The hard stop for the pedestrians was amazing

Sound like me… “the ladders are going to fall off and hit me.” I’ve had my Tesla for 10 days and just started using fsd the last 2 days. The future is now. This drives better than 75-90% of humans. I live in Princeton NJ and 90 year old folks drive all around this town. I’m going to buy full package for 8k. I need the help with evening driving.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

Prepaying for 80 months worth of FSD? What if in a year or two we all realize we need more sensors or cameras for all-lighting-all-weather-incl-natural-disaster FSD? There is a reason hw5 will (likely) be vastly different than hw4... It's actually built for the current (neural) architecture. In other words, you may want to upgrade your Tesla in 2-3 years and *never* recover that $8k fee.

@RikHeijmen

Ай бұрын

The $99 plan will not last. ​@@Fatman305

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

​@@RikHeijmenI don't see the competition relenting any time soon, and once driving by vision-only and neural network is the proven solution, others will (probably are already) going to jump in with the exact same strategy. No matter how hard Elon tries to prevent it, the Chinese will steal *everything*... If anything, FSD will be free in China, and $50/mo in US within a year. The data collected will be worth way more than the diff...

@bondnikunj

Ай бұрын

​@@Fatman305 no tesla already got adequate cameras to map out surroundings and enough processing power to render them. More processing power is always better but hardware isnt the limiting factor.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

@@bondnikunj Not under every single weather and lighting condition... I believe better hardware cars will drive safely totally autonomously under conditions that older Teslas will make dangerous mistakes if not supervised.

Nice ride .6 looks good

The blind spot issue has been with us for ages. It will actively change lanes into blind spots and hang out in them as well. They need to squash that

@EmmanuelJotterand

Ай бұрын

Any lane should be EJFJ humano-normed since March 15th, 1996, containing few lanthanid atoms in a well made Bill !T introduced hypo-magnetic micro-chips showing the road curves and direction the road is made to be used... EJFJ Positive Contextualisation and EJFJ Positive Communication should allow any electronic system (computer, vehicle, lamp, ...) to give positive instructions to spare any risk ...

@rickkay9548

Ай бұрын

@@EmmanuelJotterand NPC ai is misfiring

I love fsd

Awesome video ❤ I'm also waiting for to se 12.4 and It's so good now. Some huge differences between USA ❤ and Europe ❤ is that USA still uses 4-way stops, red lights everywhere, one-way lanes and kind of dangerous unprotected left turns. I can't speak for all countries in Europe. But 4-way stops and dangerous unprotected lefts are mostly solved with turn abouts, we have them in droves. Tiny, small and large ones. One-way lanes exists, oc, but they are rare. If FSD manage USA it will manage Europe for sure. One thing that will happen here and not so much in USA is tiny roads in a 1000 year old town and it might use reverse to make a right hand turn. But that is in low speed, it will be solved. (Suicide lanes 😂😂😂 impossible here in Europe)

Very nice comments …. One thing to improve would be your camera > as it was difficult, and slightly blurry to see your media screen details. ie: I could not read/see the speed you are going. A number of other such drives on youtube > the producer had a better camera and it was great to see their screen details.

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

They need to fix the right side bias, especially on tight right handed curves.

Don't forget, the car is using a different, older software 'stack' driving on the highway and is only end to end neural on city streets. Don't expect highway driving changes. When my car tries to perform a lane change line dance I give it a bit of go pedal and it completes the lane change quickly. Same thing when it acts like it doesn't know how to make a turn at an intersection - go pedal wakes it up and it drives better.

Yes, there are things

how is it that your not required to hold the wheel. Does upcoming versions not have that requirement which I think is unnecessary?

Great video! One quick Q: when I am on FSD, it constantly reminds me to put my hands on the wheel. Why yours is completely hands-free?

@markl3893

Ай бұрын

Tesla FSD watches you like a hawk when it is engaged. I can drive without blue screen nags by keeping one hand on the wheel, letting the wheel support my arm so it knows I'm there and doing my job of paying attention to traffic, etc.. If you look at your phone, or otherwise seem like you aren't paying attention to the road, it will nag you a lot, even disengage FSD and lock it out until you stop the car, exit and start driving again. As the car's supervisor, it is your job to pay attention, even disengage and send Tesla a voice note when you don't like what it is doing.

