Tennessee Body Farm expert questions the state of Riley Strain when he was found
A friend says Riley Strains family arranged for a second autopsy and have question about how he was found. Riley did not have his pants or cowboy boots when he was pulled from river.
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His pants are missing. No foul play. Come on officer.
@FlyGuy2000
Ай бұрын
So were his cowboy boots. Have you ever tried to take off cowboy boots? They don't slip off easily.
@teresamiller5060
Ай бұрын
If you fell into a cold deep dark river the first thing you’re going to do is take off your shoes/boots and jeans to make it easier to swim/float. I’m sure the cold water would have put him in a panic to survive. So I wasn’t surprised that he was found without them on.
@bonnenaturel6688
Ай бұрын
@@teresamiller5060 not if they are difficult to take off, you are going to kick and try to swim. Takes too long to remove boots. He was a good swimmer anyway, according to parents.
@addisperez8205
Ай бұрын
@teresamiller5060 Do you know how hard that would be, especially if the river level was up and the current was strong? He was over 6' tall. Most people who wear jeans and boots also wear a belt. Have you ever been wearing jeans 👖 while they were wet? They are very difficult to take off because they cling to your body especially if they are tight. Boots don't come off as easily as tennis shoes. I've always thought foul play. The family has announced that they will be speaking 🔊 soon. Prayers for answers for his parents. They need to know what happened to Riley after he disappeared from the sight of surveillance cameras.
@coreythurston6137
Ай бұрын
I wish the officials would stop fooling around with this poor kids family. He drowned and had a larygial spasm which closes your airways to prevent water from reaching your lungs. Honestly he probably fell in the water and was holding his breath and drowned struggling to pull his pants and boots of trying to be able to swim. Anyone who has been clothed in water knows how hard it is to move in water while clothed. Rest in Peace Riley. May your family find peace with your tragic accident and these officials leave them alone. They are going to end up putting some poor innocent homeless person in jail for life because THEY want this to be a murder.
0:41 it's really a shame that official autopsy reports are so untrustworthy that families have to pay for their own if they want to know the truth.
@MovingAlong742
Ай бұрын
Agreed. All families are routinely advised to get one. Our law enforcement-judicial system is unreliable.
@pricklypear7516
Ай бұрын
Except that the autopsy the family paid for CONFIRMED the official one. How is that "untrustworthy"? Everybody -- including the family -- seems to be intent upon making this a case of foul play when there's just no evidence of it. Are y'all just lusting for someone to punish?
@ellobo1326
Ай бұрын
Doesn’t mean they are untrustworthy at all. Family was hoping for different results and got a big L.
@ariellaabrahams
Ай бұрын
@pricklypear7516 confirmation is after the fact. If they had confidence in the results, they would not have paid privately for what I'm sure is a large amount of money. Your logical skills are weak, and you are leaping to wild conclusions about motivation of commentors. Why don't you do some research about how often it's been proven that coroner results were wrong and coroners were corrupt. Happens frequently which might be why so many families take this route
@pricklypear7516
Ай бұрын
@@ariellaabrahams Anyone who has insult others and launch an attack merely because they questioned/corrected an assertion is unbalanced. Coroners' and medical examiners' autopsy reports have been found time and time again to be exceedingly accurate. Perhaps your only exposure to such reports stem from the Daybell fiasco?
No, someone stole his cowboy boots, jeans and his life.
@queenp9549
Ай бұрын
Right
@poempadgett4664
Ай бұрын
And his distinctive shirt, or, remember, there was that guy seen wearing it…😞
@Nikki30288
Ай бұрын
Size 15 is a big guy...shouldn't be hard to find
@marryellenmonahan5585
Ай бұрын
@@Nikki30288 The perpetrator probably sold them.
@lovepet4565
Ай бұрын
A bum
Why will no one say why he was told to leave the bar. Nothing but crickets from his frat brothers.
@TheMiriam333
Ай бұрын
Exactly!! Everyone wants to know and it’s the most vaguely weird fog ever!! Wouldn’t so many people be talking about it from the bar?? Anyone at all!? It just makes no sense.
@emaulinecox5543
Ай бұрын
True friends that do not wish any harm to come to you will always accompany you. Dr Bass knows his stuff. Prayers that all truth comes to light no matter how painful
@LinneaSanchez
Ай бұрын
Agreed!!!!
@traybern
Ай бұрын
BECAUSE…he was TOO DRUNK. PAY ATTENTION!!!
@sandyfields678
Ай бұрын
Too d4unk 2 serv3..apparently..2 get get in another bar,,,but not admitt3d..why h3 got tu4n3d in wrong dir3ction 2 hot3l,,.
Poor Riley, he needed better friends! At his age we NEVER left anyone behind if we went out! All in....All out together! I hope they learn from this disaster!
@MovingAlong742
Ай бұрын
I know. He'd be alive today IF..... These young people really need to learn how to have each other's back, especially if in a strange city and out drinking and partying.
@krystaldaniels7940
Ай бұрын
I agree 100% and I’ve made sure to remind my kids of this after seeing the outcome of this case. 😢
@onetuliptree
Ай бұрын
If Riley was out with one friend, they would have stuck together, but in a big group it was easy for the group to stick together but not to split up. I hope everyone learns that even if you go out with a group, make sure there is one person who will stick with you and you do the same for them.
