordandGodofKZread is level 3, but is less capable than the Tesla. Level 3 autopilot only available with in very limit use cases, like a staying in a single lane doing under 40mph following traffic.

These fails are HORRIBLE! This is just one car, imagine with millions of robo taxies making these mistakes or just stopping on the road. I know it's not the final one but still, these errors are simply unacceptable. I'd be scared driving with this, too unpredictable. I agree, the "No Lights" treat it like an intersection if there's a power outage, everyone stops and then goes, you learn that when you get a license !!! I guarantee insurance would say that it would be your fault!!!

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

Our model Y acts completely different than our M3 on FSD.

So, fsd is not perfect, time to give up and let the chinese get there first.

What's with the drama queen schtick? Chill out.

@rainbowsixODST

2 ай бұрын

Exactly it makes the situation seem way worse than it is. For what it’s worth this was still impressive. At the moment FSD is working off 1.3billion miles of data. Elon said he think it will need 6billion to pass regulatory approval. We should hit that 6billion mark by either the end of this year or by early to middle next year.

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

@@rainbowsixODST end of 2024 early 2025.

Some people should not own a car

@FSDdriver

2 ай бұрын

That’s why we are making robo-taxi ;-)