@rishabhsharma455

Ай бұрын

It's not. You can see the blue alerts in this video. You can scroll either wheel on the steering wheel instead of placing your hands on it. Scrolling the control wheels is easier.

Good full test, excellent Tiger Hawk hat. After using 12.3.5 and 6 my only niggle is getting too close to curbs and other vehicles.

@DerekDavis213

Ай бұрын

If you try 12.3.5 in a busy big city, like LA, New York, Toronto, you will have *many* niggles. FSD is still just a Level 2 assistant, nothing more.

@koreyb99

Ай бұрын

@@DerekDavis213 I’m impressed that you’ve tried 12.3.5 in all these cities when it was just released in the last week! Amazing personal experience you’ve had with the software.

@DerekDavis213

Ай бұрын

@@koreyb99 12.3.5 was released 7 days ago. Plenty of time to see how it performs. And sadly, not much has changed: FSD is just a simple minded Level 2 assistant that makes mistakes on any mildly challenging drive. A human can drive every day for 10 years, without an accident. FSD is nothing like a human driver!

@AGENT47ist

Ай бұрын

@@DerekDavis213 Classic troll on the Internet, he knows everything before it even comes out. GTFO

@DerekDavis213

Ай бұрын

@@AGENT47ist Just because YOU didn't get 12.3.5 yet, doesn't mean that its not out. The world does not revolve around you!

How long until you have to touch the wheel ?

"we are consistently speeding" you said aggressive mode!

Did you notice the delay between the cars/trucks going by the window that the image on the screen. I hope this is not an indication of the computer being overloaded.

@lucadellasciucca967

Ай бұрын

It s not. The visualization on screen has very little correlation with what the car sees and no correlation at all with what the car does.

I'm sure Robotaxi will be out on August 8th it's already bloody good

Go Hawks!

You set it to aggressive I guess that's what's going so fast?

I think it saw that squirrel was preparing to drive around it, but it realized it didn't have to and kept going.

Finally something taken from Xpeng XNGP vy Tesla... But is it as efficient and secure when other road users acts badly, illegally, wastefully, dangerously ?

Great video...but... There are enough haters watching these videos that some of them are going to start crying to the NHTSA about speeding and then we will see that agency crack down on Tesla again. Then we will have our speed set by bureaucrats instead of being flexible. This needs to be posted on every video where excessive speeding is being observed.

@1strychnine

Ай бұрын

I completely disagree. You have control over the speed that FSD goes. What's the difference between that and cruise control where you also control the speed of the vehicle?

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

Perhaps you count me as "a hater" because I logged the *excessive* speeding as a mistake. I think the default, even in aggressive..I mean assertive mode should never be above 10% of speed limit, except following some other speeding car lol, just like I do... If you're "above the law" or just willing to get ticketed, that's fine because I do take those risks too, so that's where you should be able to request the car to drive 20% (or whatever) above the speed limit...or even 50%...(say you have a true emergency and really don't care about getting ticketed)... Those who will go cry to whoever about the speeding FSD will likely shoot themselves in the foot when actual tests prove the AI cars should be above the human law because their reaction time and road comprehension allows that with zero additional risk...

@shallenberger57

Ай бұрын

@1strychnine The current FSD has an option to let the car decide on the speed, not what offset you choose. With this setting you can't adjust the speed down or up. The other setting allows you to set an MPH or % over the speed.

@shallenberger57

Ай бұрын

@Fatman305 I can agree with what you said... I am just saying that KZread posters continuously displaying the speeding of FSD is going to instigate those haters. Plus, the current option of allowing FSD to choose the speed without an ability to throttle it down is bad. The other setting of MPH or % over the speed is good enough plus you can adjust the speed with your scroll wheel.

What city is this ?

The FSD is a learning AI . It's meant to adapt the more it's being used and the drivers style of driving .

@lucadellasciucca967

Ай бұрын

I want to clarify. There is no learning happenign at the car level. But yes, the car is trained on human driving video clips from the car fleet.

👋👍

Your voice sounds allmost exactly like Klay Thompson's

11:01 the car will speed if it's in assertive if don't like it then go back to average

Keep supporting Nick Fuentes!