@teresa8793
Ай бұрын
We never did either 😢 this is so so heartbreaking. 💔🙏
@oldman-zr2ru
Ай бұрын
Agreed, we would have never left one of our friends alone like that. With friends like his, who needs enemies?
He died near a homeless camp, and from what I understand he had no water in his lungs when he was found in the river, which means he was dead before he went in the water. My guess is a homeless guy found him already dead, took his pants, boots, and wallet, and put his body in the river.
@karynlouisa3771
Ай бұрын
Why not take his watch??
@Michael_Beanflip
Ай бұрын
Why didn’t they take his radio or take his weapon?
@MG-ot2yr
Ай бұрын
No it doesn't, there's other things you can die from in a river in march, like hypothermia
@Michael_Beanflip
Ай бұрын
@@MG-ot2yr and covid
@Cortalpsychmajor
Ай бұрын
If it was foul play, and I'm not saying it was, the watch would be able to track the location of whoever took it. And if that is the case, the same could be said about the debit card, most times a debit card is used there is a camera near by to track who used it. Most thieves don't want to be tracked or identified. @@karynlouisa3771
Nashville doesn't want to admit foul play in the first place, let alone that this happened by a homeless encampment. They'd have to admit that not only was someone murdered, but that their homeless problem is now critical.
@Lt.Dan2.0
Ай бұрын
If it was foul play they are very good at not leaving any signs of foul play.
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
Right & they know someone Killed the poor young man & there covering it up.
@YTnotes
Ай бұрын
Or maybe. And hear me out... he was black out drunk in a town he's unfamiliar with and fell in the river?
@mollynash2597
Ай бұрын
The homeless have been an issue for a number of years. This is also not the first time a drunk man ended up dead in the river. It happened about 2 years ago to another man but it didn't get near the publicity as this case.
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
@mollynash2597 I agree with you my friend I'm from San Francisco I know that someone killed him, And I I know it was one of the homeless people that did it for his clothes.
The Homeless man who did the interview said that they heard a ruckus. Probably when poor Riley was jumped and Robbed, then put in the River... Prayers for truth and justice for Riley and his family. 😢
@user1.8.2.
Ай бұрын
There was also a homeless guy who was doing all he could to keep searchers away from that particular area...
@Tia-Louisa
Ай бұрын
and probably R worded. Homeless really bad homeless guys - INCELS do that a LOT!!!
@debraporter1797
Ай бұрын
They will find the truth. Riley's funeral is Friday. His stepdad says in a week they will let out more info!
When I heard the report that his pants and boots were missing, I assumed he was found naked from the waist down. How does a current pull off pants and not boxers? Boots and not socks? But not his apple watch and shirt?
@MARILYNANDERSON88
Ай бұрын
I agree. This report is excellent work.
@SirJoey420
Ай бұрын
Easy answer. He went to the river to take a piss and lost his balance and fell in.
@MovingAlong742
Ай бұрын
That's exactly my question, too. Socks and boxer shorts on but boots and pants off? Naaah.... the river didn't do that.
@Otis1330
Ай бұрын
Keep in mind, he wore a size 15 boot and had skinny jeans on. Something is sus about this.
@SirJoey420
Ай бұрын
@@MovingAlong742 you don’t think he kicked his boots off fighting for his life? Pants undone and falling, not to mention the weight of wet jeans, he couldn’t have kicked them off fighting for his life?
Nashville is covering their fanny. The tourist destination, money making machine is being threatened. This death has caused me never to visit Nashville.... ever. I had planned to go this or next year. I've never been, but because of Rileys death I'm swearing off Nashville. Im sure the many celebrity bar and restaurant owners are speed dialing calls to the mayor's office insisting on big time damage control. This town is filled with honky tonks, bars, alcohol, liquor, music, late nights and partying!! Thats what its known for. This is how an impaired young man was treated???Thats what the city is freaking out about. Lost revenue. Some bad guy saw Riley struggling. Riley was an easy mark. A soft touch. Like a wounded animal he was attacked. They wanted his wallet, $$ cash. There was an altercation. The thief killed Riley. Took his boots, took his jeans to wear or sell. Took his wallet. Went threw it for the cash and threw it aside. Rolled Riley into the river and walked away. That's what I believe happened. Give this investigation some time. Eventually, the truth will be found out and told. Has Luke's fired the minimum wage bartender who sounded the alarm about Rileys questionable conduct, or the security guard who made the executive decision to throw Riley out the door? Rocket scientists they are not. This tragedy should never have happened. Riley, you are in my heart forever and always.
@gibbygibbons5835
Ай бұрын
Exactly! ! ! I lived there and I was drugged in a bar if it wasnt for my friend taking me home Im afraid to think what could of happened to me. Almost had my son kidnapped in less than a minute from his own yard. I hated living there. I always felt uneasy. Thank you Jesus we still are alive and well.
@rockstarofredondo
Ай бұрын
@@gibbygibbons5835that’s nuts. So many stories online about people saying they were drugged while at bars in Nashville. Must be a crime ring doing this. Glad you made it.
@Cortalpsychmajor
Ай бұрын
Traffickers are everywhere in tourist towns. I live in a popular vacation area in Oregon and our city is FILLED with cartels that traffic people. It's bad. @@rockstarofredondo
@reiddavis9919
Ай бұрын
Nashville is being threatened? lol, it was "business as usual" during the 2 weeks this was being played out, has been in the time since & will be going forward. Downtown's "money making machine" has survived recent flooding, tornadoes, a devastating Christmas terrorist bombing & this.
@ParanormalExplorer
Ай бұрын
All cities paint a pretty picture but hide the ugly. Nashville has violent crime thanks to mostly black criminals. This is a fact and they're released constantly. Jillian Ludwig would be here today if it wasn't for stupid, incompetent judges.
The truth will come out!!!
@Aochic
Ай бұрын
Doubt it.
@LinneaSanchez
Ай бұрын
It already has…he over drank and succumbed to his choices
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
@@LinneaSanchez NO he didn't Sardine breath
@leecarson3426
Ай бұрын
@@LinneaSanchezNope. Not buying that bullshit story.
@LinneaSanchez
Ай бұрын
Well that’s what happened so….
How could there not be foul play of he's missing his pants and boots. That's just ridiculous. Check that homeless man's tent. They should've done that ASAP. Pretty suspicious
@er-ha
Ай бұрын
I think a decent possibility is hypothermia honestly. But everything should definitely be investigated thoroughly, of course.
@discospiders
Ай бұрын
River current could easily remove those items.
@TheElusiveReality
Ай бұрын
its really not that hard for someone to remove their own pants and shoes lol especially if theyre very drunk, that's not nearly enough evidence to suggest foul play
@MG-ot2yr
Ай бұрын
@@er-ha Exactly, that's been my theory as well. He got his own pants off and boots to swim better, then got caught in debris or otherwise unable to get out of the water in time and succumbed to hypothermia, which is very difficult to determine as cause of death with a body in the water for 2 weeks.
@er-ha
Ай бұрын
@@MG-ot2yr Yeah, or even something like he went to relieve himself in the water but maybe accidentally stepped in? So decided to take off his boots and pants because it would have been freezing or because hypothermia set in and he started feeling hot because of it. Even if he just fell in when he was relieving himself, his pants would have already been slightly down and who knows how tightly his shoes were on in the first place? In any case, tumbling around a river for 2 weeks with debris and foliage as you mentioned-it isn’t impossible for clothing to come off. It’s not even overly rare when considering (river) drowning deaths.
Wow! Sounds like the family is at least getting more info. And hearing that the family has big things to share next week is a good sign they may be getting some answers!
Your reporter misquotes the doctor, saying "it's possible but unlikely", when in fact the doctor said "No, they would not come off." That is an absolute statement, it is not the same as "possible but unlikely."
@varishnakov
Ай бұрын
That assumes the clip was the only thing the man had to say on the matter. In fact, I'm sure the reporter had a full conversation with the expert, and he likely said it was possible but unlikely in the interview.
Why are most of these comments ignoring the Body Farm Expert on this interview? Sounds like a lot of bar owners and their friends on here.
No pants or boots? No water in lungs? 🤦🏻♀️
@MrTruckerf
Ай бұрын
No water in lungs? Where did you hear that or are you just asking the question?
@grannyfisher3863
Ай бұрын
@@MrTruckerf It was on one of the news interviews.
Thank you, Nick. Eager to learn results of toxicology. Moreover, whatever happened at the bar - according to server, Riley was served one drink resulting in extreme adverse reaction (how much had he drank prior to entering that bar?) Why didn't a friend stay with him if he was in such a drunken state? NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE except Riley ended up in the worst area - homeless encampment.
@kaysmith4016
Ай бұрын
He went to more than 1 bar...
@joannleichliter4308
Ай бұрын
They need to test for GHB. There are lots of disappearances like this, especially in college towns. They follow a disturbingly similar pattern.
@sgrvtl7183
Ай бұрын
.......a strong possibility that someone dropped 'something' in his drink....and so weird that NONE of his fraternity brothers helped him get safely to their hotel....somebody knows something and they are not coming forward.....let's hope they do.
@stephaniehawkins2920
Ай бұрын
@@joannleichliter4308THAT'S ALL I CAN THINK OF!!! How is nobody talking about that?!
@joannleichliter4308
Ай бұрын
@@stephaniehawkins2920 I guess most people aren't awareof it.
Some one killed the poor guy & they know it.
@traybern
Ай бұрын
Bud Weiser and Jim Beam!
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
@traybern Very funny Sardine breath
@Jendromeda
Ай бұрын
could be ! maybe he was killed twice....by abandonment the first time...."friends"....and then a person on the streets the second...this is really sickening.
No matter what they try to hide God will expose the darkness to the light! Justice belongs to God ❤️
If water was a factor of losing pants and boots, how come the boxers and socks are still on the victim.
@MyHrtShapedBx
Ай бұрын
And do we have an answer on how he’s still got his shirt but the police reported a homeless man had the super unique shirt on? The homeless man said he found it on a rail with puke on it in a location outside of the area where Riley was pinged as being in. How does a homeless man find a unique designer shirt the same night Riley goes missing? That’s a highly unlikely “coincidence”. This whole story is so frustrating. Have to wonder if what the cops are saying is honest truth or something else. None of this makes sense.