People often refer to what humans do when driving, but think about how many accidents we have ! I don't think humans are a good reference point.

@SameinPriester-ms5yr

Ай бұрын

Facts!

@jumpinggoldagatito9153

Ай бұрын

Human errors are good reference points for bad examples.

@CC-fb9yj

Ай бұрын

Think about what you're actually saying. No human chooses to have an accident. Humans can choose to crash cars, of course, but then those crashes wouldn't be called "accidents." So the problem is not in a human's judgment, but in one's ability to react quickly enough to avoid accidents and feel safe while riding around in a vehicle. Since these machines are built for humans, there is no other way to drive than the way a human would drive.

@JustAThought01

Ай бұрын

My thought: many accidents not from bad judgement; but, from lack of attention. Drivers get bored or distracted.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

​@@CC-fb9yjI disagree. The true potential of FSD will be revealed like those "alien Go games" DeepMind released after cracking Go. The driving will be superhuman. Every aspect of human driving can be improved upon, especially once cars communicate with each other. It'll be like watching aliens drive.

The hesitating at stop sign, including right turn, is really annoying. O/w it drives pretty well, better than my wife.😅

But you did have it in assertive mode, correct?

No Phantom breaking but Phantom slow wings (17 mph in 45 mph)! Just as frustrating and get honks and dirty looks 😡😠🤬. Oh... I now get sudden hard braking during parallel parkings.

FSD does not need to be assertive or fast it just has to get me to work safe. PERIOD. I don't care how fast it goes because I will be sleeping Wake me when we get there Grok

My first drive with 12.3.6, it rubbed my tires on the curb during a turn :( Unacceptable.

Oops Supervised FSD v12.3.6 - Unprotected Left Turns Chuck Cook

I saw one the other day on KZread Supervised FSD v12.3.6 - First Impressions Drive Chuck Cook

FSD works but Chicago is pothole city. Lane markings need to be redone.

세상을 안전하게 만드는 기술이다. 좀 퍼뜨려라. 미국인들아. 이 미친 기술을 안쓰고 뭐하는 건지. 나라에서 적극 홍보해 줘도 모자랄 판에.

The FSD is not meant to cater for every every every human style of driving. It is a standard way of driving that caters for the standard way of driving. All improvements are geared towards that standard improvements not per each individual driver's preferred way of driving 😂

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

The standard should be set by the driving style of heavy drivers but still, miraculously, in the 99th-percentile of accidents free drivers. That means not only "not causing accidents" but also "preventing accidents with the infinite amount of idiots on the road". And no, it ain't luck. They simply put drive better...

Humans hang out in blindspots all the time. You can't drive without being in someone's blindspot. Its up to them to make sure their blinspot is free if they have to switch lanes. Thats not a safety concern

When I upgraded to 12.3.6 it totally confused my navigation route, Did anybody notice that?

The visualization is purely done by the car vision. The stop sign was there cause the car thought it was not because of any map.

@shallenberger57

Ай бұрын

That is an incorrect statement. Tesla has added signs showing up on the navigation map a while ago. That is from map data, and the same map data is being used by the vision generation. An exception is when the vision sees a sign not available in map data.

US roads are so unsafe by comparison with most of Europe. If FSD can safely navigate the US it should be fine in places like India :)

How do you drive with out your hand on steering wheel? Lately Tesla has been serious about nagging people.

the whole vid looks mushy, maybe try not to compress it to hard next time

@simonyapp

Ай бұрын

It’s only 720p

BUY mom and dad FSD. 30분이상 운전 하는거 힘들다. 집중력 저하.

Those little "things" you say and have noticed are not part of its model. Remember it only mimics best possible ways on how to act in situations it was trained on. Clearly it has no reference when it comes to loose trailers, ladders on top of trucks and other possible dangerous things. To be cautious in those areas it needs to be trained on videos showing accidents involving those objects. And you can be sure it would be impossible for Tesla to get their hands on those kinds of videos which they could use in their training data model. As time progresses, and more videos get submitted, the model will only get better. But then you would have another option in the settings instead of ASSERTIVE you will have to pick CAUTIOUS. So are you a cautious or assertive driver? You can't be both.