@cm1642
Ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@roselynn816
Ай бұрын
Right.
@Victorseafog
Ай бұрын
Boxers would slide off a lot easier than jeans.
@MrChopsticktech
Ай бұрын
@@MyHrtShapedBx That's been disproven by police. The homeless guy had a different shirt he got somewhere else.
Riley was murdered or because of his behavior on video, he was having a possible medical incident. The boots alone, as well as the jeans would not just fly off the body without help, water or no water. If you drown, your lungs are filled with water. Riley’s were not. Dry drowning perhaps but I doubt it. R.I.P., dear Riley. 🥺
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
I honestly believe someone tried to Rape the poor guy..
@heatherc2203
Ай бұрын
I agree that there's something weird going on. That said, not necessarily. There's dry and wet drowning. Wet drowning is far more common, but dry drowning is found in 10-20% of autopsies. Dry drowning occurs when a little water is inhaled and causes muscle spasms (laryngospasm) in the airway, which blocks airflow and water and stays sealed until cardiac arrest. In a wet drowning, the laryngospasm relaxes after unconsciousness due to hypoxia, water can then enter the lungs leading to cardiac arrest.
@lizzymoore54
Ай бұрын
@@heatherc2203 , thank you for the clarification Heather. I know this myself but you put it into perfectly understandable terms. ☺️
Glad to see this expert.
I believe it would be very hard for his jeans to come off in the water with his boots still on. I think they were taken off by someone else. If he was victim to hazing wouldn’t Riley have been in a fraternity for a long time, wouldn’t they done the hazing when he first jointed that frat. Riley only had a few months to go, and he would have graduated his major
@rhondaqualls2954
Ай бұрын
I don't think hazing but I bet whomever he was on the phone after he left the club knows something. They knew he was lost and trying to direct him but yet when they never got confirmation he made it to hotel did not go searching right then😮....im really confused why they have not answered these questions in press conferences. It's just way to many "could ofs" "should ofs" its possible " "might of" "rare but can happen" and way to many coincidences in this case to not fully investigate
Just watched a video from a building across from where Riley was throwing up and the person was said to have yelled "He's OK, just drunk"....suddenly from behind 5 scooters come up, surround him, and then they can be seen dragging him (his feet are dragging and they are carrying him) back down the street a bit before going towards the water....so, I am suspecting something happened there to Riley, and is certainly worth looking at. Sounds like police just want the case wrapped up
@lindahinzman8236
Ай бұрын
@@The_Drake_London The video is online to see with your own eyes. Or you can just be ignorant.
@lindahinzman8236
Ай бұрын
@@The_Drake_London I watched it twice and blew it up so I could see detail....just because you haven't seen it does not mean it does not exist. Clutch Them Pearls has it on a video also!
@sydneyward4726
Ай бұрын
Yes! I saw that too and it’s sus as hell! Those guys robbed him and threw him in the river imo
@MydNyteRayne
Ай бұрын
Where is the video...I've watched a few but not that one.
@lindahinzman8236
Ай бұрын
@@MydNyteRayne It is on a couple of people's channels...I think Clutch Those Pearls might have it also...check there for sometime in last couple of days....I'll see if I can find the other.
This is so pathetic. His poor family!!!!!!!!!
We always see river currents taking houses from there foundations. Not at all impossible for his clothes to be washed ofc in the current. Cowboy boots filled with water are heavy and could easily slip off while struggling to swim or surface, or perhaps he kicked them off to get rid of the weight dragging him down. As someone mentioned, him with his zipper down and falling in while taking a leak could explain it and is much more logical an explination.... also, he was not wearing skinny jeans. The surveillance videos show his pants over this boots, meaning boot cut jeans.
@mollynash2597
Ай бұрын
Even the body farm guy admitted clothing could get caught on something and torn off. Those currents can be strong.
Bill Bass is a rock star. His books are awesome.
good thing they brought in a body farm expert to tell us that "it's difficult to get your pants off if you fall in a river"
He was coherent enough to be walking around, and not falling. He spoke to a lady, and was coherent enough to be polite by calling her ma’am. He spoke to an officer, and told him he was okay. He managed to do that without making the officer think anything was wrong with him. I am still wondering if he was running in that video before he saw the cop. It looked like it to me. This has foul play all over it.
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
Homophobic attacks
He was murdered
He stated that Dr Bass said that it was possible but unlikely that his pants came off by themselves in the water when in fact he emphatically stated no they would not come off by themselves and he is the leading expert in the world. That's strange.
He was found without his pants or boots. The water would not do that. The medical examiner said that he had not aspirated water, so he did not drown. It could be that they are holding something back.
The book "Deaths Acre" by Dr.Bill Bass is a fantastic read.
I love Dr Bill Bass. I’ve read all of his books. I was hoping he would be asked about the lack of skin slippage as was mentioned on News Nation.
Prayers for the family and friends 🙏🙏🙏
If he had been trying to pee, fell into the river, kicking his boots and pants off, trying to recover, from not being able use his legs to swim. Odd, but it's an explanation
The boots get filled with water and actually acts like quick sand. They had to have been taken off prior to him entering the river.
@electric_girl
Ай бұрын
✨💫
All of the assumptions from all of these Internet detectives are pathetic. Y'all are just jumping to conclusions and you have absolutely NO idea how he died. The second autopsy might shed some light on what happened, it might not. Time will tell.
@debraporter1797
Ай бұрын
Wow you are clueless if you ask me. You bet we know it all sounds to fishy! They will get to the truth. The parents aren't going to stop until they find it. I feel that. I felt something off that same night. He wasn't seen running.....for no reason.
I am so glade that you all got a professional to tell me that his pants did not come off themselves. I would never figured that out on my own.
I knew that the river wouldn’t take them jeans or his size 15 boots off. 😮
If i fell into the river the first thing I would do is remove my boots, to make it easier to swim
@allie5909
Ай бұрын
And how baggy were his jeans? Kids today wear them down low.
@Second_secures_the_first-1776
Ай бұрын
I personally would also take my pants off for same reason. Trying to swim is pants and boots is not easy.
@user1.8.2.
Ай бұрын
Leather cowboy boots are a chore to get off when they're DRY ffs. He was wearing leather square toe boots by Justin, said his mother. Then think about trying to get wet straight leg jeans up from around the top of boots so you can remove boots. THINK.
@toom8rs15
Ай бұрын
Not if you were drunk - hypothermic and panicked being swept downstream
@Second_secures_the_first-1776
Ай бұрын
@@user1.8.2. No water in his lungs is more interesting than the pants and boots question. But get some pants, boots and jump in a pool. Once you get your heel out, you just kick the rest of the boot off. Pants are easy too, get them below mid thigh and start kicking. Now doing all this while drunk/drugged inside a current yeah I get that but if its your life you will get it done, the current might even help with the pants if you face the right way.
Aren't cowboy boots super difficult to get on and off?
@marknewton6984
Ай бұрын
So are jeans for that matter..
For swimming Boy Scouts and Girl scouts used to teach the youth what to do if you fall in water over your head. Step 1 take your shoes off. Step to 2 while floating on your back or belly pull off your pants. You can tie the legs together then and hold them up side down like a cup and trap air in them. Once filled with air you can hold on to them like a make shift PFD.
@marknewton6984
Ай бұрын
Was he thinking clearly as a Boy Scout that night?
Thank you Nick Beres for digging into this! Also this body farm expert is right!
Nashville Cover-up to protect the tourist business and to cover up a bad decision to allow a homeless encampment to exist. Nashville needs to call in the TBI.
@ReneeLee9574
Ай бұрын
Exactly what I’ve been saying. Crime is one thing but crime against tourist looks real bad to people.
@donjulio4025
Ай бұрын
nonsense. Riley caused his own demise.
@asabovesobelow7981
Ай бұрын
Nonsense my arse @@donjulio4025
@ef2512
Ай бұрын
I live here and totally agree.
@Aochic
Ай бұрын
And protect the bar
This is pure BS! his boots and pants didn't just fall off Someone in that homeless camp did this to him Taking advantage of someone that intoxicated😰😰
@michaelwells7348
Ай бұрын
I think that Space People who live in the River got him...
@oceancat0450
Ай бұрын
I agree
@user-ir6dw2vi2j
Ай бұрын
They actually do. I live in a coastal area where people frequently drown and it's really common for them to be found without their shoes and pants. Ask any coroner around.
@danecrawford2658
Ай бұрын
@@michaelwells7348 Totally, he wandered into the wrong area sadly. This makes sense, as he was clear minded enough to walk straight and say something to law enforcement without any problems.
@mieshaaileen6906
Ай бұрын
@@user-ir6dw2vi2j 😳
His mom needs to get his purchase history on the SIZE and description of the boots.
@goofygirl1311
Ай бұрын
His mom probably bought those boots for him.
@jessecars2406
Ай бұрын
Size 15. Justin boots 👢
@goofygirl1311
Ай бұрын
@@jessecars2406 I looked up Justin brand boots and they cost over $200. I can see a thief jumping a guy to get those.
I said from the beginning his frat brothers hazed him and whatever was put in his drink most likely killed him
What about the other bodies found during the search???? Something is not right about all of this!!!!!
@shereeross4049
Ай бұрын
What other bodies? I haven't heard that
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
Drugged, raped, females and males. Murdered and dumped in river. Has Nashville got a serial killer or killers?
@jessicaanderson7885
Ай бұрын
@@shereeross4049 Two other bodies were found but they were never mentioned again.
I agree with Dr Bass 💯 %
It's about time they come out and say it's foul play
My heart goes out to the family, regardless of what the findings are, they have still lost their child.
Praying for his family & I worked in this area and do tomorrow. poor guy was probably robbed by a homeless person and they took his clothes is my theory. There is a lot of homeless people along the River Where the Camera Captured his last image. I’m just sharing what type of people I’ve seen in this area, Not Blaming anyone .But it Possibly Explains missing pants and boots, I Hope they find answers.
It looked like he had hit his head in one of the videos. Head trauma could cause crazy seeming thoughts and actions, like thinking going for a swim in the river at night is an alright idea.