@lucadellasciucca967

Ай бұрын

But then the car is autonomous. You don t need to choose any option.

@PinchOfLuck

Ай бұрын

@@lucadellasciucca967 It is actually semi-autonomous, supervised. AND most of you are selecting assertive in the settings.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

Tesla doesn't need to see any real accidents to add that data to the neural network. I anticipate they will not wait for accidents to occur, but already predict such scenarios and create simulations for the car to try to handle (and fail, until it never fails again on that). If everyday people can describe the risk, then a simulation can be created for it, and an AI can learn how to handle it before ever encountering it...

@PinchOfLuck

Ай бұрын

@@Fatman305 Actually they do. This is FSD 12 not 11. They can't simply add this. AI needs to learn it from videos.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

@@PinchOfLuck I'd have to disagree. They *must have* found a way to train the ai on crude-geometry simulated footage, and/or injecting predigested synthetic data and/or feeding some totally believable game engine -generated video feeds in the absolute worst case.

You're complaining about the car sitting there in a blind spot as you're approaching your exit, remember you have it in highly aggressive driving mode. That's what an aggressive driver would do which is unsafe. No one should be driving in aggressive mode.

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

My counter argument for that, as a sometimes somewhat aggressive driver, is that you don't need to snooze on someone's blind spot. You either drive right next to them (preferably ahead), or right behind them, ready to intervene if they cut you off, blinded or "oh oh this is our exit, lets hope the guy I'm cutting off is the best driver on earth"...

This is as good as humans By ver 13 clearly better and by 2026 way way better. no one will even have that Q. like for chess engines

@Fatman305

Ай бұрын

I agree with that timeline. It'll be superhuman before we know it...

musk use ppl like expandables

@Meishach2112

Ай бұрын

Even though they have a hard time getting bigger!

@unclejoe8279

Ай бұрын

You need to call him Elon if you are his buddy like everyone thinks they are LOL.

@VeteranWS

Ай бұрын

@@unclejoe8279 i can call anything i want, i dont like him

@JamesBond-qv2ht

28 күн бұрын

Name one CEO who doesn’t.

@VeteranWS

28 күн бұрын

@@JamesBond-qv2ht it is about the degree and insolence and yes there are company with social responsible approach, dont you know?

Keeping tabs... Tesla fail: 2:39 goes too fast over railroad crossing tracks Tesla fail: 4:41 hesitating while switching lanes (slight jiggling the steering wheel) Tesla fail: 7:23 didn't see a sign on cone that says "keep right" Tesla fail: 7:38 going 36 in 25 zone. Risk for ticket. Tesla fail: 8:47 goes straight from turn right only lane (better mapping should fix) Tesla fail: 10:05 hanging in other cars blind spot right before exit Tesla fail: 13:15 Going 41 in 25. Highly ticketable... Tesla fail: 14:10 Not keeping extra distance from truck carrying a wiggling ladder Tesla fail: 14:30 glove on road, didn't make a slight move away. It could have been some animal. No cars around to justify no action. Tesla fail: 16:26 didn't creep right after stopping to have a chance of right on red Tesla fail: 16:46 taking risk, not being courteous to bus. Should have changed lane. Tesla fail: 20:10 too close to car with hazard lights on/stop lights. Can expect driver to open door. Should have slowed down and possibly moved slightly into other lane

@DerekDavis213

Ай бұрын

Thank you! So many FAILS in the latest FSD software. And on a short *20* *minute* *drive* . After 4 years in beta, it is still quite crude. Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away.

@koreyb99

Ай бұрын

@@DerekDavis213 So many fails that he had to take over…zero times is my count. That might be his first no takeover drive of that length.

@covetthecamper2289

Ай бұрын

Not really fair to call out all of those fails with FSD set in assertive driving style, that’s what you get. Dial it back and the speeds will be safer etc.

@kimeriksson7445

Ай бұрын

Majority of those are not fails.

@DerekDavis213

Ай бұрын

@@kimeriksson7445 But many are FAILS. FSD after 4 years in beta is a simple minded Level 2 assistant. Nothing like a human driver!

put that way I got only one person I can trust is myself