@SirJoey420
Ай бұрын
Or balance problems when he went to piss in the river and fell in with pants and belt undone.
@stopbeingsomean
Ай бұрын
They dont think he had a belt on I'm pretty sure
@stopbeingsomean
Ай бұрын
May never know what really happened, his funeral is tomorrow
@sydneyward4726
Ай бұрын
Nope he was robbed
@joelhoward8211
Ай бұрын
If you just had to piss why would you have to go down a steep hill with heavy brush on it to get to the waters edge?
Sounds like foul play, not that difficult to figure out.
Why do we not have any answers as to where he was before this bar????
Listen to Bill Blass ! He pioneered the science of forensics when it comes to time and cause of death. His research facility, nick named the Body Farm, has provided scientific standards by which both time nd cause of death are determined.
It's like someone saw him and tried to rob him but the fact no water in his lungs is strange !!!
@Ranman1
Ай бұрын
It’s quite often that drowning victims dont have water in thier lungs.
@donjulio4025
Ай бұрын
nonsense. not strange at all
@deenak79
Ай бұрын
@@Ranman1 No, you're wrong. I'm a former mortician.
@MovingAlong742
Ай бұрын
Two things that point to foul play: no water in lungs, yet pants and boots are missing but socks and boxer shorts are in place? The river didn't do that! Sounds like he was already dead and dumped into that river.
@rhondaqualls2954
Ай бұрын
@Ranman1 Those are victims that are pulled from water and technically die on land because water is spit up but it's too late and they experience dry drowning
God bless Riley and his family! 💔💔 I pray the whole truth comes to light!
This is a sloppy investigation, and plenty of clues to suggest it wasn't what they say it is. Thanks to those who won't take this slap happy investigation at face value.
I worked on Offshore Dilling Rigs. We take a water survival class and one of the things you do when you're in the water like that is get rid of your shoes(boots in this case). Riley took his boots off and his jeans off in an attempt to swim.
@dougtinsley1320
Ай бұрын
So what's the explanation for no water in his lungs ?
@user1.8.2.
Ай бұрын
How do you get the bottom part of your jeans up high enough to take off leather square toe cowboy boots when YOU'RE IN THE WATER???? Think Reasonably.
@sydneyward4726
Ай бұрын
Dude he was way to drunk to do that! He was deceased before he was in the water if no water was in his lungs! Yep…homeless guy got new jeans and boots imo
@JohnSixteen-jj6eg
Ай бұрын
@@user1.8.2. again you're telling me who has actual training in water survival whats possible. I am the definition of reasonble.
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
He didn't even know how to swim.
Is it possible his pants & boots being gone support the notion of micturition syncope (fainting while urinating, a condition which is exacerbated by alcohol)? Perhaps he opened his pants to urinate in the water, fainted, which made the pants come off easier. As for the boots perhaps being dragged along the river current makes it easier for shoes to be removed. Such a tragic situation.
@greenmika
Ай бұрын
My son would hold his pee in high school he hated using the restrooms. One day the school called me and said they found him in the bathroom with his pants down.. apparently he fainted fell hit his head on the urinal knocked himself out. He had a nice size hematoma, concussion and 3 stitches. We laugh about it now but it’s kinda of scary. Thankfully he was in school and not somewhere else…. Poor Riley😔
@DEARABBEY15
Ай бұрын
Who would walk into a river to pee
So heartbreaking for this young man and his family 🙏
prayers for Riley and his family. Truth will prevail whatever it may be.
NO WAY would boxer shorts stay on body if jeans and boots were pulled off in water! This proves foul play!!!
@aprilfisher4947
Ай бұрын
I understand that to some this might be a wild wild theory but what if he took his boots and pants off before going in the water or he passed out and someone took them off him because if as stated he was completely wasted he wouldn't know what was happening and I don't see foul play just a tragic unnecessary accident.
I wish the officials would stop fooling around with this poor kids family. He drowned and had a larygial spasm which closes your airways to prevent water from reaching your lungs. Honestly he probably fell in the water and was holding his breath and drowned struggling to pull his pants and boots of trying to be able to swim. Anyone who has been clothed in water knows how hard it is to move in water while clothed. Rest in Peace Riley. May your family find peace with your tragic accident and these officials leave them alone. They are going to end up putting some poor innocent homeless person in jail for life because THEY want this to be a murder.
@vetinaalvarez4004
Ай бұрын
Exactly. The family wants so much to blame it on somebody other than his own self !!!! I sorry stop trying to blame everyone but your own child !!!! when you get pulled underwater the force of the water everything yes, you can lose your clothes or he might’ve been struggling, kicked his boots off
I hope they find the truth what really happened to this young man. 😢
Riley either took his pants and boots off to swim, thought he was going to bed… or someone took them off of him- but how? When? Where? Where are these items? God bless Riley as he rests in peace. God bless his family, who are overwhelmed by grief and unanswered questions.
I guess the fall down the cliff could have killed him, not necessarily murdered.
I have a feeling the state of decomposition won't line up with the amount of time he was missing. He was kept somewhere.
@Bzzzzzzzz535
Ай бұрын
I have the same feeling!
No signs of foul play just 7 other bodies found in the vicinity
@patsylenoir3765
Ай бұрын
There was another guy named Dakota Bingham that was at a bar and disappeared and was found the same way in the Cumberland River
Absolutely, if his jeans and boots were off, BUT HIS LOOSE FIT BOXERS AND SOCKS WERE ON HIS BODY….. WE SPRINGFIELD, MISSOURIANS ALONG WITH RILEY’s FAMILY WANTS ANSWERS REFERENCING FOUL PLAY RILEY STRAIN STRONG 💪 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
Boxer undies put on him for some small dignity by rescue people?
If you fall in a river its best you get those heavy things off in order to swim. They weigh a lot and you will probably be worn out if you make it against the current.
@lamars2486
Ай бұрын
So do the blue jeans, I've easily slipped mine off years ago while working. They were heavy.
@dw3403
Ай бұрын
@@lamars2486 Blue jeans weigh a ton wet. He was skinny and still had strength to get those boots off and the jeans in order to keep afloat after falling in. It would have been the smartest thing he could do since he was going to have to swim against a current.
@SirJoey420
Ай бұрын
Exactly! Balance issues after the fall and hit to the head. Had to pee. Saw the river. Pants and belt undone, loses his balance, and falls in.
Odd bcs initially it was reported that a homeless person was wearing his shirt. This is starting to stink
@rhondaqualls2954
Ай бұрын
One or 2 werid things ok maybe but this case has to many eyebrow raisers to brush off😢 the shirt thing is just one of many.
@JulieL96
Ай бұрын
It was falsely reported. He had his shirt on when he was found. Not odd at all.
@Aochic
Ай бұрын
Obvious cover up. The question is, what all are they covering up?
This police department is off
Pray for the family
Say everyone, wasn’t there some serial killer that used the water to get rid of the young MEN’s bodies? Seems lots of young men disappeared and then their bodies suddenly appeared in the water. The decomposition did not line up with the amount of time the body was in the water. Does anyone remember this going on a couple of years back? Was there something about a smiley face being around the area where the young men disappeared?
@Bzzzzzzzz535
Ай бұрын
This exactly!!!! Started in 1997 in New York. Many cases in different cities.
@MydNyteRayne
Ай бұрын
Smiley Face Killer.
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
Targeting homosexual men
One alcoholic beverage caused him to be kicked out of the bar?? Maybe he’s allergic and had a bad reaction and it made him act very odd. We haven’t heard about what he was doing to get kicked out. He was 6’7”. A big fella. One alcoholic beverage wouldn’t have done that, unless someone drugged his drink…
@TheSouthIsHot
Ай бұрын
That was the third bar he visited that night.
@Lt.Dan2.0
Ай бұрын
He's a college kid he most likely drank a fifth of his favorite booze before leaving the hotel before getting ripped off at the bars.
@NotExpatJoe
Ай бұрын
Riley Strain was 6'5" but, height doesn't change how alcohol would affect him. He was a skinny guy at only 160 lbs. He was far from a big fella, more like a very tall and very skinny fella. The bar served him one alcoholic drink but he was already heavily intoxicated when he entered the bar.
@Aochic
Ай бұрын
He was probably already drunk before he got to the bar.
@MovingAlong742
Ай бұрын
He was likely drinking before he got to that bar. That said, why haven't we heard about the other bars he visited? And how many drinks were served at those establishments? And I agree with you... what's the big mystery about the reason he was kicked out at all? Why haven't they said what that is?
Hey, yall. There seems to be some confusion. Strain was at other bars before he went to Luke Bryants bar and was served 1 drink. Something could have been wrong with that drink but we obviously don't know until toxicology results. This poor family...i cant even imagine. Rip, dear Riley. 🙏
Did the coroner state how long he was deceased compared to when he disappeared? What if he died days later??
Is it possible he dropped his phone into the water, or someone threw it in and he took his pants and shoes off to retrieve it? Maybe someone threw his phone where the homeless camp was and he went after it, hypothermia.??? Was there water in his lungs when they did the autopsy. If not its possible he was already unalive. people dont drown when they are already deceased.
Just wondering what type of jeans he was wearing, if they were skinny jeans, aint no way the water would take them off
@TheBlacksheep2020
Ай бұрын
They were not skinny
@debbiegates2204
Ай бұрын
@@TheBlacksheep2020 and how do you know this
@TheBlacksheep2020
Ай бұрын
Because i know millie, his step mom, and she said that they were bootcut.@@debbiegates2204
Ive swum in jeans before.They weigh you down.If i fell in wearing jeans and boots they are the first things i would take off to keep myself lighter.
They said that there wasn't any water in his lungs which means he did not drown!
The current in the Cumberland is very strong. His boots would easily come off if his body snagged on debis. If a homeless person wanted those clothes, he would have took his socks and shirt as well. And what if Riley had unbuckled his pants to go number 2? And thats what caused him to fall and tumble down a 30 ft embankment into the river? Sadly I think it's simply a tragic drowning
@TheMiriam333
Ай бұрын
Wrong. Even with pants to ankles, they’d be incredibly STUCK when wet and TIGHT. Not loose. But with boots on… pants won’t even go down too far. Everyone knows there are myriad factors going in that point to absurdity in this case. It seemed completely unnatural from the first clue one.
@landanwoodard7569
Ай бұрын
Do you own a bar downtown?
@freighthauler7642
Ай бұрын
@@TheMiriam333then why don't you tell us exactly what happened so that we can tell the family and close this case? You seem to believe that you're the expert here so solve the case for us Columbo!
@LeeLeeB5
Ай бұрын
But family’s autopsy showed NO water in his lungs…with a drowning, there is water in the lungs…no water in his lungs would imply death before he was even in the water.
@j.k.asbill6131
Ай бұрын
The news said a homeless man was found wearing Rileys black and white shirt ..
2nd autopsies are usually nothing more than a review of the initial autopsy report and medical records. In 22 years with the Medical Examiner as a death investigator very rarely was the body ever viewed a second time. The organs and probably the brain have already been cut so there is nothing left to autopsy a second time and there are no fluids or blood left to collect for toxicology. If the remains are decomposed that is an even worse scenario and sometimes it is difficult to determine cause and manner of death unless there is some kind of trauma found. In some of the cases I have been involved in the 2nd autopsy was done by a pathologist who does not even live in the same state. Interesting case, hopefully they can figure it out.
@Sufferingsassafrass
Ай бұрын
Have the results been made public yet as to the possibility of being drugged? Thanks. I’m behind on this case.
@rhondaqualls2954
Ай бұрын
Ya and could of destroyed evidence
@rhondaqualls2954
Ай бұрын
@@Sufferingsassafrassnot yet
@MF-ty2zn
Ай бұрын
Asphyxiation with a plastic bag wouldn't show anything. Injection of a drug may or may not show up.
@Sufferingsassafrass
Ай бұрын
@@rhondaqualls2954 thank you ☺️
They make boot jacks for a reason,pull-on boots are quite difficult to get off by hand.Jeans will not come off over boots.TRYING to remove boots after you’ve fallen in the water will get you drowned.The recovery of these items is the key to understanding this tragedy.
There should be a new search to locate his pants & boots.
His wallet is also missing
Did they test the blood for ghb?
@NotExpatJoe
Ай бұрын
Urine tests for GHB and GHB analogs must be performed within 12 hours after ingestion, and blood tests must be performed within 5 hours. With that in mind, there would be no reason to test his blood for GHB.
Anyone who has capsized on a river knows how you immediately consider to get your shoes and pants off to effect better swimming. It's instinct. Plus pants can be manipulated into a crude flotation device and shoes reduce kicking power. Even getting sleek below the waist is no guarantee against drowning when in moving water.
@ClaireGreen-wd2gm
Ай бұрын
Right. I learned this is water survival training st age 12. I think these poor parents are just desperate to not have to know their kid died of stupidity
Peed his pants, went to river to clean them, fell in water.
He may have taken his pants and boots off himself. If he was that drunk who knows what happened.
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
No I don't believe he took his own pants off someone else took his pants off of him.
@pricklypear7516
Ай бұрын
Slender as he was, all it would take would be for his body to be floating head upstream in the river. The boots fill with water and are simply tugged off. Same with the jeans. Anything with elastic -- socks, boxers -- would be less apt to fill and float away.
@grose2272
Ай бұрын
Buttoned jeans would not come off easy, jeans stick to you when wet!
@leecarson3426
Ай бұрын
@@pricklypear7516WET JEANS AND BOOTS ARE HEAVY. THEY DON'T JUST SLIP OFF IN THE WATER. YOUR COMMENT IS STUPID AF.
@latinking9793
Ай бұрын
@grose2272 your right someone pulled his pants off of him.
Maybe he took the pants and boots off to take a swim. People do swim in boxers. He was drunk and got caught in the undercurrent
@elizabethd.7662
Ай бұрын
I agree. He was intoxicated and probably made a poor decision to take a swim.
@susanohnhaus611
Ай бұрын
but no water in his lungs. I think he died of alcohol poisoning and some of the homeless took his pants and boots. I don't know why they would leave the watch though.
@popcorn5130
Ай бұрын
Aww c'mon. This is the Internet. Your story makes too much sense! Doesn't make for an interesting conspiracy theory.
@millymurray9324
Ай бұрын
His Mum said that he couldn't swim and he would not go into a river.
Nashville police won't work this right, this case needs the Fed's to move in.
There are still so many unanswered questions & things that don’t add up when it comes to this case!
This story is getting very confusing. First there was a Homeless wearing Riley's Shirt. Now he's been found with no Pants, no Boots? He was only wearing his Shirt??? 🤔
The boots would have filled with water after falling in. He would have felt the extra weight on his feet immediately. He's already in a panic from what's happening and would desperately try to remove them so they don't drag him down. Probably tugged his jeans down a bit the process. Current-caused bumping and snagging of his body would have removed them the rest of the way.
@leecarson3426
Ай бұрын
WRONG. STUPID THEORY. RILEY WAS MURDERED.
Pants and shoes would contain alot of evidence. The police need to do better.
THEY NEED TO LOOK AT VIDEOS OF THE OTHER BARS!!! THEY NEED TO SEE HOW HE WAS ACTING!!